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Let's say you and your squad is surrounded by muslim soldiers.

All of your ammo is depleted, but then you find an old stash of german WW2 weapons and ammo.

What are your odds against more advanced weapons like the AK-47, AK-74 and other variants???

Can old weapons like Kar 98 penetrate through body armors?
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>>29463726
Level IV plates? With shitty surplus 8mm, probably not. Initially, anyway. Keep shooting the same plate with anything and you'll break it eventually.
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The Mauser fires an 8mm cartridge, which is more powerful than .50 BMG. So yes, it will penetrate armor.
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>>29463726
>you find an old stash of german WW2 weapons and ammo.
It's been known to happen.
>What are your odds against more advanced weapons like the AK-47, AK-74 and other variants???
With modern western training and tactics? Maybe 50/50 assuming you were actually somehow familiar with the weapons you just found. Really you'd be fucked.
>Can old weapons like Kar 98 penetrate through body armors?
No more than any modern caliber.
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>>29463726
An stg 44 could probably compete fairly well with an AK-47.
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>>29463757

Today I learned 8mm mauser is powered by nazi magic to be more powerful than a cartridge twice its capacity and bullet weight.

/k/ is fucking dumb sometimes.
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>>29463774
besides being heavier and more complex and a bit less powerful it certainly could
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7.62x39 or x54r, both will kill you with a good shot. So long as Johnny "Blood Diamonds" Democratic Republic of the Congo child soldier can't aim on full auto one round is all you need.
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>>29463806
Neither of the guns mentioned in the OP fire x54.
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>>29463815
That's just the same gun with a picture taken from both sides but 39 vs 54 was a good comparison from a WWII bolt action to a slightly more modern Russian round.
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>>29463824
I meant the AK-47 and AK-74 referenced, but yes, I was just nitpicking and you are pretty much correct.
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>>29463726
>be me
>be in Iraq 2005
>platoon under attack by Iraqi insurgents
>pinned down with no hope of escaping
>IEDs going off left and right
>RPGs incoming!
>snaps and cracks of bullets whizzing by from superior slav AKs
>run out of ammo for our M4s.
>fml.jpeg
>Abrams on the way, but it breaks down a few clicks away
>PVT Goldstein discovers crate of K98s, unopened spam cans of 8mm, and some M43 hats
>dig as hard as we can to save C&R rifles
>begin to hand out K98s and 8mm on stripper clips
>sayourprayers.mp3
>begin firing back
>insurgents start falling from our deadly accurate Nazi-gunfire
>click clunk
>clank clack
>K98s firing rapidly
>sprits of Deutsche AfrikaKorps protects us from untermensch Arabs
>Hitler rises from the grave
>he begins throwing Stielhandgranaten in a desperate attempt to keep us from being overrun
>we narrowly escape by using last rounds and bayonets
>come home
>no one believes how the Nazis tried to save us
>watch as our society is destroyed by multiculturalism
>tfw Hitler tried to save us
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>>29463922
That sounds scary. Thank you for your service
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>>29463922
>you actually made a mistake
>box was full of Turkish Mausers and shoddy 8mm
>in your stressful firefight you mistook Refik Saydam for Hitler
>Turkish rifles were confused and defending the Ottoman Empire from Arabian peninsula rebels
>society is accepting Islam just like the Ottomans wanted
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>>29463772
>No more than any modern caliber
It can penetrate more than .223 or either x39, which is what you'd most likely be up against
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>>29463922
Thank you for your service.

I cry everytiem
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>>29463726
If your squad is surrounded by a bunch of Somali skinnies spraying full auto all over and nowhere and you find a cache of kr98s, stgs, mg42s, mp40s, etc. the Somalis wouldn't stand a chance. it isn't even a question
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Your advantage would be distance.
The more distance you have with the Muslims, the k98s will out shoot the AKs in accuracy, power, and effectivenes.
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>>29463726
Well if you happen to find an sks then you'll be pretty evenly matched with the AK crowd
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>>29463726
The only real problem would be your slowed rate of fire. Guns still work and bullets still kill, even if better guns and bullets are available. As for if you'd survive, depends on the number of enemies and your location.
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Well aimed shots from a dependable bolt action rifle will beat out "sandnigger trigger" every time. Unless they are capable of putting down effective suppressive fire (unlikely) on our position.

All it takes is one bullet
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>>29463922
But why would they protect you when you were serving Israel anon?
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>>29463726
>operating with a P35 Hi Power and STG-44
mite b cool
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couple of these and some fg42s. i like our odds.
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>>29463775
Whatd you expect from someone named brittney, i mean im a mauserboo and i laughed at that
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>>29463726
Against AKs you have very decent chances actually. You could easily run a PPSh or a nugget, because in fact muslims used to used those against americans and russians not so long ago.

But if you were to go against guys with scopes then you'd get fucked senpai.
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>>29465517
Considering the PPSh was the first mass produced assault rifle i think the differences will be minor.
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>>29465540
>PPSh
>Assault rifle
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>>29465540
PPSh wasn't an assault rifle anon.

Though it did kinda function as one I guess.
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>>29464069
Still can't go through NIJ Level IV body armor, which is what you need to stop 5.56x45.
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>>29463772
8mm is literally more powerful and penetrative than any small arms that contemporary troops carry today.
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>>29467770
>8mm is literally more powerful
Conceded.
>and penetrative
Nope; M855A1 has better penetration than the old S or sS-Patrone.
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>>29463757
I actually remember reading this somewhere? Do you have a source?

I could probably save a lot of money just buying an 8mm Mauser than buying a .50 BMG gun..
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