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AR general doesn't seem to be any help with this question, which does /k/ prefer for two piece AR fore grips? A Midwest Industry keymod or a Daniel Defense Omega. Both seem to have their merits.
KAC RAS
>>30576816
FreeFloated handguards. There's a reason 90% of the AR's in /arg/ have a free float handguard m8
>>30576869
Are you referring to choosing a different hand guard or the Daniel Defense?
>>30576869
>There's a reason 90% of the AR's in /arg/ have a free float handguard m8
And that is "muh accuracy" But i dont need a hand guard that is no accuate if i yank on it with a bipod.
I need a hand guard that doesn't dent when i smash it into someones face as hard as i can.
>>30576869
The omega rail uses the stock barrel nut, and comes in two pieces, but it is a true free float handguard.
I like it, and think it's aesthetic as hecks, but it is a quad rail, so it's a heavy cheesegrater and there's very little practical reason to use one these days.
OP here, I'm limited in my decisions for this part as I have a Colt 6920 with a fixed front sight post, and I don't intend to chop it off.
>>30576816
quad rail never
>>30576869
nobody gives a fuck about /arg/
>>30579485
you can just use short ones
Or use Samson which has rails that go around it
So I'm building the cheapest normie attracing gun possible to resell when Hillary unveils her shadow government and the apocalypse happens
Anyone got a 15 inch handguard that's sub $60?
I just bought one for that, but wanted to know of others
Or of other good deals on AR parts
I got gas blocks, an MOE stock, and a TRS25 for $10 each, so I'm on my way to cheapness
>>30579485
Can't you just push the pins out and replace the gas block?
>>30580048
he drinks diet coke and uses Walmart ketchup
You think he has the money for a hammer and punches?
>>30580062
Harbor freight sells tools of the same quality as his diet coke and ketchup
>>30580080
he bought a carbine gassed 16 inch barrel, do you really think he cares?
If he cared about his gun he'd have gotten something other than shit
And his choice in food is a good indicator of his tastes
>>30576869
>There's a reason 90% of the AR's in /arg/ have a free float handguard m8
That reason is because nobody actually uses their shit and buys the same thing because herd mentality. I hope you realize this place is a joke.
>>30580129
You mean like 2 stage triggers?
>>30579485
Check out
https://geissele.com/7-super-modular-rail-mk4-m-lok.html
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-KMR-ALPHA-7-KeyMod-Free-Float-Handguard-p/bcm-kmr-a7-556-blk.htm
or if you want to be pseudo traditional, you can get some kac quadrails but they cost ~$100 used and aren't freefloated. Freefloating is grossly overexagerrated but there really is no reason not to get freeloated rails unless you're on a budget and get an moe handguard.
Manventureoutpost iirc has cheap midwest ind 7 inch quad rails. I'm in your same position with my 16 inch midlength with an a2 sight. I want to get a handguard but don't want to get rid of my a2 sight
>>30580167
>Freefloating is grossly overexagerrated
it's the difference between a 1.5 MOA gun and a .5 MOA gun
![hqdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nk8km59.jpg "hqdefault[1].jpg")
>>30579485
>30579485
>>30580192
>it's the difference between a 1.5 MOA gun and a .5 MOA gun
Not really. I can guarantee most people here don't even bother with shooting at longer distances with match ammo to even see the difference. You literally will not see any improvement at 100 yards from going from a non free float to a free float gun.
Do you even know what MOA is?
>>30580192
No, it isn't. It will help avoid poi shifts from barricade, bipods, or sling tension. Your barrel is your barrel, and a fancy handguard won't change it
>>30580217
>Not really
Proofs?
Because the experts say free floating is the best thing you can do
>I can guarantee most people here don't even bother with shooting at longer distances with match ammo to even see the difference
>implying you have to be at distance to want tighter groups
Okay
>You literally will not see any improvement at 100 yards from going from a non free float to a free float gun.
>Do you even know what MOA is?
Clearly you don't because any improvement will show up at any and all ranges
>>30580238
except it will because of harmonics
jesus it's like noguns just got on the site
>two piece AR grips that connect to delta rings
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
>>30580274
Literally kill yourself for making such a blantantly false bullshit post.
wow /k/ is really nogunz today
do you fags even understand barrel harmonics?
who the fuck would use a bipod on a stupid fucking eight inch handguard? Are you retarded?
None of you people understand barrel harmonics. You just spout endless memes. Freefloating is NOT the only way to obtain accuracy. You guys are too autistic, you think everything has to be this or that. Especially on pencil barrels.
>>30580286
>barrel harmonics are not a thing
>>30580313
but it's by far the easiest
>>30579827
>>30580048
Something to consider, I just don't have any experience in removing gas blocks, and don't feel confident in doing it myself.
>>30580062
You're really going to like my white socks
>>30580214
Or if you want something that doesn't look like complete AIDS...
>>30580238
>No, it isn't. It will help avoid poi shifts from barricade, bipods, or sling tension. Your barrel is your barrel, and a fancy handguard won't change it
Except most people mount their BUIS right on top of the handguard, which means the barricade, bipods, and sling tension will still alter your POI when using them.
>>30580265
Still haven't answered any of my questions. Thanks for playing, glad you don't know what the fuck MOA is.
Next up: Discussing DI and how it shits where it eats
>>30580338
OP you could be my brother only I don't drink pop and I eat a healthier diet, but I wear white socks, and not those short cutoff kind either. Great Value brand, yes I do that too. PSA carbine with all MOE kit because I didn't feel confident removing the gas block and was too cheap to pay someone to do it for me (my town's gunsmiths are known morons too).
>>30580338
>I just don't have any experience in removing gas blocks
literally 2 pins
Make sure to look at both sides as they are tapered and only go one way
>>30580423
>Still haven't answered any of my questions
MOA means minute of angle which is 1.047 inches per hundred yards
Lets round it off for easy measurement at 1
So a 1.5 inch gun will shot
1.5 at 100
3 at 200
4.5 at 300
While a .5 MOA gun will shoot
.5 at 100
1 at 200
1.5 at 300
>>30580398
Which is why they should use a standard or folding FSP if they care about iron sight accuracy
>>30580467
BUIS aren't designed to be accurate
They're designed to be backups
>>30580485
If they aren't accurate there's no reason to even bother having them at all. A busted scope can still act as a not-very-accurate ring sight.
>>30580192
So my A1 will produce one single .223 hole at 100y if I only swap out the surplus triangular handguards with a FF rail? Neat.
>>30580508
>If they aren't accurate there's no reason to even bother having them at all
The whole point is that your gun isn't useless when your optic fails
Even innacurate irons are better than none
>>30580531
See: use your optic as a ring sight, it's an inaccurate iron at that point.
>not that a quality modern optic isn't often tougher than the gun
>>30580519
Did I say that?
No, I didn't, but my .5 MOA PWS sure as fuck won't shoot .5 MOA if I put a delta ring, A2 post, and M16 handguards on it
You need a better barrel to start, then get a free float
non free float handguards will ALWAYS hurt accuracy
There's a reason Service Rifle matches use free floated tubes that connect to traditionally non free floated handguards
https://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=293
>>30580548
>use your optic as a ring sight, it's an inaccurate iron at that point.
holy fuck nigger do you realize how big an optics field of view is?
that's not even fucking close to an iron
You're talking may be a 10 MOA shift at absolute max with irons
>>30576816
get the omega
>>30580548
>a dead optic sight picture is just as effective as irons
This thread is really bad.
>>30580553
>Did I say that?
Did you say that a FF rail was the difference between a 1.5 MOA rifle and .5 MOA rifle? Yeah.
>>30580117
How is 16 inch carbine shit?
I bought a LMT 16 inch carbine earlier and I hope its not going to be shit. (protip: it won't because its a fucking LMT)
>>30580632
It's not so much shit as it is unoptimized. Carbine gas + 16" barrel = lulzy overgassing, with increased parts wear and a sharper recoil impulse. Will that have any impact beyond how quickly you can put out a followup shot and long-term BCG usage? Not really. You just might as well get a 16" middy is the most common deduction.
>>30580632
There is nothing wrong with carbine gassed 16" ars.
There is a benefit to going midlength but it really does not fucking matter very much.
>>30580660
OTOH less chance of a FTF/FTE when using weaker power ammo.
>>30580660
>>30580663
So basically
>mid length is for little bitch arms
>carbine is for people who like to eventually have to replace their BCGs/who enjoy recoil
I have a (big) KAC, SR15 carbine. But I'm a sucker for the classic M4 look.
>>30580706
Even chronically underloaded shit like Tulammo will make a middy cycle reliably. Shit, even a 14.5" middy will eat it up.
>>30580707
Sure anon.
>>30580632
doesn't matter. If you didn't get one yet, the 16" midlength would be the one to go. But it isn't an issue to really switch your carbine 16" over. If you're worried, drop in a heavier buffer.
>>30580707
Not even that
You can buy an adjustable gas block and get the same damn recoil impulse that a middie has.
It just does not really matter.
>>30580742
Why not just get a midlength?
>>30580748
No reason
Im just saying if he already bought a carbine then dont worry about it
>>30579485
>french vanilla coffee
Certifiable retards shouldnt own guns
>>30580742
>>30580754
>>30580663
>>30580577
thx m80s.
Going to get a KAC RAS short rail for it and an aimpoint pro. And I'm going poorfag on the lower. Hopefully my LGS will have a Jolly Rogers spikes' lower in soon.
>>30580761
>confirmed for never having real and, not dunkin shitballs brand, french vanilla coffee
>>30580816
>vanilla showing similar effects on humans compared to breast milk
To hate vanilla is to hate your subconscious and biological connection to your mother and being nurtured.
