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Convince me not to get a Glock 20, /k/.
>live in bear country and hike frequently, 10mm would be great for taking down a black bear or even a mountain lion
>Relatively cheap and simple, not many moving parts to break
>Very easy to find replacement parts and holsters for
>Is pretty sexy IMO
>15 round magazine
Is there a reason not to get it? Is the 10mm cartridge a meme?
I have one. It's preddy good. Kills most shit on four legs and everything on two. If ya load em hot they're nearly magnum cartridges.
Now the idea that standard load FMJ are these tiny nuclear missles are BS but everything else is fine.
>>29324668
>live in bear country and hike frequently, 10mm would be great for taking down a black bear or even a mountain lion
A .44 with some buffalo bore would be better if this is a legitimate concern. inb4 moose attack webm.
>Relatively cheap and simple, not many moving parts to break
>Very easy to find replacement parts and holsters for
Yeah, that's true for the most part.
>Is pretty sexy IMO
No accounting for taste on /k/, I suppose.
>15 round magazine
About the only real pro I see.
>Is there a reason not to get it? Is the 10mm cartridge a meme?
They're pretty good guns and 10mm is a strong cartridge that will fulfill your stated needs, but it's also definitely a niche/compromise cartridge in basically every way. It's not going to be particularly easy to CC unless you're fat and/or dress 2x up in most everything you wear and you won't be hitting the range often with ammo cost/availability.
It's a special snowflake gun/cartridge, but dive in if it's what you really want.
>>29324668
Because the glock 40 exists.
I wish I would have waited, but I love my gen 3 glock 20
I love mine, except that it throws brass into my face once in a while, but maybe it's just the way I hold it. Either way, I'd trust my life to it, and if you want to shoot .40S&W because you have glass wrists or want to be a special snowflake and shoot .357 Sig, all it takes is a barrel swap.
Might as well post the picture I took at the range with my dad today, the G20 is on the left, on the right is my Remington Gamemaster 760 in .308, my grandfather gave it to me.
I'm debating between a RIA 10mm, a colt delta elite, or a glock 20. I want a 10mm for the reasons you've stated but I'd like it to have an external safety.
>>29324917
the delta elite is cool but the G20 is by far the most practical of those options.
>>29324734
220 gr hard cast is more than enough for black bear, hell 180gr HP is enough for black bear.
Only if you are up against a brown bear do you really hope that you had a 45-70 or the like. And with a Brown Bear a 44 mag will do you almost no good, you would want a 460 or a 500.
The G20 is a fantastic gun for self defense and for woods defense but it will print like a mofo if you try to CC it. I can open carry at my workplace so that's what I carry.
>>29325118
My only issue with the glock is sleeping with it chambered and unholstered. I do that with my RIA GIVE 45 but would feel uncomfortable doing it with a glock with safety.
>>29324668
10mm wont takedown a bear, but fuck up his face so the rangers can slay him later.
Just get a .40 if you insist on a semi auto, or get a .44 mag revolver.
>>29325251
>10mm too weak
>get a .40
LOL
>>29325251
No gunz
>>29324668
As long as you buy the right ammo, (anything loaded hot with a 200gr XTP) it's a great choice for the woods.
>>29325251
>10mm
>Weaker than .40 S&W
>>29324771
it's the way you're holding it. Mine flings brass about 3 feet vertical and well enough sideways to consistently hit the poor guy in the lane right of me at the range.
>>29324668
Trade-in Glock 21 + 10mm barrel
>>29325744
How is the muzzle flash with the 20C?
>>29324668
If you don't get a 9x25 Dillon conversion barrel, you might as well not get the G20 at all.
>>29324757
Came here to post this.
I want a g40 so fucking bad.
>>29325978
I wasn't aware that 9mm Dillon was still in production?
>>29325251
Go home, your drunk.
I am also looking to get a G20
Something I can hunt whitetail with and carry
Plus be a special snowflake which lets be real, is the main reason to buy a 10mm
>>29325221
Do you actually keep the gun in the bed with you? Fucking retarded.
>>29326024
>this guy came to the field with both a helmet AND a hat
>>29326246
It's the dude's own helmet, which makes it 300% more metal.
>TFW you beat a man with his own helmet.
>>29325762
>>29325736
>>29325537
Different anon, but I think what he's saying is "10mm won't fuck up a bear, so you might as well go for the more common and easier to handle caliber, or go all out and get a .44 magnum."
>Not that .40 isn't still for faggots
>>29325251
Jeepman killed a black bear with a .40 M&P. It bled out later but he did kill it.
>>29324668
I hate glocks... I CC a g20.
meme aside even if you don't reload (you should) it's just the best carry gun you can buy period.
>>29324668
>10mm would be great for taking down a black bear or even a mountain lion
No, it would not be great. A pistol cannot reliably kill bear and cougar. Buy a glock if you want, but buying one for those scenarios is incredibly foolish.
I prefer the Barrett M82 it is compact and versatile, it can be concealed well, and the ammo is cheep as fuck.
>>29326319
You hate glocks and CC a gun made exactly not to CC. You ever look in the mirror to notice the pants are in fact on your head you fucking troglodyte?
Glock isn't my favorite, but you don't need to be that smart not to CC a 1" slide. May as well CC a .500SW
if your willing to roll your own or buy gud ammo (underwood) other than its kinda pointless. just do a 460 rowland conversion
>>29324668
>10mm
meme
>>29324668
Black bears run from humans. They are scared animals the vast majority of the time.
Chances are you won't hear a mountain lion coming. It'll be playing with your corpse before you even think about playing with your gun.
If you think you need a 10mm for black bears and cougars specifically, you're buying the wrong gun. Go learn about the fauna in your area before thinking a 10mm will get you real security.
>>29326012
>>29324757
Is the g40 all that much better? What kind of energy advantage do you get over the 20 with the longer barrel?
>>29326791
Not enough to make it a priority feature for purchasing unless you plan to go hunting with it.
>>29325537
>>29325736
>>29325762
>>29325911
>>29326024
>>29326308
THE WHOLE POINT IS....
...CLINGING TO THE IDEA YOU CAN HAVE A SEMI AUTO PISTOL IN A LARGE CALIBER THAT HAS A GRIP SMALL ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY HOLD ONTO IS CURRENTLY A PIPE DREAM
GO REVOLVER
or insist on having a clown shoe sized semi auto if you want.
>>29326816
>no REEEEEEEE
dammit, anon
>>29326791
Its a veritable, depends on what your shooting. I want it for that 8" gap between the front and rear sights, and the extra weight from the slide. It works well to tame the recoil.
>>29324668
>Convince me not to get a Glock 20, /k/.
10mm Glocks sit in the .45 frame. They're thick and heavy and the grip is different from the 9/40.
They're less comfortable to carry and weigh a lot more and if you're used to / trained with the smaller frame sizes then you probably won't shoot the larger frames quite as proficiently IMO.
The ammo is more expensive but let's assume you're right. The ammo, the good ammo, is still hard to acquire relative to more common rounds. It's only a non-issue if you order all your ammo online or hand load.
The Glock 20 has a very long handle that imprints more and is less comfortable.
OP, unless you're getting it as a backpacking gun, it's an absolutely idiotic choice for EDC.
>>29326729
Also legit.
Semi auto, double stack, .44 magnum power.
Duel wield a 10mm and a .460 rowland in bear country. God wills it.
>>29325251
>10mm wont takedown a bear
10mm will put negro
bear to sleep for realz.
Big browns call for magnum loads
I carry a 10mm, either a 20 or 29. This is my 29 and I'm about to go in a bear cave and show them what's up.
>>29324668
I don't know why anybody would buy a G20 when the G40 exists
It has everything that makes the G20 great plus a longer barrel and longer sight radius, and it might be able to solve your problems
>>29324668
I like mine. Buy one if you like it.
>>29324668
Mauser C96
>>29329961
Truth
>>29327729
Please, brother, point me to where you got that back plate, please.
>>29330131
I got it custom made at glockstore.com. You click "design your own" then email them the pic. I've done it 3 times.
>>29330232
I guess I could have taken a better non blurry pic.
>>29324917
Theres no debate at anon. youre budget apparently has a wide range and flat out the G20 is the best option of the 3. If you want a 10mm and you have Delta money then look for a Dan Wesson RZ10 Razorback. if you have more money try a silverback. The RIA doesnt have what i would call a proven record yet and as much as I LOVE the Delta its a great shooter and great looking but it has some quirks to be aware of that in now way reflects the price. Thats an $800 tops but Colt is still retarded as ever
>>29325934
or just go with .45super or a .460 barrel if hes willing to do it at all.
>>29326521
you seriously underestimate the size of cougars and black bears sir and you sure as hell arent factoring shooter ability
>>29330232
Do you think they can do this?
>>29330299
No, you'd have to go keltec for that
>>29324668
>sexy
>glock
pick one
>>29330320
Lol wrong pic
>>29330293
This.
>cougar average weight of around 90lbs
>black bear average weight of around 240lbs
You'd literally be fine with anything that reliably stops humans. Which is 9x19 and up.
>>29326014
It was never in production. It's a wildcat reloader-only caliber.
>>29330232
Thanks! Gonna have to get a few made. Always enjoy seeing that blaster of yours by the way.
>>29330330
"Stop liking what I don't like"
>>29324668
reliable, pretty cheap to buy and own, good trigger,
only reason not to buy is to hope for a good used one
>>29327579
uncle Ted took down a cape buffalo with his Glock 20 on camera. they're coastal grizzly size and certainly not any easier to kill.
>>29330320
Kek'd
>>29326024
Holy shit, at first that helmet looked like a bowl of fruit
>>29330352
that was actually the point i was trying to make before i went full retard and typed "under" instead of "overestimate". Editing posts used to be so nice
>>29324734
This. Revolvers are easier to do point shooting with, anyways. You don't have time to aim in a confrontation with an aggressive Bear.
>>29331707
You're not alone in mistaking it for something else.
I thought it was a bouquet of some sort.
Could any handgun take down a grizzly?
Preferably before it mauls you, but there's a consolation prize for it bleeding out later.
>>29334081
maybe a big ass flintlock pistol if you point blank shot him in the head
>>29334141
>For a while, one dude had calculated that a modern version of the .58 Harpers horse pistol, with a triple-powder load (that's 3 kinds of powder, not 3x the powder) loaded to max, was the most powerful pistol ever commonly made.
>>29330365
>it took me literally 10 seconds to find loaded 9x25 Dillon from both doubletap and underwood
Educate yourself before making claims based on wikipedia knowledge.
>>29324668
10mm is the best choice for maximizing muzzle energy out of an autoloading handgun.
