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I'm in the market for a Marlin Model 60. Are the new manufactured ones still ok or is it best to buy one pre-2006?
>>30636889
Older is always better for Marlin.
Thinking of buying a bullpup.
Is the Kel-Tec RFB any good?
I don't live in the US, and legal bullpup options are very limited here. Of all the ones available, I'm really interested in the RFB, mainly because it's chambered in .308 (most bullpups here are chambered in .223 or 12 gauge).
My second question: in terms of practicality, is hunting with a bullpup viable?
>>30636889
Older ones are such good deals. They get shot and never cleaned so they start jamming. Fudds dump them, you can get 'em cheap. Clean and adjust for the win.
>>30636889
I have a new one and had an older one.
The older one felt a lot better, but the newer one is fine for a new shooter.
>>30636889
I love the old marlin 60.
I went to the local "big name" shop and found one from the late 80's which had the long barrel with the full length tube.
Cleaned it up and it works great. Got it for $45
>>30636889
What's the value of a MAK-90 that has the 3rd pin hole with a rivet in it? Does anyone know anything about them?
>>30637077
1. The Kel-Tec RFB is a myth, The only guns Kel-Tec actually makes are the PF9 and the P3AT but they lie and make up fake photoshopped images and videos with cool new weapon designs to get their company name out there. If anyone tells you they one time saw anything other than a PF9 or a P3AT in a gunstore then they are secretly an undercover Kel-Tec PR employee and you should report them to the authorities.
2. Theres nothing wrong with hunting with a bullpup why would there be?
Speaking of Marlin, I have an old Marlin 20-A that I'd like to disassemble and clean and fix a problem with the tube. It doesn't latch. Anyone know where I could find a disassembly manual or something on it? I can't seem to find one.
I've got a budget of $1000, I want a rifle in either .223 or .308, of course I'm thinking of AR-15, FAL, M1A, but what other guns should I look into?
>>30638710
AR-180
other than the SW MP 9c
which other pistols are most like a Glock 19?
>>30638710
If you are a man living in America and you dont own an AR-15 then secretly other men laugh at you behind you back because you are not a true man or a true American. Go find good deals on a quality lower and upper and then peice the rest of the parts together with whatever the fuck you think looks cool. Ar-15s are the most popular weapon here and literally every single gun company makes parts for it and they are the cheapest they will be right now because of election time coming up soon.
If you have a budget of 1k then you do not fucking want a .308, the gun alone will run you over 1k and the cheapest plinking ammo is TWICE as expensive as the cheapest .223.
>>30636889
Either or. I've got a newer one and an older one. Just make sure if you buy used you check the ejector/lifter spring and change out the buffer if need be.
It can be a pain in the ass to do the buffer but YouTube has all the videos.
>>30636889
Tried asking this in the AR thread a bit ago, but might as well post about:
Hey. I'm super new to ARs, but I'm looking to put together a 308.
What's a good place to start? I'd prefer to go with an 80% lower, and do it relatively cheaply. I looked up some videos of people drilling some lowers out with hand drills and routers, so it doesn't seem terribly hard, just time consuming - but I'm not really sure what to look out for when finding compatible parts, or what is considered a decent price.
>>30638780
So after I build my AR-15, what else should I look at owning?
>>30638807
>>30638780
Oh hey, I didn't read the thread. That's good to know. Fuck 308 then... My budget is also about 1000
>>30638838
A quality optic, be it 1x red dot or a magnified scope because this isnt the 80's and iron sights are for backup.
Also a thousand rounds of Tula atleast, goo deal is around 21 cents per round shipped so about 210 bucks for 1k.
>>30638807
If you're super new, you really shouldn't start with an 80% lower, because if you fuck something up it'll be an uphill battle to recognize and fix it.
Ar-10s aren't standardized the way the ar-15 is
There's DPMS pattern (more popular) and Armalite pattern. You can google images of AR-10s from each company and compare them to see the differences.
>>30638857
>Fuck 308 then... My budget is also about 1000
PSA has some good stuff, I've heard. But yeah, start off with a plain-Jane ar-15 in 5.56 ... You'll like it more than you think you will.
>>30638879
What are some decent optics to look at? Say around $300?
>>30638687
>The Kel-Tec RFB is a myth
Explain
>>30638882
>If you're super new, you really shouldn't start with an 80% lower, because if you fuck something up it'll be an uphill battle to recognize and fix it.
Well I live in California, so I kinda wanna build it...
Are there and decent non-pistol grip stocks? (for circumventing current bullet button laws, and just for curiosity's sake)
>>30638942
Ares SCR lower. That's the only non-abortion of a stock.
If I were you, however, I wouldn't give a good god-damn about complying with those laws. They're useless and a burden on everyone, regardless of what your legislature thinks.
>>30638901
Youd have to narrow it down to what youre looking for in an optic. If were talking 1x red dots around 300$? Aimpoints are king of red dots but even used aimpoint h1's go for 400-450 easy, I'd stay away from Eotech because of them being shady as absolute fuck about their holo optics delaminating and leaking pressure. Primary arms MD-ADS is solid and runs about 170$.
Whatever you do do not fucking cheap out on the mount, maybe see if you can go into a gunstore or range and try some optics out to see what you like.
>>30638955
That's actually a nice looking stock. Trigger looks like a tad bit of a stretch, but I'd have to hold it...
Yah, the laws are bullshit but I need to take the gun to a public range to shoot, and I'm still not sure how sane people are here. I don't come from CA, and I don't want people telling authorities for whatever asinine reason they have (personal accountability or what-have-you).
>>30638988
Thanks for the advice
>>30636889
I was on another board arguing about gun control and I posited the definition of a machine gun as being a fully automatic rifle that's belt fed.
Naturally someone objected to the "belt fed" part of my definition; but it got me thinking how many machine guns are there that aren't belt fed. The only one I could think of was the old Soviet Degtyarev LMG.
So how wrong was I?
>>30639062
There are plenty of magazine fed machine guns. BAR, HK21, Type 96, Type 99, Bren, ZB-26 are all magazine fed.
>>30636889
Theres a nice Universal M1 Carbine for sale at my LGS for $400. Should i get it or is that one of the bad ones?
>>30639062
Quite wrong. Just off the top of my head, non-belt fed machine guns:
-DP28
-Bren
-Chauchat
-Type 99
-Type 96
-Type 92
-Type 11
-Vickers
There are definitely more, these are just the ones I can name right now.
>>30639075
those are all early LMGs or weird quasi battle rifles. also the japs were fucking retarded with machinegun designs.
there is nothing functionally different between a BAR and a M14, but that one was used as a substandard outdated light machine gun and the other was used as a substandard outdated main battle rifle.
Do I need to clean a new 20in m16 barrel after every round?
The company I bought it from said to do that for the 1st 100rds
Seems weird for a crome lined barrel
>>30639062
>>30639075
>BAR
You really consider a BAR a machine gun? I mean it had a 20 round magazine. I'd say it is as Browning labeled it an automatic rifle; but not a machine gun.
>Bren
Bren, I can see it took 100 round mags even though 20 and 30 was more common. Still its pretty far removed from a belt fed machine gun.
>Type 96, Type 99, Type 11
I forgot about those stupid Jap machine guns from WWII. Again though, we're talking 20 and 30 round magazines.
>Chauchat
Should have remembered that abomination.
Honestly automatic rifle seems more accurate for pretty much all of these WWI and WWII era LMGs.
>Vickers
That's belt fed.
Are there any modern magazine fed machine guns? Or are they a relic of the past before everyone started copying the MG-42?
>>30639200
The Vickers is not belt fed, so don't act like you know what it was.
Pic related is a Vickers.
>>30638955
Alright, since we're talking about AR-15's, if I were to put together a 5.56, what should I expect to pay total. I'd prefer to get a more-or-less complete upper assembly, but if it were more parted would it be cheaper, with shipping and all? What's a decent price range? Anything I should look out for? Any websites that are decent places to start?
>>30639200
>>30639235
>Vickers
Dude if you say Vickers, no one has that gun in mind. They have the British version of the Maxim in mind, which is very clearly belt fed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPv_f_aSyP4
>Degtyarev
>Bren
>DP28
>F1 SMG
Why were there so many top mounted magazines back in the day?
Were they designed like that so it's easier to go prone?
Or it's just for the magazines' springs delight?
>>30639200
The BAR falls into the category of an LMG.
Also, try the Madsen, the Lewis gun, RPK, L86 LSW, the M249 (if fed from STANAG magazines), and Stoner 63. And many variants of aircraft guns.
>>30639334
You couldn't think of any non-belt fed machine guns other than the DP-28, so what the fuck do you know?
>obviously nothing
>>30639393
Tell me, what do you get out of being irrationally hostile to random strangers on the internet?
Do you have ass burgers? Are you this much of a dick to people in real life? Or do you spend the day being pushed around, emasculated or otherwise made to feel like a powerless cog in the machine and you've decide that being a dick on /k/ is an acceptable means of catharsis for you to take out all your pent up aggression?
In any case you're acting like a whiney twat and I don't give a fuck about your opinion. Grow the fuck up and act with a degree of civility.
>>30636889
I'm also asking in the general, but while I'm here, what's the best way to remove the delta ring from an AR15 without a special tool and without cutting it off? Just got a free float hand guard and I'm looking to stick it on there tomorrow.
>>30639200
>Are there any modern magazine fed machine guns?
HK MG36, HK M27 IAR, L86 LSW, AUG HBAR, the INSAS LMG India uses. There's a few more I can't think of.
Are these good components for a med kit or should I just find a pre-made one somewhere else?
Noguns looking for something nice and cheap. My grandfather left a few boxes of .22 LR lying around after he died and I'm the only person who would ever possibly use them. Is it worth it?
>>30639654
You won't ever use it, so what does it matter?
What is the Absolute worst performing .308 hp/sp to use that basically acts as a FMJ? I want to use my PTR for Coyote hunting without completely fucking up the hide and body with expanding ammunition.
Cant use FMJ because state laws, so just somthing for "just in case" so I dont get fined
What's a decent price for an Arisaka in decent condition nowadays?
>>30639655
they are kinda disposable. think of it like bic lighter. it will last longer than something that cheap ought to but it will break eventually.the recivers made of zamak its completely worth what you pay and youd probably spend 3-6 times the cost of the gun on ammo before it dies a earned death.
they are made well enough that you dont fear it kbing. its quite clear when its shot out and you should stop using it
they are fun guns go for it
>>30639711
Look it up on gunbroker. That's what everyone who might reply to you is going to do.
>>30639681
its always good to have for just in-case. Will it ever be used for a shooting/combat injury? likely not, but it can be quite valuable as a generic First Aid kit.
>>30639655
They're fun guns, definitely. Best value for a .22 pistol imo.
>>30639655
>>30639721
Not that anon, but neat. I have a chance to get them for $113 brand new. Figured id grab one when I buy my other first handgun just for the hell of it. At that price I cant ignore it.
>>30639730
I figgered there was some traveling gun merchant with better prices that I should know about so I could post about my awesome steal of a last ditch on /k/. Good to know there's not
>>30639654
add a sealed Surgical scalpel or something and it looks good. or perhaps some "cheap" multitool with a very sharp knife and wire cutters? For them accidental fishhooks.
Im no medic however.
I want to buy a 1911, but I don't have a lot of cash because I come from circumstances. Are there any around the $600 area that are somewhat reliable?
>>30639856
After you put 500 rounds through it and/or lap slide to frame.
>>30639941
So it's not good until you shoot it a bunch? Also, what does lap slide to frame mean?
>>30639962
A 1911 must rattle if it is to be good for battle.
>>30639984
I don't know what that means
>>30639941
What about one of the Walther/Colt licensed ones? How are they?
>>30640000
im not a 1911 guy, but I assume he means if you shake the gun, its supposed to rattle to be of good quality.
>>30638916
It's a joke about how Kel-tec doesn't make a lot of any interesting firearm. They mainly produce their bread and butter handguns with all the neat shut getting cranked out at a snails pace.
>>30640029
22lr 1911s are shit unless its an ace if its an ace its retard expensive
>>30638036
sshhh, dont need any more competition
>>30640047
Care to elaborate? Or is it just a case of "hurrrrr, .22, look at this fag!"
>>30640000
Lapping is (as far as I understand) accelerating wear between two surfaces with the aid of an abrasive. It sounds like the RIA 1911s have some problems until the slide wears a bit. If you can save up another $100 you can buy a mil spec Springfield. I have a SA RO Champion and it's never had a single problem since I've owned it.
I finger fucked a RIA and SA when I was looking at 1911s, and I spent the extra money on the Springfield because it didn't feel nearly as chintzy as the RIA.
>>30640031
lol no he means if it rattles that the tolerances are a little looser, meaning it will function more reliably...at least in theory.
>>30638916
good luck finding any of their really cool shit anywhere in stock.
>>30640082
The Ruger 1911 is also a great first 1911. I love mine
>>30639075
>>30639062
M16, RPK, AK47, FAL, HK G3, pretty much every modern military rifle in history
i get what you are saying though, sounds like a faggot knew what you meant but was just nitpicking your semantics. yes, most heavy machine guns are crew weapons that use belts, because someone isnt firing them from the shoulder they are usually mounted on a tripod or vehicle or fixed position
Dont mind me.
>>30639962
Factory fresh RIAs have a needlessly tight slide-frame fit, sometimes to the point of faulty operation. You can make this go away by wearing the slide to the frame by a) shooting it a bunch or b) detail stripping the thing, putting lapping compound on the frame rails, and running the slide back and forth until it runs freely. The second process is lapping the slide to the frame; it does the same job of natural wear and tear, but faster.
>>30640043
Is this joke more prevalent in the US or something?
Because in my country, the only Kel-Tec shit I've seen has been nothing but interesting shit. It's not necessarily good shit, but it's interesting.
>SU-16 - a tactifudd .223 rifle that can be folded in half, with a forend that transforms into a bipod, and the stock can hold STANAG magazines inside
>KSG - double-barreled bullpup shotgun
>Sub-2000 - a folding carbine that shoots 9mm out of Glock magazines
Hell, the RFB is probably the most boring when compared to the above examples, but I still want it because I happen to be looking for a bullpup, as well as a .308 hunting rifle.
>>30636889
Anyone know anything about blackheart international? Bought a hungarian underfolder ak-47 from them from a LGS for 620$ a few months back.
>Get it home
>Front sight post is broken
>scratch on the inside of the barrel
>took it to the range, have to ram casings out of the chamber every 2 or 3 rounds
>turns out the chamber was extremely gunked up by something
>several polishings with nail-polish remover and it still gets at least 1 FTE per mag
Haven't been able to shoot lately due to finances, is still probably gunked up a bit and will FTE when i take it to the range.
I ask if anyone has any info/experience with them because my main worry is if the metal work is shit or some other problem i can't see and the gun ends up being a potato.
It's a hungarian parts kit, with the reciever and barrel being make by blackheart.
>>30640248
Sounds like a potato.
I'm dumb as fuck but I can still put together an AK parts kit that works.
>>30639856
Just get a tokarev. You'll save a fuck-ton of money, and your penis will grow at least a couple of inches knowing your caliber cucks all other handguns.
>>30640277
>tokarev
What's that?
>>30640290
Russian 1911 clone in 7.62x25.
>>30640062
they suck cause the slides are large
22lr can only push back a certain amount of mass and still run reliably.
on good 22lrs like mkiii or buckmarks this bolt or slide is small and made of steel. the recoil springs are strong. everything is tailored to being a 22lr.
with replicas the slides have to be large to get the look right. this results in them being made of lightweight materials in best case aluminum in worse case some even worse alloy. this leads to slides cracking. you see this in almost all lookalikes since the mass is on the high side of 22lr weight limit the guns tend to be undersprung so they work. some only work with high velocity ammo. since the recoil spring is weak the guns beat the shit out of themselves. they will jam up when dirty way faster than a proper 22 pistol. for example a mkiii will scoff at 1k without cleaning of the shittiest bulk ammo a gsg 1911 will start slowing down around 500 and probably become a jammomatic by the time you hit 1k
>>30640290
A handgun for those who aren't afraid to damage their pedicure when putting down enemies of the state.
>>30640303
>>30640311
Oh, well I would prefer a 1911, even if it might cost a bit more.
Why do hunters wear orange over camo
doesn't that defeat the purpose
>>30636889
Where can i get parts for my ruger sr9?
ruger is being a dick and doesnt want to send me the striker on it unless "its shipped out to a licensed dealer "
Fucking ruger
>>30640330
Deer are color-blind. The orange is to make sure cletus doesn't get trigger happy and blow your head off.
>>30640330
Durrs are colorblind. That's why pic related is a thing.
Also laws.
>>30640330
Deer do not see colors that well, but the camo still breaks up their image. The orange is so that other hunters may easily identify them.
>>30640368
Can I hunt deer while wearing bright orange coveralls?
>>30640308
Shit.
Well, thanks for a good detailed response at least.
Im just a nogunz about to become a YESfunz, and wanted to start small. Any 9mm cheapo 1911s that are recommended? Keep in mind, ive NEVER fired anything other than airshit and BB guns, so recoil is my big fear, especially since I am pretty weak....dont want to get some shit that will break my wrist the first time I fire it. And the 1911 style is just unbeatable in my opinion. One good thing is it isnt my money, but the bad side of that is I am limited in funds. No $500+ handfuns here sadly.
>>30640330
much of what this guy said
>>30640368
Some animals perceive colours differently so for deer, they can still hide in bright pink or orange patterns.
But for somthing like bow hunting a turkey, you need a full on ghillisuit
>>30640368
>>30640391
Sometimes I wonder if that helps at all.
I've heard about some guy who got shot by a hunter because he was mistaken for a deer.
The guy, who was shot in the leg, wasn't even hunting. He was actually quadding. He was wearing obnoxiously-colored Fox Racing gear, and his ATV was colored very bright and unnatural.
A hunter somehow mistook a brightly-colored human on a brightly-colored vehicle for a dull-colored deer.
>>30636889
Nogunz here, Been thinking about getting one of the Mossberg shotguns for home defense, is the plastic trigger group something I should worry about?
Also one of the youtube videos said the Maverick 88 and the 500 are mostly the same gun despite safety placement, is that ture? The $100 price gap seems odd if that's the case.
>>30640442
More like the hunter was 15 keystones in and mistook the world going wavy for a deer.
>>30640442
Most likely this
>>30640455
Even if you are in camo creeping around, i don't see how you can be mistaken for a deer unless the person who shot you is just a trigger-happy moron that doesn't even bother to look before he shoots at everything that moves.
Can you shoot 38 acp in a 38 super pistol?
>>30636889
No experience with pre-2006 but I'd say as another anon said that they are probably better. I did however buy a new manufactured Model 60, and it works great. Accurate, reliability is great. I've never seen any huge problems with the Marlin rimfires, the 795's my friends had/have weren't perfect but they were worth the money so far as I could tell. Another friend had one of their bolt action .22's and never had trouble with it.
Let's say I have a "pistol". If I use a barrel extension to bring it to a 16" barrel length, and add a stock to bring it to 26" overall, I can swap back and forth between the two modes of rifle and pistol. Right? As long as I don't leave it in the intermediary step which gets dogs shot?
>>30640975
maybe. google the Beretta Neos carbine
>>30640678
I'd say yeah, it probably won't cycle well/at all.
Does anyone still make .38 acp?
>>30640975
should be fine as long as your barrel extension is permanent. if you were just screwing on a 16 inch tube to the old barrel it would be illegal
>>30641133
Pinning works, right?
Thinking of getting pic related, but I'm wondering if there are other options for around the same price range?
I'm not looking for a full on tacticool plate carrier, just something to hold my AR mags and a few other odds and ends.
>>30641133
Also, pic related.
>>30640452
From what I understand. they are both essentially the same gun but i think the Maverick is just a re-brand to knock down the price a bit. I might be wrong though so do some research. Mossberg used to have another re-brand that they sold in department stores in the 70s and 80s that was slightly cheaper simply because it didn't have the Mossberg name.
>>30641198
kinda bulky for what it is. what do you need to carry exactly?
>>30641295
the receiver has no slot for the safety and no holes drilled and tapped in the top rail.then youve got the simplified forend assembly where its all one thing instead of just swapping the forend
Could someone post the century skeleton man for me?
I was dicking around in my local big box store the other day, and saw they had a PS90, I've really been considering splurging on it but can't decide if I should or not. I've always been interested in bullpups and want a project gun (would eventually sbr it). Thoughts?
when applying for a firearms id are there any requirements for the 2 references you need such as age?
Anon wanting the Marlins. from the last thread here. I tried to buy it yesterday, but I was denied because my current address doesn't match the address on my license (just moved here). I was thinking about going to a different location, and just not mentioning that I lived here at all, and that I was visiting from. out of state. Would they still deny me, or would the two store have communicated, causing them to recognize me?
>>30638916
>>30640043
>>30640089
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
>>30642783
It depends on the place really. I had an out of state license at a gander mountain and the guy wouldn't let me buy anything. Went to a different store and they had no problems.
>>30640204
>Su-16
Has been in production for a long time now and demand for them is pretty low. Not. Surprised you see them
>Ksg
It's not double barreled. It just feeds from two separate tubes. For the longest time you couldn't even look at them. I see them now for $750 consistently, but when they first came out the gun shop by me was placed on a 9 month back order till they could get a few in. Of which they were already sold
>Sub-2k
I've seen these a lot in the past. Recently though I haven't seen them in while. I think they're in the top 5 semi auto rifles sold on gun broker right now. I did finally get to shoot one, it was actually a shitty experience desu. The .40 kicked more than a super lightweight ar-15 with no muzzle break. Sort of surprised.
Anyhow, their pmr-30 until about a year ago was untouchable below msrp. I haven't seen a single cmr-30 yet. I've only seen one keltec rfb. I don't know if the rdb is out right now.
Aside from the 10/22, what are the easiest .22LR weapons to work on, maintain, replace parts and all that for someone with 2 left hands ?
>>30638593
they are not legal to own and will be confiscated by the atf if discovered, don't buy one.
>>30638690
seems to be too old for a manual, check over at www.marlinowners.com, they're pretty good at fixing them.
>>30639174
new barrels have microscopic pores that open up with heat, they recommend cleaning after every shot so those pores get filled with copper rather than powder residue. it doesn't make a huge difference, i only do it for my .50 cal.
>>30639249
$500-$600 at the low end, check out palmetto state armory
>>30639514
discourages those that don't belong here and keeps stupid people quiet
>>30639654
pre-made ones are pretty universally bad
>>30639805
there probably are, but they are local to you. any great deals available online you'd have already heard of.
>>30640408
deer will notice the reflectors
>>30640452
no, yes
>>30640678
same size, lower power, should work kinda
>>30641198
all the non airsoft stuff is going to cost more unless you go with a surplus rig
Is a .308 win sufficiently lethal to get rid of foxes?
Thinking of raising chickens again
>>30640408
People might think you escaped from a prison.
>>30643621
>.308
pretty much anything in north america
>>30643702
Even grizzly bears?
>>30642931
When I want to the first store, they didn't have any problems with the WA license, until I mentioned that I lived in state. I guess what I'm wondering is if it's against the law or anything to buy a gun in another state, causing them to stop me.
>>30641313
Reckon 6 mags, maybe a water bottle and snack and flashlight.
>>30643617
Where could I look for surplus rigs?
How do you go innawoods? I always wanted to try a sort of primitive survival thing, but I can't find a place that will let me do that, only day-camping and that sort of thing.
I'm starting to get into recurve bows, and I'm seeing two different models.
One is the Samick Sage, and the other is the Fleetwood Sage.
Are these the same bow marketed under two different brands, or are they actually different bows that coincidentally have the same model name?
I can't tell them apart visually, but that's only because all recurve bows look the same to me.
>>30645374
where do you live?
if west coast, drive up into the cascades and hide out until you're sick of the wilderness
if east coast, kys
>>30639708
Sierra Matchking, or really any HPBT match ammo. The hollow point tiny and is intended to change the bullet's balance and aerodynamic properties. Doesn't expand much and isn't recommended for deer, but should work well for coyotes.
You can also get .308 V-max frangibles, that may or may not leave the hide intact the same way a 5.56 V-max would.
>>30644447
With either 200gr handloads and careful shot placement, or a 20rd mag, yes.
>>30646174
I live in Canada, so that's a no.
>5 rounds only
Guess I'm buying me a .45-70 gubmint
>>30646196
Yeah, .308 is possible, but not optimal, especially if you can't magdump.
You syrup-niggers have any access to Martini-Henrys? Always thought those would make a cool bear gun.
Question about 41F:
You need picture/fingerprints of all responsible people in a trust when building/transferring NFA items. BUT if you add a new responsible person to the trust they do not have to submit biometrics for items already possessed by the trust.
So if you're the more private sort of person you can get a trust you trust to buy the things, then join up afterwards for NFA-fun as if 41F never happened.
Correct/Wrong?
2nd choice for 5.56 plinking when Wolf Gold is sold out or not available?
>>30646350
>not one but two fish guns
if those aren't airshit I'm p jelly
>>30646470
>two fish guns
>not seeing all 5
I've been trying to find this one rifle...
It was a prototype that some guy developed around the turn of the 20th century as a trial weapon for a military (pretty sure it was US).
It was semi auto, had a tube fed magazine, and a semi exposed action, piston powered. It was too heavy to use and never got much attention. It was almost all metal and kind of funky looking.
Obviously not very known because I've been looking on Google for about 2 hours trying to find it.
Thanks
>>30646496
The johnson rifle. From what i remember, the muhreen corpse used a small number of them.
>>30645925
Thanks anon.
what about that russian bi-metal jacket stuff? think that will perform poorly enough for my needs?
I might like to SBR a full size UZI.
what would be easier in the long run? Getting an uzi "Rifle" and replacing the barrel, or an UZI "Pistol" and adding on the stock after?
>>30646677
No, it's older and less well known than the Johnson.
Thanks for trying though
>>30646681
If it has a soft point, no. Small hollow point, yes. At least as well as .308 can be expected to preserve the hide on something that small. You could try soft point subsonic rounds, but they might not cycle your PTR, and they cost a bit more than Wolf.
>>30645267
Surplus rigs get snapped up pretty quickly, keep an eye on sportsman guide, cheaper than dirt, colemans. And chinese ones are all over the place
>>30639654
Roll gauze and elastic bandages are an essential part of a shooters med kit.
Bought an unconverted saiga 20ga for 400 bucks. Did i make out good?
>>30646725
uzi rifle, get shorter barrel for when no one is around. fuck the cuckstamp, don't participate in the NFA like a faggot.
>>30647381
and how does one switch the barrel? can it be done safely with few tools?
I thought about posting this question on other boards like /tv/ or /tg/ but I feel like it'd be best suited for /k/ since it's a question about war.
And that question is who would win between The Galactic Empire and The Imperium of Man?
>>30636889
a guy at a gunshow is asking for a nylon 66 for $325, what would be a good bargaining price to suggest as a counter-offer?
>>30647525
Everything in 40k is absurdly OP for cool points.
Of course, it would probably be the Orks and the Nids that actually strike the killing blow.
>>30647297
Right on, thanks!
>>30647572
>Everything in 40k is absurdly OP for cool points.
Gonna play doubles advocate here. SW is kind of the same way. IIRC correctly the energy output from turbo lasers were equivalent to nukes. Also SW seems to have more reliable tech with regards to ships, hyperspace, shields and weaponry.
I will say that the Imperium would probably stomp the Empire in a ground engagement. 40k's small arms and sheer number of guardsmen definitely outclasses the Empire's. Plus the Imperium has Exterminatus up their sleeve. Assuming battle barges don't destroyed by Star Destroyers.
What's a good way to find old run down places for STALKER autism? I haven't had any luck looking around myself
I'd really like a Colt 4 x 20 but I'm a poorfag. Is there any brand that makes anything similar? Or any knockoffs?
>>30645669
I'm in MN, but I'm right there in that shit hole of cities, no where rural.
I finally bought that Marlin, and I'm fucking pumped. Thanks a lot /k/, you rid another faggot of his nogunz today.
>>30648887
You're welcome OP
>>30646470
It's a conference room at H&K.
>>30640325
Achewood!
>>30636889
Anything pre-2006, and post 2014 should be fine.
Going to the Tanner Gun Show in Denver tomorrow. Any CO /k/omrades know about any good deals there? Looking to maybe haggle some merchant down and get an AR-15 upper for under 100 bucks.
How much should I expect to pay for a NIB Mini-14 Tactical?
I asked this in the last qtddtot but I dodn't get an answer...
I'm having problems with my ruger 10/22, the factory magazine sticks into the magwell when I push them in as you would normally, but if i turn the rifle upside down, rest the mag on the well and use the mag release lever to drop it in place then its fine. Any idea what's happening?
>>30640442
Some guys are a menace, they'll shoot at noise. I had some neighbors sons, lol, one was law enforcement and the other was a jackass, hearing them yelling at each other when they got back from deerhunting, i can't even.
>>30646496
https://www.google.com/search?q=spiw
Farquhar-Hill Rifle
The Huot Machine Rifle
you sure it was tube fed?
I live next to the ocean. I left my windows open for three days and found rust on my gun. What's a good watertight gun safe?
>>30650754
Rather than moisture prevention, aim for moisture removal.
There are countless dehumidifying methods available. Any time you open that safe door, you're letting moisture in. It's inevitable.
>>30650754
oil
I want a bolt-action .308 rifle for hunting purposes.
I'm also kind of a cheapskate. I will generally buy the lowest priced thing possible, unless you can manage to convince me that the more expensive option is better.
Which is why bolt-action .308s are a debate for me.
I could get a Remington or Savage for next to nothing. If I wanted to go even cheaper, I could buy a surplus Mauser. What incentive is there in buying something higher end, like Sako?
>>30646496
?
>>30650827
just buy a howa 1500, they are more accurate than a r700 and many come with glass, a bipod, and a ten round mag out the door for like 600 dollarydoos
>>30650827
Surplus Mausers are difficult to scope without terrible bubba mods.
>>30647422
Uzi barrels can be replaced without tools. Watch a video if taking down an uzi on youtube.
random question but Why the fuck am I seeing faded out posts? Seriously are they supposed to be deleted or something?
A local is trying to sell me his Hakim. Is there anything specific I should look for before buying it?
>>30637077
RFB is alright, at 1.5 MOA or worse, I want more out of a .308, though.
nothing wrong with a bullpup for hunting except for the inherent problems of not being ambi-friendly (for RFB this is not a problem because of forward ejection) if you have to shoot form a weird angle and not (generally) having adjustable length of pull to account for heavy layering of clothing.
Bullpup platforms have some other inherent issues, but those are generally not a problem for hunting.
>>30651073
No they're not. When they were common and cheap it was damn near a home handicraft industry.
I'm considering getting a vz61 because theyre fucking cool. Should i get one in .32 or 9x18 makarov?
Does anyone know a good DIY or a good product online for "stab-proof" vests? I live in nigger-central and I deal with aggressive people on a weekly basis.
>>30652688
http://www.bulletproofme.com/ProMAX-Concealable-Stab-Resistant.shtml
Can someone identify this revolver, or provide some higher res screens?
How many millimeters of steel can modern .50 BMG penetrate? WW2-era could penetrate up to 28 mm, but surely 70 years allowed for some improvement right?
>>30636889
Is this a good deal? WASR 10/63 in decent condition.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Item/570032116
>>30653876
Kind of a silly question. There are many different types of .50 BMG ammunition that do different things. If you mean modern API, something around 32mm of steel equivalent penetration.
Question I own a SKS and I want to put a muzzle brake on it was wondering what's the best muzzle break I can get?
What's the name of that Russian scope that has like two sight pictures?
When you look into the scope, it's separated into 2. 2/3 of it is like an x1 or x2 zoom for quick target acquisition, and the rest 1/3 is an x4 zoom so you can shoot more accurately.
>>30636889
In the event of WW3, how far away from major population centers would be safe?
Is 50km away from a Eurasian ICBM detonation far enough?
>>30652589
9x18 is better but harder to come by. so if you buy ammo online mak, in stores .32
>>30653850
U-94 Udar
>>30653885
yeah they are running around $600
>>30654909
they are all kind of crappy unless you get the muzzle threaded
Does anyone here own an IWI Jericho 941 or have any experience with one?
I'm leaning toward polymer full size 9mm, I've watched videos and read countless reviews... but I'd rather hear it from you guys.
>>30655220
Only reason to buy a Jericho was aesthetics - but the Jews ruined that too
>>30655220
I'd like to hear some as well. I need a 9 to add to the collection and I really like the lines of the steel frames Jericho
>>30655235
Right now I have a few rifles and a Tokarev for a pistol.. I am considering a few different 9mm's.
Jericho
SD9VE
92fs
SP2022
I've narrowed it down to these options, anybody care to say which they believe is best and why?
>>30655220
i have a full size all steel beagle
>>30655393
Is it the bee's knees?
>>30655393
Is it the cats meow?
>>30655393
Do you feel like a space cowboy?
Does AR-15 wood furniture fit on AR-10s without modification? if not, are there anyone who makes wood furniture like pic related for AR-10s?
>>30650516
Bumping this
>>30636889
>QTDDTOT
what the hell does that stand for?
>>30656384
Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
>>30636889
Practicality aside, why shouldn't I paint my AK a bright color like this?
>>30656411
Because it's fucking retarded
>>30656411
I think that might be illegal, making it look like a toy and all. Not sure tho i'll look it up.
>>30650901
Goddamn that's literally everything I want in a non-milsurp bolt gun.
I went skeet/trap shooting and loved it. Now I want to get my own gun but have no idea what to get.
Any recommendations?
I think I want an over/under but heard that the Benelli nova is a good starting shotty too.
>>30656730
Something like an 870 or a mossy 500 can be used to do pretty much everything, hunting, HD, skeet. They're pretty cheap too, try looking into that.
>>30656730
Over/Under tends to be more expensive than pump actions with tube mags, oddly enough. I suppose it's because they're mostly used for sports by rich people at this point. A Remington 870 Wingmaster (NOT the 870 Express, the quality is crap) or Mossberg 500/590A1, or an M1897 clone (there are some cheap Norinco ones if you're in canada) is the way to go for pump action.
>>30656926
i meant to post this here
>>30656824
Bragging rights for having the most expensive shotgun are highly sought after by some of the douchiest shooters.
It is more work to produce an o/u vs your typical pump, though. More machining, and possibly even hand fitting. Not just throwing together a box of stamped and injection molded parts.
How do you guys find places to go STALKER? I'm really interested in trying a few of the challenges, but I live in MN, right by Minneapolis. Is there anywhere in the area I can go to with forests and abandoned buildings?
>>30657816
The seedier parts of St. Paul off of I-94 are perfect STALKER territory. Find an abandoned factory near some woods and go nuts.
>>30657259
>Bragging rights for having the most expensive shotgun are highly sought after by some of the douchiest shooters.
This explains Holland & Holland's entire business model.
>>30657826
Thanks man, that's a pretty good idea. I'm new to the area, so could you point out a few places along the highway that would be a good spot?
>>30658153
I only know as much as I do because I made the mistake of trying to find a hotel there on short notice after driving up from Chicago. White Bear Avenue was hoodtastic so maybe that.
>>30656619
exactly, and it is a fucking tack driver too
I began the process of saving up for a Steyr Scout.
Should I go for the 7.62 NATO or .376 Steyr chambering?
I think proprietary rounds are cool, but a .308 round means it and my AR308 can use the same ammo. Ammo might also be cheaper.
Are those polymer coated bullets worth a shit? Or is it just another gimmick...
>>30659582
.308/RFN is way cheaper than proprietary rounds and a gun you can't feed is just an expensive dildo.
>>30659582
I didn't know about that caliber, pretty cool but unless you're hunting game in africa, I think it's overkill, I'd go for 308.
How would .30 Carbine rate for bear defense? My M1 seems ideal for hiking protection but I'd like to know how the cartridge would handle a bear
>>30661231
Magdump and try to hit the head. Too weak to hunt bear with, but probably fine if you hit it a couple times.
>>30639111
They aren't bad. Later models used a different recoil spring.assembly than the G.I. models though.
Not really a problem, just something to be aware of.
>>30656619
Yeah, I have the Howa 1500 Hogue in 30-06 and it's great. I've used Rem 700's and the Howa IMHO has smoother bolt action and a crisper trigger. 308 should be just as good, has an 'easier' shorter bolt pull length, and you can star wearing 'Real Fuckin NATO' t-shirts. Only thing I would do is replace the rail on top with traditional scope rings. The rail makes the scope sit a little too high for where my cheek naturally meets the stock. Nice thing is they use the Rem scope ring screw pattern, so any LGS should have them.
>>30659137
Yes, yes it is.
>>30662122
Mine needs new screws since they told me the thing was sighted in factory so i threw it on my four wheeler and went up to a backwoods range in bumfuck northern Idaho and shot it and once i found the sweet spot, i was consistantly hitting the smaller plates they had at 400 yards. long story short, sight in your guns and make sure the screws are all tight or they will fall apart
>>30662230
>>30662122
the scope rings that is
>>30661231
.30 carbine has a great penetration in 150 yards.
But you gotta be fast. Bears charge realy fast.
>>30661231
Fine for black. Magdump, pray, and run away while reloading for grizzly.
Complete fuckin' amateur to optics here.
Is there something like an introductory guide to optics that's easy for ignoramuses to understand?
What does it exactly mean to "zero" a scope?
My local Cabela's offers free zeroing services. How would that exactly work? I would think something like that would depend on how your own eyes work.
>>30662289
>Magdump, pray, and run away while reloading for grizzly.
Aha, yup
>>30662316
>What does it exactly mean to "zero" a scope?
It means that the center of the reticle is where the bullet actually goes when you pull the trigger. This requires adjusting the scope, usually.
>>30662316
Zeroing a scope means adjusting the cross hairs to the point of impact.
>have a 1 moa scope
>shoot at a target 100 yards away 5 times
>your group was about an inch away from the bullseye
>adjust it one click
Don't use a bore laser because bullets drop
Are there some lesser known/cheaper semi auto 7.62 x 39 rifles? .308? 5.56?
Really just curious about cheaper alternatives to ak/m14/ar.
Right now I'm leaning toward an SKS, but I'm more interested in things I may be overlooking.
>>30648189
try scanning google maps on satellite view in your area, look for damaged roofs
>>30656959
i guess that deserved it's own thread
>>30663080
8mm hakim might be around $500
30.06 Remington 740 Woodsmasters are pretty cheap $200-$300, only 4 round mags though
is there a specific term for when a muzzle loading weapon with a powder pan and frizzen is filled and closed? The gun doesn't necessarily need to be loaded, just looking for a term when powder is occupying the pan. Is there even one?
>>30662230
Yeah, as a general rule you should always bench strip, clean and reassemble any newly acquired pew pew fun time freedom machines. Doing this has definitely helped me be generally more awesome in life at all levels.
>be me a few months ago on a pig hunting trip with a couple old school homie g's from college in the Heartlaaaaaaand of Caaalifornia... Staaaaater Broooooothers
>inb4 Cuckifornia fag get out, I already know it suc/k/s
>buddy has Rem 870 Wingmaster, I have poorfag 870 Express
>say 'Nice Wingmaster, broheim'
>he says 'Yeah, got it real cheap from a buddy but the damn thing jams all the time'
>lemme take a gander...
>proceed to bench strip the scatter gun in his garage, loading gate was slightly skewed to one side
>bend it back into position with my thumb, clean all parts and reassemble the boom stick
>load up the magazine and rack it a few times, cleanly throws shells in a beautiful rainbow of lead, copper and plastic
>says 'It's definitely never done that before, how'd you do that?!?'
>mfw
What difference is there between a Browning BAR Mark II and a ShortTrac?
There's a site that's selling magazines for both of these rifles. As far as I can tell, they look the same & hold the same calibers, but there's a $2 difference between the magazines (the Mark II's magazines being the cheaper of the two).
Someone a little more mechanically inclined than me, here's the green text:
>be me
>tightening down the barrel nut
>do everything like I'm supposed to
>getting out the torque wrench
>hole for gas tube is already practically aligned
>tighten it a little
>it's more than hand tight
>spec says torque 30-80 lbs
>torque wrench only goes to down to 40
I-is it safe? D-do I need barrel shims, senpai? Barrel nut is an Aero BAR btw
>>30663184
Nice. Also made me stumble upon the MAS 49, which is a little pricier, but pretty fuckin cool.
>>30663502
If it says it should be 30-80, and you've done 40, then I don't see what's wrong here.
I'll say this now, but don't ever try to make your wrench go past 40 if that's its maximum.
For rifles & pistols, what is the smallest caliber you'd be willing to reload? At what point does ammunition become so cheap that it's hardly worth reloading? Where do you personally draw the line?
>>30663619
No, my wrench only goes down to 40 lbs. It's less than that. The gas tube hole is aligned. Pic related is the nut. If I go any tighter, I would have to go a full 1/4 rotation, but I'm thinking that would be way too tight.
It's already more than hand tight, it's just not more than 40 lbs (the bottom setting on my torque wrench). Again, the spec is 30-80, so it could still be within spec. I'm going to call the manufacturer tomorrow to see if they'll send me some free shims.
Has anyone ever made a smooth bore breach loaded black powder cannon?
Does anyone know where I can purchase or order a functioning full size black powder cannons made in stainless steel?
>>30663080
Keltec su-16 (which are a fuck you to the atf so I want one lel and wouldn't be affected by any assault weapons bans)
Kel tecs bullpups 2.23/.308 rifles
Ptr 91
AR-10s
Unfortunately the vast majority of x39 guns are AKs
Are pistol caliber carbines considered pistols or long guns in the US?
>>30663188
primed
>>30663188
It' would be either "prime" or "make ready" if you mean like what commands a Sergent would issue to a platoon in combat.
>>30663546
there are also vz52s, ammo is rare as hell in their original chambering though, i only have 5 or 6 boxes.
>>30664345
long guns
>>30664345
If it has an overall length of at least 26 inches and a barrel length of at least 16 inches it's a rifle. A pistol is a firearm that can be fired with one hand and doesn't have a stock in us firearms law. Caliber doesn't matter unless it's greater than .50 cal and doesn't have a smooth bore, then it's a destructive device, if it doesn't have a "sporting purpose".
Tl:dr caliber doesn't come into play when it comes to rifles so pccs are rifles
>>30664349
>>30664367
Thanks mates. I was just wondering what it would mean for a single muzzle loader to have powder in the pan, not a technical military term, but thanks for the extra knowledge.
>>30663938
So you torqued it to 40 and everything lines up (including top rail on handguard)? No need for shims, you're in spec and good to go.
>>30636889
Do I need a tax stamp for each configuration I want to change my rifle to?
In other words, if I want a full auto sbr with a supressor, dp I need 3 stamps or does one stamp cover everything?
between a jericho 941 and a cz75b, how similar in feeling and firing are they?
pic unrelated
>>30664394
>ammo is rare as hell
That's what deters me from half the guns I actually want.
>>30664579
that's why they are priced affordably in the first place, if there get to be too many you need consider reloading. or scrounge and never shoot like me.
Why do some WW2 aircraft carriers do not have a command tower? Why do modern aircraft carriers have way less AA than they used to have?
>>30664345
Question for my Aussie mates, anyone use .22wmr on foxes? Just got given shitloads of hollow points and not sure what to use them on
>>30664715
Modern carriers have their AA mounted on Aegis cruisers and jets.
