http://pastebin.com/EZCrqG5n
Didn't see one so took it upon myself to keep these going.
Anyone in Southern Ontario take the PAL course before?
Thinking about going for mine in August. Already got an idea of what I am to suspect but anything else I should know?
>i own a type 97
>>30607969
Ive heard that the stigma for gun owners is crazy there. Apparently a little girl mentioned in school that her dad owned a gun and his house was literally raided by Toronto police.
>>30607969
i did mine in windsor a 2 years ago
look on the rcmp website for the most recent books , they are free if you dont mind a pdf ..
for the written portion, its alot of common sense shit ( dont put a 3" shell in a 2" shotgun , know your target and whats beyond it , ect) , memorize the the maximum ranges, best carry positions,how to store transport
for the practical
Remember ACTS , PROVE , dont muzzle sweep or point at yourself, instructor, or anyone else
I would HIGHLY recommend doing both your restricted and non restricted at the same time. Its not that much extra work and will save you money and time if you choose to get it later
what's the law on 3D printing guns here?
>>30608301
she drew a picture of her dad with a gun that he uses to "kill monsters"
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/mcguinty-defends-school-that-reported-gun-picture-1.1199868
the guy didn't even own a gun
>>30608352
depends on what your printing
N/R , no problem
R , call CFO within 30days and register
>>30607969
Do what >>30608346
Says. I didn't get my RPAL with my PAL and I regretted it. But yeah the test is easy, the course is kind of boring though.
>making a gun out plastic
>>30608405
isn't ABS pretty good though?
>>30608393
>>30608346
Thanks, my father was failed on his practical back in the 90's
>Talking with other classmates with rifles relaxed pointing to ground
>Fathers rifle was pointing 30 degrees to ground
>Instructor intentionally walks by
>Chews out father about how he just muzzle swept him and fails him for the day
>Has to go back next week for practical again
Had to give up his guns when I was young when my Mother divorced because she lied to the police that he was planning on killing her.
She is the definition of Batshit crazy feminist.
>>30608529
that sounds like a weird as fuck practical
when i did mine a couple years ago they took two people at a time to do their practicals, there was no point where there'd be a bunch of us standing around with guns during it or anything like that
When I did the test, the practical was just clearing a couple guns, finding appropriate ammo by comparing headstamps, and explaining how I would cross a fence (didn't have to actually do it, just explain how I would).
Shit was super easy
When picking up the ammo, read the headstamp and don't forget to read the sticker of the caliber that is supposed to go in the gun you need to load. The sticker should be on the barrel or near the action of the gun. That was how my instructors had the guns set up anyway.
>>30608609
It was northern Ontario around Midland.
They were at a outdoor range.
>>30606088
>Jeez, how slow is the Ontario CFO with these transfers?
Last week it was 3h the average for me is 2-3days. Longest was 7 days.
Transfers between provinces tend to take longer as well.
>>30609078
why would you do pal training at a range?
>>30609102
I have one coming from Alberta and another from here in Ontario. Hopefully I get some news about it tomorrow or Friday. They send emails right? I hope they didn't fuck up my email. Anyway of calling and checking the status of a transfer?
Any Military here?
I am thinking about joining the Canadian forces at some point and just had a few questions.
>What branch is most decent
When I was younger I had dreams of being a fighter pilot in the Airforce but I honestly don't think I have the Autism nesessary to make it in flight school.
When I was younger I was in the Sea Cadets and they always told us about how Navy was the way to go. I didn't stay in until I was 18 so I lost my chance of the Naval perks associated with that (I should have stayed desu)
Army I hear is filled with trailer trash from Port Dover to Dartmouth. I am a very reserved, disciplined guy, feel I have the demenor for military, but I am pretty out of shape and got a shitty Nerve Disease (I pinch nerves easy and lose feeling in limbs) so the amount of activity required for Army would probably be my downfall.
There is Military Police which I hear is a pretty decent Job.
And Coast Guard, which I hear is also pretty good.
I wish Canada had a Marine Corps.
Anyone got insight into any of these?
>Aspiring Operator
I want to Operate. I think I have what it takes to at least try out training.
What I hear about JTF-2 is you need 2-3 years in forces to apply for the SF training and then it is a whole ballpark from there.
Do the Canadian Military Police have a Special Operations force similar to FBI SWAT?
Any insight would be appreciated. Serious answers would be appreciated.
>>30609251
You have to ask each time for an email copy, i've only had it once in 7 transfers where they've asked me.
Otherwise you can call in the transfer number again and they can tell you if its approved yet or not.
>>30609172
Was not me
>1990's
>Buttfuck nowhere Ontario
why not?
>>30609255
go navy if you want, then you could go MTOG to "operate"
https://player.vimeo.com/video/159550331
>>30609274
because you could literally do it in any room or location anywhere, why not just do it in an empty office or something
I've posted before in this thread about my issue, its the 6+ months waiting for my RPAL renewal anon. It was suggested I call the ombudsmen of my province, BC, to get some help with my situation. The ombudsmen can not do anything with Federal government, but they suggested that I file a complaint with the Civilian Complaint Commission that investigates the RCMP and contact my local MP. I did both, the commissions returned my phone call and stated there is not much they can do with it, its technically not a complaint they can investigate, its just that I am waiting far longer than I should. My local MP has not gotten back to me but is fine.
I still have every reason to be paranoid and nervous about my case as I understand that 6+ months past your PAL expiration is in violation of law and would require to you go through the whole process again. But the fact that I am in violation of the law, they could put a 24hour noticed on me for an inspection and I am afraid of becoming a paper criminal when they do their search with a fine tooth comb. I do not want this, I just want what is, in my eyes, promised to me. I've had my RPAL previously for a number of years and I renewed my RPAL a month prior to expiration, so there should be no cause for concern. Like previous times.
Now I will be calling the CFO once again to inquire why it is taking so long. Is there any advice anyone can give me here with dealing directly to any CFO officers or if possible, another route to take.
>>30609424
what does the cfo say when you ask them?
this is very strange, BC is one of the best provinces for this, I have two friends who got their renewals within a month.
Do they not explain themselves at all when you call in?
>>30609503
Nope just that I have to wait. If I try to push the matter, the CFO is out of the office for the moment. If I ask again, there are others ahead of it and I will just have to wait. If I ask if there is anything they are waiting on, range membership, a photo or anything. They just say no, they have everything.
It's been like that every time I call. I can't call every day or every week with my work, so I do it once a month, in the middle of the month on a Wednesday. Like today.
>>30608352
Totally legal to manufacture your own firearm for personal use (no gifts, no sales). This goes for machining as well as printing.
Don't manufacture anything prohibited and you're fine. If it's restricted, contact the RCMP BEFORE you start the build and register it.
>>30608405
Completely viable.
>>30608421
There are better polymers out there, but if your choice is between ABS and PLA, go with the ABS.
In a completely hypothetical scenario fuelled by /k/ommando tears, in which major bans/restrictions are announced, what's the best way to keep my Restricteds. Just fake a burglary and hide them? Because like hell I'm giving up the guns I worked hard for.
>>30609872
Boating accident.
>PVC pipe, end caps, 30w motor oil
>Dig hole
>Bury
>Plead the 5th
>>30609917
I don't think that'd fly, especially for Restricteds. plus I'd hate to muck it up and have my guns rust away.
>>30610030
>Rust
>In 30w oil
Well, I see you're smrt.
>>30608609
My practical was 1 on 1 and very relaxed. BC here. Pick up the single action/glock/shotgun, prove it, what would you do if you came across a fence in the woods while carrying, don't point the gun at me or you fail, pick up the ammunition for the gun you're holding, stuff like that. Just pay attention and it's easy.
I was nervous and scored 100 on the written and the practical.
>>30610070
No, I mean if I screw up the process and the oil leaks out or something. I dunno. I just figured that faking a burglary would be easier and less suspicious.
>>30609424
Are you fucking the CFO's ex wife or something m8?
>>30610167
Well if you faked a burglary, you'd still need to hide the guns anon...
>>30609917
>pleading the 5th in Canada
Does the 28 day waiting period start when the RCMP gets your application, or is it when you take your CFSC or something different?
>>30610180
Well, yeah, but I have family who have no guns and will let me store them there. I just figure a burglary is more plausible, since I don't own a boat, and would never need to use one to lawfully transport Restricteds.
>>30610224
When they receive your application.
>>30609917
>yea Mr.RCMP, I was on the way from my house to the range and the most direct route involved me taking a boat across Lake Ontario and then I lost my guns.
>>30610277
Damn I've got money burning a hole in my pocket.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KJPP7GkuPU
>>30610338
Lots of places will let you buy and will hold till you get your PAL but I would only do this for something uncommon.
>>30610360
That's interesting. I'll just wait, I'm not getting anything exotic or hard to find. I'm just eager to get into this new hobby. I'm bored.
>>30608301
They certainly are, I'm from Waterloo (the good city out of Kitchener-Waterloo) where that story is from that >>30608368 mentions. All of southern Ontario is a write off when it comes to funs. No crown land to shoot on without a couple hours drive north. liberal shills run amok in the containment zone that is Toronto/GTA, Toronto outright banned gun ranges so there are very slim pickings.
>>30608368
>not having a gun for killing monsters
>>30610696
my monster killing gun
>>30610187
Not him, but do we have a legal equivalent?
>>30610696
What-what's going on with that handguard?
>>30610737
the right to not self incriminate
>>30610749
Honestly I have no idea, not mine. Just saw it in /arg/ awhile ago and figured the inscription was very relevant to the horror story above.
>>30610750
I was under the assumption it isn't as strong as the 5th due to:
Section 13 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is a section of the Charter which, along with section 11 (c), specifies rights regarding self-incrimination.
It reads:
13. A witness who testifies in any proceedings has the right not to have any incriminating evidence so given used to incriminate that witness in any other proceedings, except in a prosecution for perjury or for the giving of contradictory evidence.
Rights against self-incrimination had existed in Canadian law even before the Charter, but these applied to cases in which an individual might incriminate him or herself while giving testimony in another person's trial. Since the enactment of the Charter, the right has been extended in case law in regard to retrials, to exclude from one's retrial self-incriminating evidence if it had been obtained during cross examination in the last trial.[1]
This section serves a similar purpose as the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution, but does not provide witnesses the same opportunity to excuse themselves from testifying.
>>30610789
if i understand right, if your called as a witness any info you give incriminating yourself cannot be used against you. ie: i was snorting lines of coke of a lady of the night when i saw the accused shoot Mr.Guy.
But if you are accused, you have the ability to not take the stand at your trial.
>>30610835
That is also my understanding. Makes sense in regards to perjury trials too. Although the word "other" is unclear to me.
...have any incriminating evidence so given used to incriminate that witness in any OTHER proceedings...
Does this mean that it can be used to incriminate the witness for the current proceedings?
So for our example if Mr Shooter was on trial for shooting Mr Guy and a third party, Mr Doe testifies with the example " ie: i was snorting lines of coke off a lady of the night when i saw the accused shoot Mr.Guy." that testimony would be inadmissible for trying Mr Doe with possession of controlled substance etc. However, if Mr Doe was being tried for possession in an unrelated scenario and he told the same story, that would be admissible and self incriminating. So Section 13 does not exempt you from testifying? Why you would testify against yourself I'm unsure, but just trying to wrap my head around all the legalese.
>>30610987
that scenario sounds about right. i think it was meant to encourage witnesses and to testify. If the only way to put Mr.Shooter behind bars was to incriminate myself, maybe i wouldnt do it. With the law, i can 'incriminate' myself without fear of being charged
>disclaimer, this should not be taken as legal advice. Get a Lawyer for that
Found someone selling a globeco 555
Should I?
>>30611308
why do people chop stocks off when they sporterize shit? what's the point?
>>30611096
Yeah that makes sense, I guess that's why the lawyers make big bucks since the jargon is familiar to them and all that.
>>30611330
I may put in a SVT stock if its doable.
>>30611344
>>30611330
im really curious though, why do they do this??????????????
>>30611371
Maked the rifle more useful for the targeted sales at the time.
>>30611394
what? how would it make it more useful? why does having a more vulnerable barrel help anything especially if your'e dragging it through the bush hunting
>>30611402
Not him but useful for targeted sales doesn't mean objectively more useful, just useful marketing because it's lighter maybe, I don't know.
>>30611425
>a 10 gram piece of wood
this is why i don't get it, does anyone know?
>>30611431
More like 2lbs but whatever.
>>30610722
What muzzle break you got there?
>>30611442
>a tiny piece of wood weighs 2 lbs
the entire stock doesnt even weigh two lbs let alone 5% of it
>>30611449
i have no clue, sorry, a friend gave it to me
>>30608095
Yeah, whachu gon do bout it?
>>30611459
probably fuck you judging by that pic ;)
>>30611443
Look closely at bottom of pic, Toronto PD site can download the whole report should you feel inclined.
pic unrelated
www.torontopolice.on.ca/publications/files/reports/2012statsreport.pdf
>You will never own a makarov because the barrel is just half an inch too short
>tfw Russian made makarov's would probably run like $150 over here
I just want a dick grip gun in glorified .380
>>30611480
Shit, could you imagine how much of a shitfling libs would throw if the fact that the VZ-58 is non-restricted and relatively affordable was common knowledge outside of the gun community?
>>30611673
Missed out on getting one in 9x18 a few days ago, they exist albeit more rare than the .380 version.
>>30611673
I'm sure somebody could buy a bunch of 'em and put longer barrels in then sell them for a little more. There are those baikal ones here that are like that.
>>30611330
Not the same wood as an SVT. They used their own stocks.
>>30611344
It would require a bit of modification.
>>30611308
Oh, what are they asking? They aren't exactly rare, there just isn't much market for them.
>>30611957
450+ship
>>30611712
Yeah I don't know how more chilluns aren't being gunned down with that thing still on the market.
>>30611922
There is also this abomination if you want to feel like the cucked version of Bond for whatever reason.
when are type 81s hitting the market bros?
what will be the going price on these items?
>>30612265
They are hitting around September, and I think around a 1000 dollars.
>>30612265
Same as the last million times people have asked
As early as September, $1000
>>30612232
I don't think it's that bad desu. It's not as cool as the real thing, but if it's a decent price I'd grab one.
>>30612316
I get making the best out of a bad situation, but I can't believe there isn't a little bit of Stockholm Syndrome going on here.
I'm starting to think I'm fucked or there is some kind of investigation against me. Seems like there is nothing related to my situation I can look into or find anyone willing to help.
If I get fucked over and get charged with something, I'll be raising hell for our rights, even if it bankrupts me.
>>30612560
Can you go in person to the CFO's office? Try to make an appointment? The mystery is killing me senpai. I feel for you.
>you will never own a Fort 12 for the same reasons, plus the Ukrainian Civil War
We'll never be STALKERs. ;_;
>>30613081
Looks like a BHP and a CZ75 had a baby. That is not a bad thing.
>>30612560
Remove all contraband from your house. No drugs anywhere, make sure there's nothing sketchy on USB drives laying around your house, encrypt all of your disks and secure delete any files that could land you in trouble. If you ever bought anything that may possibly have been stolen (far too cheap, bought it from a crackhead, etc) and could conceivably be identified (serial number, came with unusual stickers/markings) get rid of it. Don't take any chances.
Sometimes cops get frustrated when they think you did something bad but they have zero evidence, so they dig deep trying to nail you with ANYTHING. Tunnel vision happens in investigations, don't give them anything to work with and with any luck they'll find the real culprit and leave you alone.
If you're the guy from BC worried about not getting his PAL renewed, I wouldn't worry so much. You did you due diligence and can't really be charged with any degree of success. Put your guns in the care of someone you trust who is currently licensed if you're concerned, that way they can't be seized. Call in every day until you get your new card. Record the calls. If you get charged with some bullshit licensing offense, you can present the calls as evidence to prove that the RCMP created the offense through laziness and he'll throw the case out. If you're good at talking to police then you can avoid arrest and get a notice to appear instead. Looks better on your record.
>>30612560
Context?
Does anybody know where can I hunt boars by myself in Ontario beside Prescott & Russell counties? I live in GTA btw, but am willing to drive an hour or two. Also what kind of license do you need to have? Small game?
And on completely unrelated note, does anybody know anyone that is selling a semi-auto g36? And what price would they be? I have been looking for one for ages.
>>30613545
boar is an invasive species. you probably just need an outdoor card with the hunting endorsement, but I don't know.
>>30613545
>>30613680
>boars in Ontario
So fucking jelly.
I'm a BCfag, and I've never heard of any boars in the area, much less invasive species.
Sheeit, I would love to hunt boar. It's practically unlimited pork.
>boar chops
>boar sirloin
>boar sausage
>boar bacon
fug
Angel Inlet, the border crossing road is not monitored.
>>30613545
>hunt boars
>by myself
I dunno about that. I'd bring a buddy or two in case shit goes south. Boars can be aggressive lil shits. They can also be heavy, so it'd be hard to haul one by yourself.
>>30614062
Thanks for the heads up, Archie.
>>30614090
Would Boar hunting be a legitimate excuse to fix bayonets?
>>30613728
I don't think we really have an boars here. Alberta and Sask has them I hear.
>>30614119
In BC fat pigs are limited to UBC/SFU/UVic campuses but you're not allowed to hunt them.
>>30614116
>n-no Fish Officer, this is a knife for field dressing
>why is it affixed to my rifle?
>well, why not? It's not like that'll fit in my pocket or anything
>>30614119
Do we have any invasive species at all?
I do like the idea of just being able to hunt with no limit. Also, cheap meat.
>>30614168
Muslims.
>>30614269
>AoYJ
Kill yourself, my man
>>30614292
Every time you point that out you get him more attention. Just shut the fuck up about it you autistic fuck.
Whats the cheapest you guys find .303 for ?
the stuff at my canadian tire goes for 36/20rd
or 1.80/rd.
>>30614534
Start reloading
>>30614589
If he was really that frugal, he would already be reloading.
It's readily apparent that he isn't.
Which means, if he's not smart enough to think of reloading, he probably shouldn't be trusted with tools, measuring equipment, toxic heavy metals, and explosive compounds.
>>30614534
.303 is the reason I started reloading. Once you get some brass, you can get it down to like 75 cents per round. $1.50-2.00 per round is the cheapest you'll find it from the factory though, maybe as low as $1.20 if you buy bulk but I think that's pretty rare.
I also heard Wolf was coming out with steel case .303 for like 80 cents per round, but I have yet to hear anything on that. Could have just been a rumour.
>>30614617
I made rdx in a day its called basic instruction and patience
>>30614269
They are not invasive! Justin Trudeau said so!
>>30614725
>pic
Technically true.
Different cultures have introduced innovative methods to living.
Indians invented designated shitting streets. Now you can save money from all that toilet paper you're not buying, plus you're not flushing your savings down the toilet. Who needs running water in your own home, when the streets are free?
>>30614725
Maybe he is right, seems like an intelligent well informed guy. Would you embarrass yourself and your country like this if you weren't?
>>30614810
>being mad cuz J-Tru has brown pussy on tap
>>30614762
My family has saved thousands in toilet paper costs since the city of Brampton installed the designated shitting streets. I was able to buy a type 97 with the savings.
>>30614810
>white guy
>can do a reasonable dance
I really want to hate this guy, but damn...
>>30614943
All joking aside, I've heard that a small minority of brown people in Ontario actually do shit in public.
No idea if it was Brampton, but a few years ago on /a/, some guy claiming to be from Ontario said he personally witnessed three Pakistani men pulling down their pants and casually shooting the shit with each other, while they were literally shooting the shit with each other.
I know it seems farfetched, and I know that there was no evidence to support this, but for some strange reason, I am willing to take /a/non's word for it.
>why would anybody lie on the internet
>>30615015
I've witnessed an elderly east asian man shitting in a bush outside an apartment building in North York.
>>30614589
>>30614636
honestly that was the reason i started considering reloading so early in the game,i was looking at the lee loader anniversary kit for 200 on cabelas,any recommendations on kits or guides?
>>30614617
hey you,yes you,go fuck yourself!
>>30615145
Just wing it
>>30615163
sounds good!
(boom)
>>30615086
>elderly
Ehh, at least he might have an excuse. Old people generally tend to be fucking crazy, regardless of race.
Now, as for an entire ethnic group of people, of various ages, that's just abhorrent.
>tfw I've witnessed an elderly white woman walking into a Vietnamese restaurant, burping very loudly, then vomiting on the floor
>when the waitstaff kicked her out, she put up no resistance
>her last words before leaving the building was "Tell George I said happy birthday!"
>also, for some reason, she was wearing RocaWear pants
>a white granny wearing niggerpants walked into an Asian restaurant to vomit on their floor and wished someone who doesn't even exist a happy birthday
>>30614810
holy shit look at him go. He's been holding back, urging to do that all his life.
I mean Obama is a little shit but I'm so glad this isn't my president.
>>30615240
america is currently a timebomb ,it's no longer an if but a when and it seems it might happen soon if shillary gets in.
>>30615296
>if shillary gets in
>if
You mean "when," my friend.
I'm convinced that she will win, because it's le current year, and people will vote for Hillary because she's a woman, just like how people voted for Obama because he's black.
Trump, bless his heart, has no chance of winning. He's an old white man, people are tired of seeing their country being run by old white men. He also has the fact that he's a total blowhard working against him. His chances might be better if he wasn't so obnoxious.
>tfw America won't be made great again
>>30615370
some patriot in the missile silo should give them an honorable end.
>>30614168
Wolves up in northern BC have no limit from what I've heard, as well as deer on the Queen Charlottes/Haida Gwaii
So hypothetically if I had a suicide attempt over 5 years ago how long will it take to get my PAL?
>over 2 1/2 fucking years
>Finally gave me forms for a doctor to fill out in May
>still no word
>>30616802
Shoulda/coulda/woulda lied on 16d
>>30616802
i had to break the news to my buddy that he probably shouldnt bother applying for a pal until at least 5 yrs have elapsed since he was in the psych ward
he was rustled
>>30610116
Sounds just like mine. Where did you take yours?
>>30617123
On question 16 I bet they background check all those questions regardless of your answers.
>>30615370
Trump is crushing Hilldawg in the swing states. Believe, anon.
>>30617383
Victoria, BC. You?
>>30615370
Also should note that people didn't vote Obama just because he's black, but because he was incredibly charismatic, while being full of warm fuzzy feels, just like fucking Trudeau. Hillary has negative charisma.
So when a transfer is complete, I might receive an email or a letter in the mail?
>>30611459
>inflatable buttplug
wut
>>30618786
Should receive an email
If I take the PAL and RPAL combined course do I send off for my RPAL and am able to buy non-restricted firearms with my RPAL?
Or will I have two separate licence?
>>30620643
it's one license that says pal/rpal
>>30613728
I don't think Ontario has Boars, would be great though, pork is best meat.
You got pic related though. Cute fuckers
>>30613545
The g-36 somehow was missed in the infamous 90's bans. Guess it was not in enough 80's action movies.
As for finding one I can tell you in all my years of lurking online forums I have never seen one for sale. Can't say I have been looking though. Good luck anon
>>30612232
>>30612316
Personally I'd just thread it and put on a fake can.
>>30620654
Alright thank you.
So that means if someone just got their Rpal they would only be able to own prohibited firearms?
Funny thought that you can walk into bubba gun ltd. and walk out with a Ar-15 but not a nugget.
>>30620713
You can't get just the RPAL the RPAL is basically just an upgrade to the PAL.
I think you're also confusing restricted with prohibited.
>>30620713
The Rpal is the PAL. If you have an RPAL, you have a PAL. You can get the PAL without the RPAL but not one without the other.
I have an Rpal but no restricteds. I'll likely apply for the RPAL again when I have to renew in case I decide to get a restricted sometime.
>>30620739
:^)
>>30620713
no, it's literally just one tier up
You can have just a pal, but an rpal always includes both
>Can't take apart my surplus VZ-58 magazines for a proper and thorough cleaning because of the magazine pin
Fuck you magazine limit laws!
>>30620765
As long as the pin is back in when you load it and fire you are good senpai.
Anyone who says otherwise is condoning the unsafe keeping of a key part of the firearm.
>>30614292
Didn't know what AoYJ was until you pointed it out, took pic off /k/ in another thread, you may want to see how far on the spectrum you rank.
>>30614877
Despicable. How could one enjoy mudvag?
>>30620811
>>30620765
if you want to be extra safe side
>drill hole in 3 rounds deep
>push follower past third round
> rivet 3rd
> remove 5rd rivet *
> clean and lube mag
> reassemble
> rivet 5rd
> remove 3rd rivet *
* you must find a foreigner to do this , for no Canadian knows how to remove rivet
How long did it take you guys to re eive your license?
>applied for Rpal
>checked yes for mental health
>got call from rcmp
>told them I had some counselling for anxiety
>rcmp asks if I'm thinking of killing myself
>no
>they tell me it should come in mail in 3 weeks
>9 fucking months after application later (like 7 months after the interview) it comes in mail
>bought fudd rifle for durr
BC
>>30620914
why the fuck would you check yes for mental health?
>>30621081
I thought it would come up on the background check.
>either the CFO was investigating me or they were being really lazy
I'm guessing it was a bit of both.
>>30621081
Do you think they don't background check all question 16 even if you say no?
>>30621109
it's such an ambiguous question you have plausible deniability, so even if they did find that out (which they wouldnt have been able to for something so minor)
>>30621205
I think they're less thorough, it's not easy for them to access medical records
>>30621230
I honestly thought they check those questions either way. They just want to see if your lying or not.
BTW, I get what you mean by vague. One question they ask if anyone in your household has been prohibited in the last 5 years. But by household do they mean your dependents ( which is what I was taught in school) or do you mean anyone living the same house as you?
>>30621434
a lot of people lie about the mental health one and dont have issues
>>30620914
>they tell me it should come in mail in 3 weeks
Just like they tell you you should renew your license 45 days before it expires to be on the safe side
>>30607969
Torontofag here, but did my PAL/RPAL at Guide to Game in Peterborough. Highly recommend those guys. Mark and Mark are great, and I highly suspect Mark Jr. lurks here. A few things he said during the course made me wonder...
>>30608301
Bad but not as bad as people say. I hide just how high my powerlevel is for sure, but freely talk with coworkers and such about hunting and sport shooting.
>>30608368
Well that is just FUCKED. Not that surprised though. Torontonians in general are more pro-gun than you would think, but Toronto cops are straight up jackbooted thugs. I hear they have been caught using the prohib registry to show up at the funerals of prohib owners. Then they offer the family a buyback on the deceased person's prohibs, preventing them from being passed down and new prohibs being grandfathered. Fucking vultures.
quick question
t97 original handle ( with top rail) for 650
or
Israel mauser 7.62 nato mix n match parts and okay scope 400
>>30615015
A good friend of mine is an electrician working on Toronto subway station renovations.
Says they have had 3 long health and safety talks, because someone on the construction team keeps shitting in odd places and the same poor african guy keeps finding it and getting really upset at the brown guys.
>>30621434
>implying that the Canadian government is competent enough to actually do their jobs
Lots of people get their license without a single reference called. They don't get an interview either. If anything, the licensing system is only there to give noguns Canadians an illusion of security. It's not like I have a problem with this. Canada has incredibly low homicide rates any way.
>>30621552
T97, Mainly because if its in good condition you may be able to sell for more of you dont like it.
>>30621542
Wonder what would happen if a hacker made every PAL/RPAL renewal default to PPAL 12.1 to 12.8.
>>30622193
If it were discovered? Probably it would make things worse for gun owners. Because now we're dangerous haxxors as well as murderers. They'd basically just label us as a bunch of crazed anarchists no doubt.
If they never figured it out, and canadians just quietly bought sweet prohib guns? Well that would be amazing.
>>30620914
Still waiting here but it's been like 2 weeks. BC also. Didn't check yes to anything, terminal normalfag here.
>>30622622
BC is generally one of the faster provinces to get your license. Once you confirmed that they have received and started to process your info, you can call in and do interview and get reference number to have your references call in. Makes it way faster.
BTW, it takes time for them to open your application. I know some people where they confirmed (Using mail tracker service) that miramichi got it but when they call in miramichi says they still haven't opened it.
>>30622974
Yeah I know they got mine but I haven't looked into whether they've started processing or not. I didn't realize you could be proactive and call in to get the process rolling, thanks for the tip anon. I'll wait a bit and if I haven't heard anything I'll check that ou.
>>30622974
>>30623085
Just tried to check the status online, and it says there's 1 error in my login info, but if i'm sure it's correct to check again at a later date. I'm sure I know my name and birthday, so I suppose that means they haven't opened it yet.
>>30623153
Ya that means they haven't opened it yet and it's not in the system.
Reading other people's timelines makes it seem like it takes about 7-10 business days for them to open it after they recieved it.
>>30623237
That's pretty reasonable. I imagine there's a big stack this time of year for people looking to hunt in the fall.
>>30623249
One thing I'm not clear though is, does the 28 day waiting period begin when they received your letter or when they opened it?
live in ontario, i want to buy of them chinese Sanrenmu 710 folding knives however i don't know much about the pocket knife laws in ontario
maybe one of your anons could help out
>>30623388
dont be retarded ,
have a valid reason (ex for work , to cut boxes , zap straps,vines , ect)
>>30623319
I'm not sure, I've heard different things from when your envelope is postmarked to when they start the approval process. If anyone has the official word I'd love to hear it.
>>30623437
>>30623319
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/889278-28-day-waiting-period-start
>>30623418
i never said i didn't have a valid reason
i just need it as a tool to carry around or keep in car for whenever i need it for repairs or when it will come in handy
it doesn't specifically have to be the sanrenmu 710, any folding pocket knife would do, i just mentioned that one because it's cheap as hell under $10
>>30609172
I did mine at an outdoor range, excellent times were had. There was a fellow who brought us a bunch of muzzleloaders and the RCMP even showed up to let us try their pistols.
Mind you, this was Alberta Hunter Education that happened to have the PAL course rolled in.
Where does one look online for a Restricted Vz.58? None of my LGSes have one.
>>30617828
http://fivethirtyeight.com/politics/
;_;
>>30620914
Honest to god around less than 2 months.
>British Columbia
>RPAL
>no hindering factors (no criminal record, no psychiatric problems, no marriage/divorce, etc.)
>probably the cleanest motherfucker you'll ever meet
>>30621589
>a black person is somehow more civilized
all of my keks
>>30623487
No, anon.
He didn't mean "hey guy, don't be retarded, make sure you have a reason to buy the knife.
Those were essentially bullet points.
As a fellow Ontarianon, I can tell you that if you can get it, it is probably legal.
And if it isn't legal, as long as you
A) don't act like a retard, and
B) if a cop is like "why do you have a knife?" say boxes or whatever. Don't say "IDS MAI EDC IN CASE OF NIGGERS!" Saying you carry a knife to defend yourself is just asking for the cops to examine you further.
Then it will be fine.
Sauce: I carry 2 knives all the damn time (one in my coat, one in my pants, because I usually check my jacket when out places.) And am FAIRLY sure both are illegal. I use them for everything and nobody has ever said anything. This has been my habit for like, 10 years now.
One (jacket knife) is really long, and the pants knife is a switchblade.
Tl:dr; that post wasn't an insult, it just had shitty punctuation.
>>30623815
Actually, I feel like I gotta say something here. I've lurked on 4chan for a literal decade, so I realize this is not the place, but since this IS a Canada thread, what the hey.
I work with a shitload of immigrants. And I have learned there are 3 MAJOR distinctions one has to make before going full-on racist.
1) Pakistani/Indian/etc. Vs. Sikh.
We all know this one already. Sikhs I meet never smell like fucking curry, they're always super polite, and generally cool guys with good hygeine.
2) Mainland Chinese vs. Hong Kong.
Mostly these 2 seem to hate each other. Mainland Chinese think they're better than you, while being dickheads. Hong Kong Chinese are pretty cool if you are white, but insanely racist towards everyone else.
3) American/island Black vs. SOME African.
I don't get why assholes like BLM think they have any argument in Canada. We didn't deal in slaves. We freed them, for fucks sake! And when caribbean folks show up with that same entitlement complex? It's doubly retarded.
That said, I have never met anyone from Ethiopia, S.Africa, and several other countries who weren't great guys.
>>30623870
>Saying you carry a knife to defend yourself is just asking for the cops to examine you further.
If you're a woman, they let it slide.
My sister lived in Toronto for a bit, and she didn't give a single fuck. She's been caught carrying a knife by cops before, and she told them exactly what it was used for. They let her go, no further questions asked.
>>30624046
>2) Mainland Chinese vs. Hong Kong.
>Mostly these 2 seem to hate each other. Mainland Chinese think they're better than you, while being dickheads. Hong Kong Chinese are pretty cool if you are white, but insanely racist towards everyone else.
Woah you got me there. Unlike other HKers, i try not to be racist or see things in absolutes as skin colour/ethnic origins/culture etc. doesn't change the fact that you're an asshole.
Same applies for gun ownership where it's not us vs. them as most of gun owners put it at.
As for how HKers vs Mainland Chineres, you've hit the nail on the head pretty much. But on the most part, we just ignore each other due to the political/cultural animosity back home even though we live in close proximity to each other.
But hey, If you're from an earlier immigration wave (mid 90's for me) you just don't care that much since you don't know what's going on back home.
>>30624063
>My sister lived in Toronto for a bit, and she didn't give a single fuck. She's been caught carrying a knife by cops before, and she told them exactly what it was used for. They let her go, no further questions asked.
Is she pretty? Pretty girls don't get tickets after all.
Besides Toronto is pretty safe in general, unless you venture into known danger zones on purpose.
Winnipeg is the murder capital of Canada after all (2009-12). But Thunder Bay just superseded that title for 2015
Also anyone know where you can get a Colt Canada 10" or 11" IUR upper or is that basically non existent.
I don't feel like shelling 2.5 k + for the MRR
>>30624358
Nope, my sister isn't pretty by any measure, and that's not a brotherly bias. She's often mistaken for a lesbian, so take that as you will.
>>30624385
The LGBQT community is now a full fledged political special interest group now. No surprise the cops let her go.
>>30624358
HAH! Shit, what are the odds I would post that in response to a HKer! Too fuckin funny!
Did you freak out for a second wondering if I somehow knew who you are?
I did one time on a /k/anada thread when someone first-named me. Turned out to be a fluke, but man did I shit bricks.
>>30623578
They don't seem so popular after the 858/Swiss scare I doubt any business is going to jump on getting more restricted ones.
>>30624472
That's funny, because I am an actual faggot, and cops are assholes to me all the time.
>>30624554
>I am an actual faggot, and cops are assholes to me all the time.
Well faggotry tolerance differs from Province to province, city to city. Maybe because you give off the hostile faggot vibe?
>>30624472
Good. Toronto has a branch of the Pink Pistols.
If anyone can guilt/special interest Trudeau into giving us CC rights, its the LBGTWTFBBQ folks.
Worked in Washington state.
>>30624554
You in Toronto?
friendly reminder :^)
>Recent attack in Nice
>Live in Edmonton, a city ISIS had on a list of potentially attack zone
I just know my butthole is gonna clench every time I see a Muslim tomorrow
>>30623870
so what's the law on pocket knives?
i can't just tell them "it's a tool to open boxes and other stuff"
>>30625238
>Implying someone pulling a Nice down Whyte wouldn't improve this shithole
Finally finished my club safety course and I'm ready to go. Wish the transfer for two of my soon to be guns went faster. Called Tuesday and Monday and nothing yet.
>>30625264
Yes. You can.
I do exactly that both times a cop has actually gave enough of a shit to ask.
>powerfully drunk
>in public park
>with idiot friends
>cops show up
>"you guys been smoking anything tonight?"
>literally turn pockets inside out, put switchblade on picnic bench
>"Nada, see officers?"
>"can I see that knife?"
>"sure" pass it over
>cop plays with it a bit
>"what you use this for?"
>"boxes and shit. Hell, what DON'T I use it fer, amirite?"
>cop laughs and hands it back.
>"go home guys. You're all too old to be drinking in parks!"
Nobody will ever ask. And if they do, "for boxes and envelopes" is a perfectly valid answer. We don't live in britbongistan, man.
>>30624046
I agree with this. Sikhs are hard working and create jobs. Their religion is basically anti-Muslim which dovetails nicely with Western civilization. Unfortunately second generation can get sucked into gangbanger lifestyle and you get shit like shootings in Surrey.
>>30621434
how are you supposed to know if anyone in your household has been prohibited? even if you asked them, they may have lied.
>>30625763
I guess if your husband had been banned for being a psycho and you were trying to straw purchase guns for him, they'd want you to check "Yes" on that one.
Anyone know a good source of non corrosive 7.62x54r in BC?
As a law-abiding Canadian gun owner, what incentive is there in choosing to buy a "high capacity" magazine versus a magazine of a lower capacity, when the firearm in question in a semi-automatic non-restricted centerfire rifle?
For the purposes of my question, let's imagine a rifle. This imaginary rifle is a semi-automatic non-restricted centerfire.
The only magazines you can buy for it are 5-round magazines, or 5/20 magazines. In other words, a magazine that only holds 5 rounds to begin with, or a 20-round magazine that has been artificially reduced to hold 5.
What incentive is there in choosing the latter over the former?
>in b4 "you can illegally modify it for high-capacity fun"
As a law-abiding citizen, what LEGAL incentive is there in owning a 5/20 mag? Assuming you plan on only ever shooting 5 rounds out of this rifle, what would motivate you into buying a 5/20, versus just a 5/5?
The only reason I can think of is if the 5/20 is less expensive than the 5-rounder. That is literally the only reason I can think of.
What other reasons can you think of? I'm just thinking, if you don't plan on breaking the law, wouldn't a 5-rounder be more efficient? It's smaller and lighter, so you'll have less dead weight/space to carry to the range.
My question isn't intended to be political in any way, shape or form. This is legitimate curiosity based on practicality, economics, and ergonomics.
>>30625845
It looks cooler.
>>30625845
in the case of an AR mag a pinned full size mag is easier to change and fits better in pouches
>>30625845
1) looks cooler
2) is often cheaper if surplus
3) and this is the most important, because it is also the motivation for me to own restricteds, but if a time ever came when law broke down, such as civil unrest, invasion by foreign power, or full-blown fallout post-apoc, then I would no longer give a fuck about the law, and would be in possession of handuns, AR15s, and high cap mags.
>>30610257
When the time comes do you think that person and all the people that person knows are willing to do howevermany years those guns are in your place?
Why even take that risk? And I hope you didn't fucking post this from your own IP address.
>>30617840
>people didn't vote Obama just because he's black
You're right, 'people' didn't. I think you're a bit naive regarding 'human' stupidity.
>>30626021
People had grown tired of Bush. Either party having three terms is exceedingly fucking rare. Romney had negative charisma, he sucked the life out of a room just like Jeb. Obama was youthful, energetic, and promised "Hope" and "Change" which got young people fired up... like Bernie.
Now I think he's a fucking shitbag liar but it's naive to say people voted for him just because he was black.
>>30625264
There are no ontario laws on knives
There are federal laws and maybe bylaws in a few towns. The only bylaw I've heard of for knives is Calgary, which prohibits fixed blade knives worn openly for some gay reason. Clearly Calgary is the world capital for gay cowboys.
If you carry a knife as a weapon it must not be concealed. if your knife has any utility purpose you have a good argument that it's not a weapon. I carry a 6.5" fixed blade everywhere and have never had a problem. I've been carrying a knife since grade school. Sometimes I carry IWB, sometimes openly on a belt. I actually do use it to open boxes, cook, eat, etc so nobody can deny that it's a utility knife or claim it's carried for an unlawful purpose. Nobody seems to bat an eye when I pull it out for stuff, but I do tons of weird shit and people are just used to it. For me, carrying a knife is a personal religious practice, and a handy way to open beer bottles.
Folding knives for some reason attract less attention. You won't get in trouble for carrying a folding knife unless you're a huge retard.
>>30625845
You left out the 3rd category: loophole magazines.
10-20 rounds in a centerfire rifle and fully legal.
>>30626046
there are multiple people who have stated they voted for Obama because he is black. in a country as big as america you always find some idiot that will proudly tell you about that one idiotic thing he did that nobody thinks anyone would actually do
his competition wasn't really that great though. it's safe to say that he won based on the strength of his campaign and his engaging speeches, not just because of being a half-nig.
>>30625845
Aesthetics. 90% of any firearm purchase is aestheics. Furthermore, the world is a large one, and you're training to become proficient with a firearm, it's unlikely you'll be using tiny bitch magazines in any other country than this one. You would need to train all over with full-capacity (not high-capacity, these are the magazines the firearm is designed to use) magazines.
Additionally, this is a biased question designed to generate only politically unappealing answers. It assumes that a) Canadian law is just, b) Canadian law must be followed and c) Canadian law will always be followed. None of which is true.
>>30626046
>>30626225
If at least two persons voted for Obama because he was black then people voted for Obama because he was black.
>>30623487
You can own most knives that are not auto opening or gravity assist (or push knives). Concealing it is a gray area and case law varies wildly (are you concealing a weapon or a tool?).
>>30626315
>Additionally, this is a biased question designed to generate only politically unappealing answers. It assumes that a) Canadian law is just, b) Canadian law must be followed and c) Canadian law will always be followed. None of which is true.
if that's true, then the question failed.
what would be the benefit of a biased question?
whether Canadian law is just is irrelevant. most laws are unjust put it doesn't reduce the punishment.
the law must be followed unless you want to deal with the hassle of hiding all the lawbreaking you do, which is not to be underestimated. it's not always practical to break the law
Canadian law won't always be followed, and the question doesn't assume that. it's just asking for reasons why someone might prefer a neutered magazine to a small magazine, which is a good question for a gun owner or prospective gun owner to ask. "why would I buy x instead of y?"
>>30626488
>what would be the benefit of a biased question?
Rigging the answers, obviously. Holy shit.
The question was about generating a valid reason to have a(big mags), when c(size restrictions) and d(canadian government) are in place. The reasons given are poor because of these unreasonable and limiting clauses which, coincidentally, are assumed to be just and infallible to lawmakers, the people who would benefit from outright banning full-sized magaines, and also this biased question.
I'm not explaining it properly but you're a fucking asshole and the tone conditions of your question makes a half-assed political excuse for banning full-sized magaines.
Oh, we banned this and that, so why do you need the other thing? Hunting is the only VALID AND LEGAL excuse for owning a firearm, so why do you need a semi-automatic with big, scary magazines? Lmao, no TRUE hunter needs 5 rounds to kill a deer. Nevermind the valid reasons we don't find kosher.
Don't include me in your school paper or whatever, I'm too dumb to explain myself. Eugh.
>>30626183
Exactly! As long as the magazine was originally designed for use in a bolt or lever action, magazine size is unlimited. How it gets used is irrelevant; stick it in a bolt action, stick it in a semi auto, stick it in a friend's asshole. Example, Archangel AA700, 20 rounds of 7.62x51mm/.308Win, designed for use in a Remington 700 bolt action rifle, fits an M14.
>>30626707
>Archangel AA700
Does the bolt lock back on the m14 with these mags?
>>30625776
Well it says family member. So what if a person is living at home and a sibling or parent is prohibited?
>>30626639
>rigging answers
for what purpose? there isn't even an argument for him to win here
>I'm not explaining it properly
sounds like a personal problem.
>i don't like your tone, so you're an asshole
are you going to cry?
>conditions of your question makes a half-assed political excuse for banning full-sized magaines.
it's not my question, and I don't see how the question excuses the ban. it's just asking what the worth of a neutered magazine is if someone is going to comply with the ban, which a lot of gun owners do for fear of being caught. and guess what? all the answers were describing perfectly legal reasons why someone might prefer the neutered magazine to a small-capacity magazines. it goes without saying that the full capacity magazine is best. there is no excuse for banning magazines of any capacity
I hemmed and hawed about buying a black rifle for quite some time, because I thought it would be wasteful to pay 3 to 4 times as much on a rifle that would be no shootier than my SKS. I went and bought one anyway because I believe we can change the law and there will be a big day of celebration where the sound of pins being popped are heard all over Canada. In the mean time I have pistol magazines and a dream that someone will import that lot of .50 Beowulf pistols waiting on the US side of the border. if I had the money I'd do it myself.
>some weird fudd rant about hunting that may or may not be sarcastic
I only hunt with shotguns. The rifles and handguns are for target shooting and home defense. Nothing illegal about that, no matter what the fudds on CGN say. That said, it would be cool to put a drum magazine on a 7mm magnum hunting rifle and pose with the kill. excellent photo for showing to fudds that say you can't hunt with a large capacity magazine
if you're having such trouble explaining yourself, have you considered that you might also be having problems understanding other people and what they mean?
>school paper
are you okay?
>>30617123
I probably would've been caught if I lied
>>30617181
My friend goes on Reddit and some of them who've been in a less dramatic situation said they got their R/PAL within 2-3 years. I think I'll probably have to wait until 2019 until the fucking CFO approves it.
>>30628513
It's okay, you can admit you go on reddit.
>>30625794
Anyone?
I'm paranoid about my nugget's eating habits. Too much fast food isn't good for it. :(
>>30609255
Go Navy or airforce if you wanna see the world, the Army mostly stays home save for a few NATO exercises.
>>30611459
Why do dildo's have fake testicles on them?
>>30615015
Immigration officers at Pearson International actually tell arrivals from India they can't shit on the streets and if they do they'll be fined.
>>30624554
Have you tried not being a faggot?
>>30628969
Why do video games have HD graphics?
death to america
>>30628991
i joined the naval reserve, it's ok.
>i wanna be le oper8or!!!
go to texas and join a "militia" to mall ninja out you fuckken ameriboo
So now that I'm a member of a range, do I call my province's CFO for them to put it on file or what?
>>30610635
There are multiple indoor ranges in Toronto/GTA what are you talking about.
>>30626707
where the fuck can i buy these in this country???
>>30630435
>Toronto
Nope. None
>GTA
3 that I know of? All well outside the city.
Pretty sure this is due to an actual city bylaw being passed preventing ranges within city limits.
>>30626157
I've been given shit for carrying a fucking multitool before.
Granted, that was in Quebec.
I'm also apparently intimidating even when I'm walking with crutches and have wrist braces strapped to my arms.
YMMV, I guess.
>>30630776
Hical.ca gonna mod some for my valmet
>>30632044
Well... Quebec.
The only province to bring back the LGR. They're afraid of their own shadows.
>both restricted transfers have yet to be assigned
Wooooooow Ontario CFO
>>30632325
No one is afraid of their shadows. This is just to make some crazy ladies from Montreal shut up.
>>30629028
Naval Reserve? What trade?
>>30632509
I can see that.
Also in all fairness, Quebecois men are among the angriest people I've ever met. Your politicians probably have a legitimate fear of armed uprising.
>>30632578
That they do.
One needs only read up about the October Crisis to learn why.
I am getting PAL next week
It will be my first one ever. What am i in for?
>>30632743
>One needs only read up about the October Crisis to learn why.
The French are perpetually butthurt and are God's chosen people.
That's what they taught me in high school (Ontario) 5 years ago
>>30633599
You don't know the half of it, man.
>>30631171
>>30630435
there used to be an invite-only range in Union station but Miller had it shut down
>>30633832
Well that's what Quebecers are essentially.
250 years of butthurt since they lost on the plains of Abrahams and the typical French arrogance despite being Canadian history's longest surviving losers
>>30633148
You mean the course? Basic safety shit, how to operate the mechanics of various types of guns, etc. If you have two brain cells to rub together and pay attention you will pass and probably have fun learning.
>>30634163
>despite being Canadian history's longest surviving losers
Chief Sitting Listerine might edge out on that one.
>>30633148
I did mine three weeks ago. if you download the manual you will see. The instructor will just go over almost everything in it for like 4 hours then teach you how to handle the firearms. We were given around an hour to handle like 8 different firearms to practice safe handling, ACT/PROVE, ect. Then we did the written test which was very easy. Finally we did one on one practical which is outlined in OP's pastebin. You will be taught everything you need to know and more.
>>30626985
No, the bolt does not lock back. But they do fit and feed just fine
What are some of the smallest pistols/revolvers we can get up here on a regular RPAL?
