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Would it really be that wrong if I, as a gay man, tried to go for a "normal" life and got a wife?

I would still care deeply for her and I've managed to have sex with women, I just have to close my eyes and think about men. Besides, all the men I know who are married have told me they barely have sex anymore, so really it shouldn't be an issue for either of us.

Asking this because I'm this close to get a gf.
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>>5676665
you'll slowly start to get more and more depressed. When you reach your 40-50 you will either
a) come out of the closet, break up with your wife and destroying your whole family
b) commit suicide
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>>5676866
I think I'd be more depressed as a single, childless 50 year old gay man, to be honest.

We all know that getting into a gay LTR isn't easy.
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>>5676884
You're risking a lot of lasting misery not just for yourself but for multiple other people (wife, kids) on the very stupid bet that you'll never find a lasting gay relationship

Don't do this to that woman, anon

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How do you deal with all the suicides in the trans community?

They all hit so close to home and I'm a good listener, so people always share their demons with me and it's so brutal what lives some must suffer through. Hurts me too but I can't just look away.
Half the time I feel like suicide myself, but the rest of the time I feel I got some capacity to try and help people. I got lots of time and money and I usually ask people to come see me before they kill themselves so we could try to figure something out. Wouldn't even mind taking someone out...
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>>5676635
There isn't a lot of suicides in the trans community or so I heard, since I live in Alabama and there just isn't a lot of "out" trans that I meet
but, I do have popping thoughts that say I want to kill myself
then, I think about and come to a conclusion that, that would be a shitty thing to do to my friends and family
because all of dem either don't care or support me
So, I figure hey its just depression and then rage hard in rainbow six
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>>5676648
>shitty thing to do to my friends and family
Maybe, but it's also kinda shitty to suffer for them.
Good that you seem to be more or less dealing with it however.

I seem to be a magnet for these people though. Whomever I talk to, they usually soon tell me everything. And I'd say that goes for like 90% of the people I do meet in private.
And I guess because of that I get all these people that have to get something off their chest too.
And that's okay I think,...
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Same way people do in any other community. Morn the loss and move on with life.

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Slightly tongue in cheek thread.

I'm a gay guy who's made his first lesbian friend. She's great, we have lots in common.

The other day she made a joke about "Lesbian bed death" and I had absolutely no idea what she meant or what she was referring to.

I'm familiar with gay (male) subculture, slang, etc..but I now realise that I know very little about lesbian subculture.

If you had to tell someone a few things about being a lesbian (the less obvious stereotypes, slang, universal experiences, sex acts, etc.) What would...
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Treat her like a sister. You're both up against a pretty cruel world where people are going to treat you like shit for your orientation. Just ask her questions and she'll probably be into answering them and will probably ask you some. Just tell her you want to know more about it and about her as a person.
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>>5676838
>TFW no lesbian sis to chill and hang out with.

I always thought it'd be nice. 4chan gays make it sound awful but I've had generally good experiences with lesbian coworkers and classmates in the past.
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>made a lesbian friend

dear god why

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>tfw your sham gf wants to have sex again
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Dump the beard, faggot.
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>>5676560

I can't, I'm doing this to keep my parents proud of me. You'd understand if you loved your family.
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>>5676573
>love is being chained like a dog
Whatever you say, Muhammed.

Hey /lgbt/

what kind of dating apps would you recommend?
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Doesn't really matter which one you use, they'll all contain the same people and you'll most likely end up with the same result.
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>>5675974
>what kind of dating apps would you recommend?
None.
I prefer meeting people IRL. In the supermarket. At the library. Online (games). Through an acquaintance.
So, get a hobby where you get to meet other people. Go swimming with other people (or club). Join a yoga class. If necessary, look for gay clubs in the vicinity for whatever sport.
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>>5675974
steam

>tfw mtf
>tfw legally blind
>tfw the only way I can function is by wearing the most obnoxiously thick and ugly glasses imaginable
>tfw morbid fear of putting my fingers near my eyes
>tfw lasic is $1500+ per eye and it's considered cosmetic so insurance won't cover it

Fuck my eyes.
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Thats what you get for going against god
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Be brave. I was scared of contacts but then I forced myself to use them.

You can't blame your fear for a problem with this simple of a fix.

I'm a gay male grad student and there's a really cute undergrad (pic unrelated) in a mixed grad/undergrad course I'm taking. I'm not certain that he's gay/bi but I think he might be.

I really want to go out with him but I'm nervous that he won't be gay/bi and I'm nervous about the ensuing awkwardness if he isn't interested. I've never actually asked someone out except online, which was also the only date I had (along with two more with the same guy after). I mainly am just totally inexperienced and feel like I child and...
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I think your are not outed in school, are you?
Could asking him cause trouble? Like he is telling friends that you would be gay or whatever. Then bullying and stuff? Or do you think that is the the type of person who understands it? We gays have a problem, mainstream fashion became too gay, so we can´t really see who´s gay,even though I somehow pass the test all the time haha. Gay-radars don´t work anymore I assume. Having a young cute boyfriend must be cool I guess.
I hope you´ll get him, people say try to ask/find it out at a party, but ahh.RAthera study group or...
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>>5676203
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How do you know if a guy is being really nice and just wants to be friends, or is gay and just scared to make a move. This dude at work constantly wants to hang out and asks me to stay longer wherever we are, saws aw when I leave. Not sure if he's gay or joking or if that's even normal
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>>5675149
Ask him. I know it sounds scary but really the chances of it going wrong are few.

When you're hanging out with him, just find a moment to say something like this.

>hey, I want to ask you something. Don't take it the wrong way, but... are you gay?
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>>5675149

make little moves. some guys crave attention and male bonding, but arent masculine enough to develop typical brolationships. as such they surround themselves with gays because they bond easier, bu they also get the same thing straight women get, validation, made to feel like they are exceptional ('LOL GAY GUYS LOVE ME XD' type nonsense).

the only way to know for sure without ruining possible friendship is to make tiny moves. next time you see him hug him. then excited hug him. then after that give...
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>>5675149
>>5675199
Yeah I'd start with the hug or something and if he's like "wtf are you doing anon" then that's a pretty good indication that he's straight or not interested.

Has anyone tried to transition only using herbs? Is it successful? How risky is buying prescription drugs (premarin, pervora, etc) in online without prescription?
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Herbs do shit all.
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>>5674852
No risk if you do research and only use trusted sites.
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Why the fuck would you do herbs over actual meds? If somehow you could take enough herbs for them to be effective, they would have side effects like real meds anyway.

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>tfw almost 26
>tfw ugly and unpassable mtf
>tfw soon will be 30 then 40 and will just keep getting more and more ugly (old)
>tfw will never be young and passable and have older men give me nice things
>tfw will never have countless sexual experiences as a teenager with guys of my age and older guys on the side
>tfw transitioning is a waste of time because no non-blind non-deaf guy will ever...
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>>5674655

I turned 21 recently, but I feel like that too. I just looked through my childhood photos and it's sad seeing I'm not as ugly or masculine as I thought I was. I wasted my window of opportunity.
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>>5674655
>>5674846
Don't worry.
I'm only 19 but already thoroughly ruined by testosterone.
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>>5674932

Yeah, I don't really feel jelly of those who started at 19 since I started at 20. Seventeen is probably the latest I would be jelly of anyone for. Even then it would probably be unlikely because I could pretty much already grow a complete beard and I was growing chest hair and all that by that point.

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How about instead of pretending trannies arent mentally ill we stop stigmatizing mental illness?
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>>5674114
>stop stigmatizing mental illness

>bipoler pride parade is on
>bipolar pride parade got cancelled
>bipolar pride parade is on again
>bipoler pride paread got cancelled
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>>5674129
LOL as a bipolar person that made me laugh.
Can kinda see that happening too.
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>>5674114
Will never happen.

>MTF is pre-HRT
>Maintains roughly the same personality and interests throughout her life
>MTF comes out and starts HRT
>Radical shift in personality and interests toward extreme femininity

Why does this happen? I mean, I get that for a lot of girls, transition gives them the opportunity to embrace their feminine qualities. What I don't get is why do many of them turn into completely different people. Certainly they don't just up and...
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>>5674011

You don't think gender differences in behavior are explained through social influences instead of biology, do you OP?

Because society has to come from somewhere, and there's a reason why certain behaviors are similar across multiple cultures and time periods. It's not all just random habits different societies got into for no reason. It's biology, and changing hormones around changes behavior for that reason.
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>>5674011
there's a big chance they were only being 'masculine' in order to repress their trans side.

Also I'm not an expert, but taking hormones could have that effect as well to some extent, I guess
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>>5674011
>Are they just trying too hard to be women? Is that why hons are a thing?

Partially. For me, I ended up dropping a lot of stuff I used to like because of the reasons I liked things pretransition. I liked escapism and a lot of things were about coping with trans feelings or numbing myself. Once starting transition and feeling happy, why would you do stuff that was a coping mechanism for a situation not going on anymore?
people can also feel pressured to like stereotypically masculine...
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I love boys and I want to be a girl. I'm perfectly okay with being bisexual, but the fact that I might be transexual scares me so much. When I was eleven years old I discovered transexual porn, around the same time I was just discovering regular porn. It's completely tainted me ever since, and I went through my entire teenage years thinking that life would be better if I became a pretty girl. I used to masturbate to the idea of being one of my female friends, usually still with a penis.

But I want to have a wife, and kids. I'm sexually attracted to both men and women but I've only ever identified on a personal and romantic level with women. I don't ever want a husband. I want my parents to be proud of me, and I want to continue my family. I keep telling myself that will change, and that once I get a girlfriend that lasts more than a couple months, and once I start having sex with women, I'll lose all these desires. But it's still not happening, and I'm slowly reaching the point where I'll never be able to pass if I transition. (I'm 20 now and already missed my chance at truly passing.)

I'm so scared of living the rest of my life as somebody I'm not happy with. And I'm so scared of making a decision that I can't back out from, and denying myself the ability to have a "normal" family.

I don't know what kind of replies I am expecting to this, but I just wanted to rant and get it off my chest and somewhere public. I wish I had somebody to talk to about this that I was comfortable with. I could have, I had lots of friends who would have probably preferred me come out as transexual but I pushed them away and hid in the closet.

Anyway I just needed to make this post, I feel a little better right now.
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>>5673742

>I love boys and I want to be a girl.

>But I want to have a wife, and kids.

That's fine, OP. Just get a wife and kids to make everyone accept you as normal while masturbating to thought of being a girl in private when you're alone at your workplace's bathroom or wherever. Works for me desu.
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>>5673767
70 more years of that seems really scary and unpleasant. 70 more years of feeling like I'm doing everything wrong because I'm not doing it as a woman seems really scary and unpleasant.

When I read a book a voice in the back of my head says, "It would be better if I was reading this as a girl." When I go for a walk a voice in the back of my head says, "It would be better if I was walking as a girl."

The voice gets more frequent and louder every year it seems.
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If that is just on a sexual level as I understand than doing what >>5673767 said would be somewhat enough I think.

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>where do you live?
>what's the dyke scene like there?
>homophobia?
>best thing about where you live
>worst thing about where you live

Let's see if we can span all five habitable continents.
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>>5673419
I'll go first
>London (/Edinburgh for uni)
>idk really I don't club a lot anymore
>Nah
>Art galleries; Tate, Photographer's Gallery, NPG, NG
>Pollution; air, light and noise
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>>5673419
Mexico
Only gaymen here
Who the fuck cares, everyone likes lesbians anyway
Freedom to download CP and not get jailed
Annoying failed socialists
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>South Brazil
>Pretty big tbqh
>Not that big in comparison to the other regions of the country, but there's still plenty. A lesbian couple got assaulted on a beach in my city not so long ago. It sucks.
>really really nice beaches
>traffic, everything is expensive, TOURISTS

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Options on her?
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she's hot. her topping is a joke though.
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Hot to see her getting restrained and barebacked by a hung black guy.
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>>5672943
She's the embodiment of why people think (non-hon) trannies are gross. She's 90% plastic and looks like a caricature.

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