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Haven't seen a bp thread in a while. Any cap and ballers around tonight?
Is it just the Remingtons that have the safety notches, or do the Colt reproductions have them too?
>>30540875
I believe it's only the remingtons, the Colts have nipples as far as I know.
>>30540875
some repros do, the originals did not.
>>30540775
1858 stronk
>>30541042
Hello fellow 58er, I am still fairly new to bp. What loads are working for you for accuracy?
>>30541572
Not him, but I usually use 30 grains of 3F 777 under lubed wads and a .454 round ball. It shoots a little high, and somewhere between that and 25 grains is the sweet spot, but it's the most convenient to use 30 grains. Does anyone know if the conversion cylinders are worth it? Part of the fun of bp is trying out different loads, but shooting .45 colt out of it had me curious.
Evening gents. Anyone else /k/olt here?
Anyone ever have one of their nipples get stuck? I tried removing one of mine but it's damn near impossible.
My abomination, sadly he was thrown away by my faggot brother :(
>>30541861
My buddy has a 1858 Remington with conversion Cylinder. It's fun as hell to shoot. Is it worth it though. I'd say so, but it's pricey.
>>30541868
Ah man I want one so bad. Cabelas usually has really good deals and I kick myself for not jumping at the chance to buy one. How do you like yours?
>>30541926
I love it man. Uberti quality is up there. She's not my first bp revolver, but she is my favorite. Got her for $275 from Dixie gunworks. Also bought a colt reproduction powder flask from track of the wolf. Feel awesome when people with their modern guns give me the look.
>>30541968
Black powder is best powder.
First gun ever was an 1858. I bought 3 other black powder guns before I even bought my first modern one. The bug bites you hard. I'm definitely going to grab a colt soon
>>30541861
Okay, thanks. I have tried 30 grains of pyrodex P (fff) and the grouping was about the size of my first and low left. That's with lubed felt wad under .454 ball about 20 feet away. Using 25 grains it tightened up a bit and was a little closer to POA
>>30541868
I haven't had a nipple get stuck yet but I have tried some shot loads out of mine. I didn't paper it though.
>>30541895
how the fuck does the cylinder pin stay in place? setscrew in the side?
>tfw I now want to make one
>>30542374
You can do a set screw. What I did was I built pic related from a slab of matching color Micarta and replaced the loading lever with it. Worked great and I never had to unscrew anything to reload
>>30540775
im here OP, i just started. have a crappy brass frame pietta but looking to upgrade to your steel remington soon. i got mine cheap to see if i would even like it, turns out i love BP. want a flintlock musket and pistol too, but seems not many makers of them
>>30540775
my pietta colt 1851 repro has them
>>30542091
is that birdshot in there? what are your loads for that? how do you keep the pellets in the cylinder?
>>30543500
Do you know any decent flintlock manufacturers?
>>30543534
It is. I was at my cabin and decided to see if it was done before. Apparently it is a known load.
I used 15 grains of pyrodex P (fff), paper wad, lubed felt wad, cylinder filled with 7.5 shot, and a paper wad on top.
I cut the paper wads out of playing cards with a .45 Colt brass that I sharpened up with a little file.
When I was looking for loads they were saying to use #9 shot but I only had 7.5 shells with me.
And 15 grains of powder was the usual load.
I only tried it once and I made sure that the shot wasn't going to come out after each shot. It's definitely something I want to play with more.
I have a question thats not really worth starting a thread for, but i figured you lot might know.
So muzzle loading black powder weapons aren't legally the same as breechloading cartrigde firearms under US federal law, so maximum bore diameter and sbr laws don't apply.
How would it work, legally, to have a muzzle loading light cannon that fires caseless ammunition sort of like a soviet gp-25 grenade launcher but firing solid shot so the ammo isnt a destructive device?
Obviously it isnt very practical, but it could be quite fun. Like a parrot gun, but a lot less hassle to reload.
>>30540775
Straight up flintlock man myself.
Have a couple of BP pistols and a rifle.
I use Swiss BP (FFFG for the pistols, FFG for the rifle, and Null-B for the priming pan).
>>30546601
>>30546601
>muzzle loading
>caseless
You dont say
And it can (and has, in the past) be arbitrarily ruled a DD by the bureau of dog shooting. Expense isnt the only barrier to entry for actual cannons.
>>30546666
>>30546601
Actually, I've just had an idea that you could just manufacture caseless ammo for standard sized light cannons that use a circular primer band that lines up with the touchhole, so it can be set off with a spiked hammer
>>30547274
I was under the impression that the charges were usually pre measured in paper "cartridges" and had holes punched through them through the touch hole.
>>30546490
very cool man, how did it shoot spreadwise? no problems with the wad or shot coming out in other cyclinder tubes from recoil while you were shooting? did you weigh the shot or just fill it up by volume? yours looks like steel shot, but i assume you would want to use lead shot in the future to not ruin the barrel, right?
>>30546156
well, i know pedorsoli makes some good ones, but unfortunately thats the only maker i know, and they are rather limited in what times of models they make
>>30548174
It was lead shot, I just typed the cylinder off. After each shot I re packed the cylinders, they did get loose. It spreads fast, fast enough to where it didn't hit a squirrel in a tree about 20 feet away. I need to work on some loads with different shot to see how it pattern at some point.
>>30548259
>>30548259
hmm, seems like we need to figure out a good wad or way of keeping the shot in place. ill play around with this next time im at the range, very curious myself.
and yeah i imagine the spread would be terrible for anything past 6 feet, really mostly just useful as a mouse/snake/giant mosquito killer
.54 round ball. It is fun to take to the range as it makes everyone stop and look when you fire it
>>30548412
would it work to cast the pellets in a light wax slug that could be pressed into the cylinder, or would that cause too much mess and be a hassle to clean the piece after?
>>30550773
I think that would add to much gunk to it, it's already a dirty hobby.
>>30541861
I have two 1858s with conversion cylinders. They say that they will work drop in right out of the box. This was not true for me, or for anyone else I know who has done it. Generally you have to fiddle with the timing a little bit.
It is totally worth it though.
>>30551575
yeah i figured as much, seems like there should be something along that line to keep the shot tight during firing, some kind of sabot or something.
>>30551653
I wonder how well a 410 wad would work? Or make paper cup wads.
Glad there's a thread when i need one
I've got a pietta 1851 in .44, and i'd like it to take .44 cartridges.
I can't find a .44 cartridge cylinder, they all seem to convert from .44 to some other cartridge. Is there one?
>>30552784
.44 what?
There are many 44 cartridges, with varying diameters.
>>30552807
shit. this is more complicated than i thought.
I dunno, i guess whatever is readily available
I'm new to blackpowder and I honestly know very little. The revolver was given to me by my grandfather, and i like the style of bp revovlers, not so much the actual loading of them.
>>30552856
Find out your bore diameter, find a conversion cylinder for a cartridge within a thousandth of that.
>>30552890
Well shit, apparently I can go fuck myself, i've got a brass frame. I'm told that it wouldn't withstand the pressure.
>>30552936
Of smokeless cartridges, no probably not.
But there is always BP cartridges.
>>30541968
muh Dixie bro. best bathroom reading catalog ever.
Have a .50 Kentucky from them. Even soccer moms love that shit on the 4th - the fire, the smoke, the perceived safety, the watermelonpocalypse
