CZ Rami for 685 after taxes and bg check or an M&P shield 9 for around 500ish from private sellers?
Is the extra capacity and sa/da worth the extra shekels and width?
>M&P Shield 9
>$500
>mfw
Unless you live in Europe and had it smuggled up some gypsy's ass, you're getting fucked with a rake.
>>28712104
>Is the extra capacity and sa/da worth the extra shekels and width?
The premium price on the CZ is for the construction, materials, and name brand. Biggest gripe is even then they don't give you a fucking steel guide rod. 50 bucks for a new spring and guide rod from the custom shop.
Or you could get an LC9s for $350-$375. Or a KelTec. Or whatever other subcompact. They're all pocket guns that are inherently a compromise for concealability. Don't try to read too much into it, IMO. It's not a gun you'll go shooting for fun. It's a gun you want to make sure goes bang when the time is right. Most any gun worth it's salt from a non-shit brand will do that.
>>28712104
I know the M&P Shield is like the standard for concealed carry, but I haven't heard much about the cz. I do prefer SA/DA though, and the extra capacity is probably worth it. In my experience, width doesn't matter that much, the important thing is having a short grip, but this is coming from a guy who cc's a full sized USP, so I may be full of shit.
I don't know anything about the pricing of those guns, but I'd probably go for the cz
you can find cz rami online for around $530
https://www.slickguns.com/search/apachesolr_search/cz%2Brami
>>28712147
This man knows what up.
Around in my area, used go for almost 300. Brand new is not even 400....that includes taxes too.
>>28712147
This.
Highest I've ever seen one was $450. Mine was $390, after shipping.
>>28712104
$685 is a ridiculous amount for that cz. Buds has them for $550
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_82/products_id/62366
>>28712104
>M&P shield 9 for around 500ish
>500
>"ish"
nigger what the fuck? YOU GETTIN' FINESSED
>>28712104
Where the fuck do you live that shields are $500 used? I got mine for $380 plus tax brand new
>>28712174
>construction
Ah yes, the legendary construction of CZs. The tooling marks all over the reciever are just artisan engravings.
>>28712174
>The premium price on the CZ is for the construction, materials, and name brand.
you are serious
look i think cz makes great guns but all points above are objectively wrong
>>28712304
>Ah yes, the legendary construction of CZs.
There is the full length rail and all alloy construction.
Meanwhile other slides are held on the frame with the equivalent of two paper clips or a small bundle of staples.
>>28712360
Ah yes, now the CZ fag makes conjectures on which type of handguns I like. The design of the slide rails and choice in material truly does define the legendary craftsmanship.
>>28712104
CZ is an overrated fedora meme brand. Go get the shield for $329 shipped here:
http://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/115142
Add a $15 FFL transfer fee and you have a new gun for under $350.
>>28712174
>Biggest gripe is even then they don't give you a fucking steel guide rod.
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3843
>>28712462
I'm not law enforcement though..
>>28712462
>CZ fedora meme brand
God you're a no guns faggot. And I say that as a Shield owner coming into this thread to suggest the Shield.
>>28712104
Unless you're talking about the new Performace center line, $500 is way to much OP. $400 new with transfer fees is on the high side of average.
Also get it in 9mm unless you're already invested in .40
>>28712599
Yea 9mm is my caliber of choice. Here in Vegas people are gouging for shields. 2 people are selling regular shields for $450 and $425
>>28712147
this x100. I got mine brand new for $290 flat, granted it was the thumb safety version but they were out of stock the one w/o and I couldn't turn down that price.
So whats wrong with the rami
I fucking love the aesthetics of it and I liked the trigger on the one I handled at a local store
its kinda annoying its that thick but only carrys 10 rounds though, seeing as you can fit 9+1 in this
>>28712104
The shield isn't hard to find for under $380.
Add an APEX trigger and i'd take it over the RAMI any day.
Cz is a really shitty brand.
It costs a premium, but is cheap pot metal, lacks reliability, and looks like shit.
Two fags with buyers remorse shill the whole board
>>28712174
I have a sig p938 and I shoot it recreationally, its a great gun but again the price doesnt really justify the means, unless you're like me and you are willing to pay extra for a gun thats fun as hell to shoot for fun yet small enough to carry in your pocket
>>28713220
Here's you're (you)
>>28713220
Amen!
Post guns, I want to see what a bad motherfucker like you have and marvel at it!
Shield best of the 2
other options are a Walther PPS, Ruger LC9, or a Kahr Arms 9mm compact or subcompact
stay away from new CZs, older ones like the CZ82/83, CZ52, and older CZ75s are fine hand gats, haven't heard anything bad about the CZ97, but ive new handled one.
>500 Dollar Shield
i JEj
>paying extra for the CZ brand name
Not even a good brand name, man.
Goddamn fucking cancer started with OP and kept right on going
I saw a CZ Rami on armslist near me for 399 bucks...did..did I mess up by not buying it?
>>28713274
>you're
oh god this is too good.
*grabs you by the throat*
nothin personal kid
>>28713423
>stay away from new CZs
what's wrong with new CZ's?
I got my M&P .40 Shield for $380 out the door
however im not happy with it at all its inaccurate AF i wish i never bought it. im gonna do the 9mm conversion and see if its any different before i call smith and rip them a new ass for making a trash gun like this
>>28716486
No I think you just don't know how to shoot
>>28712104
You should buy a shield as punishment just for asking
>>28716515
No unfortunately that's not the case i have had 3 other ppl shoot the gun with the same results. also have shot the gun off a rest and came up with the same results every time so you sir can go shove a broom stick up your ass. if you do any research on the gun you will see this is a pretty common issue
>>28716583
No need to waste the time and money, ditch the gun today and go buy a glock or a walther. M&P is such a shit line of guns
>>28716292
Again, what's wrong with new CZ's?
>>28714254
Yup
>>28716292
Sometimes you'll see machining chatter marks inside the slide. There are a few on mine but haven't affected performance at all. Yes they were a mich better deal 4 years ago when they were $400 or less but they're still good guns today regardless of what a couple fags on /k/ think.
>>28716705
Agreed Definitely not impressed. it sucks cus i actually really like the way the gun is set up
>>28716705
>>28716583
>>28716486
That's weird, my 9mm shield is as accurate as I could expect a subcompact semi auto to be. Maybe you really do just suck at shooting and because you're such a limp wristed homo, so are all your friends who equally suck ass.
>>28716936
Lol coming from the guy with a 9mm LMFAO might as well have a vagina you limp dick motherfucker
>>28713220
Love my cz, never had any issues. So I don't know why you're so mad
>>28716979
Let me shoot you in the face with a 9mm and we'll see if you still want to laugh about it.
>>28716993
oh we got a bad ass over here watch out. ill put a 5.56 round through your eye socket from 100yard away before you even see me you fagot
>>28717017
What brand fedora do you prefer?
>>28717025
Brixton is my preferred Brand. where are you going with this Anon
>>28717017
Oh christ you're one of those unrelenting turbofaggots, huh?
You're the online badass, I didn't threaten to shoot you. Just pointing out that 9mm will kill your bitch ass just as dead as .40 or .45.
But goahead and keep being a tier 0 seal delta ranger sniper and shoot me feom hundreds of yards. Won't take away the miles of cock that have run up inside your worn the fuck out ringpiece
>>28717056
>>28717017
you're both being really huge faggots.
>>28717110
N-no, y-you
>>28717127
>>28717175
I just came to the thread to shill for the Walther PPS
cheaper than the Shield, and in my opinion better.
>>28717240
I fingerfucked one last night.
The little red plunger/LCI on the back of the slide that pokes out as you pull the trigger comepletely turned me off of it. Didn't mind the ppq though. Dat short as fuck, positive reset!
>>28717056
I never said "hundreds of yards" i said 100 yards
And your pretty close im actually 82nd airborne delta force recon sniper seal. get it right. but i do agree with you if you get shot in the face with a 9mm its gunna fuck your day up for sure. but on a real note i got no come back for that. Not bad Anon Not Bad. you must talk shit on 4chan a lot LMAO
>>28712104
That m&p is really overpriced relative to itself.
Seems like an easy answer though these guns are pretty different. Do you like alloy framed hammer fired da/sa or polymer striker pistols? Pick one.
>>28716936
>as accurate as I could expect a subcompact semi auto to be
no qualifiers, my glock 43 is accurate. pretty fucking dead on accurate.
>>28717369
I like da/sa for sure but I'm not sure if it's worth the premium and extra thickness/weight for a ccw
>>28713220
Everything you said in that post is objectively wrong.
Did a Czech man rape your mother or something? You clearly have a bone to pick.
>>28717240
My buddy bought this to conceal carry. I wasn't the biggest fan, grip felt strange to me.
