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What is this magwell mag holder thing and what are they used
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What is this magwell mag holder thing and what are they used for?
Will bump with more pics
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>>30610579
Israeli carry
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>>30610579
>Bar with a chick
>Not a gun free zone
Must not be a fag bar in Florida
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>>30610579
>what are they used for
Pretty sure they use it to 1:) ensure dumbfuck 19 year old conscript doesn't ND but 2.) still has ammo close by in case they have to blast a Palestinian that is trying to get silly.
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>>30610645
just keep it in your fucking purse
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>>30610602
It's Israel you illiterate tard
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>>30611077

At first I thought OPs pic is a cyberpunk dream come true.

Then my old age slapped me, and I realised that girl's father feels remorse daily that the best he could give his daughter is a world so shitty that she has to carry around a rifle because she runs a significant risk of people trying to kill her on a daily basis.

I love rifles, /k/. But I don't want a world where you need one just to grab a drink.
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>>30611153
>that girl's father feels remorse daily that the best he could give his daughter is a world so shitty that she has to carry around a rifle
This could potentially have been mitigated by NOT setting up camp right in the center of a clump of nations that hate his people, but Jews gonna Jew and hindsight is 20/20 I guess.
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>>30610618
Exactly this. The risk of 18yr-olds NDing is so big they invented a dummy round that sits in the chamber but sticks out far enough to act as a unloaded chamber indicator. Because letting your gun get full of crap is apparently better than NDing in the street.
t. Joo
>Pic related
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>>30611203

You and I both know that particular issue has reams of paper on how complex that issue is. So I'm going to try and dodge that bullet.

How much risk do you think we have here in N.A. and Europe of a similar fate from a rising GINI coefficient and the changes automation are bringing?
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>>30611153
Confirmed ignorant tard
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>>30610579
>>30610582
>>30610645

holy fucking shit isreal tighten up your fucking slings those are rifles not necklaces.
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>>30611153
good god get off the internet and go cry into your pillow you fucking faggot.
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>>30611153
it's israel

saw a bunch of QT 3.14s chilling in civvies with their weapons.

>inb4 they all have TAR-21s and other nice gear, even their border guards know better and carry sweet little compact M4s
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>>30611261
They're not supposed to be carrying them on the back anyway, but the idea of leaving the sling long is that you can immediately start firing without having to mess around with it.
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http://www.zahal.org/products/magazine-holder-mamach?path_parent=218969
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>>30611310
Right now the idea is to replace the M16 family with the Tavor gradually, starting with the guys who fight in urban areas and from APCs. Magav are after the regular line infantry in terms of priority. They'll get theirs soon enough.
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>>30611238
Unskilled labor was always going to become largely obsolete at some point, I was just banking on it not happening within my lifetime. Honestly I think people are generally too complacent to make a major unrest out of it all. I mean shit, the global financial collapse made thousands homeless and penniless and nobody did shit but camp on the lawn of Goldman Sachs for a month or two.
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>>30610579
>Fits steel G.I. type magazines
>Enables a carry of a magazine and ammo outside and parallel to the gun
>Magazine is held parallel to the gun and enables a quick operation for loading
>No need to carry your magazine in your pockets
>A secure way to carry a gun and a magazine together but not loaded
>Strong and durable lightweight reinforced polymer
>Fits into the magazine hole and keeps it clean and safe
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>>30611205
>>30610618
That's what conscription gets you.

Maybe you heebs should have learned from America's mistake in Vietnam and established a volunteer-only military.
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>>30611077
You apparently aren't supposed to keep a mag in the gun there so you have that so if you need to load up you can do it quickly.
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>>30611468
A volunteer only army would leave us nesr defenseless. We don't have the sheer manpower and physical isolation the US does to trust our defense to the tiny percent who would volunteer. In order to survive here in the ME, we need to be sure that every single guy (and many of the gals) knows how to use a rifle.
>risk of NDs vs risk of annihilation
I'll take my risks with a dirty rifle.
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>>30611453
why not just a loaded mag without putting one in the chamber?, this looks like it serves no purpose beyond that
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>>30610579
>>30610582
Aracdes, alcohol, open carry.
I want so much for this world to be real. It is just so beautiful.
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>>30611468
The only advantage of a "guns for hire"-type military is that you can send it off to fight wars that your people would never allow if they themselves had to fight in them. In my opinion, such wars should not be fought at all.
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>>30611568
You haven't met the average Israeli soldier. Racking the charging handle absentmindedly is a thing that can happen. The device is a cheap way of making sure you can't accidentally end up with a loaded rifle by messing around- you have to remove it from the well, flip it and return. A 2 handed operation which requires attention. Racking the charging handle can (and has been) done out of boredom.
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>>30611605
Come join the IDF! We have (kosher) cookies!
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>>30611421

I don't know, hitting sub 50% labor participation rate feels like uncharted territory to me. Hopefully you're right though.

That would be such a shit legacy to pass on otherwise.
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>>30611468
Conscription works rather well for Israel. the actual fighting force is mostly on par with any other western military. Even non-voluntary ones, to some extent.
Does it mean that the average Givati troop is "as good" as a Muhren? No, the Marine is more experienced and got more money spent on his training. But when you compare the general Givati division to a Marine force of similar size- things are starting to even out.

How so? First of all- IDF training, while on budget, is pretty good and designed to overcome&compensate for the fact that the public it's made for are 18yo conscripts that had their prom just few weeks ago
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Second thing is, and that's a thing usually forgotten when people talk about conscription, is that along with the bunch of worthless scum that get's drafted and you just shove them into some forgotten hole where they won't make too much trouble, you also get the opposite side: the athletes, the analytical geniuses and all the other "best of the best" types that other non-voluntary armies would never even dream of laying ahand on them because they would go on to make something more productive with their lives than joining the army. That would worth squat (like it is in the Russian army), if not for the IDF recognizing and utalizing this potential- so they start screening for students as soon as 7th-8th grade (out of 12). If we're talking about infantry, than teens are often joining the IDF with the fitness level of a starting marine because they spend summer vacations getting ready. That's how they manege to maintain high quality fighting force, even if lacking in experience.

The rest of the army doesn't fight. Most of the IDF soldiers shot only 15 bullets throughout their entire service because their job is logistical/office job/whatever. This is also part of the focused specialization created to negate to negative effects of conscription (no combat-training resources spent on people that can't & won't fight).
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The IDF are incompetent retards that exist because of handouts from the US government.

Wonder how many dead Jews their retarded carrying policy has gotten them.
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>>30612072
Not enough.
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>>30612072
>The IDF are incompetent retards that exist because of handouts from the US government.
Go watch the israeli film "Zero Motovation"

it perfectly surmises what over $2 Billion (with a B) of foreign "aid" to israyhell each year gets you.
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>>30612072
not alot i'd wager since there arent actually alot of brown people or the ghettos that result from them living there. don't get me wrong, theres poor areas and sleezy back alleys, but it's literally the shit you see in the movies with little beggar boys and turboshills trying to sell you "rare turquoise gem" necklaces and jewelery.

I was only there for 5 days but either it was a pretty nice country or they put a little something extra in the falafel.

tiberius was a shithole tho, mainly just the stray cats and hundreds of ravenous kittens swarming across the city, people simply stepping on them if they were in their way
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>>30611153
Jesus Christ, tumblr
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>>30611468
>Maybe you heebs should have learned from America's mistake in Vietnam and established a volunteer-only military.

Israel is the size of New Jersey with the population of New York City, there ain't enough Heebs to go around.

Oh, and they get $3+ BILLION in American tax dollars every year...
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>>30610579
>>30610645
>Oy vey

Fuck those fedora wearing faggots on /pol/

God damn I would love a IDF waifu... anyone know if they will think that my US catholic uncircumcised cock is sexy, in that they are rare in that neck of the world?
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>>30611629
Why don't they use condition 3, or are they seriously retarded

>no round in chamber
>safety on
>loaded magazine
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>>30610579
jesus christ I need to join the idf, lol. do they take non-jewish recruits?
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>>30611153
They are armed not because they need to worry about palistinian attack (at least the vast majority of them don't).

They are armed because it is part of the terms of her conscription. Once she's out, she's not going to carry. But having armed conscripts everywhere helps keep Israel's populace on a war footing, mentally, making them more likely to support things like blowing up a hospital to get to the bunker that was built beneath it.
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>>30611205
>Because letting your gun
> calling an individual weapon a "gun"
> I'm a NEET faggot POG who has never served

go back to COD
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>>30612868
They probably don't take non-israeli citizens but who knows.
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>>30610579

I would like to meat her.
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>>30612868
>>30612944
if i told them im jewish and showed them my dd-214 i bet that may improve my chances.
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>>30612964
probably not, isreali kikes don't consider american kikes to be kikey enough

and you have to be an isreali citizen anyway
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>>30612772
>you will never grow up and have a wife in a kibbutz
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>>30612801
no one does that, because it would be retarded to have retards walking around that close to chambering a round
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>>30612976

forgot pic
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>>30612972
i just want to be able to carry my riafu around and not get fucking purged by the local PD.

i feel bad leaving it at home.......i mean....i made it...im its dad...in a strange personification of a weapon kind of way.
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>>30610579
>a picture this perfect
>she's wearing plastic flip flops
fucking ruined it
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>>30613005
you faggots will nit pick the shit out of anything.
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>>30612972
Would any date a non heeb, as a fuck you to daddy?
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>>30613032

Only anal.
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>>30613026
I just don't get why you'd wear a dress like that in a place like that then make yourself look like you just crawled out of the homeless shelter wearing prison flip flops
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Slightly related. Can amerikans even serve in the IDF?
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>>30613038
even if I wear a rubber?
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>>30613026
its like jason alexander in shallow hal

my girlfriend is WAY WAY fucking outta my league, and fairly fulla shit a lotta the time but i keep my mouth way fcuking shut because i am not in the mood for another 4 year dry spell
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>>30613043

Maybe she had heels and she wore those instead of flats?
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>>30613043
Fuck that, flip flops are sexy as hell.
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>>30610579
what do you think her face looks like?
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>>30612686

I would let the second from the right occupy my lands any day of the year.

>>30612010

> get's drafted and you just shove them into some forgotten hole where they won't make too much trouble

Can this be confirmed by any IDF? I gotta say for US military there are absolutely retards in positions with far too much responsibility for themselves. They SHOULD be shoved into a corner, but are not for various reasons. Is this actually not true for the IDF? Are the most capable people often in charge of what they do best?

Or is that just looking through rose-tinted glasses. My intuition makes me think it's like the US where you have retards in important positions and decent folks shoved into a corner.

> >you also get the opposite side: the athletes, the analytical geniuses and all the other "best of the best" types that other non-voluntary armies would never even dream of laying ahand on them because they would go on to make something more productive with their lives than joining the army.

Hadn't thought about this before, but how much does an 18 year old braniac do as a conscript? Any notable conscripts effect significant change in the IDF over the years?

I'm not dogging on the IDF here. They've proven to be one of the most capable land and air forces in the world-- especially when you look at them in the context of size. I just am skeptical that conscription leads to a sizeable measure of good compared to volunteers. I understand it's necessary given the population size, but if Israel could have a volunteer force of the same size would it not be better?

Israel is kinda special too. That Zionist patriotism runs deep, so I assume even the meekest conscript would feel an urge to purge dirty Arabs rather than run.
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>>30613101
/pol/ pls go
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>>30613093
>looking like a third worlder/prison inmate
>making annoying flapping noises as she walks
>sexy
Fuck no
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>>30611605
When you're a pawn of a state that is waging a campaign of genocide against the original inhabitants you need to carry everywhere.
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>>30613032
Dunno about the women but i know one of my friend's sisters married an isreali, had to convert within a certain timeframe of their first child being born so he could be considered jewish (silly rules)
again, don't know about the women, I bet they have a hard-on for only the full-blooded isreali men so they can have strong, healthy, isreali baby (despite the tay-sachs)
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>>30613126
Suit yourself, she can come home with me then.
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Yes Americans can join the IDF
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/23/1-000-americans-are-serving-in-the-israeli-army-and-they-aren-t-alone.html
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When you make a thread asking a question about a firearm accessory and people start fighting over jew things
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>>30613215
The question got answered at the beginning of the thread. Also this is /k/
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>>30613075
YESSSS

ugh, you get me <3
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>>30613155

Maybe she likes to be spanked with sandals.
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>>30612686
Their magwells appear to be empty. I would like to fill them.
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>>30612868

99% of these are staged photos to literally illicit your reaction.

Good Goy
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>>30613154
I really dig the bitches but don't want to convert though
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>>30613485
>99% of these are staged photos to literally illicit your reaction.
Yeah, it's a photo of a woman.

You were saying?
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>>30613495
No converting needed. Just say you're Christian or believe in the Israeli free state.
Strangely enough sha of Iran used to be full on support of the Israelis.
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>>30613525
cool works for me, but I'm not snipped... will that freak them out, or will it give me exotic bonus points? Almost like catching a pokemon
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>>30611568

you think jews are really that smart?

they killed Jesus of Nazarath after all because of their stubbornness.
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>>30613485
"Elicit" you elliterate fuck
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>>30613550
>exotic
It varies but it can be. Israeli chick I used to know in the US on student visa freaked out when she met an Asian in person. It was weird.
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>>30612896
kys. No one cares about how you work for the government because you couldn't get a real job.
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>>30613612
get lost Christ fag.
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>>30613645
The irony, it's delectable.
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>>30613872

your loss fedora fag.
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>>30613842
the dude the vet was slamming was worse than the vet, yo
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>>30612686
Uh, does Israel have some version of the French Foreign Legion? I'd like to get me some full auto raifus and Israeli waifus
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>>30611468
>volunteer
Show me a soldier that works for no pay. Choosing a profession of your own free will is not volunteering.

This meme needs to die.
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>>30611205
Gonna need sauce on that optic.
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>>30614060
It's a beat to shit Mepro M21.
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>>30614060
Meprolight
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>>30613906
it was probably ententional
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>>30614034
what would you call it, as opposed to involuntary service?
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>>30611639
For sec I thought that'd be cool, looked it up and BAM, gotta be a jew :(
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>>30611153
It's no different than my daughter wanting to get her CCW.
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>>30611203
Masterful ignorance of history you got going on, Ace. They got dumped there because Palestine was a British mandate stolen from Syria in 1920. The Brits didn't mind giving it up, and the expectation was that the Jews would die at the hands of their neighbors within months.

And we all know how well that turned out.
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>>30610579
>>30610582
It's s called a banana you use it to carry a mag handy but not loaded
T. IDF
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>>30612868
Yeah they do.
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>>30611153
Maybe her father shouldn't have rolled into other people's land, set up a shanty hut, and claimed it his?
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>>30611629
Then the average Israeli soldier has no fucking business carrying a gun. If you are pants-on-head retarded enough to just "accidentally" load and fire your gun, YOUR GUN, that you carry with you apparently everywhere, you are less disciplined than the dumbest of privates I graduated basic training with. And for that, you deserve whatever happens to you after your ND.

I don't believe this.
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>>30616429
There is no shortage of retards in the IDF.
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>>30610579
>qt grill
>M4 Carbine (I think)

10/10 would wife

>tfw no qt rifle toting wife
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>>30616496
That's a sawed off M16A1 senpai

T. Idf
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>Used to play old battlefield games with some IDF guy and others
>Total bro, got me into real guns
>One day he comes into the chat to tell us he's gonna be gone for awhile
>"going to gaza, also they rocketed my town"
>Hasn't played since

Hope you're safe out there Digs
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>>30613107
> capable people often in charge of what they do best?
No. It's an army, and therefor is a clusterfuck and a mess. While armies fight the clusterfuckery with discipline, the IDF instead settled with rather super laxed out discipline that allows the low quality soldiers not to give a fuck- which will be noticed by the commanders that then can deal with it (not giving him work that he can fuck up, moving him somewhere where he won't cause trobule, etc.).
Another integral part of this system, is the general militarized culture and the high tregard the IDF is held in, which allows access to all information about future candidates as soon as high school. This also allows for testing for more important roles (intelligence analysts, for an example) to also start high school, thus maximizing the potential of the better quality manpower.
In conclusion: it's far from perfect, retards still manage to get to places where they don't belong, but compared to the rest of the armies in the world (this based on general info, as well conversations during joint trainings)- IDF's system is surprisingly decent.
> 18 year old braniac do as a conscript?
"Somehow, I'll, make a man, out of you...". See all the potheads in Hollywood movies that go to collage to go haywire? Same people. But:
1. Living in a country that is always embattled helps to set your mind when you need it, even if you just want to party in the rest of the time.
2. Growing up, knowing you'll join the army soon and have responsibility, allows the mind to mature while still wanting to party.
3. The IDF, even with it's comparatively laxed out discipline, still kicks you into form.
But young age also have advantages: less bureaucratic way of thinking, better reflexes (both body and mind), "fresh blood", etc.
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>>30613107
The filtering process is fairly good, seeing as conscription is a given (unless you want to ruin your employment chances in the future by draft-dodging), many people have places they'd like to serve, and with a little motivation, a lot of hard work and a dash of luck you get it. Generally the best athletes go to combat roles, the intelligent athletes go to flight school/the Navy, the moderately intelligent get sent to technical duties (like aircraft maintenance), and the academic overachievers go to study for a degree funded by the army, in return for 3 more years of service.
The problematic people are generally filtered down to places where they'll be less dangerous, there are several units dedicated to people like this, so they end up with less intensive service doing what they can.
Women are generally drafted into different roles; training a conscript army with a high turnover rate requires instructors, and many are women; a lot of systems operators are women, as are a lot of desk jockeys-women are not bad at dealing with paperwork and such.
With the rate the IDF replaces its main force, there are some tards who get to places that they never should have, but only the relatively good guys get to sign for more as professional soldiers.
Another great aspect of the IDFs structure is that commanders are expected to do nearly everthing their subordinates are- the guiding motto of OCS is "ממני ראו וכן תעשו"- watch and follow. So you don't have as many sadistic DIs, as they have to go on the marches and so forth.
The IDF is far from the perfect place to serve, and there have been times when I hated it and every second there, but it isn't as bad as you might think from hearing "conscript army".
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>>30613154
A lot of the women here are sluts, particularly in the Tel Aviv area they'd probably fug you uncut, but if you're looking for marriage you'd probably need to convert.
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>>30613716
Odd, we have flips here. They're not exactly rare, she might just have been an idiot.
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I'm amazed no one has posted the famous flying Israeli tanks.
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>>30614027
Yes, volunteering from around the world. Generally if you're fit and morivated you'll get into a combat unit, which is full of auto firepower, and when you're off duty you'll probably be hosted somewhere were you can go out and try.
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> Any notable conscripts effect significant change in the IDF...?
Please repeat the question. Not sure I understood.
> conscription leads to a sizeable measure of good compared to volunteers.
Usually no, but out of necessity, the IDF got as close as possible for such a massive, clunky, body to strking the balance between what pros can conscription offer (larger manpower variety) and what pros can profesionnal army offer (setting high training stardarts), while minimazing the cons of both. It's not perfect, but it's enough to be considered valid when compared to profesional armies.
> I understand it's necessary
Exactly. All that you see in Israel, is the result of the need to survive, creative minds and low budget.
> volunteer force of the same size would it not be better?
Too hard too tell. Perhaps, I guess. Professional army has it in the name: professional.
> Israel is kinda special too. That Zionist patriotism runs deep
That's an important point as well. People greatly underestimate how significant moral is. We all saw what good equipment and good training is worth without moral when the Iraqi army faced ISIS. In Israel, the army, and the service, are admired.
There're programs for teens that peepers them for the army. People pay lots of money for this, spend entire summer vacations and days off school to make upside down crawls up dunes with wights on them. The army employs social programs and voluntary work for communities, all good work places require full service, some work places require service in specific units... Not in vain we say "it's not a country that has an army, it's an army that has a country".
This, and this alone, is what allows the IDF to exist in the way I described in the other sections. Same thing wouldn't work somewhere else.

***All I said was said through rose-tinted glasses. Take it with a grain of salt and the truth will be somewhere in the middle***
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>>30616573
It's a carbine length barrel and gas system, not sawn off.
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>>30612980
>no one does that

jesus, fuck.
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>>30616870
Another picture: this is why conscription works in Israel: you got a country dedicated to the army. By the time this kids will recruit, they'll be able to run along a seasoned soldier with equipment on them. Being younger, they might outrun him.

>>30613093
>>30613043
>>30613005
>>30613126
Ayo, this is Israel we're talking about: Middle-Eastern/Mediterranean country where flip flops are considered a legit thing. The bar is probably located on the beach line, and who goes to the beach without flip flops?

>>30612868
Yes.

>>30613215
> Israel
> IDF
> Jews
> Tavor
> IWI
Might as well start placing trigger warnings in the headline.
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>>30616851
And I fucking quote
>Flips are Asian? I thought they were monkeys.
Racist Jewish/Israeli woman are a trip.
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>>30616908
Sat ehat you want, the IDF learns from experience. And experince has shown that retards ND if it's too easy to do it absentmindedly. IMO weapons training should be given more attention so morons don't play around any more, but the IDF in its wisdom decided that using mechanical means to solve its problems is easier than revamping training procedures.
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>>30616942
God damn
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>>30616975
As a racist spic I found her fun as hell.
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>>30616887
It's an M16A1 m8, I served for quite a while with it as my personal weapon
The lowers and uppers are Vietnam/post Vietnam era, the furniture is replaced for carbine length and if you get one with an old enough barell then it wasn't carbine length out of the factory, the armouries here did some p. Horrific niggerrigging back in the day
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>>30617189
Me too. The point is it isn't sawn-off, it's factory-made carbine length, or had the original barrel replaced with a carbine one. Sawn off implies the barrel itself was Bubba'd, which they weren't.
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>>30617215
>Sawn off implies the barrel itself was Bubba'd, which they weren't

The original "short m16s" as we call them here were, which is what I'm telling you
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>>30617228
Never seen one myself, all the ones I saw had factory barrels. But ok.
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>>30616942
Lmao I had a Jewish friend who's mom we pulled a prank on. We were at his house after school and were talking about "George's new girlfriend" knowing his mom would overhear then pulled up this black chick on Facebook and showed her. She flipped and yelled "Georgie why you date neeeegar?!" in her Israeli accent and just went on an absolute rant in heebish. We tried to say it was a joke but she thought we were covering for him. Even called his dad on the phone and yelled "Maurice Georgie is dating neeeeegarrrr!!!! Where did we go wrong?!" Goddamn, good times.
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>>30611421
But you're talking about a level of unemployment that will make the great depression look like a mild recession. Unless you give people a safety net crime is gonna skyrocket.
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>>30616493
There's no shortage of retards in any military and the world in general. If we had soldiers in the us walk around with their rifles this would make sense.
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>>30613140

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>boards.4chan.org/pol

and stay there. Pretty odd how you mouth breathers immediately support anything anti-muslim until it's duh jooz that are "removing kebab"
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>>30611153
Nigger the air-raid sirens go off several times per day in Israel and about 50 rockets get shot down DAILY.
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>>30617807
Sometimes true, not in the past 3/4 of a year tho.
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>>30617824
just sayin, who knows when were the pics taken
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>>30617845
saw it posted on a big israeli page on normiebook in 2013/14.
t.heeb
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>>30616942

top kek

Everyone knows that Flips are Sea Mexicans though.
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>>30616333
>other people's land
1. This is the territory of the kingdom of Israel
2. Their right was reaffirmed by a modern UN vote
3. They defended their right in war against huge odds and won creating a 1st world country
Most countries including yours have only one of those justifications, they have all 3. You are either a muslim or a leftcuck which makes human garbage either way.
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>>30611629
>Racking the charging handle
But according to the movies you need to rack the charging handle 2 or 3 times when you're getting ready for a gunfight.
or if you just need to look badass and menacing for the cameras
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>>30617977

>you have received $0.01 from [email protected]
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>>30618101
Not him, but you are pulling a "sins of your father" arguement, which is 100% absolute bullshit.

Isreal has defended its land, even before US involvement. Its theirs, by all rights.
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>>30617977
fire up the ovens.
fill the gas chambers.
gather up all the kikes.
6 million more.
We Can do it!
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>>30618116
>Its theirs, by all rights.
that's fucking zionist bullshit and everyone knows it
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>>30618116
>might is right
Yeah, fuck those Palestinian schools and hospitals. /s

If the West stopped giving aid to Israel it'd disappear in less than a year.
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>>30618131
/pol/ is leaking again
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>>30618133
No, its not.

Am i, a texan, to give my land back to mexico?

>>30618143
See above.

Its has gone far beyond might. Historically and legally, its theirs.

I just focus on the might because god damn they faced some impossible odds.
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>>30616429

The reason given is not why this is done.
This has nothing to do with ND prevention.

These are political, they are to show the "non threatening" aspect of these guns being out in society.

The average citizens have come to know that a gun in this condition is "safe" and they begin to not even notice them after a while.

It's more social engineering than gun safety.
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>>30618163
Texas seceded into the US.

You kikes invaded a sovereign nation and somehow managed to manipulate half the world into backing you. Again, if the US stopped shipping pallets of money to Israel it would be gone in an instant.
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>>30618198
Im not a jew, nor isralie.

>Texas seceded into the US.

And? Is US to give up its war gains to mexico?
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>>30618163
>deluded kikes
how much in internet payments do you usually receive from the JIDF foundation for parroting this zionist bullshit?
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>>30617977
>1st world country
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>>30618228
>nevermind how Sikes-Picot and zionism is probably 95% of the cause behind "terrorists" from the M.E. wanting to destroy the western world
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>>30618222
>Im not a jew, nor isralie.
Oh, so you're just on their bankroll then?

>And? Is US to give up its war gains to mexico?
Does modern day Texas keep mexican citizens penned up in clusterfuck of a limbo state?

Does Texas drop WP bombs on Mexico? If they did, do you think the world would ignore it?

Did Texas have an established lobby in the US government when they seceded?

Did Texas' secession destabilize en entire transcontinental region and fuel the hatred of many people in the region towards the rest of the world?
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>>30616828
>>30616870

Wow, thanks anons. Appreciate the thoughtful replies you jewfags I learned a good bit.
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>>30612801
Because it also lets other people see that the gun is unloaded at a glance.

Safety and perception.
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>>30618228
>defending those who have earned their clay

Zero, i do it for free.

>>30618256

All completely irrelevent.

Texas did defeat the armys mexico sent to reclaim clay, and kept its war gains. The US did the same.

Hell, a large portion of the US wants to wall off mexico from itself.

Isreal, time and time again, defended itself from the arabs. The land was given by the previous owner who defended clay from the arabs.

To say Israel does not deserve their land that they bled for, that is now historically theirs for genorations, that is legally theirs by every single legal body that ever took up the case, is akin to you saying that america should give back is clay to mexico.

Frankly, that pisses me off. The arabs cant win in court, cant turn back time, and cant defeat them. The land is not theirs.
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>>30618292
damn, now that is sexy.
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>>30618474
>All completely irrelevent.
No it's not. Israel has schemed it's way into existence at the expense of basically the entire world and I'm not going to argue with a filthy fucking JIDF kike anymore.
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>>30618574
Again, im not a kike, and hell even if i was my points do not lose relevency.

No, its not relevent. Lots of nations shit on their neighbors, it does not mean their land is not theirs. That is the most asinine point you could ever make.

They have earned that land, just as much as my forefathers earned theirs.
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>>30611516
Jewbro I've never admitted this on /k/ or on 4chins before. But I'm 1/16th German Jewish. What is Israel like?
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>>30618603
If all the weeaboos collectively migrated to Japan, used political influence to get massive support in money and weapons, killed most of the locals, viciously oppressed any that survived all so they can call the land "theirs", would you support them? Again you're only argument is
>might makes right
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>>30618630
>>30618603
>>30618574
Discuss this shit over at /pol/, seriously. It's funny watching two outsiders that don't know shit about the region and it's history arguing, keep your fucking noses out for fucks sake.
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>>30618630

Are you seriously asking me if all the japs were dead, would the land be Japanese?

That example is not even actually relevent.

A better one would be if, after WWII, the US gave the weebs a portion of conquered japan. Then, japan got assmad and tried to take it back after the US left, and go absolutely asswrecked.

Then, they tried again, then again, and lost every single time. Early on, on their own, later with allied help. They got pissed, built a wall, and shit on the japs every now and again because fuck them.

Would the land be the weebs? You bet your ass it would be.

Should the US give back the midwest to the Indians, because i should feel bad that my forefathers genocided the fuck out of them? Fuck. No.
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>>30613093
This poster is correct
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>>30610602
>He cant carry in a bar in the shit stats hes in
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>>30613126
The flapping noise is hot though
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>>30613205
Do you have to be jewish?
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>>30618655
>Are you seriously asking me if all the japs were dead, would the land be Japanese?
No, I'm asking if a level-headed un-indoctrinated person would look at the situation and say that was "right".

>That example is not even actually relevent.
You keep saying this but you're not showing it.

>A better one would be if, after WWII, the US gave the weebs a portion of conquered japan. Then, japan got assmad and tried to take it back after the US left, and go absolutely asswrecked.
>might makes right

>Then, they tried again, then again, and lost every single time. Early on, on their own, later with allied help. They got pissed, built a wall, and shit on the japs every now and again because fuck them.
>might makes right

>Would the land be the weebs? You bet your ass it would be.
>might makes right

>Should the US give back the midwest to the Indians, because i should feel bad that my forefathers genocided the fuck out of them? Fuck. No.
>might makes right
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>>30618474
>sliding this hard

>>30618644
>just ignore what's happening lmao
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>>30618779
>let's shitpost about it, it'll definitely change it lmao
>let's give a like to queersforpalestine while we're at it lmao
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>>30618792
>let's complain about shitposting, that'll definitely stop it
>let's make strawmen while were at it, that'll convince everybody
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>>30611205
It is a safety flag. Shows the chamber is empty. If it is like the hotnady one. Grab it and pull back, it ejects and a live round is loaded.

The other thing is a magwell block. It shows there is no loaded magazine in the gun. But it conveniently holds a loaded magazine.


It may take your 10 seconds to respond to an event , but at least your armed with a rifle
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>>30618804
Listen here fuckface, this thread was going pretty well without all the political shit that you brought here. Now lets make something clear, you don't know shit about the region as evident by your previous posts. so why should I, as an Israeli take a foreign fuck seriously when he tries to talk shit at the expense of my countrymen lives? Just fuck off to /pol/, that's where you can have a nice ecochamber for your rethoric without being interrupted. and jerk on the crusades while you're at it.
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>>30618844
>Listen here fuckface, this thread was going pretty well without all the political shit that you brought here.
I didn't bring up the conversation.

>Now lets make something clear, you don't know shit about the region as evident by your previous posts.
Really? Which posts are mine and why are they wrong?

> so why should I, as an Israeli take a foreign fuck seriously when he tries to talk shit at the expense of my countrymen lives?
Because your conversing with people all over the world and as a result are exposed to ideas that don't agree with your own. Maybe you would be better suited to a nice safe space where nobody can offend you?

>Just fuck off to /pol/, that's where you can have a nice ecochamber for your rethoric without being interrupted. and jerk on the crusades while you're at it.
Most of /pol/ is stupid and I don't jerk off to the crusades.
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>>30616665
Digs died.
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>>30618876
What a dense fucking cunt, you're the pali bootlicker that posts "might make right" over and over. Guess what? Not a fucking argument.
You know why I brought up the death of my countrymen in recent terror attacks? because you seem to sympothize with innocent civies, but hypocritically enough only with civies from one side.
Palis aren't native to the region, the absolute majority came here from the surrounding countries during the ottoman rule. Jews kept a noticeable presence here throughout history and that's a fact.
You know who denied the right to own land? The palis themselves, when they attacked us at 48 before even singing the fucking treaty to make it officially their land. Now how fucking stupid would you have to be to do that kind of shit? You don't know shit, you haven't seen shit IRL, but you do talk a lot of shit( in the most literal way possible since it's all baselesss shit you saw on an infographic on a facebook page). The situation isn't fucking simple and can't be solved by two assholes arguing on the internet, that's why I suggest you go back to sucking cock while I go back to doing something productive.Thanks, and fuck off.
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>>30618936
Were you the one pretending to be from Texas?

>What a dense fucking cunt, you're the pali bootlicker that posts "might make right" over and over. Guess what? Not a fucking argument.
Half right, I'm not a palestinian and I'm not an authoritarian. Now tell me, if that's not an argument, what am I arguing?

>You know why I brought up the death of my countrymen in recent terror attacks? because you seem to sympothize with innocent civies, but hypocritically enough only with civies from one side.
I know that terrorist attacks happen on both sides, but in America there's a saying that goes "two wrongs don't make a
>right

>Palis aren't native to the region, the absolute majority came here from the surrounding countries during the ottoman rule. Jews kept a noticeable presence here throughout history and that's a fact.
I'm not disagreeing with you, but by that logic whatever animal crawled out of the primordial soup would be the only one who "owns" the land

If 2 jews and 1 "pali" live somewhere does that mean that all the land belongs to the Jews?
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>>30618936
>>30619029
>You know who denied the right to own land? The palis themselves, when they attacked us at 48 before even singing the fucking treaty to make it officially their land.
Both sides are scum if you ask me.

>Now how fucking stupid would you have to be to do that kind of shit? You don't know shit, you haven't seen shit IRL.
Interesting sentiment, but how do you know that? Or are you just making ad hominems because you're frustrated.

>but you do talk a lot of shit( in the most literal way possible since it's all baselesss shit you saw on an infographic on a facebook page).
I talk literal shit? What does that mean? I haven't read any infographics on the coniflt and I don't have a Facebook so no.

>The situation isn't fucking simple and can't be solved by two assholes arguing on the internet,
Pretty much nothing can be, but that's not the reason why people talk on the internet. It's called discussion.

> that's why I suggest you go back to sucking cock while I go back to doing something productive.
>browsing 4chan
>"productive"
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>>30612896
Thank you fer ur service
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>>30618844
Quiet kike. Quit pushing america into war then bitching every time. You hooked nose sand niggers should be glassed to preserve the water that religion wastes
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>>30619029
>pretending

And if i post my Texas ID (censored, of course) what will you do?

>>30618711

You are conflating two different issues.

What is "right", and if Israel should give back its lands.

If you are asking if conquered people get a bad deal? Yes, they do. Is it *right* what happens to those conquered people? It all depends on your viewpoint, of course. Was what happened to the Indians *right*? I would argue no.

But does that mean i will ever give my land up to an indian because of something my great grandpa did to his? Fuck no.

Now, should people of today suffer the sins of their ancestors? No.
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>>30619211
>BTFO you
>kike appears
>BTFO kike
>you appear
hmm..

>And if i post my Texas ID (censored, of course) what will you do?
probably think you're a jew living in Texas, but don't let that stop you.

>What is "right", and if Israel should give back its lands.
I never said Israel should simply give back its lands and I don't really think it's reasonable now.

>Now, should people of today suffer the sins of their ancestors? No.
I agree with you.

Answer me this. Should the rest of the world support Israel considering what they've done and what they continue to do?
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>but why do you NEED to carry around an assault rifle with you?
>because I live in fucking Israel

I want to live in a warzone.
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>>30619258
I don't want to spoil your fun fellow /k/ommando but the kike said he's gonna do something productive with his life.

Maybe you should accept that sometimes people get tired of arguing with retards online and they go on with their lives.

Wish I could say the same tbqh.
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>>30619258
>thinking in terms of BTFO vs Not BTFO

sigh..

>probably think you're a jew living in Texas

Wew lad. So am i now free to assume you are a asshurt arab then, if you think im a kike? ( i would post my last name too, but it will 100% lead to me being doxed, because it is very unique and very anglo) Fair is fair.

>I never said Israel should simply give back its lands and I don't really think it's reasonable now.

Then we are in agreement there.

>Should the rest of the world support Israel considering what they've done and what they continue to do?

Wew, that is a question with a fuckton of facets. Is their actions worth losing their geopolitical alliance? (please, no tinfoil about shit, just for the sake of argument if you believe it)

Like, for example, turkey. Turkey is a shitty state, but holy fuck is it strategically important, so i am in support of keeping turkey supported.
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>>30619326
You missed the point.

And for how much anons complain about arguing with idiots on the internet they sure do browse a place where people do exclusively that a lot.
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>>30613906
You were dropped on your head, weren't you? Ediot.
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>>30619362
>sigh..
It's a concise way of conveying a nuanced meaning.

>Wew lad. So am i now free to assume you are a asshurt arab then, if you think im a kike?
You're free to assume whatever you'd like but for what it's worth I think the middle east should be left to itself all the arabs to kill each other.

>Wew, that is a question with a fuckton of facets. Is their actions worth losing their geopolitical alliance? (please, no tinfoil about shit, just for the sake of argument if you believe it)
That's the thing, Israel is inexplicably supported around the world for..? Because of the holocaust? That's another "sins of our fathers". Israel doesn't provide much considering how much aid it receives, which makes me wonder why exactly. I'm not full on tinfoil, but from what I've read and what I've seen it does seem like Israel has an awful lot of political influence in our country.
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>>30619420
>Israel is inexplicably supported around the world for..?

Their geopolitical location, and govermental stance in a region full of eastern bloc supported states.

For what its worth, the Isralies need to lay off the MUH 7 MILLION shit. I guess its good for internal propaganda, but fuck its annoying.
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>>30619420

Oh, too add

>what I've seen it does seem like Israel has an awful lot of political influence in our country.

The saudis have far, far more.
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>>30619459
>Their geopolitical location, and govermental stance in a region full of eastern bloc supported states.

And..? What good does that do for the average US citizen? Why should I care about left over Cold War dick waggling between Russia and NATO?

>>30619469
>The saudis have far, far more.
The Saudis have things we want though, namely oil.
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>>30619503

to put it bluntly "it's an island of democracy in a sea of shit"
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>>30619503
>What good does that do for the average US citizen?

Isolationism, as history showed, does not help the citizens of its country.

>Why should I care about left over Cold War dick waggling between Russia and NATO?

Because being the uncontested world police has many advantages.

>>30619503
>The Saudis have things we want though, namely oil.

That they do.
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>>30617457
It's possible to hate more than one ethnic group, anon.
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>>30619516
I've never heard of Israel seriously being described as a democracy.

>>30619516
>Isolationism, as history showed, does not help the citizens of its country.
I'm not arguing for isolationism.

>Because being the uncontested world police has many advantages.
For whom? Politicians? And I'm not convinced that the amount of effort that is pumped into Israel reaches the point of breaking even on being worth it. It seems like these rationalizations are made after the fact, considering Israel was created before the Cold War.
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>>30611318
but they still have to fuck with their guns cus they aren't loaded
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>>30619567
>For whom?

Economically? You and me (assumeing you live in the Us)
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>>30618292
Airsoft
CYMA rpk cm.052
Unfortunate
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>>30619516
Fuck you, Israel destabilized my country and made it shit. Before Israel, the muslims, jews, and christians lived relatively peacefully in Lebanon.
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>>30611516
what is the point of putting a bullet in the bullet flag? wouldn't it just penetrate through the flag and defeat the purpose of having one? Or is that the joke, and the picture isn't serious?
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>>30622719
It's not a bullet. It simulates the rear end of a casing so you will be able to eject the flag by pulling the charging handle.
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>>30616942
Flipfag here, more like jungle monkeys.

Also, why do foreigners have shit taste in Filipina girls? They like them exotic or some shit.
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>>30612896
What do you call it faggot? A platform? Fuck off to your autistic chris costa and buck yeager videos you fucking cunt.
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>>30623020
Look at this sexy thing. Male of female, he/she is hot as fuck. I'd hit it hard, yes-homo.
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>>30613872
Fuck you kike
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>>30611605
You can't open carry in Israel unless you're part of the IDF. These are conscripts in plain clothes.
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>>30617977
You don't need to be a lefty or a muslim to think isreal is a shit hole the world would be better off without.
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>>30610645
love the gun, hate the shoes
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>>30625170
Can Russia please nuke Sweden once and for all?
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>>30618222
Does the US require contain aid to fight a never ending war with Mexico to hold on to Texas?

No? Then no.
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>giving IDF shit for using rapid rack tool

don't the yanks have discharge buckets they fire into before going to mess or whatnot to be sure their firearms are unloaded?
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>>30612896
>being this butthurt about someone calling a gun, a gun
Who cares, m8? I'm lower enlisted scum tho
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>>30625369
They're Americans you dipshit. I'd go gay to get in their little tight twink buttholes.
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>>30625398
>what is a chamber check?
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>>30625398
They have hobbit bodies. Would gas.
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>>30625824
People still discharge in clearing barrels quite a bit.
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>>30625170
>>30625125
>>30625103
Holy shit.....would smash all of them....god damn if I ever saw a hot little piece of gay ass like that, i'd go straight faggot all over that ass.
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>>30625830
>not wanting to manhandle a shortstack in the sack

what are you some kind of feminist?
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>>30626003
I don't mind short girls but tehy have no hips....
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>>30626450
hips aren't needed for sex
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>>30626642
is this a fucking recruitment poster?? sign me up!
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>>30612980
>it would be retarded to have retards walking around that close to chambering a round

Lmao look everyone, he thinks people dont carry condition zero
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>>30612896
How can he be a NEET, a faggot, and a POG at the same time.

NEET and POG are mutually exclusive.
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>>30611453
>A secure way to carry a gun and a magazine together but not loaded
How about carrying the gun and a magazine together but not loading it?
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>>30611516
>annihilation
Jews lived with Muslims in that same area for 500 fucking years no problems, you fags even went to war against Christians WITH the Muslims in the 12th century.
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