Why doesn't /k/ talk about the SIG 510?
>https://youtu.be/c4VVG2NbheA
He calls it one of the best battle rifles ever made.
Pic related.
because theyre almost impossible to get in the US.
>>30568032
Among other reasons because we can't buy them here in Cuckmerica?
>>30568032
Does anyone know where I can get those wood furniture for my Stgw 57?
>>30568032
I've got a Chilean Navy kit out having the Receiver rebuilt now. Only have one Mag for it, but looking forward to getting it back.
>>30568208
The Swiss ones have very cheap mags.
>>30568234
>>30568208
looks like the barrel gets hot as fuck
>>30568245
Why do you say that?
>>30568032
Anything but a sig 556/xi is impossible to get in the US of A
>>30568032
yes but he also calls it light, which the Stgw 57 definitly is not
They are good rifles, accurate and (in switzerland) very cheap
But from a soldiers perspective the G3 or FAL are superior simply because of their weight and price (the Stgw 57 was, at the time, the most expensive infantry rifle ever issued en masse to troops)
>>30568066
The wood furniture is in the export version and the ones biult under license in chile.
Dont know if there is a aftermarked kid or something but i once saw a chilenian for sale. It was four times the price of a normal stgw57
>>30568792
Yeah, but I was wondering if it's possible to put wood furniture like the AMT version on the normal Stgw 57. It would look extremely cool.
>>30568843
the hand guard might work but the stocj probably won't unless you can find it complet with the recoil spring then there's a chance that it might work
but the chileans probably changed some minor measurements and loosend the tolerances so it can't interface with glorious swiss engineering
>tfb tv
>>30568032
why should you buy this instead of something way more common like a FAL, or G3?
>>30568911
Why? Because:
>it's more accurate
>mags are easy to find and cheap
>ammo is easy to find
>costs 300 Swiss Francs, about the same in US dollars
>looks metal as fuck.
>>30568887
This
But i once saw a convertion kit at the gunshow in Luzern
But that was like 4 years ago
>>30569089
You mean this?
>>30569093
YEY my picture was saved!
The /k/ube is pleased.
Any Swissfags around here?
I've heard that some of the parts of Stgw 57 can have cracks.
How do I check this and where are these cracks normally located?
Any other spot that I should check?
>>30569111
Wafm reporting in.
There has been reports of hair fractures behind the Widerlager (the two round bits the bolt locks into.
Else not really.
>>30569121
How do I see those hair fractures? Will a normal flashlight be enough to check them?
Thanks.
>>30568032
>That charging handle
I adore Swiss design.
>>30569111
maybe the pistol grip or the heat shield on the barrel
Handguard and butt stock are made from hard rubber, they might be brittle but i've never seen one britteling
also I've read that you need a special permit to convert it to a commando version, why is that?
>>30569124
Just look at it. :)
Yes, but its not really a big deal. As always the SSV is overreacting.
>>30569131
By law "you make another weapon" hurpedy durr.
>>30569131
>also I've read that you need a special permit to convert it to a commando version, why is that?
Swiss law states that any former military rifle used by the Swiss army cannot be modified without a Ausnahmebewilligung.
As you are aware, SIG also made civilian versions of the Stgw 57 called PE57.
Since the PE57 is PURELY a civilian rifle you can make it into a commando version without any special permits. Only the STGW 57, and STGW 90 (or even any K31 or K11 for that matter) would need a Ausnahmebewilligung.
Same shit applies to the PE90 and Stgw 90.
That guy selling one at Gebrauchtwaffen.ch is a PE57 commando so you don't need a special permit.
>>30569141
Here's a PE57.
With this one you could modify it without any permits.
>>30568032
>He calls it one of the best battle rifles ever made.
And he carries a fucking HK P7 which he admits he only carries 25% of the time.
The kid has more money than sense. He is a hobbyist at best and has no idea what he is talking about. And fuck his little manlet friend too.
>>30569150
>>30569154
If I had 5k just like that to spend on guns, I would buy these two at Waffenboerse and put them on a nice display.
Any SIG rifle that's not a 556 or MCX or whatnot, is unobtainium in these lands nowadays.
>>30569093
Nou a wood kit not a tactical tik
>>30569354
No, but you can buy the AMTs. I have seen several.
>>30568925
>it's more accurate
maybe
>mags are easy to find and cheap
in yurop, yes
>ammo is easy to find
> gp11
> easy to find
like I said before, maybe in europe
but 7.62 NATO sure is more comman than 7.5x55
>costs 300 Swiss Francs, about the same in US dollars
you probably mean the full retard version
>looks metal as fuck
this is one of the most ugliest things I´ve ever seen
and I love the look of the Sten MK2
Can anyone explain those strange barrel bulges, the same that are on the SG550 series as well?
They don't appear on the model from the video but are on many of the pictures in this thread.
>>30569432
It's for rifle grenades.
>>30568925
>ammo is easy to find
>7,5 × 55 mm Swiss
>>30569421
>full retard version
Stgw 57s are all semi auto now and cost 300 CHF.
Tell me why I should get a G3 or a FAL that costs more than 1k and ammo is expensive along with mags and don't have the same type of quality and accuracy?
>>30569577
if you live in switzerland
buy your stg 57
if you live anywhere else
buy a FAL or G3
> ammo is expensive
no
> mags are expensive
nope
> don't have the same type of quality and accuracy
> G3
> not known for high quality and accuracy
another plus point for G3 and FAL: aftermarket parts and accessories
>>30569485
in switzerland you idiot, RUAG even restarted production for the army since stocks started to get low
>>30569606
Yes, stamped sheet metal is well-known as a quality rifle-building material.
>>30569606
mags:
FN FAL
> http://www.gunbroker.com/item/569878884
> http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6027846
around 25 bucks in the US and 10 to 20 bucks in the EU
G3
> http://www.gunbroker.com/item/570332832
> http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6032875
around 20 to 30 bucks in the US and 5 bucks in the EU
SIG 510
> http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5951035
around 40 bucks a piece in the EU, couldn´t find any for the US market
but I read that they would go for around 60 bucks
ammo:
> http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5966644
> http://www.frankonia.de/.308+Win.+Vollmantel+147+grs./Sellier+%2B+Bellot/Ansicht.html?Artikelnummer=114463
both go for around .70 cents per shot
>>30569626
> muh milled reciever!
>>30569624
WE GET IT YOU'RE FROM SWITZERLAND MOST OF US ARE NOT FROM SWITZERLAND SO THIS DOES NOT APPLY
>>30569624
You sure run about 12,7mm Pontifical in the Vatican, dosent make it a common round
>>30569624
>tfw not Suisse.
>tfw i will never grown up with giant bonfires on walpurgis, dressed as the boogeyman, trying to lure him out into the open to steal his gold and put it in my mountain vaults like a reverse leprechaun.
>>30568234
Cheap mags? You serious? I've fired one of those. Some of the mags are milled. Fucking milled mags.
>>30569699
I ordered a bunch for 20 Swiss francs a piece.
Probably the cheapest mags you can get in Switzerland for commonly used guns.
>>30569639
>20-30$
>g3 mags
I used to buy these for like 3-5 at surplus shops, a quick Google search got me a price of 10$.
>>30568032
Maybe because it's basically inexistent in the USA
>>30568032
How are you supposed to talk about something you don't even know exists?
>>30568032
Because its fucking ugly and you cannot modernize it.
>>30569959
It has its own charm in its ugliness. like a fatgirl when you are very drunk, and its very late, and you think no one saw you leave with her.
>>30569959
>urr durr I judge guns for the appearance.
I bet you have a very faggot AR15.
>can't modernize it
Implying it can't be modernized.
>>30569421
GP11 is easy to find but it's seasonal, also Privi makes ammo that is avaliable year round
>>30570050
no, not really
it isn´t just ugly, it´s hideous
pic related
that´s what I would call "charm in its ugliness"
>>30568032
Why does Switzerland like that strange as fuck looking charging handle so much? Look like the rip cord for a goddamn chainsaw.
>>30575173
It's pretty comfy, m8
>>30568032
>one of the best battle rifles ever made
This nigger cannot be serious. This rifle, used by an army that has never and doesn't really actually shoot people, doesn't hold a candle to something like the FAL that has been slogged through the mud by soldiers on every continent for the past half century or so.
>>30575375
What's going on here and why is it so rad?
>>30575429
OC in Switzerland
>>30568032
go away alex
>>30575404
I mean it is obscenely expensive and heavy. Also might be the most accurate battle rifle widely issued to a nation's army but a good chunk of that might be the Swiss ammo autism.
>>30575488
does it really count as OC if you can't load it or fire it to defend yourself?
