How when Turkish civilians don't have AT weapons?
>>30635657
All the AT weapons were sent to pro-democracy head-choppers in Syria.
>>30635657
Maybe theyre locked?
>>30635657
Because the soldiers aren't willing to shoot unarmed civilians.
Yet.
>>30635915
Not been watching the feeds m8?
They are
>>30635952
Some clearly aren't or all of those people would be dead.
>>30635657
https://twitter.com/jtuohey21/status/754099999118594049
"crowd coaxes soldiers out of tanks in Turkey"
>>30636123
Dude literally got ran over by an APC.
Serves the fuck right for standing against the secular coup.
Anti-gunners btfo
Once the tank crew sees the civilians are unarmed, he will peacefully leave the tank and surrender
>>30636375
In sha Allah the criminal soldiers and their officers will hang
Nice Leopard 1.
>>30636494
oh look it's the attention whore again
>>30635657
>what happened to crew unclear
Theyre buttoned up
>>30635657
Molotov's. Turns tank into an oven
>>30637409
no, they dont. Molotovs are effective on tanks when the fire is near the intake. Its starves the engine of oxygen and it dies.
>>30637409
Molotovs haven't been effective against tanks since 1940.
>>30636494
It's only just begun, the orthodox will unite christendom and the Muslims will be pushed to extinction.
Ave Maria.
Deus Vult.
>>30636448
If you get a mission kill on a tank, the tank wins.
>>30636539
Probably this. Playing cards, chatting, and relaxing while the protestors band their fists on the metal. They'll just wait until everyone gets tired and goes home.
Bullet points
>Turkey is a secular state (on paper)
>Edrogan is a muslim, and is slowly creeping sharia law into place, has imprisoned or "disappeared" at least 1000 people
>Christian, Jew, and Atheist members of the military attempted to overthrow him in order to maintain a secular democracy
>largely Muslim subhuman population chimps out
>military coup defeated apparently due to overwhelming numbers of muslim "loyalists" and the military's hesitation to fire on them because they wanted a largely peaceful coup(details sketchy)
>>30637807
>>military coup defeated apparently due to overwhelming numbers of muslim "loyalists" and the military's hesitation to fire on them because they wanted a largely peaceful coup(details sketchy)
It's still going on.
>>30635657
>"the government has tanks and drones!"
;^)
>>30637807
Both sides are reporting victories, which it typical for these types of things. When one side goes entirely silent if when you know who won/lost.
As of right now there is a curfew and martial law in effect so all those who are pro-military are staying inside and obeying. Only the Pro-Erdogan people are outside right now, and the military is becoming less tolerant of them.
After some groups attacked and beat soldiers there have been shootings, arrests, and pushing people away with armor (Some photos showing people jumping off an overpass to avoid being run over by an APC).
This is nowhere near over right now and it will only pick up more in the morning when more people come out.
>>30637807
that was one of the most fucked things ive watched.
what are the chances of this becoming a full blown arab spring style civil war
>>30637906
The question is how far will conflicts between the soldiers and Erdogan supporters will escalate. Could the Turks have a civil war on their hands? Erdogan clearly has the support of the majority of the population.
>>30637807
Far from defeated my friend. That's just the controlled Western media feigning being pro-Democratic.
They want Erdogone as much as anyone else but the Islamic roaches that infest the hills and assholes of deep Anatolia.
>>30635657
Talk no Jutsu is the ultimate AT weapon.
Source: Russia, 1991.
>>30637807
Nothing is over yet. What we know: the coup is progressing in Ankara, the city seems to have fallen to pro-coup, in Istanbul the coup has pretty much failed.
>>30638039
>majority of the population
I meant a large segment of the population, possibly enough to turn this into a real conflict.
>>30638012
"theyre not all bad." but none of them are good.
>>30637807
>>30638012
Dude...
>>30637807
Remove kebab 2.0?
>>30638039
Of course it could. Hopefully it will not.
It depends how much the military can get locked down and how foreign nations/ groups will react.
The military was doing fairly well allowing people to voice their opinions until they started assaulting soldiers.
>>30637807
Not quite, Erdogan has had the air force on his side all the time and the coup seems to have been entirely coming from a section of the army, mostly connected with the armored corps of turkey's military, but ultimately led by some Imam guy who runs a pro-US islamist sect.
I literally suspect that someone spilled coffee on the "turkish coup" panel inside the CIA; you basically have US supporting kinda islamist erdogan vs. US supporting armyled by an Imam whose connected to some particular sub sect that erdogan's been purging, neither much better than the other or really about to do anything important to change international relations.
>>30638057
Except for all the Muslims that are doing good in the world, or existing like the rest of us
Don't be a faggot, anon.
>Chaos from Iraq creates mess in Syria.
>Coup Attempted and possible civil war sparks in Turkey.
Is chaos a meme? Is it spreading geographically?
Are the Balkans next?!
>>30638250
The Balkans were always next. It was that or Israe-Lebanon again.
I can't seem to get a real answer. Can anyone explain this coup attempt
>>30636494
>>30637741
Your Skye faieries aren't real. The Earth is 4.5 billion years old. Evolution explains all life as we know it. "Holy" books aren't history. Jesus was just a man telling everyone to be nice to each other. Mohammed was just a pedophile conning suckers into making him powerful. Get over it.
The only good reason for war is to liberate your family and friends from tyranny. Stop advocating the death of human beings because of your imaginary friend.
>>30637807
Wait, AW shit, this whole time I assumed the insurrectionists were the bad guys, I forgot about mad old erdogan. Wish them luck. Hope the stupid civilians don't get themselves killed and make the coup look bad to retards everywhere. They should obey the curfew...
>>30637807
erdogan loyalists dont count
shoot em all, you're saving the future generations from worshipping a child molester
>>30638355
No one fucking knows. Usual game plan for Turkish coup is the heavily secularised military stages a coup to topple a dictator who is subverting the ideals of a secular and liberal Turkey. However, there might be another Islamist faction that does not have major support trying to topple Erdogan, which would explain the lack of support and overall cohesion as well as loyalist and rebel soldiers fighting.
>>30637409
No, no it doesn't..
>people think it's over because western media or erdogan propaganda says so
You guys do realize that if Erdogan wins this, he will use it as an excuse to imprison all political enemies, whether they were involved or not. That means many high level enemies are going to mobilize because they know their survival is at stake.
It has only just begun. It's Syria II: NATO boogaloo lads.
>>30638134
But the White House has issued statements in support of Erdogan?
>>30635915
Those guys gunned down by the chopper beg to differ.
>>30637807
>Christian, Jew, and Atheist members of the military attempted to overthrow
well, i guess they're going to fail then
>>30638161
>Except for all the Muslims that are doing good in the world
where?
>>30638506
No, they just say that they "support the democratically elected government". They never explicitly say that they support Erdogan.
If Erdogan wins or the military seizes power and forms an indefinite military dictatorship, then they could just you could take the statement at face value. If the military hands power back to the people through legitimate elections (which they have always done), the US could still claim they supported the winner.
>>30638506
Yeah, Kerry pulled the "America Supports Democracy" card, which apparently includes anyone who's so much as worn a shirt with the word "Democracy" on it at some point in the last twenty years.
>>30638575
I don't think I've ever seen a shirt with the word "Democracy" on it
looks like the coup is lost lads
secularism would have been a good thing for Turkey. who knows, maybe they'd even stop trying to genocide the kurds
>>30638372
Islam believes the world was older than Christianity states. Way older. So that argument does work against them
>>30638672
Men will belive other men for being 'smarter' than them, even though they haven't seen or tried the things out themselves, but believing in GOD? Oh no, that's just stupid.
how are the police arresting soldiers?
you'd think the soldiers would outclass them by far
>>30638716
Technically, they're traitors, and have no rank.
>>30638716
Apparently some cops tried to attack the SF hq and got completely shrekt. pic related.
Also they could have gotten swarmed while cut off from contact from their own guys.
>>30638774
sorry, I meant to imply that they'd outclass them in terms of armament, and thus be able to overpower the police
>>30638661
There's reports that the coup has gained control of Ankara and are steadily securing Istanbul. Plus pro-coup F-16s are in the air.
>>30638783
They're hesitant to fire on their fellow countrymen. Not just because they're not crazy, but because they know the moment they start doing that, they lose.
>>30638796
they also lose if they surrender.
just think, they'll probably be executed as traitors to their country. They have nothing to lose at this point
>>30638661
Absolutely no confirmation of this yet. Both sides are claiming they are winning and new sources are mostly taking Erdogan's side and saying the coup has been stopped; where as live images and reports from those in Turkey are still showing fighting and seizures by the secularist military elements. This is not over yet and may have possibly only begun.
>>30638778
What the fuck did they think the outcome would be?
>>30638792
there are definitely loyalist F-16s in the air as well, one shot down the coup helicopter that was lighting everything up
>>30638808
They could have been given orders to pull back and consolidate, the conflicting reports of the coup being defeated despite rebel strongholds being intact and movements around Istanbul. As I said, cut off and jumped in close quarters.
>>30638792
Source?
what could this possibly mean for anyone living in the us?
sounds like a good time to get out of turkey if your there
>>30638796
Same thing would happen in america too. The military isn't about to gun down their country men because Obama or their general told them too. They'll fight the cops/counter forces but civilians is a bit much except for the most ideologically motivated troops
loyalist forces have regained control of Ataturk airport, Erdogan is there
At this point the coup needs to win. If they fail then they will be executed and the Govt will just use this as justification to become even more of a dictatorship.
Erdogan supporters have taken to the streets to voice their opinions and some attacking soldiers (Wouldn't surprise me if there's a few lynch mobs taking advantage of the hesitance of soldiers to fire on rowdy civilians). But those supporting the military need to also take to the streets and show that it's not just a small group trying to take power.
>U.S. Embassy Ankara informs U.S. citizens that there is a military uprising underway in Turkey. The situation remains fluid. Martial law and a curfew have been imposed in Turkey. All flights at Ataturk Istanbul Airport have been suspended, and other airports throughout Turkey are closed.
>We have seen reports that social media may be blocked, but you can contact friends and family by email, telephone, or SMS. We encourage U.S. citizens to shelter in place and not go to the U.S. Embassy or Consulates at this time. Monitor local press for updates, avoid areas of conflict, and exercise caution if you are in the vicinity of any military or security forces.
>In this context, U.S. citizens should exercise vigilance in public and residential areas and tourist destinations. Expect further disruptions in commercial and public transportation, and check with your transportation provider (e.g., airline, train operator, etc.).
Are tanks vulnerable to people crawling all over them?
I thought most modern tanks were completely sealed for the NBC protection
anyone know what the stationed US troops are doing at Incirlik and elsewhere in Turkey?
>>30638912
Didn't see any tanks that were breached at all, or captured crewmen for that matter. Saw a couple abandoned M113s though.
>>30638912
molotovs in the air intake and exhaust are about the only thing civilians have that could disable them
>>30638912
What do you mean "people crawling all over them"?
As long as the crew is buttoned up they can just sit tight inside. Or decide to move at any time.
Although a lot of soldiers are refusing to be violent, aside from that one asshole in the attack helo that opened up on a group of people and was then shot down by an F-16.
>>30638912
the ones that were captured had their hatches open.
Lord knows what happened to the crews.
>>30638372
*tips fedora*
>>30638012
>>30637807
I see shit like this and it makes me sick that the US government gives guns and aid to any of the fucking rebels because there's no guarantee that those "rebels" aren't the same fucks who call themselves ISIS.
One one hand, Erdogan is a god damn tyrant.
On the other, I don't believe that the Turkroach military is less tyrrannical.
can someone tell me HOW THE FUCK the military is losing to police and civilians?
I haven't heard of any loyalist military power except for part of the air force
also, the military is surrendering in Istanbul:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO0g09LfbNQ
Reports that a coup soldiers are surrendering on a bridge.
This is either all planned to give a reason for a dictatorship or these soldiers are losing the battle because they refuse to fight it. I'm hesitant to believe claims that the coup is failing, but pictures don't lie.
>>30638914
Holing the fuck up and making sure no one crosses their perimeter.
>>30638014
we just have to wait and see
it would really stir things up in that part of the world
>>30637741
Indeed
>>30639009
I'm surprised they're leaving the tanks.
>>30639037
>Leave the tanks or we'll light you up from our fighter jets.
Pretty easy decision.
>>30639037
but who the hell are they surrendering TO? and WHY?
captured soldiers are getting fucking lynched by the mobs, and if the mobs don't get them, they'll be executed anyway
>>30639054
Gonna be hard to light up those tanks with AIM-9s
>>30639037
They're not using them. They're the military and have every advantage for fighting, but they won't use it. As I said: they either are all plants or they foolishly think they can win without shedding blood. That or they're common infantry that were ordered there prior to the start of everything and realized they may be lumped in with rebelling commanders.
>>30639055
The civilians and police. Which, as you said, is not going to end well. Pictures are already coming out of soldiers being disarmed and bloodied. Erdogan supporters will likely not show the same mercy and restraint the soldiers showed.
>>30639009
They were probably expecting less resistance, Erdogan clearly has far more support than they anticipated.
>>30639009
Still no news about the situation in Ankara. Still no news about the situation literally anywhere else in the country. For all anyone could know half the major military installations in the country could be under the control of Erdogan's enemies and just waiting for a go-code.
>>30639096
all we're hearing is news out of Istanbul. It looks like loyalists have control of the state media again. Not hearing anything from Ankara or elsewhere
>>30639096
inb4 the coup planners realised their troops weren't going to commit unless something really fucked up happened, so they wrote off some of their forces in Istanbul to get massacred by kebab and are waiting with the rest of their forces.
>>30639091
If the past is any indication, this is a fucking political unicorn: a pro democracy coup. They clearly want to set Turkey back on a track to liberal democracy, but nobody is going to buy that if they see soldiers firing on unarmed civilians. The army probably underestimated how much popular support Erdogan had, and wasn't expecting such resistance from the civilians.
How are the tank crews getting pulled out of their tanks by civies. Dont the hatches lock from the inside?
>>30635657
you all should read this, makes a lot of sense tbqh.
>>62156138
>>30639133
here's a summery, it was posted by some turk on /int/
The coup was never meant to work out in the first place.
The Turkish military isn't incompetent. They're an exceptionally well trained force. And they have institutional experience with multiple coups in the country's past.
When the Turkish military actually wants to overthrow a government, they know exactly how to do it. They do it swiftly. They shut down communication, they quietly arrest all members of the parliament and the cabinet before a General goes on TV to make the declaration. That's the way it's done without violence and bloodshed. Those of us old enough to remember the 80s will think back on Kenan Evren and remember that his coup successfully ended before anyone even found out there was a coup.
What happened tonight was not a coup. It was a sham. It was Erdogan realizing that he wasn't going to win a referendum for Presidency, and instead engineering an orchestrated fake coup attempt to garner sympathy, so that he can consolidate his power and entrench his dictatorial rule. We watched what little left of the Republic of Turkey die on live TV and social media broadcast tonight. Now we get to watch as Erdogan declares himself the new sultan of Turkey, and uses tonight's events as justification for imprisoning and executing anyone who dares to criticize him. Enjoy!
>>30639132
They're giving themselves up because they don't want to flatten the people blocking their way.
>>30639093
It seems only his supporters are out right now. Those that are siding with the military are obeying the command to stay inside and out of the streets.
Military attempts to keep things civil and nonviolent are backfiring horribly. They need to either use the weapons they have to secure the territory they have gained (And risk becoming demonized more than they already have) or pack up and flee to where they will avoid capture. Surrendering will just mean accepting defeat and most likely imprisonment/ execution (Even if Turkey does not have capital punishment for civilians- these are soldiers held to a different standard).
>>30639067
The people in the tanks probably know Erdogan's camp has air superiority. They don't know if the jets have any munitions for attacking the ground. Also if you're surrounded by a bunch of forces that may have anti-tank weapons you've lost.
Tanks are mobile artillery, not fortresses. They can't survive for long when they've lost all their supporting ground forces. Even if they tried to break through the line of pro-Erdogan forces someone would just hit them with an rpg or something eventually.
Reuters says coup failed.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-security-primeminister-idUSKCN0ZV2HK
>>30639156
There never was one, see >>30639149
>>30639154
>>30639155
>>30638012
I hope those peace loving people cut your fucking head off on camera.
>>30639156
the media is putting out non-stop lies about how the coup is over
all bullshit
>>30639149
see >>30638500
Even if this isn't the case, all of his enemies are going to know that they're in the queue for the chopping block. I don't think they'll go quietly.
>>30639156
Reuters knows just as little as any other media outlet. All anyone knows is from state sources in Istanbul, which shouldn't be taken at face value.
>>30639183
And how's that different than what I said? Erdogan wins in 3/4 cases here, and if he does democratic secular turkey goes bye bye and here comes Erdogan the sultan.
>>30639009
They refuse to fight because their opponent is hordes of Erdogan-supporting Islamist citizens. They won't fire into the crowd, so they surrender
>>30639183
I want to believe that the coup is working and that their supporters will take to the streets if they have not already. But the media is just parroting whatever "official" statements the Government makes. Safe to say that some areas are surrendering but other are certainly still under military control. I have to wonder why they didn't shoot down Erdogan's plane as it landed. Even if he had a fighter escort, unless the coup forces don't have access to air-to-air or SAM weapons.
Erdogan has declared the coup forces "terrorists" who will be "dealt with accordingly"
definitely will be executed
>>30639202
how does he win against the military?
>>30639229
They didn't shoot down his plane because the whole thing was a farce designed to make Erdogan look good.
Istanbul is Constantinople.
Time to clean all that shit out of the haiga sophia.
>>30639242
Along with every other Kemalist conveniently 'involved' in the coup.
>>30639229
We're at the hardest part of a major happening now. We've got to wait.
>>30639245
Erdogan has been replacing secular military leaders with islamists ever since he came to power. He's got the country divided in half, so he could probably command loyalty from a sizable portion of the armed forces.
>>30639245
by having the civies on his side, and that means there's still a large part of the military that his under his control.
>>30639208
And surrendering to Islamists is about the worst thing you can do.
Especially with statements like: >>30639242
Soldiers who were willingly part of the coup had better be prepared to fight and those that were unknowingly made part of it need to pick a side and if they choose to surrender they need to have proof they were not willingly involved.
>>30639149
This might be different, apparently Erdogan invested a great deal of time and effort into bringing the military under government control, meaning that they might not have had the resources and influence to pull off such a successful coup like they have in the past. If Erdogan has replaced much of the high command with his cronies then pulling off a swift, bloodless coup would be much harder.
>>30638012
thats probably one of the more humane isis killings desu
>>30639272
Erdogan did not win a majority of the vote in Turkey. The country is literally split in half.
>>30638290
>again
for fucks sake i just moved back
>>30639317
he doesn't need a majority, just fanatic enough civies.
>>30638672
Christianity doesn't state the Earth's age. The "hurr Earth is only 6,000 years old!" meme needs to die. Christians have never believed that. They didn't know how old it was, but they were aware it was very old. Origen, a Church Father, spoke heavily of this. Something along the lines of
>Who is to say how long a day was before there was a Sun and Moon?
Basically saying that the Creation story is metaphorical and not literal.
Christian fundamentalism that believes stupid shit like that is actually relatively modern, beginning in the early 19th century in America.
>>30639272
Theres likely large neutral parts of the military, but none is under his control.
>>30639339
Except pre-Vatican 2 all three Catholic churches took the old testament as word for word immutable fact. Which at the time of Vatican 2 put it a hair over 6k years old. Greek and Russian Orthodox still preach it that way.
Same with the Lutherans, Jews, and Mormons.
>>30638912
>Pepsi logo
Reports of conflict spreading to army headquarters in the eastern part of the country. Also, pro-coup forces appear to have control of army website and claim that operations are still underway.
https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754171162708631552
>>30639503
It's definitely not clear what's going on. Soldiers in parts of Istanbul were surrendering. But Ankara is still military held.
Supposedly business in ports are not being effected but a Turkish Admiral is on an arrest list and there's pictures of warships firing at something.
It's currently a shit show and a bunch of contradictory info is being reported.
>>30639553
It's no surprise that Erdogan would keep elements loyal to him in Istanbul, and in hindsight it seems that the Coup forces in Istanbul were disadvantaged to begin with, with most of the head of the 1st Army there declaring his alegiance to Erdogan.
>>30639553
There are reports now of mass evacuation of naval vessels from their ports. Hopefully they're pro-coup because they could give a serious edge in AA cover over Istanbul. There are also reports that fighting has broken out near the 2nd Army headquarters in the eastern part of the country.
https://twitter.com/taylieli/status/754172954058121216
Welp, that was a bad idea
>>30639553
Reuters already said it's over idiot
>>30639604
>it's over
>please ignore the helicopters, APCs, and entire Turk Navy still participating in the coup
>>30639604
Reuters only have access to government forces, which no shit wants the whole world to know that the situation is under control.
Unconfirmed reports that the Commander of the 3rd Army has been arrested. It's unclear who he supported or who he was arrested by.
>>30639594
How many rounds were they carrying each, before they surrendered?
>>30639594
Foolish to think surrendering to Islamists would be a good idea. Hopefully their deaths shows other soldiers that this is a serious fight where the point of no return has already been crossed.
>>30639604
And what is their source? State controlled media. The equivalent of Baghdad Bob at this point.
>>30639604
>>30639576
I really think the navy will be where this coup is decided.
>Commander of 3rd Army, Brigadier General Ekrem Çağlar was arrested in Erzincan (eastern Turkey).
Unconfirmed reports of high ranking officers being arrested now. If they weren't pro-coup then they should now think hard and fast.
>>30639612
Any sources on Turkish navy defecting? Ive been out of the loop for about two hours and already feel lost with all that's happening
>>30639638
They took of their helmets, LBVs, and dropped their rifles before they surrendered to police. It seems the police are unable to prevent the mob from taking out their anger on the soldiers.
>>30639668
All we know is that naval vessels are in the Bosphorus and firing at things. They also appear to be evacuating their naval bases. No concrete sources yet.
>>30639576
source?
https://twitter.com/DEFCONWS/status/754176244053266432
Several high-level commanders are being arrested, including a rear admiral in southern Turkey
>Breaking- Ankara: Tank leaving the Turkish Armed Forces headquarters fires at the trucks used as police barricade.
>>30639676
That doesn't answer my question and from the stream I saw the police doesn't seem to give a flying fuck about soldiers getting lynched.
Pro-Coup forces breaking out of the besieged Army HQ in Ankara with tanks. Firing on police and breaking through roadblocks.
https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754176312370135040
>>30639689
It's all twitter stuff from news aggregates. Very few pictures. There's a lot of confusion and very little concrete info.
>>30639694
Ergogan is paranoid.
His officers will surely switch to the pro-coup side now.
>>30639698
I've seen a few videos of the police storming the state media building and trying to protect soldiers from the mob. There is also footage of them on the bridges trying to restrain civilians. There really aren't that many of them, though, so they must be failing or don't care enough to try harder.
https://twitter.com/DEFCONWS/status/754175791714271232
Over 700 members of the armed forces have been detained, according to the ministry of justice.
Just a tweet but it says
>Breaking- Ankara: Tank leaving the Turkish Armed Forces headquarters fires at the trucks used as police barricade.
https://twitter.com/agirecudi/status/754175918294302720
If this is true then the coup forces in Ankara are a lot more dedicated than those in Istanbul. They're using their armor advantage to try to breakout. For what purpose I do not know.
But for people saying "It's over" I'm seeing more and more tweets of police and military action. Istanbul was just one part of something larger that is spreading.
>>30639743
Definitely almost all in Istanbul. That's the only place we're getting news from and the pro-coup forces there were clearly isolated and poorly supported.
>>30639699
GOD SPEED PRO COUP FORCES
>>30639026
ON MY POSITION
>>30637807
>believing roach shill info
As many as 25 Colonels and 9 Generals relieved of command, some arrested, according to Turkish Interior Ministry. Unclear if "relieving of command" is anything more than symbolic at this point.
>>30638039
Well seeing as the soldiers that surrendered at the bridge are being lynched and toss off the side, it's only gonna get worse from here.
Photographic evidence of Rear Admiral Nejat Demirhan being arrested in Mersin.
>>30639853
This might go without saying, but this gives a certain degree of credibility to the claim that the navy is acting in favor of the coup.
>>30639853
>A faction of pro-coup soldiers are still fighting with all of their determination against those who oppose them, Reuters cited Turkish military General Staff's press office statement. The soldiers are referring to themselves as Peace at Home Movement and urging people to stay inside their homes for safety.
>Meanwhile, witnesses cited by Reuters said there were clashes between anti-coup protesters and the soldiers surrendering at Istanbul’s Bosphorus Bridge after protesters attacked them.
This is according to RT
>>30639840
Literally meme magic bullshit
Pics or it didnt happen.
The officers and soldiers need to kick it into high gear. Do they all want to be arrested and/or killed? Public lynching doesn't sound like fun.
Should've learned from the slavs and deployed this m8
>>30639853
Are those even cops? Or are they just random Erdogan supporters arresting him for shits and giggles?
>>30639892
I'm honestly betting this mass arresting of military officers will make the pro coup side stronger.
Seems like the pro coup side is very restrained, and not showing all its capable of yet
>>30639896
Probably police. Erdogan is functionally in complete control of police forces across the nation. There's been happenings since 3AM their time so they probably didn't have time to get in uniform.
>>30638825
>Cops vs. spec ops
>Cops win
>Implying
lololololololol
>>30639906
arrest of their leaders means they will become increasingly disorganized, though
What does this destabilization mean for the middle east? Russia?
>>30639938
The special forces are pro-erdogan. Coup forces were attacking the Special Forces HQ.
>>30639951
The border between syria and turkey will get fucked and there might be no control
>>30639964
I figured but ISIS is stretched thin as it is. So will the flow of ISIS/Weapons increase through the cluster fucked border?
>>30639964
>implying any existed to begin with
Unless you're a Kurd, the Syrian/Turkish border may as well be an open door with milk and cookies on the Turkish side.
>>30639947
The actual leaders of the coup wouldn't be stupid enough to allow themselves to be arrested in the first place. In all likelihood these were just unaffiliated or neutral commanders.
Pictures available of where Pro-Coup forces broke through police roadblocks in Ankara. https://twitter.com/agirecudi/status/754182027809845248
>>30639951
PKK likely to go on the offensive. With no organized Turkey to intervene, Russia will become more active in both Syria and Armenia. Expect the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict to flare up again if this confusion continues.
>>30635657
It's not a war. It was a civil coup against an islamic despot who refuses to leave the government and imposed his power over the people and police.
What you see there is the same thing that would happen if the US tried to take Obama out of the white house.
Can't just shoot citizens when you represent the military of the same nation if they aren't being hostile. Why do you think this is ALWAYS a thing in Islamic countries?
>>30636375
>Serves the fuck right for standing against the secular coup.
This
If the guys you're rooting for are shouting ALLAH ACKBAR non-stop every time a firecracker goes off then you're rooting for the wrong guys.
Fuck those mudslimes, and good on this coup for trying to prevent that place from being a full blown islamist shithole.
Turkish National Police Chief claims 16 pro-coup soldiers killed during raid on Gendarmerie HQ in Ankara. Fighting continues.
>>30639989
If this drags on longer than a few weeks, shit could really go down.
>>30639988
That's my theory too. I'd imagine it will make a lot rethink their position real quick, and will draw quite a few to the pro-coup side.
>>30638250
States neighboring unstable or warring states almost always fall into some sort of conflict themselves due to refugee flow and closer contact with the fighting and the clashing ideologies.
So how soon until the arabs start to clank?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/15/asia/turkey-military-action/
Erdogan claims coup is over
>>30639995
>shouting ALLAH ACKBAR non-stop every time a firecracker goes off
Are you implying that this isn't a sound and reasonable tactic? I personally can't wait until we get more tier 1 operators like this guy.
>>30639477
Not sure if completely dumb.
>>30638290
Time to watch Waltz With Bashir for Iraeli Vietnam flashbacks
Government propaganda source claiming fighting at Gendarmerie HQ is over. 16 killed 250 captured. http://www.dailysabah.com/nation/2016/07/15/small-gulenist-junta-in-military-attempts-to-stage-a-coup-in-turkey-situation-under-control
Take this with a tablespoon of salt.
>>30640071
Of course he claims it's over you twit.
>>30638778
I heard those were the secret police or gestapo or something. So the special ops guys took them out first.
>>30640071
The mainstream media has been claiming that for fucking 5 hours you bloody nonce.
>>30640071
Well no shit. The coup is against him, of course he would claim that he's still in control.
The Germans reported on June 6th, 1944 that they repelled the allied invasion. Didn't make it true.
>>30640071
Stop
posting
that
the
coup
is
over.
For fucks sakes, unless there are 0 reports of fighting, the coup is not over. The government keeps claiming that the coup is over and then the army does something big and they shut the fuck up for only two hours.
Last notable time they claimed the coup is over and that the heli over ankara was shot down, it was reported that the heli was still up (same one that was shot at) and that the TNA (Turkish National Assembly) was bombed by the pro-coup forces
>>30640084
I fucking love that movie
Where are the tanks?
Been waiting for 29 minutes already
>>30639055
> if the mobs don't get them, they'll be executed anyway
Actually according news Turkey does not have death sentence in peace time and while martial law was declared, it seems unlikely that rank-and-file soldiers would receive death sentence.
WHERE IS ALL THE FUCKING ACCORDIAN MUSIC.
GOD IS A SERB GODDAMMIT.
>>30640122
Tanks have been late for over two years already
>>30640131
>Implying Edrogan gives a shit what the law is.
>>30640120
I need to watch it still. Just the opening scene is awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxv1Zs0gMMk
>>30640083
I know I always see it when I look at it.
Help me
>>30640131
Turdogan has declared the rebel forces as "Terrorists" who will be "dealt with as such"
do you think they really won't get death then?
>>30639026
ON MY POSITION
>tfw this will not be a clankaning
At least it's something.
GO COUP GO.
GIVE COUP YOUR ENERGY
>>30640131
No death sentence for civilians. But for military members that are deemed treasonous, they will surely face harsh punishment.
>>30640122
>tfw the tanks never came
>>30637741
>>30639026
ON MY POSITION
Unconfirmed reports that Erdogan's Cheif of Staff General Hulusi Akar has been rescued by pro-government forces.
I feel like the armored breakout at the Army HQ in Ankara was attempting to move him out of the government's reach.
https://twitter.com/DEFCONWS/status/754187028787437568
>Reports of a major operation going on targetting, #Akinci air military base in #Ankara, from where pro-coup jets taking on/off.
>>30640207
I'm really betting this might drag on
>>30640207
Similar reports from same news outlet that Secretary General Fahri Kasirga has also been rescued by pro-government forces.
>>30640234
The lack of info getting out of the country is seriously blue-balling me. I'm scouring literally every outlet I can find.
>>30640239
Doesn't help that the coup doesn't even have any social media presence whatsoever. This may seriously bite their ass.
>>30640239
I'm appreciating your effort. You're killing my work productivity tonight, but Walmart can fuck themselves. Geopolitics is more interesting.
I'm really hoping most of the airforce is in on the pro-coup side.
>>30640229
There were reports earlier of fighters armed for air engagements taking off.
The people flocking to coup tanks may have saved them from airstrike by pro-government aircraft. But now there may be dogfights if an airbase is under attack, as well as heavy air action depending on what side the Navy is taking since they surely have anti-air weapons.
>>30640246
That already bite their ass. Fucking nobody would side with the faction that is about to get BTFO.
>>30640254
>F-16 vs F-16
Lets see who will win.
>>30640246
It's a military coup, not an Arab Spring uprising.
>>30640246
Almost all social media sites are inaccessible at the moment. Almost all information is coming from state media and a Kurd in the south-east who's outside of Erdogan's censorship blanket.
>>30640254
I don't know much about modern air combat. Would normally friendly aircraft even be able to lock weapons on each other? Would they have to resort to guns?
>>30640267
It's just a computer in the aircraft. Pretty easy to change who's friend and who's foe
>>30640257
I disagree. I imagine a lot of the military action is purposely kept under wraps.
If it draws into a rebellion then I'd imagine they would start posting shit
>>30640267
DARKSTAR JUDY JUDY
>>30640267
The "censorship blanket" is just DNS censorship from what I've heard. So there are turks who just change to google dns or whatever and post anyway.
Of course normally friendly aircraft would be able to fire missiles at each other. There might be some sort of override in the targeting computer or whatever but I'm sure they'd be fine.
>>30640267
If there's a way to bypass of change the IFF then they could lock their missiles onto targets.
I really don't know, myself.
>>30640291
You could at the very least say something. Anything. Keeping silent is fucking awful for morale.
>>30640254
Reports of pro govt jets scrambling to deal with rebel aircraft- Al Jazeera
>>30640267
>Would normally friendly aircraft even be able to lock weapons on each other
Yes. Pretty sure that you can also override the IFF.
>>30640296
goin in for guns
>>30640322
Read up in the thread a bit. Pro-Coup forces control the Army's website and put out a statement an hour or so ago.
>>30640331
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77LocME2s9c
>>30640331
Do we have any clue how many jets each side has?
>>30640349
seems like the majority of the air force is loyalist
>>30640239
>>30640207
Same news outlet now reporting that Army HQ in Ankara has been secured by pro-government forces. Earlier developments would suggest that Pro-Coup forces already withdrew from the complex, but nothing is clear on these matters.
Damage to Turkish parliament building
>>30640360
>loyalist air force
Well, that's not good.
>>30639477
Gotchu f.a.m.
>>30640360
Hard to tell. There's just no clue how powerful the rebels are.
>>30640360
>POGs being loyalists so they continue to get their welfare checks
Surprise!
>>30640360
Does the navy have the ability to shut the airforce down?
All mainstream news outlets appear to be parroting Erdogan's claims that the coup is over. We know this is not the case, but expect info to drop off for a while until something really major happens.
>>30640379
Nobody has any fucking idea whatsoever. Almost nothing has been confirmed and the majority of the news leaving the country is Erdogan's propaganda.
>>30640369
Why hit the parliament building?
>>30640336
Well that statement is basically the same they released at midnight which doesn't mean jack as it doesn't say anything new.
>>30640338
I fucking love the music in this series. I played the shit out of the balkan one.
>>30635657
why are turkey tanks so small?
Fuck.
>General Staff headquarters in Ankara successfully re-taken from coup soldiers
https://twitter.com/DEFCONWS/status/754190876432211970
That does not bode well. Ankara HQ has fallen and whatever pro-govt commanders being held have been freed. Seem like >>30640207 was right.
Hopefully there are other command centers and this isn't a total decapitation of coup leaders.
>>30640397
>All mainstream news outlets appear to be parroting Erdogan's claims that the coup is over.
Theyve been doing that for hours. I have no idea why they are repeating that like it is fact. It is really grossing me out.
>>30640413
All of those reports including the ones I posted about the rescues are as of yet unconfirmed and all come from the same unidentified source.
CNN reporting Istanbul airport is now open to flights.
That city seems to be pacified since the soldiers on the bridge surrendered.
Gendarmerie headquarters in Ankara - the main base for coup soldiers - has successfully been retaken - Hurriyet
It's looking like it failed.
Those guys on their jets better be carrying the big ones.
>>30640427
>>30640413
So basically at this point we're just praying that this is all just Pro-government shilling and that the situation on the ground is much better than what the state media says it is?
>>30640446
They felt comfortable enough reopening the airport and having the president walk through a big fucking crowd of supporters right in the middle of the street.
I'm saying they won.
>>30640446
Yup. Cause if it isn't, Turkey is about to get a hell of a lot shittier.
>>30640446
Yes. The worst part of every happening has begun.
We have to sit and wait.
>>30640454
That's only in one city, and it's not like the Pro-Coup forces are going to shoot down passenger liners.
>>30640454
To be the devil's advocate, that's in Istanbul, which is literally his fortress right now. The majority of the coup forces are in Ankara and elsewhere.
>>30640446
Pretty much. While a lot of the media reports are propaganda trying to downplay things, I'm no longer seeing Twitter updates talking about fighting and seizures of vital points by pro-coup forces.
All the news has been from Istanbul and Ankara and I don't know what's going on in the rest of the country.
>>30640436
No way we know yet. We shouldn't be jumping to conclusions, especially since the rebels have been so reserved.
Istanbul could be pacified, as it was a hot spot for loyalists.
It looks dark right now, but I'm wouldn't call anything yet
>>30639676
Unable? Or unwilling?
>>30640436
>Inb4 Turkey Belka's itself
See, this is why you shouldn't ignore modern infowar.
So the soldiers didn't fire on civilians, and then in turn they've all been murdered. This was a demonstration on what the Globalist/PowersThatBe has planned for the us and the US military.
>>30640479
Do we know what is going on in the rest of the country? Everyone seems to be focused on only two places.
