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This is my first time posting on 4chan so bear with me... I hope i'm doing this right...

Wondering what everyones opinions are with regard to top:bottom ratio in the gay community. I feel like there are far more bottoms than tops for obvious reasons/ generalisations / stereotypes.

Is that true? And also do a lot of submissive gay guys end up transitioning into more versatile/ dominant roles?
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>>5397077
there's definitely more bottoms than tops
I'm sure there's an infographic of 4chan users that showed it but I don't have it at hand

>tfw you will never stroke Costanza's chest
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>>5397077
Where I am there are way more tops and hardly any exclusive bottoms. online dating is practically impossible for me as a vers since I'm rather twinkish and everyone wants me to exclusively bottom.
I think it really depends on where you are.
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>>5397180
This is my issue as well. My city is swarming with tops and basically no vers/bottom guys.

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How can you be sure you are a tranny and this isn't some creepy as fuck humiliation fetish or something?

There have been a few times that I considered myself a woman but many times I just fapped it away even though it comes back after a while and fap it away again.

I guess my negative opinion of women also hurts me since I consider many to be useless manipualtive liars sitting on a man for his money.

Sexually I do feel more like a woman since as a gay man I am exclusively bottom and don't like them using my dick in any way.

Worst of all...
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>>5396836
The masturbating for temporary relief thing is fairly common. Dysphoria is not-good-feel, and masturbation floods your system with good-feel.

Can't tell you how you should feel, or what you should do, but suggests being very sure that the life you've built yourself is incompatible with transitioning (medically, socially, or both) before you write it off as impossible.

Hormones affect people differently, but you can expect within two months:

Physically, you should see clearer skin, slower body hair growth, breast buds, and some muscle loss.

Mood-wise you can expect to have a less stable mood, less energy, and less sex-drive (or more likely an altered one). I usually hear other trans women saying they feel better despite that.

Anyway, I think you're going to want to let go of your hate-on for women. It's absolutely not their fault you were not born female.
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>>5396836
Sounds like a fetish, including that very posts, you are pretending to not be in control and that is a humiliation fetish, that is why you fap this often.
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>>5396836
Heya guy. I figured out I had a sissy fetish when I was 21(last year), after much self-loathing and anger that I was still a virgin. I then started to develop envy towards women and all of the attention they get and started to desire to become a hot girl.

I also fantasized men for quite a bit, even after only being attracted to women all of my life but this fantasy is seeming to fade now and I'd rather be a Lesbian.

I know how you feel though, being a tranny would cause me to lose my home, my job,...
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I'm gonna say James Franco. He seemed like he enjoyed crossdressing a little bit too much in that photoshoot/the grammy's.
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The odds are almost non existent.
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>>5395194

I thought he was/is bi.

I love James Franco, btw.
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Arin Hanson

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Is there any way someone could get hormones off the internet while under 18? My "friend" has conservative parents who won't ever let them get hormones, so they are going to have to get spiro and estrogen by themselves, but they only have a paypal account. What website will accept paypal?
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>>5388939
Tell your "friend" that 4chan is an 18+ website.
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>>5388960
That's why I'm asking for him :^) faggot
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tell your friend to fucking do it
this is my number one regret i could have started at 15 but i didn't

DO IT

DO IT

DO IT

ill get the information but first priority i have to make sure you fucking do it before nods finish their hot pocket

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Can anyone sum up the history of derogatory terms for gays? Here's what I've got so far:

>Sodomite was the big one back in the day, but fell out use somewhen idk when.
>Fag seems too modern, I feel like there must've been something between the two.
>Bender/poof seem UK-only, exclusively modern and also semi tongue-in-cheek (can you imagine trying to offend someone by calling them a poof?).
>When did queer change its meaning (the first...
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I wish I could participate in the discussion, but I'm not an expert, since English isn't my native language and I don't live in an English-speaking country.

I think tumblr is responsible for "queer" with their race to add more letters to lgbtipzbbq+ and invent new meme sexualities.

Probably they had also invented and forced the "cis" thing, I haven't heard the word outside of chemistry class until quite recently.

And breeder is rarely used.
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Jonathan Swift used the term breeder as early as the 1700s, specifically in "A Modest Proposal". The term was used to liken women more to being livestock instead of wives/mothers. He took issue with families who had too many children and are unable to properly rear them.

The term really picked up again when the gay marriage debate started in the mid 2000s.

Queer again had much earlier usage, first recorded around the 1500s. The word started to shift in the 1890s, most notably when a Scottish nobleman was arrested for accusing Oscar Wilde of being a sodomite,...
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>>5404640
Just remembered my personal favourite term fruit, that feels modern too.

Guys i done did it.

I got a qt trap gf. Visiting (insert pronoun here) at the start of January. What can I expect as a cis gender scum bisex male?

[spoiler] We gon fugg alot btw [/spoiler]
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>tfw qt transgirl in the vicinity
>she seems p cool + she only has 1-2 friends
>planned on hitting her up next time I see her
>recently find out she's post-dick
is it still worth it?
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>>5404228
See, this is what bothers me personally about chasers. The moment you're not their perfect sex toy no more, they dump your ass ASAP
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>>5404286
maybe you should learn the difference between relationships and hooking up desu fampai

In the usual progression of gay relationships (ie sex, no contact for a month, sex again, date 1, date 2, etc) how long do you have to wait before it's acceptable to say you love someone?
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After date 2 I'm already tired and want something new and better. I've never said I love someone.
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>>5401441
>Implying I get asked for date 1
:(
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>>5401441
I'd think it depends on how often you see each other.
I'd probably do it after a year or two and maybe start moving in together around that time as well. But I prefer things to go pretty slow.

Also I usually withold sex for like 3-5 dates so I'm a little out of the norm for gays lol

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Well guys, my bf and I broke up last night and I'm just afraid that finding a boy who is cool with being a tranny and is also a 4chan edgelord will be tough, but that's honestly just what I need for a relationship to work. Is there somewhere to find people like this? I live in the midwest, which probably makes it worse. Not like it matters. Just need someone to get my mind off of him.
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>>5401343
>tfw that is basically me, except I live in the northwest
anon-kun, I...
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>>5401350
The good ones are always out of reach. = (
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>>5401381
iktf ;_;

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I don't want to be a transgirl, I want to be a real girl. I'm nearly 21 and it's way too late for me to transition and pass 100%.

I'm tempted to just go on HRT to a get a more feminine body and get boobs removed and be a sub gay man with a fem body with a functionless dick.

If I regret it I'll probably just kill myself a bit later than what I would have if I transitioned and been an ugly transgirl.

worth or nah?
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Absolutely worth it.

I lowered my goals, and now just take hrt. It's better than becoming more and more masculine as we get older.
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>>5400979

how long have you been on hrt and when did you start?
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>>5400969
Transitioning is about living as the sex you feel is the real you. If you feel you're a girl then how the hell will being a femboy make you feel complete? Two different things. This is not all a beauty contest. The ugly chick from Maine always wins those anyway.

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>defeat this suggested contradiction with your logic
I really am curious, I tried wrapping my head around it but got a little murky when my understanding of the difference between sex and gender proved to be inadequate. I'm aware of the concept that gender norms are mostly societal pressure, like girls shaving their legs etc. but transgender stuff has got me all twisted up.
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>>5399819
social gender norms, as in what's expected of each gender in our society are mostly socially constructed... but that doesn't mean gender in and of itself is entirely a social construct. there are biological reasons people recognize themselves as a certain gender that have nothing to do with socially constructed ideas of gender like men wearing suits and ties and women wearing heels and lipstick.
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>>5399819
I'm mtf

I have things like body dysphoria and always looked more to the females in my life for guidance, support, friendship etc. and it was more natural.
This resulted in being influenced by things that /are/ pushed onto girls from a young age and have quite little to do with what is probably a wiring issue we aren't close to understanding yet.
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I'm completely on board with the right button.

Then again I'm a gendercrit feminist so

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dysphoria edition

▶Informed Consent Providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
▶Makeup Tutorial: http://imgur.com/a/JO33K/
▶MTF Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/36HC6ZmT (embed) (embed)
▶Trans Info Dump: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9KKqP9IHa5ZxU84a_Jf0vIoAh7e8nj_lCW27KbYBh0/edit?usp=sharing
▶Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
▶Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
▶Voice Training:...
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Those are some fat titties.
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Dysphoria is at an eleven right now

feel'n good B^)B^)B^)B^)B^)B^)B^)
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How true is this?

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Any late transitioners here?
What kept you from transitioning earlier? Denial? Lack of knowledge? Lack of support?

Btw, cheers to you for sticking it out
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Im 50 and transitioned at 43. It was mostly society and family that kept me from doing it earlier.
I totally regret not doing it in my teens
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I feel bad for a lot of older transitioners. I think what a lot of younger mtfs here don't realize is that transitioning used to be much harder. You couldn't just click around on the internet to get HRT and you were real fucking lucky if you had access to a medical system that didn't put you through all sorts of bullshit basically trying to stop you from transitioning as hard as possible. Not to mention acceptance and awareness was even worse than it is now. I'm sure a lot of hons would be transitioning in their late teens/early twenties if they had been...
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28 here. Denial and lack of knowledge combined with once I accepted I was trans attempts to live life as gay man. Once I failed at that attempted suicide then finally started transition.

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My father was physically and emotionally abusive alcoholic.

Was raped in teens

>Get groped and molested four separate instances since transition

> Get stalked and laughed at on the street

The non violent ones assume that if they compliment my appearance I owe them sex.

I'm just so bitter, I feel hollow and worn out from the hate, I'm attracted to men physically but I can't stand their attitudes, how's pushy they are, their total lack of respect. I don't want...
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>>5394711

How do I stop hating men?
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>>5394711
that's literally arin hanson. go suck a dick and die -r9k
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>>5394711
....Is Egorapter trans?

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I'm probably slowpoke as fuck because this video was uploaded like a month ago but what does /lgbt/ think of people who are trans-age?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbiAHnjHlHg
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Execute them
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>>5379316
>trans-age
>Making up "trans" things
Off to tumblr you go.
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>>5380175
>Executing children
Pretty cruel senpai

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I'm getting fucking depressed over this shit.

I'm 25 and I'm pretty sure I'm a homosexual, but there's always this doubt in my mind, what if I'm just turning myself gay because I'm never around women or that I've never slept with a woman that's even my own age. I once slept with a woman in her late 40's, after she left I started crying because i've stoubted so low to do some weird middle age woman with fucked up. But at least I wasn't a virgin anymore. I didn't enjoy the sex, I couldn't even cum.

Now...
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OP you're a faggot, just accept it and enjoy your life. There's nothing wrong with being gay
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>>5402536
But I just want to know how it feels to have sex with a girl that's around my age(like a regular person). Maybe I flick will go inside me head where I actually can fantasies about having sex with women without having to think about another man in the process.

Sometimes I feel like I've become a bottom cock luster because I'm a weak straight man, a omega man.

Every fantasy i've had about a women involved me scoping out for cocks in the gym to find the hungest men for a girl to fuck...
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It's not gonna be a whole hell of a lot different having sex with a woman who's a little younger, dude.

Things might be marginally tighter, that's p much it.

It's not that fucking out there to be into dudes, Anon. If you try it and you don't like it, well, then you know it was a lack of feminine influence. If you try it and you DO like it, congratulations! You have found a thing you like. Do more of it, be happy, enjoy sex endorphins.

Hell, maybe you're bi, who the hell knows.

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