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Is this amount of rattle and play normal in a CZ SP01?
https://vid.me/OD3l
https://vid.me/h6Ac
https://vid.me/cT5N
just shoot the fucking thing. if accuracy isnt up to snuff then start bitching
>>30657939
>just got it
>shoot it
>can't return because you shot it
>>30657979
its a gun you cant retun it anyways
>>30658006
Kyguncos site says you can't
Not that I wouldn't try
>>30657896
Why don't you clip your fucking fingernails you disgusting shut in? Clean yourself up then go outside and actually shoot the thing
Yes rattling is normal in CZs
The magazines rattle too when a odd number of rounds are loaded in them.
>>30658039
Because it's for guitar autist
>>30658057
I have no mag in the gun in the vid, but I have had a few CZ owners tell me their guns don't do this. I'm not really sure what to expect or do, it's my first pistol.
Last night you cant shoot aguila... Today you think it rattles.
Mother fucket shut up and go shoot your fucking gun.
>>30658086
> I'm not really sure what to expect or do, it's my first pistol.
aka i dont have time to go to the range so im going to finger fuck my new toy endlessly finding imaginary or nonexistent flaws. go shoot the thing
>>30658123
I never said anything about aguila last night what are you talkin bout
>>30658156
I actually shot it about 10 times but I won't tell the gunCo guys that.
Its totally fine.
All handguns rattle on some level. Unless its some custom 1911 that was made to be as tight as possible.
>>30657896
OP, rattle is normal. I think the added weight at the muzzle is making the barrel rattle a bit more than ones without the longer threaded barrel. But it seems fine. Here's some vids of my CZ SP-01 rattling a bit, although my phone mic sucks ass a bit.
https://vid.me/xdYw
https://vid.me/D5bd
KYGunCo is good people in my limited experience and CZ is good people. Please no hate.
>>30657896
>those nails
czfags are truly the troglodytes of the gun community
>>30657896
thats normal.
also did you pick that CZ 75 at an AGR outdoors that one looks familiar.
>>30659912
KYgunco
>>30659641
You got the mag in mate.
Can you press on the slide and frame downwards and move the barrel like I did in the videos?
>>30657896
I rechecked my sp-01after the last post on, and i have no such wobble anywhere on my gun.
CZ offers a warranty on manufacturing defects; as i legitimately think ur slide was milled incorrectly.
>>30660152
Since I've had the gun for one day if I was going to do that I would just take it back to gunco and bitch.
I don't want to fuck with the manufacturer, they're libel to take 5 weeks and just replace something or not fix it etc.
>>30657896
>Buys a CZ
>Proceeds to wonder why the "CZ ashit" meme exists
gtfo.
>>30660178
Here's the slide test.
https://vid.me/SBo6
Full disclosure, I've polished the bearing surfaces on the slide that interact with the frame. While all I did was polish it (minimal to no material removal) I just wanted to be clear that this gun isn't stock.
>>30659641
>That foot rack.
>>30659641
>>30657896
My cz doesn't make that horrid noise.
Mine is the safety model though
vid.me/ZQ6v
>>30660332
All of my CZ firearms can be operated with feet if needed.
https://vid.me/xdpw
Czechnology, boys.
>>30660374
https://vid.me/ZQ6v
>>30660374
The slide one in particular is just a very minor amount of play allowing the slide to move vertically at the muzzle end. Honestly, I'm surprised yours has no such noise. Either way mine works just fine, there's absolutely no issues when I'm shooting it.
>>30660467
My sp-01 only has exactly 500 Rds through it though.
Perhaps the play increases with age.
Accuracy is good even in my noob hands
OPs gun makes wayyy to much noise to be normal.
>>30660534
What kind of guide rod is in yours?
The only way I can get mine to be as noisy as it was in my videos was to shake it vigorously. Just normal handling/aiming/swinging doesn't produce as much of a ruckus, and I think what noise it does make might just be my stainless steel guide rod slapping against the slide, which makes sense given that it's only anchored at one end.
>>30660597
I have the stock plastic rod.
I was told by the CZ forums not to use a stainless rod.
Wonder is OP has the stainless rod as well
>>30660660
Me again - Another thing could be the use of a weaker spring.
People usually use a weaker spring alongside a steel guide rod.
A weaker spring would out less pressure on the barrel and could potentially make it wobble more
>>30660318
Lmao Czech piece of fuck
How old is yours? Mine is brand new and stock.
I assume you get side to side rattle without mag in also?
>>30660660
Op here. Gun is brand new and completely stock. Less than 15 rounds through it.
>>30660758
>>30660747
Mine is pretty damn close to new. Probably around 700 rounds right now. Got it about a month and a half ago.
I've polished the rails on the slide, replaced the recoil spring and guide rod (recoil spring is much lighter, as the one guy was guessing), hammer spring, and firing pin w/ firing pin spring.
I've played with it some more and can say that the slide does not rattle at all unless I'm specifically applying force to it like in the last video. The overwhelming majority of the sounds you can hear when I shake mine are the steel guide rod slapping against the other parts of the slide or frame. holding the guide rod while shaking it muffles pretty much all of the noise. I think the last bit of sound (including what I get from side-to-side) is the barrel, which as the other guy suggested may not be held as still because of the weaker recoil spring. If I hold the gun from the muzzle end, I get absolutely no sound no matter how hard I shake.
>>30660867
So yours is modded and would cause way more noise and still doesn't rattle as much as my stock one?
Damn think I'm making a trip to gunCo soon
>>30660770
Does it have the stock plastic guide rod?
>>30660895
Yes. I haven't even disassembled the gun yet. Bone stock.
>>30660893
Yeah I'm starting to think you're right. The only variable I can think of is the longer threaded barrel. I have no idea how much that would contribute to the noise but it seems a bit excessive.
Best of luck in finding a solution man. I love the shit out of my SP-01, I hope you can get one that works out for you.
>>30660907
Disassemble it and take a pic of the guide rod and spring.
I have a feeling something is screwy with urs
>>30660956
Yeah I know kyguncos policy is "just send it to the manufacturer" but I'm hoping since it's just a day old I can get something done without going through the manufacturers mess.
>>30660958
Give me a sec.
Going to do this when I get back.
Inc pics
Everything looks fine to me
Thought the guide rod was a little bent but I don't think so anymore, also wouldn't be the cause I don't think
>>30661771
that's the right spring and rod.
do you have a set of calipers?
is so, try to measure the distance between the slide rails.
>>30661854
I think I have digital calipers somewhere but I know the batteries are dead.
>>30661882
besides clearances in the slide rails, i can't think of any other reason for that noise ur gun makes.
My P-01 does the thing in the 3rd vid, so I think it's just the extended barrel making that noise on yours.
Most probably a quirk of the browning design, nothing to worry about.
>>30661947
I think it is the slide to frame fit. Clamping the front of the slide and bottom rail and shaking produces no noise that I could hear.
As long as I know this isn't going to be stupid to walk into KYgunco and rattle my gun.
>>30661954
I wouldn't be worried if everyone said their CZs did this but most I've seen say theirs do not.
Overall, I highly suspect that the function of your gun will not be affected. You've probably got a bit more clearance in your gun that some of the others have. I don't think it's a function problem tho. But even so, if it bothers you, I don't think you'd be in the wrong to contact someone to see if anything can be done about it. At the same time, because it probably doesn't affect the operation of the gun, I wouldn't get your hopes up too much.
>>30658278
>>30658123
That guy had a sp01 WITHOUT suppressor height sights and threaded barrel.
>>30657896
That's why you fingerfuck what you'll buy, OP.
Now, live in regret.
>>30662077
I did fingerfuck it quite a bit, one model I did more and noticed the sights were crooked, then I got that one out back and looked it over, did everything besides rattle it really and it looked fine.
I didn't think to rattle the fucking gun. I know now though.
>>30662007
So you don't think KYgunco will be inclined to replace the firearm?
>>30662006
When the gun is cocked, I get the same rattle.
It's normal.
I broke in my P-01 by feeding it a tin of tulammo 9mm.
There's nothing wrong with your gun if it works properly.
>>30662171
I'm not sure if accuracy is going to be affected by my rattle, also mine rattles cocked or uncocked.
Besides a gun can work properly (fire) and still have issues no?
>>30662215
Put your gun in a rest and group with it, if it groups at the POA then congrats you have a working gat.
My friend has a WW2 1911 that rattles like the slide will fall off, but it puts .45" sized holes in paper at where it's pointed.
>>30662267
I wish I had a rest and vice, unfortunately I'll just have to rest it on my 4x4 or something.
>>30662171
Shit dude, that looks nice. Details on the sights? Also, I assume those are VZ frag grips?
>>30662103
No, to be honest I'd be surprised if they did replace your gun. Worth a shot of course, but I doubt they'll help you much in this case. I also think they'll just point you in the direction of CZ themselves either way.
>>30662307
A decent gun range will rent you one.
What does the target look like in your CZ case? Should be reasonably accurate at 25m.
Have the czcustom tactical sights and VZ frag black grips.
Rear:
http://czcustom.com/cz-parts-all/front-and-rear-sights/rear-sights/cz-75-85-p01-rear-sights/cz-75-tactical-rear-sight-standard-dovetail.html
Front:
http://czcustom.com/cz-parts-all/front-and-rear-sights/front-sight/tritium-front-sights/cz-tritium-front-sight-6-5mm.html
>>30662425
I will go rest on my 4x4 tomorrow if you think that's accurate enough. But if what:>>30662333
Says is true it won't matter.
I really don't want to go through CZ. I know that shit will take forever and I JUST bought this.
>>30657896
Bought mine three days ago. I hear a little bit of a rattle but not much. I also don't have the silencer ready model so...dunno.
>>30657896
>>30662630
My slide does sound like that, though.
>>30658123
...that was me.
The fine folks at Federal Ammo hooked me up and I've had no problems.
>>30659641
During the great race war, you will find yourself injured and unable to use your hand to rack.
But you have prepared for this moment...
>>30662576
You do you.
I think your gun is fine.
>>30662716
I may call and just see what kygunco thinks I dunno
Hopefully I can get the same guy who sold me the gun, he was super helpful.
It's only about a 40 minute drive and if they did exchange it I would have so much more peace of mind and this wouldn't bother me lol
>>30657979
you can't fucking return guns you idiot
>>30657896
your barrel is rattling against the slide
any gun can do that, including glocks
>>30657896
Looks like you just have loose slide to frame fit, which is normal. Tight slide to frame fit is less important than people think. Far more important is how tight your barrel is to your slide when in battery. Looks normal to me.
>>30662805
wat
They will exchange yes? That's what I mean
>>30662703
Why would I be born with feet if not to use them? I'm still working on my fine motor skills with them desu. I've got working rifle bolts down, still can't quite change the elevation/windage on my scopes.
>>30657896
If yours is anything like mine, then it will rattle when empty and will not rattle when loaded with a round in the chamber.
>>30662943
I have so far to go before I'm a true /k/ommando
>>30662998
haha joke's on you, I'm a newfag.
Also I actually have no idea how the word "desu" got into that last comment. I swear to god I typed tho. I'm not on mobile so it's not autocorrect.
>>30662991
Hmm. Haven't tried rattling with a loaded gun.
>>30663211
Just don't shoot urself, or ur neighbors dog
If you do, make sure to make a video
>>30663027
Word filter f a m -> "senpai"
>>30664837
senpai
>>30662881
no, most places wont exchange guns.
>>30665918
The gun is an exclusive to them, surely places exchange guns? Everything else gets exchanged.
>>30665987
the serial number is yours now. its not something they can simply swap out. you might be able to trade it in at a loss.
>>30662881
>>30662805
In ever gun store or pawn shop I've ever been to "ALL SALES FINAL" "NO RETURNS"
If you have an issue, take it to a gun smith or use your warranty.
That being said, OP's gun is probably fine. Shoot a few hundred rounds through it and see how you feel then once it fully breaks in.
>>30666016
Wait what? So like a registry? I didn't think it worked like that.
>>30666026
Let's hope. It just irks me to death especially since it's brand fucking new. If accuracy is spot on and function is okay I guess I just have to get over it.
I do wonder however if problems arose or I did send it to CZ in the future how they would go about righting the firearm? If the frame and slide happened to be both milled incorrectly and they needed to send a new gun, how would they do so considering it's a limited time store exclusive?
>>30666050
>how they would go about righting the firearm?
If it is milled incorrectly, they would probably refit you a new frame or something.
It cant hurt to contact them. Of course if it functions flawlessly they may say it is a non-issue.
>>30659315
Lmao, want to shake my loaded USP and repeat that statement?
>>30666089
>comparing plastic to metal gun
Let me shake my 1911 for you
>>30666086
What a fucking mess. Refit a new frame, presumably that would be marked differently and all. Not worth it. If it did function flawlessly and kygunco wouldn't give me a new firearm id likely not contact CZ.
>>30666097
Funny, my fathers new Springfield 1911 literally doesn't make a sound when violently shaken exactly like my CZ. Nothing. Solid as hell.
Don't polymer guns actually tend to rattle MORE than metal? Since the slide to frame fit is typically looser?
My cz 75 compact doesn't rattle. It's probably that extended barrel.
>>30666097
>all guns
End quote
Trolling aside, your gun is fed more loose than my usp, but all guns do that friend, it can't be solid or it wouldn't be a gun
I'll link u a vid of my usp if I can
It's gonna be shitty phone vid
>>30666116
It's not just the barrel rattling, in the video you can see that the slide rattles as well and pressing on the slide and the frame together causes a click.
>>30657896
Am I the only one sexually aroused by these videos?
Be honest with me guys.
>>30666140
https://vid.me/sh4i
If it doesn't work whatever
>>30665987
No, its like a car. Once you drive it off the lot its yours.
you can send it back to the factory for repairs and maybe a replacement, but thats handled through the manufacturer.
>>30666156
Well it seems that some rattling is certainly acceptable, at least according to some here.
I'm disappointed that mine rattles when some apparently have guns that don't but oh well.
>>30666166
Interesting. I really did not know that guns were like that, genuinely surprised to be honest.
That still has me wondering how in the future they would replace a gun that is a limited run store exclusive. Very odd.
Do gun companies make no exceptions even when the purchase date of the item was so short ago? I mean I did literally purchase it yesterday.
>>30666196
call them and ask.
http://cz-usa.com/support/warranty/
>>30666222
I may email for curiosity sake but I do not feel like asking any particular questions about my gun or starting any sort of warrant process. I know how that shit goes, you go weeks without your gun and pray that they do a good clean job and it's still never the same as when you get it new.
As mentioned if there are any actual problems I will likely try gunco first and if that doesn't work go through CZ only as a last resort if there are actually issues.
But I'm hoping that the gun will actually be okay judging by some other posts and people with rattling guns.
>>30666235
My usp didn't have HK wear on it, and has shot 1000+ rounds of 3 different brands of ammo without a hiccup
Shoot your gun, and also. Clip those fuckers, If u can't remember start biting your nails, it's less disgusting than that
Also, this is what u get for buying the subhuman guns
Heil Deutschland
>>30666247
>HK wear
What the fuck is that?
If I clip my nails my fingerpicking will go to shit.
Also I got a CZ pistol because my CZ rifle (first personal gun) is beautiful and I love it.
>>30666251
When you shoot usps the barrel will have wear on it
People unfamiliar with HK will think it's a flaw in the finish
If this thread is still up and I shoot tomorrow I'll post groups from 20 yards or so resting on a vehicle.
It seems that some think I should keep it and it's normal and some others think it's excessive but I suppose in the end if it shoots well and accurate rattle isn't a problem.
Also on further inspection shaking the gun up and down has no rattle it's only when shaken side to side. It is 99 percent sure to be slide to frame fit. Since I can click it left to right without shaking the gun and yield a similar noise.
>>30666327
Bump for groups
>>30668765
Don't know if it's me or the gun but holy fuck, I slung 5 rounds at paper with center hold resting off my Arctic cat and only one got on paper (printing paper) at about 20-25 yards.
It very well could've been me I'm an awful pistol shooter and a total novice, but damn I've got nothing to go on now.
