What is the best type of sword for self defence and why is it clearly the superior katana.
I disagree.
>>30648603
Why
Prove me wrong
Pro tip - (you cant)
>>30648595
When it comes to cutting down unarmored people, which you would face in any realistic sotuation, accept no substitute
>>30648615
K A T A N A - 2 - K U K R I
The only thing I need to protect myself from a gun nut is my trusty katana and atheism.
>>30648645
That's clearly not a real katana
>What is the best type of sword for self defence
an M1866 Yataghan Sword Bayonet, attached to a modern firearm,
>and why is it clearly the superior katana.
Because you touch yourself at night while fantasising about pre-pubescent boys.
>>30648653
Well not any more- now it's just a shitty kukri.
>>30648595
Your dick. Just whip it out and fend off their attacks.
>>30648668
No it was just improperly made. Trust me I own several katanas
>>30648615
good luck im behind at least 30 spiders
>>30648653
Prove it ;)
>>30648595
>defence
You'll go prison for using any object to inflict bodily harm.
Katana is a perfectly adequate sword, generally rather large for indoor use though, which is why Tojo carried a wakizashi too.
All else being equal though, the rapier is the superior weapon for 1v1 combat.
>>30648700
You can tell by the type of metal
>>30648653
I'm amazed by your x-ray vision to be able to tell this.
Please, explain to me exactly how a katana forged by Steffan Roth, the only westerner to have become a member of the Nippon Bijutsu Token Hozon Kyokai who has also spent 7 years training as a smith in Japan, is not a "real katana" when it was forged from japanese-sourced tamahagane in the traditional manner, by a recognised bladesmith?
And more importantly, how can you tell this from a , 387x217 pixel gif?
>Hanwei Practical XL Katana Unveiling HD
This is op
>>30648725
Tell me what type of metal it is F A M. Be specific and provide proofs :b
>>30648734
Someone on /b/ heard /k/ is hands down the easiest to troll
please prove him wrong, i know its actually /a/ but no one believes me
>>30648645
>posting the edited version
Original version coming through
>>30648888
at this point its trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls.
in fact its trolls all the way down.
>>30648595
A sword bayonet attached to a rifle.
Your argument is fucking invalid.
I can stab while I shoot and shoot while I stab.
Alternatively an M1897 trench gun with a sword bayonet.
>>30648925
>this
>>30648900
I can't believe people actually attempted to make this
>not using the superior european longsword
>not halfswording against methheads and dindus
>not warding off attackers with mordhau
>>30648976
I lol'd pretty hard here at this public office
>You niggers don't know their is only one katana
>Katanas are unbreakable tempered steel folded one million times
>To find out if you have the one true katana you must test it against all the other katanas
>If the sword breaks it was never a katana
>Once all the katanas are broken or bent there is only true katanas
>and that katana will be cut in half by literally any kukri
>>30648595
funny enough, the katana is made for quick assassination style kills, so it actually makes it pretty poor for "defense". Despite the gladius, machete, and kukri being the better weapon for combat, the katana is pretty small and light so it wouldve worked for ronin and ninjas.
Actual samurai preferred the spear and firearm on horseback and only used the katana as a last resort weapon
>>30649160
Shhhh... You're going to crush the poor weeb's dreams with your reality!
I unironically want a katana. What should I get for under $2k?
Katans are cool, if you like one, buy one.
Thats all there is to it.
What the superior sword is is irrelevant unless your opponent also carries a sword. That would be a weird break-in.
Imagine the headlines.
>Home robbery turns into sword duel.
>Robber loses head.
>More at 11.
>>30649199
a gun
>>30649160
>kukri
>being a good weapon
It is a knife axe hybrid, great at killing a person just like a katana is but it isn't meant for parrying ir blocking.
>>30649062
Some katanas were supposed to break. They were forged it in such a way that even when the blade split, it still retained a perfect edge. That way, when an opponent made such a powerful blow that it did break the sword, he would still be in for a deadly surprise. This was also what lead to the creation of the wakizashi.
>>30649242
This. As a thing for killing a dissimilarly armed person a katana is really good, it's a big two handed sword whose only design priority is cutting good.
>>30649257
>>30649257
>Some katanas were supposed to break. They were forged it in such a way that even when the blade split, it still retained a perfect edge
Even when I shitpost I still learn something truly a magical place
>>30649259
>it's a big two handed sword whose only design priority is cutting good.
that's basically all big two handed swords though.
>>30649199
It depends on what you want.
There's plenty out there, the main choice is if you want traditional esthetics, with a nice hamon or functionality.
Getting a sword with a nice hamon has the drawback of most of the sword being unhardened steel... making it bend like the one in the video when very strongly hitting something.
There are modern swords with a Bianite rather than unhardened back, but they have no blade structure and a simple hamon.
https://www.martialartswords.com/collections/japanese-swords/products/maple-katana
If you want something that both has a nice blade structure without bending permanently on a bad cut, you could also take a look at spending 2K on a European or Chinese alternative:
e.g.
http://www.templ.net/english/weapons-antiquity_and_early_middle_age.php
>>30649309
Only the German messers. A real long thin double sided sword is meant for versatility (including half swording) and range.
There's also the distinction that in Europe most two handed swords were field swords whereas katanas are basically gigantic sidearm.
>>30649309
see this pic >>30649028
these large two handers would have fins that would stop a blade in its tracks and it also has that enormous handguard for the same purpose
the swords were designed to guard against attacks since the other hand would be used for weilding the sword also, instead of holding a shield like they typically would
>>30649362
Is there a reason the Nips never used large cross guards? I know metal was harder to come by the Europe or was it just Japanese refusal to break with tradition
>>30649471
Tradition mostly. They did make military swords with European-style handguards after Commodore Perry forced them to open their ports and modernize.
>>30649471
I think they knew because of the shit steel the guards would just break over a couple of impacts. This is why the best samurai are always depicted as agile I suppose, since the best ones dont get hit.
>>30649471
The large cross-guards tend to be used in fighting styles that have a lot of binding..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjT4JepA-Vc
maybe not ideal when most of your sword it unhardened steel weak to lateral pressure.
btw..
Does any mass manufacturer currently make a complex hilt bastard backsword?
Or is custom still the only way to get one?
>>30649593
I'd pick the same type as home-defense sword.
>>30648595
My pic is pretty good.
It was forged by an ancient dwarven smith called Eugenius Stonercleaver.
This magic blade can kill enemies from far just by pointing it and pulling a trigger.
Another very useful one is called the AK, made by an Orchish warlock called M'kaar'hyl Timofeevich Kal' Ahsh Nkov but it's said only goblinds and sand people use it these cursed weapons now.
>>30649631
Also I'm too drunk to shitpost, tons of typos.
>>30648595
Grandfather brought some home from Japan after WW2. Broke some splitting stove wood. The katana is more of a meme weapon.
>>30649593
Had that very one for junkie visitors in NY
>>30648900
Not a katana. The tip of the blade changes.
>>30649631
/k/ approved.
>>30648595
Sword Cutlass
I agree OP..
Self defense with swords WILL almost always take place in close quarters like your home. The only European style swords useable there are one handed arming swords. Good luck bringing a greatsword to bear in a doorway.
Katanas are only sharp on one edge. This is important because you're not gonna be fighting off a real attacker in armor, so you do not want to risk hurting yourself with your own sword.
The curved profile is better for deep cutting with shallow swings you would make in a hallway and while European designs are more suitable for stabbing your first instinct is probably to swing it like a baseball bat, so the katana is a fine sword for home defense.
So long as you actually keep it sharp.
If you don't, then an arming sword is the better choice.
>>30650529
I'm not going to make ANY swings indoors, there just isn't room for that. Thrusts all day. For that a rapier or spada da lato would be great
Some kind of short sword.
I don't see a katana or a zweihander being very useful innahouse.
>>30648595
The only reported katana murders in my country were commited by homosexuals in jealous rage.
Strange but true.
>>30651948
which country?
>>30650500
It's all-
up to you.
>>30648595
Chinese Jian
Chinese > Japanese any day.
>>30650460
Don't you get it? At the point of impact, the katana will change into the perfect weapon
>>30649247
The gurkas aren't used to their opponents being armed with swords, as their prefered tactic is to slit your throat while you sleep.
>>30650529
Thrusts are infinitely better at killing people unless you are talking about cleaving them in half. People have a natural aversion to thrusting though... but if you over come that a rapier is the best sword indoors,
>>30652262
> your account has just been credited 50ยข
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>>30648595
>sword for self defence
A hidden cane sword would be the closest to ideal for this day and age. Just like CCWs, the idea is to not let your potential assailants know where your weapon is on your body.
Now the only issue is deciding whether you want a stab-only smallsword blade or something with an edge. Also figuring out how to carry it without looking like an autist walking around with a cane he clearly doesn't need. Maybe it would look more convincing if you're an older gentleman with a substantial beard.
>>30648595
Rhomphia bitch
>>30649631
The AK is an elvish weapon, anon.
>>30652413
Cuts are safer when fighting an opponent with another melee weapon and are harder to avoid when done properly. It is hard to stab someone in the hand to make him drop his knife compared to slicing his fingers after all.
Just about any edged sword design should do fine however. Only ridiculously specialized ones with no edge will have a problem. Hell, even a greatsword can be used for home defense if you fall back on the more spear-like maneuvers and make use of its huge reach.
>>30649471
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehfp6fPjwpA
>>30651944
A katana is fairly short though, could be half the size of a zweihander for that matter.
>>30648595
Depends on the situation.
For the skilled swordsman, some kind of jian.
For prolonged open field battles, long sword with a strong guard
For the untrained a dao because it can just hack apart anything, has a nice circle guard and is relatively easy to use since it armed Chinese infantry for thousands of years.
>>30648717
>>>>>>>>implyinggggg
welcome to spear
Rapier.
i highly doubt that any of us are master swordsmen so just get a kukri. It's design allows for punishing blows with minimal effort.
>>30656083
>>30657295
This.
A Dadao or 20+ inch bladed kukri are your best bets.
>>30657368
European alternatives like falchions, cutlasses and dussacks and one handed messer would also do the trick.
But it's more likely that you'll find a decent Chinese type to buy of the shelf.
Kukri make sense, but will be at disadvantage when facing a longer object in the hands of the opponent, like a sword, baseball-bat or golf-club.
>>30657431
White people designs are always the best, but you're right that they are expensive.
There is a version of this that is 6-7 inches longer. About $250 I believe. Not a bad option for someone in Cuckanada or Swedistan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2fRUtkgk8I
ou need to carry a weapon in medieval world tho. It's unsafe enough in the streets at night, imagine how shit it would be if you have to travel to another town at night. Wolves, stray dogs, road agents, brigands, desperados, all sort of people would like to have a piece of you.
In medieval england, there's a law that requires an adult to own at least a sword while in china, travellers would carry a sword with them (Usually jian or straight sword, while monks would usually carry a that ringed staff). Even in Japan, where a plebs couldn't carry a sword, they would still carry a simple staff to protect themselves
>>30649707
>Broke some splitting stove wood
And why would you even do that?
>>30649604
Arms and armor makes one
>>30649707
>An old sword breaks when it's abused
Who would've thought
>>30652446
50ยข a shit post is pretty fuggen good where do I sign up?
>>30648595
>>30648615
Because the katana is absolute shit. It was brittle as fuck, and would chip whenever used. It was thin, and would bend if struck hard enough. The katana was created to make up for Japan's shit teir iron, and is inferior to pretty much anything else.
>>30648595
Pleb. All of you.
>>30650481
How effective would that be at stopping impacts?
>>30658458
Of course it's better if i don't forget my pic.
>>30658466
this would get absolutely rekt without a shield
Wouldn't a spear be good for home defense
>long reach, so even if they have a knife you can stay away
>ability to thrust deep into them
>>30660407
*knocks spear to the side and lunges at spearholder*
>>30659794
Maximus did just fine without one.
>>30660513
(you)
>>30660525
He was a fucking cavalryman.
Do you live in a field on a horse, or do you live in a house?
>>30660407
You want something that you can swing as well, and will fuck their hand up if they try grab it.
>>30660604
>>30660407
only if the house layout supports it. You don't turning stairways or furniture cockblocking your spear.
>>30657099
>not using a net and trident
