Today the EU will vote on new gun control laws that would ban all semi autos from civilian possession (including handguns).
Are we fucked /k/?
The EU wont survive another 3 years anyway. I wouldn't worry about it.
>>30604872
Junker please
>>30604861
Yes you are.
The EU is hella regressive.
Let's hope Swissland, Finland, and Czechland all completely ignore it
>>30604861
Euros don't seem to have any problem getting guns illegally, so it can;'t fuck you THAT badly. Just paint the tips orange and call them airsofts.
>>30604894
I have hope for Czeckemland, but Finnish government is totally cucked.
>>30604861
So leave the E-jew. If the britcucks can do it so can you.
>>30604911
Still waiting for that article 50 to be enacted senpai
>>30604894
Switzerland isn't in the EU, we keep our guns for now.
Any actual infos about it? Last thing I heard was that slav countries wouldn't accept it.
>>30604906
This, if you really want a gun it's pretty simple. Local prices where I live supposebly range from 1000-2000$ for most weapons.
The selection is assorted Cz pistols, berettas and jugoslav arms. A lot of copies circulating apperantly.
However, the price and the fact that your dealing with organized crime groups is offputting to say the least. This ban is sad but no suprise, a way to make the people even more powerless
>>30604916
How are switzerlands gun laws?
They California tier or worse/better?
>>30604911
Wont change shit for most countries since Shengen would still be a thing
>>30604916
Switzerland is in the schengen countries so it will have to accept the deal or stop being a schengen country.
Guess which one the politicians will go for?
>>30604951
better, but not by a lot
Well if the eu keeps being full of faggots it will just die out, hope this law will not be accepted in austria
>>30604916
Wake up
>>30604996
It sort of won't
the main sponsors of the law are countries that already have more restrictive laws so they won't have to do shit
countries that have good laws (CZ, SK, SL, AT, etc) will just keep stalling, insisting there has to be compensation for confiscation or just saying it's administratively impossible. Even if the law is passed, little will happen.
>>30604872
>I wouldn't worry about it.
I fucking knew it. Skinwalkers are behind this mess.
>>30604894
France pretty much said "le fuck you, we are not applying your stupid fucking law"
I'm paraphrasing their minister of the Interior here.
>>30604861
They rarely pass such shit but seeing as current parliament is batshit retarded they may as well vote. At the same time who the fuck cares, just hide your rifle well.
>tfw pollack and hiding illegal MP40 my grandfather stole from Germans
I get it out of the hiding and clean it every now and then but didn't have the courage to get it somewhere outside the city and try firing it(plus I only have access to 50+ years old ammo), the action works properly though.
>>30604911
but EU shills are naming the UK as their prime example of a good gun law. if anything the Brexit helped our fellow european /k/ameraden.
>>30605058
>hiding illegal MP40 my grandfather stole from Germans
the polish dream
>>30605042
Didnt thomas de maiziere also say the are vetoing this shit?
>>30604951
>How are switzerlands gun laws?
If you're a Swiss citizen then it's better than Texas, outside of the fact that when you're not using the guns you have to keep them in armoured safe or some other shit I don't recall.
Getting the citizenship for a migrant is pretty much impossible though.
>>30605068
Nope, he only said that he dont see a reason to treat military style semiautomatics different then non military styled semis, that however dont mean he is against banning semis that could take mags with more than 10 rounds
>>30605026
Let's fuckin hope so, i want that sweet AR15 sometime, with 30rnd mags
>>30604894
The Czech politicians will sell out their people faster then they're appropriating EU funds for personal gain. I give them a week before the capitulate l.
>>30604861
Honestly do we really even need guns? We already have anime! I'm not even joking. When we have all this entertainment at our fingertips is there really a point?
I watch anime all the time and I've honestly never even thought about shooting a gun.
>>30605106
And I actually had hope for about 0.0002 seconds. Sehr geil.
>>30605073
you guys can carry?
>>30605207
Your bait is terrible
>>30605207
>>30605212
We don't want guns. It's mostly just military geeks who think they need it because they live in a jungle or some shit. News flash! This isn't fucking terminator. There are plenty of other things you can do for entertainment.
>>30604861
That really just shows that current laws have dropped gun crime to the point that retards on the internet can scoff at the level of knife crime.
>>30605225
Exactly. If you're really going to be a paranoid freakazoid like my sister you can always just carry pepper spray or a taser.
>>30605223
>implying
You don't need a gun. The only reason you likely own one is to boost your ego. There is literally no reason to own one.
Even German politicians say this is a stupid idea.
>>30605233
It's called avoid the situation in the first place.
>>30605201
What a shame.. I loved the Czech Republic. They were probably my favorite central European country, history and all.
>>30604861
Hopefully it passes as an example to The U.S. that guns are unneeded in modern society. Maybe if you lived a while back and needed it to protect your horses or farm from bandits or something but there's a little thing called the police nowadays and there pretty easy to get a hold of.
>>30605252
ye just stay in your basement collecting neetbux all day
gosh these gun posters are retarded
>>30605262
here's your (You)
happy now?
>>30605263
Lel. Tfw I get a government paycheck and work for for a family business and will be living in my own house rent free as soon as my grandma dies. I've literally never made minum wage in my life and I've never needed a gun to defend anything I own because I don't live in a fucking ghetto. Guns are for idiots who make bad life choices. I'll stick to my anime.
>>30605243
>need
>(your(you))
>>30605275
whatever you say wageslave
lmao
>>30605280
Cute girl.
>>30604861
>Today the EU will vote on new gun control laws that would ban all semi autos from civilian possession (including handguns).
source? people keep pulling shit out their ass about this
>>30605220
We can OC when we go to the range and come back
CCW permit is hard as hell to get, you'd need to have been threatened or mugger numerous time to even pretend to it. The tests are easy af though
>>30605275
Lucky!!
>>30605259
The political establishment has always been rotten to the core. We could be the next Switzerland, but every politician is too chicken shit to highlight corruption and get the balling rolling.
>>30605303
so you're not better than texas
which sucks cuz its awful here
>>30605308
Exactly. That's going to leave me with around $900 extra to spend on whatever I want every month including cuties like this as I won't be wasting my money on guns and ammo preparing for somthing that's never going to happen. Might as well couch your cash down the toilet.
>>30605314
Yeah don't know why he said it's better
>>30605360
This, for the price of a really nice gun or small gun collection you can buy something that's actually cool like a fucking motorcycle or some shit.
>>30605360
>900 extra a month
holy fucking poorfag
>>30605313
Is the corruption in Czechadia worse than in the US? I thought they were extremely developed.
Also: THIS CAPTCHA IS ALL SIGNS
>>30605375
That's "extra" on top of what I already have to spend. You won usually see poorfags crusing around on one of these.
>>30605399
if you dont have atleast 5k of fun cash each month im fairly certain you're a poorfag
>>30605417
How do you have 5k a monthly on spending paper?
>>30605245
They feel uncomfortable about disarming the muslim population since that could be interpreted as raicis.
>>30605417
Yeah maybe 5k USD, RUB or other poorfag currencies but 5k Euros is real money. :)
>>30605360
Anime figures>guns
Can't argue with that. In a post apocalyptic scenario the trade value would be about the same and you don't even need trainning to use the figure.
>>30605498
Not for long my dear friend.
>>30605498
>euros
>real money
ITT cucks talking how anime is better than guns
>>30604913
Trumps wins election
>I am just waiting on the inauguration kekekek
Let's get some actual info on what's happening toiday in here:
This is what you can do and where you can sign.
https://firearms-united.com/2016/06/20/protest-2-0/#more-1133
Here's what's at stake: https://firearms-united.com/2016/06/30/rumours-dubious-compromises/#more-1250
tl;dr
>bans virtually all semi autos
>bans nearly all online sales of guns, requires even euro equivalents of gunbroker/armslist to keep official firearm registration records for everything sold
>unlike he parts that would simply make semi autos illegal, the directive explicitly orders "military-style" semi autos to be confiscated, no exceptions for collectors and for museums only if deactivated permanently
>high cap magazines to be banned and confiscated, magazines treated as a firearm part subject to licensing
>Gun owners are now considered insane by default and lose their guns unless they prove they aren't every few years
>Gun licenses limited to 5 years duration
>deactivated guns, blank, alarm and gas guns to be registered/licensed
>No more cash allowed for gun sales
>The few places that recognized cat D (single shot smoothbore shotguns) will require registration for these, too
It's Feinstein's wet dream and of course just another step towards total public disarmament
On the bright side, cap&ball warned that antiques/repros would be banned too, but the way I understand it they are still exempt.
However, this is what the people think who are working on this:
>We are killing sport shooting. But we do not think it needs to be done tomorrow. They have licenses for five years now. And we think that we let them a little longer transitional period, perhaps five-year transition period for changing interest, to find a new sport. But we are killing the sport, she says.
Let's pray that it doesn't pass. There are plenty of additions that would make it less bad, but I don't want to see an inch of our rights being taken today.
>>30605541
You can't be serious. You actually enjoy guns more than anime? Guns are great and whatever but damn. That's not even a funny joke.
>>30605491
Funny, but German mosques are already packed full of smuggled full-auto AK copies.
>>30605635
I'm sure he wasn't being serious. Nobody would actually give up anime for guns, at least not here. This is 4chan.
>>30605649
I know but it still scared me a little bit.
>>30605275
More people need this mindset.
>>30605645
The most of them aren't, but the ones that are mostly visited by north africans are indeed shady
>>30604960
Good thing they have direct democracy and ProTell is a strong lobbyist.
I'm more worried about Czechs. I love that country.
Why is an economic alliance passing gun control laws? If Mexico or Canada tried to pass gun control laws on the USA their cities would be on fire that same night.
>>30605491
I already written a mail to Marc Schieferdecker about this, if the ban happen i want to write an article about evil white man dont wanting muslims to own semis
>>30605042
It's funny how you couldn't be further from the truth. I don't get where you are getting that idea from, but French minister of interior, Bernard Cazeneuve was the one who initiated this whole ban thing in the first place, French socialist and greens MEPs are the main pushing force behind this law.
https://www.all4shooters.com/en/Shooting/law/EU-Gun-Ban-French-Ministry-Internal-Affairs-responsibility/
Read the article and watch the video, Cazeneuve proudly claimed on TV that he was behind this.
Even if other EU countries didn't want to implement the law, France will, oh boy you can be sure it will.
>>30605765
can be easier to do regulation through trade deals and treaties than through legitimate legislation
>>30604861
Should we French be worried ? Our laws are already hard so that would be stupid banning all semi auto.
>>30605576
Referendum was glorified opinion poll, it's not legally binding unlike actual elections.
Don't get me wrong, I'm for brexit and crashing EU with no survivors, but these are the facts at the moment.
>>30605654
>>30605649
>>30605635
>TFW I've never even watched an anime in my life. Just here for the guns
>>30605378
There's like 6 squares that aren't, it's solveable.
>>30605771
German journalist who runs an online mag here, if you want to write such an article I'd be more than happy to publish it on there.
Got a mail?
>tfw Marc forgot about my interview request after getting out of hospital
>>30605608
>Gun owners are now considered insane by default and lose their guns unless they prove they aren't every few years
So, it was written by blatant hoplophobes.
>>30604861
>EU will vote
>Muh Democracy
>People don't get to vote
What is this shit
>>30605831
>https://www.all4shooters.com/en/Shooting/law/
Of course.
That statement about killing sports shooting was the president of the Swedish police academy.
The mid to long term goal of the people who write these laws is to ban guns from the general public period
>>30605787
See >>30605778
France will be the country that suffer the most from this law, it's going to hit us at full force.
What they are planning :
-ban of all firearms that look like "automatic weapons of war" : bye bye AR15, Saiga, Vz58, FAL, etc
-ban of all handguns that can shoot more than 21 rounds without reloading
-ban of all rifles that can shoot more than 11 rounds without reloading
-ban of all rifles which length can be reduced to less than 60 cm, either with a telescopic stock, folding stock, or a stock that can be removed easily
-ban of all category A firearms (although they are already banned in France, but they are trying to fuck up countries like the Czech republic or Switzerland by doing so)
-new deactivation standards for the whole of the EU, which have been in effect since april, requiring a deactivated gun to be fully welded and pinned so that no part can be moved or disassembled, not even the magazine. Even with the new deactivation standard, deactivated weapons that look like an automatic weapon of war will still be banned
-category D will be removed, and everything that was in it will be moved into category C, meaning that you'll need a license, a safe and registration in order to buy antiques, black powder replicas, deactivated guns, blank guns (starter pistols), replicas (including airsoft and paintball), etc...
-a special tax on guns and ammo
-the marking of all parts of a gun with a serial number, as well as the marking of every single cartridge in each ammo box
-ban of internet sales
-making it illegal to buy guns or ammo with only cash
-stricter medical exams
Maybe other EU countries won't apply all of those restrictions, but France will, you can be 100% sure of it.
>>30605608
>We are killing sport shooting. But we do not think it needs to be done tomorrow. They have licenses for five years now. And we think that we let them a little longer transitional period, perhaps five-year transition period for changing interest, to find a new sport. But we are killing the sport, she says.
What the fuck? She is literally insane. I can't even begin to write how I feel about this. How do people not call her out for that bullshit? Whoever wrote this can't be psychologically sane.
>>30605859
Wow this can't happen, we are like the most country with legal guns in Europe per people's. Do you imagine how much people's this could affect? To be goner I don't care they do the stuff with deactivated guns but putting cat d in C is retarded as fuck as well as banning cat B. So what they thinks we will do ? They are gonna give us money at least for what fun we have paid ? Trust me they better don't do this shit law, people's will refuse to give their fun even they are registered.
So will this affect the UK or nah?
>>30604881
Juncker is president of the EU comission, your shitposting has revelaed your ignorance.
>>30604894
Dutchfaggot here.
The Dutch are fucked beyond saving.
Mostly because our prime-minister is a huge faggot that would rather have the Netherlands be the example of absolute obedience than to ever stand up for the country and say no to something.
This country is fucked and we really need to get the fuck out.
>>30605889
Yes, it will make their gun laws looser.
>>30605863
President of the swedish police academy in 2013. I think she might have had an advisory role in this directive
>>30605252
kind of hard when your chancellor floodded the country with more than a million animals.
>>30605859
I read the proposal yesterday and found nothing about a tax in there.
Also the way I understand it, the addendum still excempts antiques and black powder replicas even if the full commission proposal gets passed.
Or am I getting things wrong? please tell me it's not that bad
>>30605873
No it's totally going to happen. The law is progressing very smoothly thanks to the socialist and greens of all countries, but mostly from France, Sweden and the Netherlands.
Do you seriously think our politicians care about what we think, or our right to personal property? There isn't going to be any monetary compensation for the banned guns, obviously. The police will send us letters asking us to surrender our guns, and most people will do it willingly. If anyone tries to resist, they'll get a visit from the police and their guns will be confiscated immediately, not to mention the legal consequences. Don't delude yourself into thinking Frenchmen will ever rise up, it's not going to happen.
Also note that under state of emergency, prefincts can decide to confiscate all guns of all categories whenever they want. How convenient.
>>30605910
Its not really an dutch problem, I thinks all EU country want that.
I'm French and our elite are anti-gun and pro-eu just like yours and other eu country.
>>30605947
The key is registration. We lost the day that became mandatory.
>>30605654
I.. i.. was serious, never watched anime, pls no kill me
>>30605947
They are not even talking about it on the fucking medias!
>>30605378
Not worse, just more blatant. Development wise, our roads are literally worse than some in Africa. Gives you an idea of how "developed" we are.
>>30605836
Eu is no democracy it's a state "democracy", meaning only politics vote. Also some countries can't even vote.
>>30605889
Yes, via Schengen just like Switzerland
>>30605968
Actually they did, when the initiative was launched and voted the first time
>>30605989
Also Norwegians, we don't even have anything to say against it. It's such bullshit.
How did the vote go?
>>30605995
Ok so I called a few gun owner in france and they all say this law is impossible to happen.
I suggest you call them too and see what they told you, they know more about all of us since they are the main target.
>>30606004
I'm still not sure whether it's today or tomorrow. Nothing on firearms united yet
>>30606021
There was a vote from 15:30 to 16:30, very fast and without any debate. Just for and against.
>>30606004
>>30606021
The vote is due on July 14th and the final decision is for November 22nd
>>30605984
Even worse, the only options to vote for are "Yes" and "No, please revise".
>>30606009
I'm French, and have been a gun owner for more than 5 years. I have many guns that are going to be targeted by this ban. The law is definitely going to happen, whether your deluded friends want to believe it or not. Most French shooters aren't even aware of the things that concern them, they don't know shit about that new law, and never attempt to educate themselves. Not to mention most of them can't even read english anyway. People have been saying gun laws aren't going to happen in 2012 too, and 1998, and 1995 and 1939.
I suggest you educate yourself by reading websites treating the subject
http://www.unpact.net/
https://firearms-united.com/
https://www.all4shooters.com/en/Shooting/
Rather than believing hearsay from useful idiots.
>>30605989
They can just leave Schengen though. At least Switzerland might.
>>30606009
>French gun owner
>knowing things
Pick one anon
>>30606117
Switzerland got a free pass for its guns and rifles. They might let it flow
>>30605608
>>30606075
>>30606120
Wow sorry for my mistake but I mean gun store owner.
>>30606167
Hardly changes the matter
>>30605839
>That statement about killing sports shooting was the president of the Swedish police academy.
SWEEEEEEDDDEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNN
EVERY FUCKING TIME
>>30606133
>Implying we did
They told us that our SOLDIERS can kept the ARMY RIFLES at home. So everyone else not currently active in the army and that has privately bought guns is fucked, this means that EVERYONE is fucked since the people in the army are irrelevant to civilian gun ownership in Switzerland.
this project is shit desu, but
>"comparing assault rifles to knifes" meme
CAT A7 HAS PASSED
SEMI AUTOS WILL BE BANNED IN THE EU AND SCHENGEN COUNTRIES.
WE ARE FUCKED, I JUST GOT THE NEWS ON FB ABOUT THIS LAW PASSING THE EU PARLAMENT.
SAY FUCKING GOODBYE TO YOUR SEMI AUTOS GUYS.
>>30606318
No the text says the exception stands for every ordinance type gun or rifle. It says nothing about it being specific for army reservists or active men
vote to leave the EU
>>30606354
Link to the text?
>>30605058
>smussled away MP40
Salutations from a Swedecuck, it's grand to hear someone in Europe preserving a piece of history and having a good piece of weaponry in spite of the overbearing state.
How are the magazines? They're usually the weak link of the MP40, if you can get some snapcaps or dummy cartridges you should be able to test the feeding.
As for the 50 year ammo, as long as it's been stored decently it should function and perform adequately, hell, it might work better in your gun than the typical modern loadings of 9mm Luger.
>>30606353
Source pls
>>30605207
>>30605225
>>30605233
Knulla polisen.
>>30604861
Idk I could care less about your ladyboy run government. Death by isis for all I care, fuck awf.
>>30605541
it's just the one weebfaggot spamming his shit all day all over k.
>>30605360
>weeaboo
>criticizes other's hobbies
Shiggy diggy doo
>>30606371
Currently retrieving it
>>30606353
cant find anything, even twitter is quiet so far
pls dont be real
>>30604872
>>30604906
I really dislike posts like these or when people tell you to do something anyways or make your own if something you want is banned.. It's the equivalent of just giving up.
You shouldn't have to risk going to prison at all to own a gun or go shooting and people should care when other people try to make it illegal.
>>30606353
It was to be expected, but still...
Thread theme :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSCiMbMVDLI
>>30606353
Are you in the future? Because it's not the 14th on CET yet
Why was I born in this shitty age of the earth and not 60-90 years ago?
>>30606353
Source?
>>30605058
Burger here, I must say I'm jealous that you have an mp40 even though I can get all the semi autos I want. Keep that thing close and protect it dearly. A firearm with that much history and being family heirloom-tier, I would cherish it as my own child
>>30605201
As a Czech, i can say that i worry this may be true. 90% of people here are against such law, but our politicians are corrupt as hell...
>>30604947
You must be british. In middle europe the prices don't really go over 500$ for pistols. Full auto get expensive though
>>30605989
The UK isn't in Schengen?
We're fucked lads
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/20160711IPR36757/Gun-control-MEPs-clarify-licensing-rules-and-safeguards
>
The Commission proposal would have added many firearms used legally by hunters and sport shooters to the list of “Category A” firearms prohibited for civilian use. The Internal Market Committee text restricts Category A to firearms with specified characteristics, such as semi-automatic firearms capable of firing more than 21 rounds without reloading, if a loading device with a capacity exceeding 20 rounds is part of the firearm or is inserted into it, and certain folding or telescoping firearms.
>>> if a loading device with a capacity exceeding 20 rounds is part of the firearm or is inserted into it
Literally every semi auto except those with a 3 shot internal fixed mag. Every other gun is capable of doing that if you insert a large magazine.
We're all Britain now if it passes the parliament.
Time to buy a sword i guess
>>30606805
umad england is going to have more relaxed gun laws than you, eurocuck
>>30606805
The law was approved by 27votes.... Only 27 guys will be responsible for this shit unbelievable
>>30606805
>http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/20160711IPR36757/Gun-control-MEPs-clarify-licensing-rules-and-safeguards
Hasn't this passed already?
>The legislative resolution was approved in committee by 27 votes to 10, with one abstention. A mandate for MEPs to open negotiations with the EU Council of Ministers will be voted after the summer break. Parliament's negotiators, led by Ms Ford, will then start discussions with the Council’s Slovak Presidency.
>>30606804
UK is in Schengen, in fact it is still in the EU
>>30605889
UK will still be in the EU at the time the law is voted/accepted by the parliament on the 22nd of November
>>30606871
>UK is in Schengen
No it isn't.
So the next step is them banning handguns as a whole then banning semi autos as whole once all that is done they'll get to the bolt actions and finally we'll kiss goodbye to blackpowder. As usual Fuck the EU and our own politics for fucking up all the European law abiding gun owners.
In ten years you'll hear about the stockpiles of weapons turned illegal now being sold on a black market thanks to those fucking eurocrats .
Estonian here (we have great fun laws here).
What the fuck have did I miss?
Hungarian here, nobody knows anything, but I am sure that we are getting more fucked, just cause...
>>30606930
They banned all semi autos that can accept mags over 20 rounds. Meaning only guns like SKSs and Fudd semi auto rifles with fixed mags are allowed now but you must belong to a club.
>>30606918
The best part is that people realize how bad things are until it's already done. That whole plan to ban all guns in the EU has been outlined years ago already. But whenever it was mentionned, you would get answers such as "hurr it will never happen, it's impossible, you're just a paranoid far right gun nut."
Now that it's happening, they are finally shitting their pants. Only it's way too late to care about it now.
>>30606871
Please, tell me more about where I live. The UK never signed the Schengen agreement and is not a Schengen state.
How is this going to affect Czechia? My gf lives there, and she loves funs. It's one of the reasons we started talking to each other, in fact.
>>30606944
Can't find jack shit in Estonian media. I hope it's just Estonia not giving a fuck, not libs keeping it undercover.
>>30606418
Yeah, there's plenty of weebs who love guns.
>>30606958
I had mixed opinions about the whole European union for a long time but this time they managed to fuck in one of the greatest way. They don't realize that some people will sell their guns, mags or ammos to anyone if it brings them a bit more money than going through a retarded buyback or confiscation. Better brace ourselves for the next waves of terrorist attacks.
Someone please give me an article or any kind of sauce for this.
>>30606384
>How are the magazines? They're usually the weak link of the MP40, if you can get some snapcaps or dummy cartridges you should be able to test the feeding.
I have 2, they weren't loaded for a long time but springs seem to be in good condition so they probably work as well. As I've said I only clean it once in a few years and store it properly.
Legally I can only own a blackpowder gun though and I don't want to bother with making myself a license and as a person carrying around a gun, especially gun like this is generally suspicious around here(police will check if you have license, gun is registered etc.) so I don't really move it out of my parcel. Buying new ammo will also be hard although if I really wanted to I could do the terrorist way - buy it from ruskies/ukrainians but still.
>>30606689
DESU I don't know the extent but I know that plenty of people in the countryside used to have quite a lot of firearms(some antique - my uncle had Luger for instance) and explosives(mostly plastic from draftees who served their term and got it as a souvenir in 70's or 80's) hidden here and there. Mine is well preserved because we cared for it but I guess you'll see more half-rotten mausers than something that operates properly.
>>30606918
Yeah, wait for them telling that it's supposed to stop terrorists from obtaining their illegal AK's.
>>30607008
https://www.all4shooters.com/en/Shooting/law/EU-gun-ban-IMCO-meeting-confiscation-without-compensation/
No buyback, it has already been clearly stated it's going to be a confiscation without any compensation.
>>30606985
You'll be surprised. I remember finding one on /jp/.
>>30605929
>bb.bbb.bb.but muh antiques will be ok
>can't be that bad
you're a fucking cuck and ahmed will have your wife, don't stand up for shit like this
>>30607042
No, I wasn't sarcastic, there's gunloving anime nerds and japanophiles all around, you should see Black Lagoon threads or GuP threads.
>>30607039
thieving cunts. nothing greedier than unchecked politicians
>>30607058
Are you retarded? I never said the thing wasn't total shit, just that point in particular I am not sure about and would be glad if at least that wont be in the ban
I think some Gypsies will break into my house in the next days and steal all my guns.
>>30607069
I don't want this.
>>30604861
>Guns are defacto illegal in Australia
>Guns are defacto illegal in the EU
Now Hillary will have two case studies to use for American gun policy instead of just one!
>>30604861
Actually there is a pretty big ban on knives in general in the EU. Secondly the EU is pretty lax on guns. In some EU countries its actually required to have ownership of rifles.
>>30607058
>can't read
>insults other anons
Well done
What I don't understand is how that whole shit is working. I mean, a commission made a proposal. The EU parliament refused it. Then the commission made some amendments that got accepted by the EU Minister parliament. Now the whole thing got changed again. And now, how is it supposed to continue. Will it go back to the EU parliament or what?
>>30607109
Switzerland isn't an EU country
>>30607130
It's in the Schengen Treaty and as such has to accept EU directives. By not being part of the EU Switzerland cannot vote on the matter but has to accept the decision. Refusing to apply one directive means more or less cancelling Schengen. As you might imagine all the economic and banking sectors will never ever let the Switzerland cancel the Schengen treaty.
>>30607121
The previous votes were about making the laws. Next the application will be voted on the 22nd of November and if it get accepted, it will be applied.
>>30606969
>not libs keeping it undercover.
>>30605243
But what if I want to kill you without physically exerting myself
>>30607109
>ban on knife
so this is a category A knife I have here then
>>30607109
>pretty big ban on knives
>pretty lax on guns
You're describing Switzerland, not the EU
Should I panic buy some cheap 30-rounders while I still can?
>>30607178
It will be voted on the 22nd of November and will be applied in 2017. You have plenty of time to buy
>>30607176
>ban on knives
What?
>>30604861
Having more guns in the hands of civilians will lead to more gun crime. We don't want to turn into the US.
>but we're more responsible than the burgers!
Yes, but I wouldn't want to risk our countries becoming like burgerstan, just because it's fun.
Gun ranges and the like will still exist, so it doesn't matter. All you need for home defense against some skelly burglar is your bare hands.
>(including handguns)
The Northern Irish will be pleased then, as they have more CC permits per capita than about a third of the US states.
>>30607031
I was more thinking the feed lips, those are the sensitive parts on MP40/Sten mags, which is why I suggest you run some fake 9mm cartridges or snapcaps through the gun just to see how it feeds.
Obviously you wouldn't go out and wave it around, but I think it's cool that you secretly own a gun that would make the cops shit themselves.
>>30607201
Fuck off you cuck, that's widely known as nonsense.
Are we getting paid EU shills in here?
>>30607201
>Having more guns in the hands of civilians will lead to more gun crime
Except it doesn't?
>>30607197
Only legal knives are the ones not bigger than your hand's width and needing to be open manually.
Ballisong, button-opened knives or large machetes are a no go for exemple
>>30607201
>All you need for home defense against some skelly burglar is your bare hands.
>>30607152
And who will vote?
If it's the European Parliament, then there is still hope because it was against changing the directive and if there's a absolute majority the whole amendment will get definitely rejected.
If it's the Council of the European Union, then we're fucked. Because those cocksuckers had accepted the draft.
>>30607243
The European Parliament, the very one that said the ban should only be on full-auto converted to semi-auto because of the "easyness" of reconversion to full-auto
>>30607230
>something I don't agree with is bait
People like you are why this board sucks now
>>30607220
What a bunch of bullshit.
The only thing that is banned is:
>knives that have symmetric edges smaller than 30 cms (daggers since these cut from BOTH SIDES)
>knives that have an automatic opening mechanism
You can literally carry a fucking KABAR knife with you and there's nothing the cops can do about it.
>>30607201
Epic bait, here is your (you)
Now kys
>>30607271
It's more about it being proven false numerous times.
Now it's just bait
>>30605058
Fucking anti semite. I knew this board was racist.
You are exactly why they NEED to pass this new legislation to curb gun violence.
>>30607201
There has been a study sponsored by the EU that tried to prove it and it ended with proving that more guns = less crimes. Needless to say that this study got hidden, and will never ever be heard of. Despite my high level of google-fu I cannot find it anymore.
>>30605751
>I'm more worried about Czechs. I love that country.
Me too.
Best people.
>>30607260
The EU Parliament is composed of lazy fucks. They might send the whole proposal to hell, because accepting an amendment means more work for them.
>>30607295
>I heard this thing once, apparently it made them look bad, also they hid it cus it was bad and also I cannot find it but it definitely is a thing pinky swear
>>30607279
The LArm article 4 alinea 1 letter C says that knives with automatic opeaning mechanism, ballisongs, throwing knives and any symmetrical blade knives is banned.
And the law says you can't carry a knive that's longer than your hand's width because it could be used against you
>>30607295
Literally what Switzerland is
>>30607323
>And the law says you can't carry a knive that's longer than your hand's width because it could be used against you
nope. false
>>30607215
>Are we getting paid EU shills in here?
>implying EU shills don't do it for free
>>30607331
could be argued for czech republic, though ownership is very little https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Vra%C5%BEdy.png
>>30607321
Maybe it was this one: https://firearms-united.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Report-Homicide-Suicide.pdf
>>30605798
You mean it is legally biding and allows the control of their participation in the EU to only continue until they say lol
so much so people are literally resigning over it.
I like how you mince words to try and have a point.
>>30607039
Good job EU parliament by fucking law abiding citizens you just created the biggest gun black market in Europe.
http://www.commonsensepost.net/2016/07/13/worst-case-imco-approves-eugunban/
>This interpretation of the text is far from unusual: A German federal court recently used a vaguely worded law to prohibit hunters from buying semi automatic guns with the very same reasoning.
Yep, we're fucked proper
>>30607334
Live how you want then. I hope you'll remember me when you'll get cucked by the police for having a bigger than your own hand knive
>>30607305
I don't want to see a country putting out such nice pistols getting hurt.
If I get accepted into a university in America what are the chances of me getting a job there and being able to stay? I've dreamed of moving to America for a long time. Especially with how Europe is going to shit now I wanna get off the sinking ship.
>>30607201
All these (you)s, and not a single counterargument.
>>30607216
More weapons, means more weapons available, which means more weapons used, and more weapons used for crime.
This is why we don't let idiots off of the street legislate. You people will run the world into the ground if you're given anything more than your precious vote.
Anyway, this is a /pol/ thread.
>>30607428
The easiest way to move to the US, if you don't have a million dollars, is to marry an American girl (or man, now).
The next easiest is to enter through Canada on foot, then go missing. Work on a farm somewhere. It would be best if you had relatives to stay with. Then when there's a amnesty for illegals, go and hand yourself in and get that residency.
The hardest way is honestly and legally. One of the regulars at my range moved over from the UK years ago and despite being in full employment, with a load of money and a clean record, was harassed and intimidated throughout his process from resident to citizen.
>>30607397
There's no such law.
>>30607331
Switzerland has a high crime rate, it's just not reported on often.
I enjoyed living in rural Switzerland, but Liechtenstein and Austria were much better. You could not make me live in Bern, Geneva, Zurich, Basel, Sargans or anywhere like that again.
Don't believe me? Go there, to any town or city, and have a walk around.
>>30607452
What happened to him? Has he ever told you anything in detail as to how he got there or what they did to him?
What state are you in? I'm a UK and Finnish citizen so I guess I'd like to know
>>30607466
I literally live in one the the cities you named.
The number of death by firearms rather fucking low when you subtract the suicide, which are technically not homicides
>>30607463
I'll sure remember to say that to the cops who give shooting lessons with me then
>>30607376
ARE MY BLACK POWDER SAFE ???
>>30607446
>More weapons, means more weapons available, which means more weapons used, and more weapons used for crime.
So you propose to eliminate some of the least used weapons for violent crime.
The best part of that shit show of a shitpost is where you call other people idiots, while blatantly bike-shedding.
>>30607521
Literally this
>>30607511
Its all in your hands is the point.
You all have gained the ability to back out when ever you want.
sore losers only want to diminish this after the fact as a American who understands sportsmanship its wholly cringe worthy
>>30607295
I got your back fampai
http://www.coventry.ac.uk/Global/08%20New%20Research%20Section/FINAL%20EFFECT%20PROJECT%20REPORT.pdf
A 600.000€ study, which didn't fit the narrative so it was ignored altgother.
http://www.vlaamsvredesinstituut.eu/sites/vlaamsvredesinstituut.eu/files/files/reports/firearms_and_violent_deaths_in_europe_web.pdf
Even this report made by some Dutch pacifists and queers states that:
>Yet only a rather small selection of these studies has focused on the situation in Europe, partially because gun death rates in Europe are traditionally rather low by global standards.
>a strong downward trend in the number of gun deaths can be observed across Europe. Between 2000 and 2012 the number of annual gun deaths decreased by 19% in Europe over all, with an especially spectacular decrease in gun deaths in Central and Eastern
Europe.
There are 550'000'000 people living in the EU.
About 1000 homicides and fatal accidents are getting caused by firearms each year (I don't count suicides, because what is wrong with suicide anyway? If someone wants to end its life, why stop him. It's his problem.) - which is absolutely negligible.
At the same time there have been 26'800 road fatalities in the EU (source: http://ec.europa.eu/transport/road_safety/pdf/observatory/trends_figures.pdf).
700'000 people die each year in relation to smoking (source: http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-15-5028_en.htm).
Guns should be banned but not cars, motorbikes, cigarettes or alcohol.
>>30607560
But cars, cigarettes and alcohol can't start a revolution against a tyrannical government...get it now?
>>30607560
>someone who actually uses his head
That rather rare here
Thanks you dear anon
>>30607466
Liechtenstein has good gun laws too, doesn't it?
>>30607495
I'm Swiss, too and I live the Bronx of Switzerland (highest number of foreigners, highest number of social welfare dependents, highest unemployment rate, among the highest levels of criminality, etc.). In 75% of the cases where a crime is committed with a firearm, the perpetrator is a foreigner who wouldn't even be allowed to own a firearm. When Swiss citizens commit a crime, then it's usually what we call enlarged suicide, meaning the husband shooting his wife and then himself.
Crimes are reported just as often as in the rest of the EU.
>>30607466
Sargans? Pic related is the hellhole you're talking about. It really looks like a Brazilian favela.
>>30607555
Good job, sempai!
>>30607446
wtf are you doing on /K/ KEK?
>>30607628
lol These fucking cucks crack me up I live in Baltimore MD.....these faggot have no idea.
>>30607446
Your logic is so fucking flawed when you look at the percentages of the type of weapon used for crimes
>>30607510
Yep and tell him to show you where that's written in our law, you moron.
So far you have claimed something that doesn't exist without giving any excerpts of the law proving what you said.
>>30607495
>crime is only murder with firearms
>>30607628
Sargans is literally full of niggers.
>>30607628
Literally a bastion of the race. Stay Swiss, Swissbro.
>>30607698
The whole point of those posts are to talk about firearms crimes dumbass
>>30604861
And what of the countries bordering Russia and Ukraine? Will they have to strip their civilians of weapons?
>>30604906
This
>>30607691
Anon you didn't even knew what was written in the LArm. I'm not here to spoonfeed you. Go buy yourself the penal and civil code and your state's laws records
>>30604906
Orange tips are US only I think
>>30607172
I think a more effective way would be to ignore him, like everyone in his life has done, friends family the whole nine yards. This will guarantee a sad lonely death for our 2/10 shitposting friend here.
>>30607446
Nice try soros.
>>30607698
>Sargans is literally full of niggers.
I'm from Biel/Bienne and I studied in Lausanne. I know what niggers-infested areas are. Sargans isn't one.
>>30607698
>Sankt-Gallen
>having Nigger at all
>>30607976
Bad goyim. Delete this and turn in your guns now.
>>30607452
Where do I find American girls to marry though? Would marry a dude if we can divorce shortly after though. Would gladly do military sertvice too. t. German anon
>Don't have Bill of Rights
>Get fucked by regressive leftists
Loving Every Laugh, euro cucks
>>30604861
Brexit FTW
>>30609397
S-save me!
>>30609426
https://techcrunch.com/2009/06/15/the-%E2%80%98anti-stab%E2%80%99-knife-that-works-just-fine-in-the-kitchen-but-cant-kill-a-man/
