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The Guardian is collating the views of people across the globe on whether gender is binary or not. Regardless of what your views are on the topic, here's a chance to make yourself heard and share your experiences. Could be really good.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/03/male-female-other-young-people-define-gender
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I put down

Where in the world are you living-Antarctica

In which country? -Saudi Arabia
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>Please add a picture of yourself
um

triggered
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>>5668001

Why would Poe & Finn be gay? Or Anna & Elsa? Is the LGBT mindset such that people of the same sex can't care about each other without it being romantic or even sexual (even if they're siblings)? Or is this really a matter of retarded 'shipping apart from any real LGBT considerations?
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>>5665063
Shipping, as well as, projecting your own life's stuff onto fictional characters (maybe to live vicariously through them or for other similar reasons).
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>>5665063
I think it's mainly a shipping thing, and definitely isn't limited to the LGBT community. It actually seems more common among straights, any time people of the opposite sex are emotionally close to each other in any way, everyone insists on seeing it as romantic/sexual, and this is true of male/female platonic relationships both in fiction and irl. And this whole attitude seems to be encouraged by the fact that straight people are "supposed to" be homosocial, while gay people aren't necessarily...
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>>5665063
>Or is this really a matter of retarded 'shipping apart from any real LGBT considerations?
Shipping is not inherently related to lgbt stuff.
It's just that some women get all hot and giddy when imagining 2 guys doing something etc, and at times it's just a fetish projected on 2 characters.
And at times 2 characters are simply (accidentally) designed with very matching personality traits and people notice that.

But usually it's just erotic smut.

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I see lgbt often complain about homophobia and transphobia while often every lgbt faction tends to dislike others.

Mostly this has to do with passing and the adaption to classic binary gender roles and attractiveness.

I as a mtf with fairly good passing often think that hons, queers and flamboyant fags or even transmen who often just look and Akt like lesbian women with Penis envie are gross.

I don't want to be associated with them.

On the other hand I think the concept of a girl with a Penis is just fine and more widely accepted. I mean...
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So you, as a homosexual man, finally can accept being homosexual and live homosexually, but everything that reminds you that you are a homosexual man that went through giant hoops to not accept that should burn on the stake? Did I get it right?
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>>5664878
homophobia among lgbt people is like racism among niggers. It exists but talking about it hardly takes you anywhere
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>mfw this thread

I have a question. Since there are hormones that can help change a male body into a more feminine body, what if a female was to take the same kind of hormones?
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>>5664860
It depends on a lot of factors.

Some anti-androgenic substances are used to treat excessive acne, birth control pills are basically a crazy cocktail of hormones. Estrogen supplements are most commonly used not by trans women, but by post-menopausal cis women. What are you thinking of, exactly?
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>>5664879
What I figured, was that if these hormones can basically give a male-born body a feminine shape (breast development, rounder hips and butt etc.) if a female-born was to take the same, she would see an increase in her own feminine features.
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>>5664917
In some cases this may be true, but past a certain point more estrogen doesn't necessarily translate to more feminine, and consistently low estrogen levels are very rare in DFAB bodies. More commonly, less traditional female development (hirsutism, balding, atypical fat distribution) is caused by an unusually high testosterone level.

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Your whole fucking problem is that you look at these 14-16 year old boys in a dress, and you think, that'll be me!

That ain't never going to be you. You don't look anything like that, and you never will.

You see these fucking bodybuilders and twinks and all these beautiful norweigeans and greeks built like gods and you think, "That will be me!"

But its not! Its fucking not! Your never going to look anything like those people! Those are people born with wealth, and priveledge, whos money and power has made them jaded and cynical.

They...
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Transgenderism isn't about ACCEPTING who you are, its about DENYING who you are!
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>>5664760
your body isn't clay to be shaped and molded like a statue or a piece of pottery! Its a vessel, a divine instrument! A gift!

It is the temple that houses your soul!
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The world doesn't need more little girls.

It need men. Men of strong moral character.

You've seen the sickness eating away at the world, you've felt the cancer gnawing at it. Don't turn away! Look at it! Embrace it! Embrace the truth!

There will be a reckoning! Don't waste your time here on earth!

So, when people say gender is a social construct... how do they reconcile that with the existence of trans people and the experience of dysphoria?

Do they actually mean gender *roles* and are confusing the issue? (doesn't seem like it from what I see... it seems they actually say men and women as genders are artificial)

I tried searching about it but mostly what I found are long as fuck essays/threads which seem to avoid the issue and tbqh sound like a load of bullshit. I have that singular doubt but I can't find it specifically answered/addressed anywhere.
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>>5664263
It's queers shitting on transsexuals so they can have their way with all the bullshit transgender genders fresh outa tumblr.
Gender is not a social construct because gender = sex.
Gender expression may be but who cares about that.
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>Do they actually mean gender *roles* and are confusing the issue?

Yes. Unless they literally mean gender, in which case they are objectively wrong.
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>>5664263
Coincidentally some aspi just posted in another thread a somewhat extensive answer.

>>5664257

So ever since I've known my friend since our freshman year of high school. We have spent a ton of time together and I've noticed that he acts very flamboyant around our group very often. (It's weird cause after I came out as trans MtF in our group he was the one who started acting more comfortable. He's actually a bit more comfortable with his sexuality than I am.) All of this aside the other night our group was having dinner and we all asked him why he made so many gay comments and joke, more than the rest of us usually do. (You know the usual gay stuff like suck my dick, kiss my ass, fuck my ass, the weird usually extremely gay/offensive stuff that guys act like they never say) we asked him if he was bi and told him we didn't care (obviously not if I'm accepted still) he finally just said I don't know. He then talked about how he found the female features in guys cute, basically trap mode and twinks. I've actually liked him for a long time and the last two times I slept over his house we slept in the same bed and he would hold on to me a little and then act surprised if he caught himself doing it in his "sleep". To the point now, we were talking and he said he's just bicurious. How do I get him to try something with me. He's honestly perfect for me (kind, thoughtful, common interest) and I've hoped he would try something for a long time now. He's never been with a girl or a guy before either so I would be his first. We're going to a convention together soon and he said he thinks it'll be cool if I dress as this character we both like (female). Should I hope for something soon, or just wait it out and hope for something to happen at the convention. (Just for reference yes I do pass as a female) Thanks for the help anon's
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>>5664222
>do I get him to try something with me.
Suck his dick, see what happens.
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>>5664222
I have ADHD, what do I get if I manage to read that wall of text with no paragraphs whatsoever?
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>>5664245
Sorry anon I've never been with someone before either and as you can tell from the length of the post and the format of it I'm pretty autistic. How does one just get him to whip it out and let me suck on it. Where both under 21 but over 18 so alc is out of the question/ pain in the ass to get/ have a reason to drink. We usually never drink together unless in a group.

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I'm gay and my bf is bi, lately he's been getting more in touch with his attrection to women after surpressing it for so long and he's been feeling very guilty towards me about it because naked women are more attractive to him than he expected they would be. Now I don't care if he likes women but he's worried that his attraction for men might disappear because of this or that he might be more attracted to women than men and it's making him feel really bad because he really loves me and we're both still very much attracted to each other and...
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Your bf sounds exactly like my ex if that tells you anything
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>>5664146
yeah your gonna get left for a women dont worry it happened to me too, just be glad its not your sister lol...
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>gay guy with a bisexual bf

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What's it like, having a vagina?
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It's just kind of there. It's fun to poke at, feels squishy.

Also if you are one of those people who get intense period cramps sometimes you'll wake up in the middle of the night out of pain because it feels like someone is raping your butthole.
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Awful.
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>>5664024
Lovecraftian.

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So if I wanna hook up with dudes, what precautions should I take? I guess you have to use condoms for everything right? Until you see a STD test clearing them or something. I did some googling and god damn this shit is complicated. I just wanna suck a cute dude off and put it in his bum, why does shit gotta be so hard?
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>>5664022
just use lube and condoms and youll be fine
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>>5664022
>I just wanna suck a cute dude off and put it in his bum

Well, it's hard to get HIV through oral if the guy doesn't cum in your mouth, but there's a higher chance of getting pretty much everything else.

For puttin it in his bum, then yes, ALWAYS condoms.

There's always a bit of a risk of getting something, really. So yeah. Always ask if they're clean and pay attention to see if they look diseased
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>>5664022
always always always always use condoms, except for oral, and even then only if you don't intend to cum in his mouth

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Hey guys, check out this awesome meme I just made!!!! XDXDXD
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>faggot comes to /lgbt/ expecting it to be reddit: the board
>turns out /lgbt/ is just gay /pol/
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>>5663620
I just saw you on /pol/
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>>5663632
I come here to shit on straight /pol/. But a slower straight /pol/, where my posts will only get slide-ed off the front page after a couple minutes, not within mere nanoseconds.

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Hey guys, i don't come on /lgbt/ often (never as a matter of fact), but i have a legit question. If marriage between two men is fine, why not between a man and two women? I love both my girls and i wanted to marry them but i can't because of legal reasons, why isn't the lgbt community fighting for polygamists as well? I guess that's what i have to ask here...
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>>5663509
Because your fellow straight people have said no.

I love it when straight people make laws that hurt other straight people, so I don't complain about that one.
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>why isn't the lgbt community fighting for polygamists as well?

We don't owe them shit. When did they ever fight for us?

sageeeeeeeeee
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polygamy is a completely different topic for anything related to lgbt issues. gay people can be polygamists. trans people can be too. if they want to fight that fight whatever. i do not care at all.

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If a transwoman who looked liked this requested to use female pronouns and be referred to as a woman without doing anything to alter her physical appearance, would you allow her into your community?
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tfw you realize cis men are hons
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>>5663224
I would ask when she starts transition. And then run away very fast.
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Even if I flatly don't believe that they actually identify as a woman, or even if they're saying that their pronouns are "sandwich/burger," I'm going to play along - even if I'm only humoring them.

Agree or Disagree?
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>>5663085
feelings>logic
:^(
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>>5663112
So.... You disagree?
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>>5663131
it depends on how i'm feeling
@:^)

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Been on hormones for about two years now.
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>>5662974
You look like a dude, which is what I hope you were going for.
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JUST
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>>5662974
nice pubestache faggot

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