Thoughts on and starting a militia? Arming, supplies, logistics, tactics?
I want to buy some land and start and armed commune to protect my freedom from international plutocrats. Too bad most other lefties are pacifist noguns faggots, and the ones that aren't are literal Maoists.
>>30575001
In what ways are you a leftie?
>>30575030
he sucks all the cocks and redistributes the load evenly
>>30575047
lol
>>30575030
I think that economic equality is the best way to maximize personal freedom, especially when coupled with employee control over their workplace (essentially co-operative/communal ownership of factories, farms, businesses, etc.). I'm dead against planned economies though, and for decentralized federative government. I usually use the term "libertarian socialist" to describe myself.
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism
Take a look if you want an overview or my little niche of the political spectrum.
>>30575088
Faggot
>>30575047
>2016
>keeping all the loads to yourself
Selfish and despicable desu.
>>30575088
How are you going to distribute the wealth without a centralized government?
>>30575088
>Against centralized government.
>Against planned economies.
>Libertarian Socialist
Just admit you have no fucking clue what you want.
>>30575142
I don't support forced redistribution of wealth in the classic commie style. I'm for more of a market socialist model like in Yugoslavia. Basically I want to see hierarchical corporate capitalism replace with a free market based on co-operative enterprise, it wouldn't create perfect economic equality but it would be a huge step up while keeping the profit motive intact and giving employees far more control over their own workplace and how they benefit from it.
>>30575162
There are other models of socialism apart from planned economies m8. As far as centralized governments go that isn't necessary for socialism, look at Rojava where their economy is based on small scale communes which double as centers of local politics.
>>30575088
Freedom never, in any case, comes from the government. Lenin, and Marx were demonstrably wrong in their assertion that freedom comes from regulation.
Freedom comes from the subjective individual, not the objective collective. you fucking fail at step 1 of the leninist agenda
>>30575176
That sounds like removing personal reward in favor of a nebulous promise of a better society which is silly
>>30575201
So you want a quasi return to Ancient Greece and City States?
>>30575204
There are cases where regulation protects freedom.
>>30575204
>Freedom never, in any case, comes from the government.
Somebody hasn't read their John Stewart Mill. Under classical liberal theory the state acts as the bulwark of freedom by preventing individuals from stepping on each other's rights. The state in turn is kept in check by equitable and democratic distribution of political power.
In fact the entire point of the state in classical liberal theory is to protect freedom.
>>30575238
can't disagree with that
>>30575212
No personal monetary reward is still very much intact, it just benefits all members of the individual co-operative equally. It's still a competition based free market Anon, except that instead of corporations you have co-operatives that are owned by the employees and divide up the profits evenly.
>>>30575227
Not quite, I'd still keep a federal government around, but it would be a "bottom up" type of power structure, with local governments holding the most power relative to higher levels of government.
Also I should apologize to OP for turning this into a /pol/ thread...
>>30575238
You seem to forget the foundation of democracy is majority rule.
Ill present 2 pieces of info to you without stating my own point.
The Brexit was won by 52% of the "old, white, racist, evil majority of the country" It will preside over large subtractions of wealth from the UK.
The US. 43% supports banning abortion totally. 86% support banning abortion after a heart beat is detected. Abortion after the heart beat is detected is legal in all states of the US and any effort to change that has been struck down
is there a middle ground? Both of these can be taken to extremes. Can we find a happy medium ?
>>30575277
What prevents someone from forming a corporation styled business (which is the most successful kind of business formation) would you use the strong arm of the law to crack down on there business practices because they don't conform?
>>30575235
Tell me how, a collective government agenda has in any time in history, provided true freedom to any free man?
>>30575326
Obviously you're trying to make it sound bad, but I would ideally like to see hierarchical corporate structures eventually outlawed. Before you call me a freedom hating pinko I would invite you to consider the following: How many people even have the capacity (capital/credit or technical knowledge) to start a business? Of that number, how many of them have the desire to start a business? Of that number how many of them would be opposed to the idea of a co-operative enterprise? You're effectively talking about restricting the economic freedom of a pretty small section of society, but in return the average person sees a far bigger share of the profit that they help create, and get an equal say in how the enterprise that they are a part of is run. I would argue that while a small number of people would lose the freedom to start their own corporation, a far larger number of people would have a greater increase in their personal freedom.
>>30575342
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_scrip
>>30575309
>Can we find a happy medium ?
Well I would suggest that most western democracies already have. Certain rights and freedoms are enshrined in a constitution and aren't subject to democratic will (unless amended), and the rest is fair game for the mob.
>>30575407
Huh that actually sounds logical but the reason we have business so ugh 'exclusive' is so we don't have a bunch of shitty business
