Lever Action Thread
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>>30628223
Been wanting something in 44mag.
Anything good under $1,000?
>hard mode, CA citizen
I don't know much about lever guns so I don't know what my budget should be
>>30628683
for those specs buy used, you can get a check one off gunbroker.
>>30628223
Love me some Lever Actions.
Not mine, but one day when I win the lottery.
>>30628683
Is lever action affected by the laws CA passed recently? Pretty sure it's only semiauto but still might want to double check.
>>30628223
My uncle didn't tell me how expensive .32 was when he gave me these today
Maybe I should've gotten my grandfather's single shot that was used in a bank robbery
>>30628777
They are unaffected which is kinda why I want one. Can't leave yet and I'm so tired of them fucking with my guns
Do lever shotguns count?
There's a ton of fun lever guns on the market right now.
As far as 44 magnum, here's the breakdown:
-low end will be your Rossi or braztech levers. Hit or miss but functional.
- mid low will be new production Marlin. Only get ones made in the last six months or ones made before 2011. The were bought by Cerberus and the quality took a massive dive for a while.
- mid to high is Henry territory. Pretty brass or lighter steel. Downside is the lack of loading gate.
- high is Winchester. Hand fitted in Japan these days.
Hope all that info helps
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>>30628800
Which salt lever shotgat is that. Pardus?
>>30628788
Can't go wrong with a bolt rifle or semi auto shotgun either.
In California as long as the Semi Auto Shotgun has a Mag tube, not detachable magazine, you can have the tube sticking out 1 ft over the barrel. Make you Shotgun over 10 shells and tell them to fuck off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeE7wzJoSg8
>>30628893
Uzkon
>>30628901
Do you know how they compare to the Adler or Pardus?
How's the action?
I have a friend who says he's Adler action is a bit sticky. Should break in though. Also I don't like the bar that goes from the lever to the rear of the receiver on the Adler so I was thinking an uzkon or Pardus
>>30628919
The uzkon doesn't have a bar like the Adler which is nice it means you don't have to cycle it hard. I only picked it up yesterday so haven't had a chance to shoot it. The action is a bit rough at the moment but I'm sure it will come good once I've run it in
>>30628950
That's cool. I wish someone would do a comprehensive comparison of the three
so lets say the dems get control of everything and a big AWB rolls through. I'll need a firearm project and I think it'll be a matching set of revolver and lever gun.
38/357 or 44s/44 magnum? I'm pretty sure they'll have to be blued as stainless steel marlins are FUCKING EXPENSIVE and I haven't seen too many other makers.
>>30628683
My Marlin 1894 in .44mag was ~$700. It's got a ten round tube mag so there shouldn't be any capacity law issues.
>>30630515
I'd say 38spc/356mag if you're concerned about recoil. .44 magnum revolvers are FUCKING HUGE, to the point that a Deagle in .44 actually seems like a reasonable alternative.
>>30630532
when was yours made/bought? how do you like it?
I'm eyeing an old used marlin or a new built in the last 6 months one. I dont like the Henry loading and Winchesters are expensive. I wont buy a rossi.
>>30630539
heh thats part of the fun. I was thinking of a snubnose 38 or 4 inch 357...or a 4-6 inch 44. I'm guessing a 4 inch 44 has a bit of punch?
>>30628787
What kind of knife is that?
>>30630540
I bought mine at my LGS last month, and the quality's fine. Anything post-2014 should be good again, the newer the better. I totally agree with you on other levergun brands. The only non-Marlin I'm considering is a BLR in some big fuddy hunting cartridge.
>>30630550
Yeah, 6" balances a little better and the recoil is more manageable. I've fired a few of other people's revolvers but I'm looking at a 6" Ruger Redhawk as a partner for my Marlin.
>>30630532
Should all levers be bought in .44? I feel that shit like .45-70 govt is super expensive.
Been fun so far. Need a stock shell holder and sling.
>>30631071
.30-30 is a good round and has probably taken down more deer in the US than anything else. Some of the other calibers have good uses as well.
As far as carbines, .44 is great in the woods and .357 will work on anything smaller than a black bear. I think .44 is better but thats just my opinion.
>>30631112
very cool. when was that lever made? are they making stainless marlins again?
>>30630628
I'll start the search. I wont be buying until im screwed by the new laws to come.
>>30631144
stainless marlins seem to be pretty common online nowadays.
>>30631144
What are some good .30-30 levers?
>>30631184
tons of options. Almost any levergun manufacturer makes them....and sadly I'm not the right person to inform you on the differences. It'll be the most common used lever gun caliber though.
>>30631168
all I'm seeing are pre remingtons for 1.2k plus....where should I be looking?
>>30631184
Marlin 336 is the gold standard, so long as you avoid the "oh god why" era of bad QC all Marlins went through.
>>30631071
.45-70 pretty much demands reloading since it's stupid expensive to buy new and super simple to reload. Check out this awesome old dude literally doing it on a stump innawoods.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3duhNVjAu6E
>>30631395
That reloading is so cool. Also do you know the years marlin had shitty qc? Or is it just a gamble.
There's a 50~100 year old Mares Leg in 44 mag for 500$
Should I buy?
>>30630515
I'd go with a .357 combo. .357 magnum isn't anything to scoff at in a revolver or lever gun and .44 just seems like diminishing returns for two legged predators
Why cant Winchester bring back the Russian model 1895's. All the coolness of a lever action but with a common surplus round and stripper clip friendly. Would buy
>>30631518
There's no way it's older than 60years old, and it woulda had to be made right when Steve McQueen's mares leg first hit the silver screen.
>>30631112
Nice guns sir. What's the revolver though?
I got a 686 a while ago in .357 and planned on getting a .357 Marlin to accompany it. However I am having serious trouble just finding one for me to buy. Any suggestions?
>>30631492
>Also do you know the years marlin had shitty qc? Or is it just a gamble.
2006-2014 seems to be the bad years, but as always, make sure you check the gun out physically before buying it if at all possible.
>>30632216
Look online (buds, armslist, CTD, etc.) and do an FFL transfer. My LGS only had the one good Marlin (my .44) and I fucking pounced on it when I saw.
>>30628223
Gonna trade for a Henry .44 mag today, I can't wait.
Now that I have my modern rifle and pistol that I can go to war with, all I want is a bunch of cool wood and steel cowboy guns
>>30628223
I was raised on two farms, one a horse and crop farm and the other a big cattle farm. Rode bulls and roped in youth rodeo and all that shit until I was 16. Worked some cattle spreads and horse spreads and once a goat spread. Joined the military, got some time, transferred from active to guard for family. Now I'm trying to get into LE working armed security and not super enthused with life.
Thinking about selling all my possessions besides guns and buying a new revolver and a new levergun and taking my saddle and mount and heading further west.
>>30631258
The Marlins I have seen online have been stupid expensive as well.
What's a well built Lever gun (not looking for a specific caliber, but maybe .30-30 or .45-70, simply because I don't own anything in those yet) that ejects from the top? Any recommendations or ones to stay away from?
>>30632547
Top ejection is for fags. It makes it impossible to mount a decent scope.
One thing about .35 remington guns that I didn't know is that apparently if you wanted to you could use .357 magnum bullets in them as well. Which i think is pretty cool.
leverlove
>>30631766
So should I get it?
>>30631144
>As far as carbines, .44 is great in the woods
Damn straight. I'm taking mine camping with me today.
>>30631144
It's a 2016 Marlin 1895 SBL.
>>30632216
S&W 6.5" 500 I wish I had interchangeable cartridges, but this works fine.
Pic related was my 357 before I sold it.
I'm looking into getting a lever action for a general innawoods gun while hiking and camping.
What are some good brands and calibers to look into? I know to avoid Marlin because lol Freedom Group.
I'm currently thinking about a Rossi in .357. It would also encourage me to buy a GP100 so I can have a companion rifle and revolver.
>>30633906
Where are you hiking? 357 isn't bad but not great. I would do a 44 mag combo. 329pd revolver with marlin 1894. Modern, post 2012 marlins aren't bad
>>30633954
Northern Arizona.
I overlooked .44 mag because I'm not a fan shooting pistols chambered in it.
Maybe keep the magnum rounds for the lever gun and shoot .44 special through the revolver?
>>30633954
I was also considering a 30.30 because I've had fun with them.
>>30628683
Get a Henry Big Boy Steel. They're around $700 in the US, I don't know what that is in Maple Dollars.
>>30633973
>Northern Arizona.
You will want .44 for black bear, mule deer, and lynx.
>>30634117
>>30634066
What's shooting .44 special through a revolver like? I can't stand shooting .44 mag, it just isn't what I like out of a handgun.
I figure that'll be a decent balance, .44 mag through a Rossi and .44 special through a Super Redhawk.
>>30631395
This guys is freaking awesome.
>>30632792
Just the bullet, not the cartridge
Just picked up this beautiful Henry Big Boy Steel .44 mag today
>>30636082
So nice. How much?
>>30630540
Not the same anon. I have a 1950s marlin 336 in .35 and i couldn't be happier with it. If ammo wasn't so expensive, I'd shoot it more than my ar. Its very accurate, smooth as butter, and just a lot of fun.
I hear multiple things about Marlin rifles.
I hear their quality took a massive dive after they were acquired by the Freedom Group, but I also hear their recent production rifles are decent.
So which is it? Anybody have a more comprehensive answer than the "they suck, no they're good!" answers I've been receiving? I just want more details before I consider buying one.
>>30637283
Not an expert but I e been shopping around for a Marlin 39 and this is what I have gleaned. Qc went to shit after freedom group closed the Connecticut factory and moved machines to new location sometime around 2006, it sounds like things have improved but I don't know exactly how recently you need to have a good gun, purists will be looking for the pre-crossbolt safety models that began in the mid eighties
>>30637775
I'm just looking for something to hunt with iron sights with and I like lever guns.
If new manufacture is reliable and have no quality issues, I'll definitely get a Marlin. I just don't want to buy shit that have been improperly assembled or using shitty materials.
The short and simple gist of this is I want to buy a hunting rifle that will last. Something I'm fudding it up with in my old age. At the same time, something reasonably priced.
Otherwise I'd say fuck it and just get a BLR, but I don't want to spent that much.
>>30638089
theres plenty of quality pre-shit years Marlins in hunting calibers that are very reasonably priced, for whatever reason the 39 is always 200-300$ more than the 30-30s I've come across
>>30636166
I dunno haha. They retail around $700 where I am. I traded an NPAP for it
>>30633754
Why did you sell it?
>>30636082
Your a big boy
>>30628223
what model/brand lever action is that?
>>30639106
Fuck, it's upside down. Corrected:
>>30638537
4 u
I've been enjoying a lot of Western art lately and the winchester 1894 has piqued my interest. Are these worth owning? I'd like to shoot it at least a little, so collector value is not the priority. Are the pre 64 models worth the dosh?
>>30639360
Mine is a pre-64, and works very well. Family heirloom piece that wasn't particularly well taken care of until it came to me. I haven't run rounds through a post-64, but the action feels just as rock solid. Hard to go wrong with a model 94, just get it in 30-30 if you don't want your wallet to get bent over a barrel. I'm getting used to the buckhorn sights, as I'm used to M1-style sights and scopes, but it's reasonably accurate to about 100 yards for me, and seasoned shooters can use them reliably at 200-300.
Any ausfags what to shitpost about lever shotties?
I'm looking at buying one but not sure which brand to chase.
>>30630585
Not the guy you asked but goodle "solingen edge mark"
That one looks like a 473 but it may be one of the 4## knives. Got mine from my grandpa. It'll take a hair popping edge if you know how to make one.
>>30630515
I'm looking at getting an uberti cattleman and a Rossi ranch hand both in 45lc as saddle guns. Did some research before making that choice though, and if I weren't wanting an affordable mares leg, I'd get my levergat in 357/38. The versatility in ammo is nice, and if you're wanting a relaxing day at the range, 38 out of most lever guns feels about the same as plinking with 22 in terms of recoil
>>30638522
357 wasn't powerful enough for any backpacking gun but wasn't really all that cheap (38) to shoot a ton. Now I reload for 500sw pretty cheap.
>>30639739
>357 wasn't powerful enough for any backpacking gun
Sure, if you live in Alaska or Africa. 150-200gr bullets licking the heal of 1900fps is fucking around
>>30639794
Where are you getting 150-200gr bullets near 1900fps? Buffalo bore 180gr is going 1375fps out of a 4" barrel. Perhaps you're referring to a rifle length barrel?
>>30638883
not OP, but it looks like a marlin
>>30639979
This is a lever action thread dummy. Though a repro lever pistol would be a laugh
Quality of Winchester 94 made in the 80s? I have a mint pre 64 that I can't bring myself to shoot. I want a lever shooter
>>30628683
Got my Rossi 92 for $400 and have had no problems with it.
I named it Laura.
>>30638883
Looks like a Marlin 1895GL, but not certain about the last bit. Definitely an 1895 though.
Do any modern lever action guns have a method of locking the lever in place?
Love my Model 94.
>>30628223
Questions; Why didn't the U.S Invest more into Lever action at the turn of the century?
And 2
Lever action vs Bolt action, what makes bolt action unique or lever?
>>30641213
Lever action jams more
>>30641213
hard to use in prone, and can't use pointed bullets.
Guys I have a question regarding headspace on lever actions.
What determines the headspace with these designs ?
How is it fixed if it becomes unacceptable ?
Is it different for .22 LR ?
>>30642234
Headspace on rimmed cartridges really isn't an issue, the rim takes care of that by just being there.
>>30642349
Does that mean there is NEVER an issue with excessive headspace on .22LR or RARELY ?
Also why is the captcha making me select trucks after this Nice attack.
>>30642353
Headspace is determined by the rim itself. If you get brass that has a too thin rim you could get headspace issues certainly.
Competition shooters who use rimmed will sort them by rim thickness and try to use only one so their loads don't vary.
As brass wears and the rim gets thinner you'll notice it gets harder and harder to extract since the case is going further into the chamber.
>>30642353
As for excessive headspace it doesn't appear to be a problem, at least in .45-70.
The Hornady Lever Revolution ammo is a good 1/4 inch or more shorter than a standard case.
Being a straight walled chamber it probably doesn't really matter, or that's always been my way of thinking.
In a chamber with a neck and shoulder it's probably much more important.
>>30642377
>>30642401
I now understand that for rimfire cartridges it's more dangerous for the headspace to be too tight, which explains a lot. The reason I asked is because in this liberal shithole, I must be completely able to perform work on my guns myself, and since I like to shoot shitloads of rounds, I want to know what would be the easiest too maintain ( with limited knowledge/tools ). I just fucking love .22LR and was considering doing the paperwork for a lever action one.
>>30642409
Since most of the 22 lever actions seem to shoot LR, L and S rounds it seems to me that there's really no such thing as "excessive" headspace.
If you can fire 22 short in a chamber that also shoots 22LR it can't possibly matter.
>>30642414
I'm still learning about all this and to me this sounds like inexplicable magic.
Let's just say at some point however, it has been through a lot and it's time for the headspace to be adjusted to the factory settings again.
How would that be done ? Is it like other rifles where you just swap out the bolt and/or barrel ? Or are there any other parts that affect it, like the receiver ?
>>30641213
Standard lever action use tubular magazines which prohibit from using standard rifle cartridges as storing sharp-nosed rounds one after another is dangerous.
It also restricts from using Mannlicher system or stripper clips.
At the same time it causes more problems when firing while prone.
It's also more complicated and weaker than bolt action(no matter of system).
Now of course the problems have been fixed since - Winchester 1895 was converted to 7.62x54R, used box magazine and could be loaded with standard stripper clips but it came out when majority of armies already adapted their rifle so... yeah. Lebel, while bolt-action used tubular magazine and sharp-nosed ammunition without problems although it had specific magazine constriction and used rimmed cartridges purposefully to achieve it. Lastly, there wasn't much point in using full-power high-penetration rifle ammunition in the first place(nowadays penetration is obviously a factor, but in let's say - 1900? Not really).
When some countries started thinking of replacing bolt-action service rifles with something else(Americans, Japanese and I think Italians were the first ones that took that idea seriously) they looked for semi-auto rifles already though. And all of them but one(the US) concluded that semi-auto rifles are no-go zone because they costed too much. The minimal upgrade in rate of fire lever-action allowed for didn't really warrant replacing the old trusty bolt actions either.
So, longs story short - the improvements came too late too matter and only saw service use in Russia because they desperately needed rifles so they went with buying 500k Win1895 in 7.62x54R. Then when some armies may have considered replacing their current rifles they gave too little advantage over bolt-actions in comparison with semi-autos so they didn't take off..
>>30642433
Well again, for straight walled cases I don't think it ever matters. The headspace would only grow over time, not shrink.
And since we've decided it seems that excessive headspace isn't an issue, you just shoot until the gun wears completely out.
Seems the only real problem is not using brass that has too thin a rim.
>>30642467
I don't have a problem with shooting until the gun wears out, I have a problem with the paperwork and when it wears out I need to be able to replace all parts myself, ordering the parts is not a problem, it's easier to order the parts than purchase the rifle.
This is what bothers me.
>>30642475
Yeah, I just don't think headspace is on your worry list, just parts that will wear out over time.
>>30642481
Possibly, I just want to know, does part replacement with lever actions ever include welding or serious shit ? Or is it all just, unscrewing and inserting the new parts ?
Or does it require 10 ton presses and such ?
Is it easy to remove a barrel or bolt ?
SBR'd Ranch Hand anyone?
>>30642665
HNNNNNNNNNNG
The last time I let it rest on a tree like this a fucking deer walked up. Don't do this.
>>30642873
Nice rifle. What kind of scope and sling? Does the receiver portion have finish work or duracoat on it, is it just the lighting ?
>>30643401
Not him but its a simmons scope
>>30628223
Fucking beautiful
>>30642873
Allen Company quick adjusting.
the scope is Simmons 4x fixed.
all factory finish.
