This is the future.
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This is the future.
Depending on how it communicates.
If its any flavor of long distance, its jammable. If its direct line-of-sight microwave, or laser, its got a range of 10 miles with a communication mast.
So, your guys are now 10 miles away from the front lines.
>>29483745
Can you bounce microwave signals off the atmosphere with directional antennas?
>>29483790
Yes, but you then require a very large antenna to capture and filter the signals.
A good way to imagine microwave-based telecommunication is with spray paint (see inverse-square law for greater detail). When the paint comes out of the can, it is moving fairly quickly, and is rather densely packed. But as it moves farther from it's point of origin, it begins to have interference, like;
>the atmosphere it is moving through
>other spray paint droplets floating alongside it
>the distance it has to travel to its target
So it becomes apparent that if you want to maximize your spray paint, you move as close as possible, and use a powerful sprayer. You don't stand twenty feet away from a lawn chair when you are spraying it, you are a few inches away. But it's not just you are spraying the ROV with your directive signals, you want to receive information back from it. You don't want to just cast information into the void, you want real-time feedback from your drone, so you can actually use it in a combat environment. So now your drone is not only having to lug around a massive antennae, it has to bring an equally powerful transponder to blast information back at you (which requires a lot of power to run).
This is of course ignoring Sol, the giant ball of exploding plasma 93 million miles away, which will interfere with any signal you attempt to bounce off the atmosphere.
This is the value of directed-beam transmission systems (http://www-ee.stanford.edu/~jmk/pubs/imag.div.icc.96.pdf), wherein you have a number of responders and emitters to blast your target with tight, encrypted beams of data. This method is very difficult to detect and actively jam, and only requires a LEO satellite to transfer the data (super cheap by satellite standards, about $150 million per launch).
This is of course ignoring Sol, the giant ball of exploding plasma 93 million miles away, which will interfere with any signal you attempt to bounce off the atmosphere.
>>29483790
LoS is the general rule with microwave if you want anything substantial transmitted.
>>29485171
Or Russians just man them with Midgits
If I recall there's 2 versions, one is tethered, a teletank, and the other is short ranged radio waves. Both kinds are housed in an MTLB or something.
>>29483745
>So, your guys are now 10 miles away from the front lines.
Consider they could be in a vehicle themselves that sounds fine.
>>29483745
Datalinks from dem UAVs bro. Goes something like this
>commo mast shoots signal to UAV
>UAV shoots signal to drone
Could be very useful in low ECM environments.
>>29485171
A little bit more about problems with the sun; its glorious incandescence will blot out many signals we try to send and receive. Imagine trying to spot a flashlight being held next to a nuclear explosion. Our most powerful emitters can blast out data at 1.8 TW. By comparison, Sol's solar constant is around 47 TW, every second. The raw radiative power of Sol will swamp any other receivers (read about solar fade for more information).
>>29483710
INSIDE TANKE IS BROOFS.
>>29483745
>Depending on how it communicates.
It has some sort of autonomy.
>>29485200
>>29483710
What is this fallout 4?
>>29491213
>vision slits galore
>no sights for any of the guns
Bravo Todd!
>>29488936
It's Russian, it has no autonomy.
>>29483710
>Future
>Doesn't fire hypersonic PT boats
These things did jackshit in Syria besides have RT ''''''reporters'''''' masturbate to them
Israel (who Russia heavily borrowed drone tech from) has been using similar but much-less-publicized platforms along the Gaza/Lebanon borders for years now and they're not especially useful there either. We're not at a point where USV's are useful despite seeming cool
>>29483745
I was watching a video on this and the Russians said they where designed to work 500-2000 meters ahead of the troops controlling them and use close range communications to make them less susceptible to jamming. Don't have the link though, it had good subtitles. Maybe some cyka blat can link it.
>>29491213
>find one of these abominations that isnt sealed
>inside is solid metal with no access to the fuck ton of ports on the outside
>no access for driver within. period.
>poor basterd has to climb out the fucking front of the thing if it gets disabled, god forbid in combat..
>no access to turret inside. or outside..
>turret at best has 8 rounds of ammunition within, added with zero gun depression or elevation.
>questionable amount of ammo for the two blister turrets.
>everything has to be either robotic or controlled by the fucking driver
dont get me started on the "tank" either.. this thing alone looks like it was designed by someone who has never seen an IFV, taking commands from a drunk describing a LAV300
4 of these will be controlled by a squad that is inside a T-15 that is hidden behind some rubble 500m away. And a transport carrying an extra 2-3 will be on standby in case 1 is lost so they can send another one immediately. It's a bit better in urban scenarios that is needed to stand.
>>29491213
i thought this actually looked cool
>>29495434
It's just too bad FO4's lead is shit.
So many of the assets and the work done could be used to build a better game.
I suppose mods will fix it.
>>29495434
I don't like it because it's too top-heavy, but the blister guns and main cannon could easily work if you used laser or plasma weapons, which don't require many large moving parts, and only need energy for ammunition.
Your point about the nonexistent drivers hatch is spot-on though. I'd hate to drive this abomination.
>>29492865
Underrated post
>2087
>all war is fought by robots, countries literally just pour resources into building tankbots until defenses are all blown up and the other guy's tankbots show up at your door
>mfw
>>29496401
>Equipped tanks with laser and plasma.
>Games Workshop copyright lawsuit looming the distance.
It could be that lasers were pretty new and cost less as replacement for small arms, but would require fusion cores to power larger guns such as a laser gat or power armor. If it were economical, as a fusion core is used to power a block or a building in what seems to be a DC current world. Eventually the tanks and APC were going to get phased out by power armor and man portable nukes anyway. With what "little" resources the government had, it would have been even more costly to have heavy laser and plasma weapons. That is if Plasma was finished with testing.
They could be 40+ year old tanks B4 nukes happened anyway.
>>29495434
Please tell me about the tank anon....
>>29495141
Sam ti suka, blyat`.
Anyway, here`s the link the first screenshot is taken from. And yeah, Uran-9 rulez.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE3f7oNFTlE
>>29495141
Range up to 3km
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUsih_E4B50
>>29495063
I have no idea what are you on about. The only USVs Russia has ever deployed in Syria are sapper drones demining Palmyra.
>>29495434
To be fair, they had to model the tank off of a napkin sketch, and it's accurate to FO: Tactics, but that doesn't excuse the fact that it's one ugly, impractical demon. They should have just used the M60 Starship instead of this WoT-tier mutant.
>>29498741
And the 10 year old sketch.
>>29498286
@1:00
HAHAHAHAHAH Fucking embarassing.
mfw saw a post saying "its range is 3km" and thinking russians had a railgun based on the muzzle shroud
what is it armed with anyway
>>29498614
its a remote control BMD-2
>>29491839
I thought he was pretty much just a mouthpiece?
>>29498771
Dat ass
>>29498760
It's container.
>>29498771
>what is it armed with anyway
30mm cannon and universal launch pad for ATGMs, manpads, RPOs.
>>29498844
>mirandacutscene.jpg
Nice double dubs
>>29488936
>Russian
>autonomy for anything below Mayor
You're a funny guy.
>>29498760
what's embarassing is that they still allow people on the internet without IDs
>>29497604
"tank"
for starters the thing looks like a basement child that a 1960 Cadillac Brougham and an M26 Pershing conceived..
>cant distinguish front from rear. because "future tank" we dont know which it is..
>assume the wider set tracks are the rear because of what look like stabilizers and memories of tanks having their turrets the other way for transport and storage some times.
>unable to depress facing other way because of shit in the way though..
>the mutant LAVs still have paint, why is this thing sheet metal?
>fucking star is still visible but no god damn army green!
>the guns. fuck these guns.
>double gun because "muh wacky future"
>dead zones. dead zones everywhere.
>>29498741
>>29498750
that was there reference? that thing was some junk yard special the BOS fielded if I remember tactics correctly.. more importantly the tanks I saw were all shermans.
google could solve this but seeing how lore does not count any more ((thanks todd)) its really weird they used that as the base, considering FOT is sadly regarded as non-canon.
the Starship would be a good fit here T54E1 too, anything using the Patton chassis really..
>>29488936
>It has some sort of autonomy.
Completely false.
>>29500424
>FOT is sadly regarded as non-canon.
But that's wrong.
It's explicitly mentioned in 3 and 4.
>>29500930
Elder Lions and the airships I presume? they took flavor from FOT as well as the proto F3 (V3) but actions and direct story are ignored which has been stated before.
assuming "canon" Lions should have either died on the trip, which is what happened to the majority of the convoy or remained in the midwest.
the "non-cannon... cannon now.. urgh" is that the convoy made it to D.C. and went forward with its original mission that was stated in the beginning of FOT. He would have said he was from the survivors of the fated convoy of airships from California ergo, midwest BOS.. or at least freaking hinted at the crash. he also makes zero reference to there being any BOS in the midwest which considering their size at the end of FOT seems dumb to not. and the existanse of The Legion confirms FOT is non-canon. the midwest BOS activly roflstomped tribals and insurections. the legion was probably those assholes you bend over in Quincy as far as FOT goes.
>>29491213
This looks like 1930s America tried to make an APC using the design specs for a BMP-1 but a transcription error removed any reference to height.
