ABRAMS FAGS BTFO
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ABRAMS FAGS BTFO
Fielding estimates, ie, you can get this many for the price of this one are really irrelevant, because britbongs don't have anywhere near the logistical infrastructure that the US does.
The filter does not need to be cleaned every two hours, don't know where this "fact" came from
You would never point an M2 machine gun at a fucking ditch, it has a M240B up top for that purpose, the M2 per the geneva convention is only for engaging armored targets
Battlesight accuracy isn't even comparable, the M1 has a cutting edge thermal sight array
M1 is far more survivable, has a far more reliable drivetrain, suspension and tracks, has a superior main gun and targeting system, can shoot a vast array of extremely powerful cutting edge munitions
not replying any further to this bait thread
>>28347258
Everyone knows this is Pierre Sprey.
This is a particularly weak bait thread.
>>28347305
sir the m240 is jammed but we cant shoot the m2 at that rpg mandude because we'll get in trouble
*dies with honor*
>pierre sprey
So not only did he design the A-10 and F-16, the best combat aircraft
He also designed the M-48?
Also i didn't know the Abrams was so shit, or is this not real.
>>28347258
Did you start this sad bait thread too? >>28346451
Make way for the best tank design ever
>>28347424
Well DESU Sprey has some points.. the Abrams could be better. But it's still a fine tank and couldn't be better by much.
The Abrams can probably outrun the majority of cars on the planet, too.
>>28347658
Well no i'm sure the abrams could be a LOT better
But the army seems to have serious issues with procurement.
Maybe fighting in a flat desert for the last 25 years fucked with their heads.
>>28347509
>that pic
>>28347773
>flat desert
>>28347258
I know this is bait, but....
Operational
range
M48 and M48A1 113 km, M48A2 258 km
M1A2: 426 km (265 mi)
Numbers engaged:
Need sources.
Machine Gun effectiveness:
Comparing apples to oranges. Move the tank slightly.
Firefight mobility: Weapon stabilization.
M48 max spead: 30mph
M1 Abram: 45 mph
Rate of kill.
M48 was armed with 105 mm. More ammo doesn't mean equal firepower.
Crew survival:
M1 Abrams proved itself at the Gulf War and Iraqi and Afghanistan occupation.
M48 not so much. It got rekt by M4s armed with 105mm cannons.
>>28347258
>>28347509
needs more dakka
>>28347313
Here, I'll spruce it up a bit.
>>28347258
It makes me happy to know that people saved and still post my image that I made from Spreys retarded ideas.
>>28347773
Not that you can quantify its failings compared to its contemporaries.
![1451334701554[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/93kzvaO.png "1451334701554[1].png")
>>28347258
>>28347998
Well... whats wrong with it?
>>28348311
>75 to 90mm gun
>sides protected up to 12.7mm
Nothing! In 1954.
I know OP just posted bait, but here's something in which Sprey and his side get their asses handed to them.
https://etd.auburn.edu/bitstream/handle/10415/595/MICHEL_III_55.pdf
>>28347258
Fuck off Sprey.
You should have just killed yourself after you finished working on the A-10.
>>28347305
>the M2 per the geneva convention is only for engaging armored targets
Good thread. Bumping
>>28347998
>>28347258
When does he address the fact that the M48s gun is completely incapable of penetrating any modern MBT from the front at any range?
Didnt the M48s struggle with the front armour of JS3s during the Arab-Israeli war in the 60s? What fucking chance does it have against a T-72 or T-80?
>>28350657
You're thinking about it wrong.
In the proposed scenario, the tank is functioning as heavy infantry support, NOT as a t-t combat vehicle
>>28347424
Pierre Sprey didn't design shit, he set out requirements for the programs that would eventually yield those planes. He's an idiot hack who thinks all air combat is the same as it was in korea.
