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>get pulled over for a broken tailight
>officer asks for license and registration
>politely inform officer that I have CCW permit and am carrying, and that I am reaching for my wallet to retrieve my license
>get perforated by the officer 4 times without warning
>bleed out in front of fiance and 4 year old kid
CCW holders, what would you have done in his situation? Or was he fucked either way due to an incompetent trigger-happy cop and the fact he was a decently /fit/ black guy?
If there's no duty to inform then I wouldn't fucking tell the cop I'm carrying. Also pull out my ID and keep it in my front shirt pocket or my hand ahead of time. All cops are pigs, don't take any unneeded risks with them.
The story that girl told is probably straight up bullshit. Because if its not, the cop is in for some extreme negligence and jail time.
In Georgia you aren't required to tell the police you are armed. I holster at 4 o'clock. So I just keep my hands on the wheel, and have my wallet out and in my hands before the cop gets to my car.
I don't volunteer any information. If he or she ask me to get out of the car. I then tell them, while keeping my hands on the wheel. Offering to lean forward, so they can pull my pistol and place it someplace safe.
I also have my phone out and recording video straight to a web service.
Personally, have my wallet (and time allowing, my registration) on the dashboard by the time the officer approaches my vehicle. Hands stay at 10 and 2 until instructed otherwise. I do not fault Castile for not being as overly cautious as me; you shouldn't have to strategize for how to not get murdered by the police.
>>30540405
>you shouldn't have to strategize for how to not get murdered by the police.
why don't other people get this?
>>30540370
as much as I hate to admit it, Im taking everything she said with a grain of salt. Its not like people havent exaggerated in these incidents before out of grief and anger. Not to dis credit her completely but its something to consider
Ive been pulled over before. Did exactly what he did but waited until the cop said "alright you can reach for it". I went for it once straight away and the cop upholstered his weapon and was like
>NO NO NO, just wait until I tell you
sounds like it was another case of poor training resulting in a death
>>30540370
>cops
>facing punishment for their fuck ups
you foolishly still have faith in the system.
>>30540346
It might depend on the state, but I think they can tell you have a CCW license just by looking up your plates.
>>30540387
>>30540405
>cop sees you fumbling with something in your pocket as he's approaching the car
>shoots you through your rear window
Cops do not like to see you doing ANYTHING while they're walking up to you. I got pulled over once for not completely stopping when a school bus was WAY over on the side of the road picking up kids. Long story short, I tried reaching for my wallet while the cop was still walking up to my car. I heard "FREEZE HANDS WHERE I CAN SEE THEM" and when he walked up to my car his hand was resting on his sidearm and he appeared crazy antsy. Scared the fucking shit out of me. Luckily got out of that ticket because the fucker didn't show up in court
Honestly, I see it happening something like this:
>Pulled over by the police
>Officer asks for license and registration
>Inform the officer of a firearm while continuing to reach for my license and registration
>Officer tells suspect to put his hands up upon hearing that he has a firearm
>Suspect continues to reach for license unsure of what the officer wants at this point
>Officer shoots
>>30540316
Fuck you no one gives a shit about some dumb nigger who was reaching around for who knows what when he yelled out "I gotta gun!" and was directly going against the officer telling him to stop reaching and show his hands there are 4 officers dead, 2 in surgery, 3 in critical condition and 2 others wounded and another shoot out just moments ago so fuck you nigger lover. Play stupid games win stupid mother fucking prizes.
Doesn't matter what color you are when you yell I have a gun while reaching for your "wallet" while pulled over.
>>30540482
I see it as the cop yelling put up your hands and shooting at the same time. Because he is poorly trained fuckwad patrol cop.
>>30540316
Seeing how there was a recent shooting in Dallas with several cops shot.
How fucked is Texas?
>>30540540
This happens a lot. Happened to that one black guy, John Crawford, at Wal-Mart when he was carrying around a pellet gun he picked up in the sporting goods aisle.
>somebody called the police saying there was a nigger pointing a gun at kids and threatening people
>police show up
>he's just leisurely wandering the aisles chatting on the phone
>BANG BANG BANG BANG
>"DROP THE WEAPON DROP THE WEAPON"
>he's already dead
>>30540316
There's no CC or OC in Canada, but I always have my wallet out on the dash before the cop is even at my car. I carry a utility knife in my pocket and I don't want to get tased or lit up if he thinks I'm going for a weapon.
I've been pulled over for speeding a dozen times. I never get tickets and I never get perforated. Being respectful goes a long way.
>>30540417
You shouldn't have to, but it's prudent. Police may need more or different training, but in the meantime you should probably be careful.
>>30540614
i did a lot of protest/riot/hostage training in the army.
you have to train out the desire to instantly magdump.
>>30540614
This is true. BLM can rot in hell, and most of these stories are "Black guy acts like a cunt and fights the cops, reaches for a gun, gets shot."
But that Wal-Mart case was a clear cut abuse of power.
>>30540316
>MUH GUN PROTECTS ME
>doesnt do a god damn thing in any situation where you actually don't have the time to calmly take it out because someone else is being attacked and you can act like Rambo
>100% of instances where the conceal carry user is already confronted he ends up dead without 1 defense shot fired
>>30540733
When it's clear cut, nobody hears about it because arguments sell better than clear-cut cases.
>>30540405
1. you have an unalienable right to a gun.
2. cops can shoot you if they think the gun poses a threat.
3. a gun inherently poses a threat.
This seems like a terrible foundation for a safe society, where safety is achieved despite these horribly conflicting rules, not because of them
>>30540740
>>30540488
>you need to act totally subordinate to police in order not to be murdered
I can't believe boot licking faggots like you exist. Do you hate niggers so much because you're a cuck?
>>30540740
almost got me.
>>30540740
>Self defense with a gun always fails
>Which is why they're totally not the statistically best method of resistance or used thousands of times successfully every year.
>>30540417
You shouldn't have to lock your doors to not get robbed either, but it's still a good idea.
>>30540782
cucks like blacks anon.
>>30540733
This, John Crawford was one of the most legitimately disturbing cases this last decade, but it got so little media attention.
>Police INSTANTLY magdumped into him when he was holding the [toy] rifle in a nonthreatening manner
>Happened in fucking Ohio where OC is perfectly legal
>Police got off scot free
>The instigator white trash piece of shit who lied about John Crawford going around terrorizing shoppers with the gun got off scot free
>Both John Crawford and a mother of two died, the latter of which had a fucking heart attack while trying to get her kids out of the store after shots rang out
>Pull over
>Pull out CCW permit and license from wallet, put them on the dash
>Put hands on wheel
>Hand him license and permit, let him ask if I'm carrying
>Let officer make commands
>Stay absolutely still, no abrupt movements
It's not fucking rocket science
>>30540488
What's the white equivalent of a dindu?
>>30540476
last time I was pulled over (in a buddies car) cop saw less than half of my permit tucked away in my wallet and immediately knew what it was.
"Are you carrying tonight, sir?"
>tfw no duty to inform
>>30540840
a chav
>>30540800
>if I'm racist enough, people will forget that I want to eliminate their civil rights
t. cuck
I was under the impression that it is infinitely better to just hand over whatever CCW card you have with your ID and avoid using the words 'gun', 'firearm', or 'I'm armed'.
>>30540674
but are u a black man n america?
didn't think so fgt
>>30540793
there are 2 ppl with guns who got killed today
daily reminder that someone breaking into your home isnt a immediate overtake, you hear the shit and have plenty of time to grab ur gun and setup a defense
thats the only fucking "statistics" you have
>>30540834
>doing anything while the officer is approaching the vehicle
>especially when the officer may have ran your plates and already knows you could be armed
>>30540840
A dindu. If you've ever been around white trash for any length of time you'll know that there isn't a difference.
>>30540840
a [spoiler]policeman[/spoiler]
I'm not even being sarcastic.
>>30540316
Do we have video of the shooting yet, or still just the aftermath?
To answer the question, I already have my shit in hand by the time the officer gets to my door. Should I intend to let him know I'm carrying, that will include my permit.
>>30540861
I'm not sure what the fuck you're on about m8, I was just pointing out that cuckolds specifically enjoy black bulls.
>>30540762
>not keeping your hands on the wheel and announcing that you're going to reach for your wallet prior to reaching
>not skipping that shit in the first place and asking about what to do with your weapon in the first fucking sentence you utter without removing your hands from the wheel
it's like you want to get shot by johnny law after his third cup of coffee this morning
>is this not taught in every ccw class?
Sucks for those of you who didn't have an old man for a teacher
>>30540861
I'm not sure what the fuck you're on about m8, I was just pointing out that cuckolds specifically enjoy black bulls.
>>30540879
Of course not, that would be awful. I'd move to Africa.
>>30540944
>>30540762
at this point I'm just going to quick cuff my hands to the wheel.
>>30540405
how bout dont get pulled over in the first place
>>30540916
Holy shit.
>>30540965
not a bad idea
>make sure they're pink and fuzzy
>>30540713
Glad to know I've never had to deal with that kind of problem. What kind of drills do you do to practice not doing that kind of thing?
>not drawing before the pig walks up to your car and magdumping through the door
>>30540988
a lot of time in the simulator.
then, if your unit is awesome or MP. you get to do it with MILES and then simunition. shooting other soldiers playing opfor and civilians.
I can't believe all of you dig around for wallets, lean over to glove box etc. before being asked. One, it seems like a damn good way to get shot, Two until they ask, why assume they're even interested in you? Whipping out you id n shit seems like a pretty clear admission of guilt.
>>30540916
>entitlement? check
>armed? check
>prone to fits of violence? check
>close ranks when under scrutiny? check
>pretend to contribute to community's well-being while harrassing the everyman and making everybody feel uncomfortable (except those with connections) check
I understand the need for law enforcement, but as it currently stands, the cops are just another gang.
>>30541091
>>30540916
>>30541034
This is why I don't get out anything until asked.
>>30541111
refute my point, then we can talk.
PS i wear Scala, in case you were thinking of getting me something.
>>30541088
>lean over to glove box etc
You dumb fuck, you don't leave your registration in your glove compartment, you keep it in you wallet where it can't be stolen along with your car.
>>30541088
>Two until they ask, why assume they're even interested in you? Whipping out you id n shit seems like a pretty clear admission of guilt.
It's a traffic stop, driver always gets asked for license and registration.
>>30541091
All my lawyer buddies refer to law enforcement as "The Blue Mafia"
>>30540794
Doesn't mean you deserve it when you do get robbed
>>30540417
if you don't strategize when dealing with the police, then you deserve to get shot, nigger.
>>30540794
>comparing cops to criminals breaking into your house
>>30540488
>It's okay for cops to murder law-abiding CCWing gun owners because across the country a few cops got shot (Ann entire day afterward I might add)
>>>
>>30541132
>carry gun
>officer tells you to go for wallet
You tell him you have gun
>he shouts don't move>you instinctively throw your hands up
>he magdump into your arm and you bleed out with your gf and daughter in the back seat
The cycle continues
>>30541164
Lawyers are pieces of shit too so that doesn't mean much.
>>30541314
takes one to know one right?
wait for it....
>>30540824
>>30540733
It happened because the person calling 911 lied about what he was doing, and made police think he was an active shooter.
>>30541230
>>30541354
They also didn't seem to notice the lack of gunshots or horde of people running away if he was gunning people down in the store.
Hell, we live in an age of swatting. Does it only take someone lying on a 911 call for an innocent to die and somehow the cops can't observe for like 3 seconds before shooting? How many crazy ass gun control advocates have we seen muse sociopathically about getting OCers (or unlucky CCers) killed by lying or yelling about a shooter so the cops can kill them?
Do we really think this is okay? I'm not telling cops to wait until they get shot here, but seriously, can they not observe the situation at all before gunning someone down? Dispatch reports aren't holy scripture.
>>30541446
All I know is that the guy who called lied so much that they arrested him.
Don't know what the details were, man.
I could definitely imagine a scenario where the cops would be correct in shooting immediately, but I don't know what exactly happened.
>>30540861
Chill the fuck out, Cliven Bundy. There's a difference between wisdom and sucking the police state's cock.
>>30540449
I'd just tell the popo if they want my gun, they're going to have to get it.
>>30540472
>murdering a black guy is considered a fuck up
>>30540488
>there are 4 officers dead, 2 in surgery, 3 in critical condition and 2 others wounded
and nothing of value was lost
In the future well all be beautiful blond white ladies who don't get shot for reaching for our wallets too soon.
>But seriously if you take nothing away from this week's shit show remember that guns just by being mentioned escalate a situation.
>If you dont take owning guns.seriously you should just throw your shit in the lake.
>>30540861
>their civil rights
They got none
And the "civil rights" movement was about abolishing the rights of whites.
Fact: "I defended niggers on the internet" Won't save you from a nig murderer.
>>30541704
Just wait, they'll have somehow managed to shoot the good, even-handed cops who don't cause anyone any trouble and barely write tickets. Leaving the force in the hands of people who think Joffrey did nothing wrong.
>>30540417
You don't need a gun, the cops will defend you.
You don't need a to exercise, death is inevitable.
Prepping is stupid, you have entire grocery stores full of food.
Condoms are for losers, just pull out.
In a perfect world, the world would be perfect. Guess what? It's not.
>>30541268
Plenty of /k/ turns straight-up bootlicker as long as it's a black guy getting wasted, it's been that way as long as I can remember, though it got much worse after /pol/ was created as a proud bastion of stormfaggotry.
>>30541901
>Won't save you from a nig murderer.
You know that if you're white, you're FAR more likely to get killed by another white, right? In 2011 84% of murders against whites were by other whites.
Probably not something you'd know, it's a fact that stormies and Trumpsters (same shit) always seem to forget when they're cherry-picking crime stats.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6
>>30541901
>civil rights movement was about taking rights away from whites
That's it. I've heard it all
>>30540316
Step 3 you have listed includes "and that I am reaching for my wallet..."
WRONG.
After you inform a cop you are carrying and have a permit, with your hands firmly locked onto the steering wheel at 10 and 2 o clock, you ask politely "How do you wish for me to proceed, sir?"
>>30542343
And as a black man your FAR more likely to get killed by one of your black brothers... so where does that leave blacklivesmatter?
>>30540316
Orlando shooting = They should have had guns!
this would never have happened!
Philando = He never should have had a gun!
This never would have happened!
Make up your fucking minds
>>30540346
this
never tell a cop you have a weapon they freak out and shoot you and your 4 year old dies when the cop misses.
cops are pigs protecting the jews, they aren't protecting anyone but rich criminals.
This is exactly why CC'ing is a stupid idea. Risk far outweighs the benefit. You have one brain-fart and reach for your wallet like you always do and you get shot and killed by a jumpy ass cop.
>>30542788
Hurry DA JOOOS
>>30542785
what
>>30540988
That's what stuff like Hogan's Alley is for; training not just marksmanship, but split-second shoot/don't shoot decision-making.
>>30540316
>politely inform
where is any evidence of this? as usual we only see the aftermath of what happened
>>30542421
Supposedly the cop asked for his drivers license and registration etc.
And that's when he reached for his wallet.
>>30542343
THAT"S THE FUCKING POINT YOU STUPID FUCKING RETARD.
BLACK PEOPLE ARE NOT KILLED BECAUSE OF RACISM
YOU STUPID NIGGER
>>30540316
The same reason why you only give the officer need to know information, such as license, car registration and nothing else.
>>30540316
I would have asked if he would like me to step out the car, and let him remove the weapon from holster. Doesn't need to be a thing. Idk if there was audio, but I imagine it being more like him saying he had a ccw on him by saying "I have a gun" <reaches for gun>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3SHNjsajzs
>>30540316
>politely inform officer that I have CCW permit and am carrying, and that I am reaching for my wallet to retrieve my license
For some reason after seeing his facebook posts, the language barrier between ebonics and English probably confused the officer.
>>30540346
in which states does a CCW holder have a duty to inform?
>>30541354
People can get pretty fucking scared when they don't know whats going on and see a gun. Its conditioning from the media.
>>30540316
is louisiana a duty to report state?
if not, he can find the gun on the patdown or preferably never. telling a cop about your gun in a state without a duty to report CC leads to shit like a cop murdering you because he doesn't understand "I've got a gun" is not a threat.
>>30543855
This was in Minnesota, but no he didn't have duty to report. Just did it out of courtesy
>>30540370
Story that I heard her tell
>>30544103
Hit submit, got distracted. The story I heard her tell was that he told the cop he had a ccw and license, and then reached for his wallet before being prompted. Cop shot him because he said. "...I have a gun...", and then reached for it.
>>30540883
Stop playing the retard.
>>30540690
Hmm, more training, or just to be held accountable when they break the very laws they swore to uphold.
>>30540824
Jesus fucking Christ, makes me think about Eric Garner. He was choked to death by an officer while complying completely. Murdered by a cop for selling cigarettes without a license. I blame the media, and school systems for this bullshit. Growing up they lied to us, and told us cops were "good guys" and "heros". What a load of shit.
What are the chances someone from /k/ did this?
>>30540316
I wouldn't be a stupid nigger or a felon for starters you b8lord
There were illegal drugs in the car.
He was operating a motor vehicle possibly on drugs, armed, with women and children. He was putting them at risk before anything started there is probably way more going on than he got shot.
Video doesn't show if he announced to the officer he was going to move his hand to where, just that he was armed and made a quick movement.
>>30544308
>felon
you got the wrong nigger
>>30544313
Source?
And are we talking white lightning or dude weed lmao
>>30544313
>There were illegal drugs in the car.
Excuse me?
>>30544320
That's what I read in the news from multiple news sites.
Personally I don't have an opinion about the entire thing aside from I think the guy gave a reason for the police officer to react.
>>30544341
What drugs were they?
De-Dee!
De-DEE!
De-DEE-de-de-dee-dee!
Dee-DEE-Dee! De-de-dee!
>>30544344
Common psychoactive substance from what I heard.
Illegal mind altering substances are just black and white mind altering substances in my book.
>>30544367
>Illegal mind altering substances are just black and white mind altering substances in my book.
dude
are you high
>>30544367
>Common psychoactive substance from what I heard.
So, a cup of coffee?
Are you just flinging generalizations out there or do you actually have fucking sources to back your accusation up?
In the video the cop sounds completely hysterical.
Probably another example of cops going "oh jesus a black guy" and opening up.
>>30544313
>tiny bit of pot
>execution justified
lel, you guys will use anything to rationalize a police shoot
>>30543800
California
>>30540316
you never tell a cop you are carrying a gun, you never say the word gun, you just hand him a copy of your license to carry, then your drivers license, then let the cop do the talking/bossing around/power trip shit they get off on doing
>>30544416
No.
Both of my parents have California CCWs, and I took the class once (didn't go through with it because I moved out of state soon after) and no, you don't need to inform.
In fact, they suggested that you never mention it at all if you're traveling through the liberal (SF, LA, coastal) areas because the cops will try to arrest you over anything because they don't like the fact that conservative sheriffs actually give out CCWs in other counties.
>>30540476
And you ccw fags still don't think getting a ccw essentially puts you in a registry that all cops can check.
>>30540316
I carry in AZ. Once got a speeding ticket driving the 8 from Phoenix.
Officer approached my passenger side after pulling over, asked the usual questions, I got out my wallet from my front pocket and the shit from the glovebox. He saw my permit next to my ID, asked if I was currently armed, I said no (rifle in the trunk from a day shooting at yotes).
That was that. I asked if that was a common thing around here for people to drive while armed and he said not uncommon but not common either, and he'll ask if he notices anything, but the point of conceal is to conceal it and if its in your own car and you aren't twitchy he doesn't need to know about it unless he wants to search you.
>>30540840
Niggerism is a mentality not Not a skin color. White niggers are just as bad as black niggers.
I remember these trailer trash method heads that sold my buddy weed. They were his cousins and they looked down on Crack smoking niggers. They were just the other side of the coin.
>>30544430
Not in most states.
Free states that are Shall Issue basically just record your name and address.
Masshole reporting. Here they take your picture and all of your fingerprints before the State Police issues your license (once they get around to it). All firearms transfers through licensed dealers are registered.
I live in a pro-Trump, Shall Issue town (because MA gun laws are slightly less retarded than CA) so getting an unrestricted license wasn't hard. In most cities here, they basically don't even allow you to possess a firearm outside of your home, even if you own a business in a high-crime area.
>>30544409
I don't care if it's pot or heroin when it comes to illegal mind altering substances.
I think you drug addicts will do anything to rationalize doing criminal things being okay because you want to get away with it.
>>30544482
>They were his cousins
Why does everyone always seem to have at least one trashy cousin somewhere in the States?
>>30544531
The state is not your friend. A cuck like you would give up his guns if the state made it illegal. Gtfo
>>30544531
Ok man, thanks for the contribution
>>30544546
I have a little cousin that was a spoiled asshole
His parents sent him to military school as punishment a few years ago
>>30544531
I love seeing braindead law-and-order conservatives on /k/ because they equate the law as it is with the pinnacle of morality. You do realize, don't you, that a great deal of the crime in this country is caused by drug prohibition and legalization would go a long way to minimizing our relatively high rates of murder and violent crime? You do also realize, right, that the only reason the drug war still continues is because it's very profitable to all the people employed by the criminal justice industrial complex?
Besides, will you treat violators of what seems at this moment to be inevitable gun control laws the same way as you treat violators of drug law? If the GOP lost big in November, would you treat violators of a new assault weapons ban the same?
Regardless, was pot worth a man's life? I know what you'll say but we humans capable of empathy will side against you.
Also I don't do drugs so fuck off, subhuman.
>>30541268
This is now my favorite Pepe of all time
>The spice must flow
>>30541446
I'm probably talking out of my ass here, but I keep getting reminded of that quote from BSG
> There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.
And we are definitely militarizing the police. It seems like the relationship between people and the PD's is just becoming more antagonistic as time goes on.
>>30541164
defense lawyers are the scum of the earth
>>30544556
Save your rhetoric for the office chair bound /pol/ ranters please.
Your guns and anti-statist ideology probably does way more harm for firearm owners than anything. It doesn't refute anti-gunners, it probably doesn't win any brownie points with authorities that are pro-gun.
It just makes you sound like a dangerous bumpkin to most people.
>>30544578
You know what, I've seen way too many drug users that are the problem. Even if they get their way to go around doing what they do, they'll still do shady shit and try to hustle people they don't outright try to rip off.
yeah yeah he just wants to smoke his weed and sit on his couch, didn't do nothing wrong, sure.
>>30544367
Fuck off retard
>>30544603
archaic
>>30544610
Clearly the issue is the person, not the drugs
Just like how it's the niggers or cops fault, not their guns
>>30544624
Maybe it is the person, the mind altering substances sure go a long way toward not helping their cause.
I'm legitimately surprised how many people get their feelings hurt hearing it.
>>30544618
Go tell that to people in California. Sounds real archaic there lately.
>>30544628
Sure, addicts may not be the most fun people, but casual use is far from addiction.
Besides, I'm willing to bet big that any harm that man could have caused his family from pot is eclipsed at a cosmic scale by the damage caused by seeing your wife/father shot to death right in front of you by the people ostensibly meant to protect you.
>>30544710
Police go out of their way to protect people, god bless them for that. It isn't their job though. Their job is to enforce the laws. You're responsible for protecting yourself.
I think someone putting their family at risk over an illegal thing that's considered mostly harmless is very irresponsible on their part.
I won't even get into casual vs. addicts because no matter how intelligent or reasonable a person they probably don't know the line between the two and I'm not an expert on the subject.
>>30544628
>>30544628
u aint versed enough to malign the tenets of ur assumed, imagined anti statist. u pathetically, hilariously n cynically tilt @ windmills where they aint even stand, n ur cali comment was incongruous 2 my naming of ur crusty over confident misplacing of anti state values as archaic
wht cld possibly possess u 2 assert (and on their behalf lol) tht tha tru anti statist gives any typa fxck bout tha "just for hunting" "gun owner", epic logic debate refuting tha sjws on facebook, presenting as socially in-fashion, or most laughably earning? tha support? of the nra??? besides a grossly weak grasp of tha material @ hand
>>30540316
I wouldn't have mentioned that I was carrying because cops are incompetent scaredy cats. But if I were in a state that required me to disclose that info to the cop then I'd put my hands on the dash before the cop showed up, and then keep my hands on the dash while awaiting instruction, and making eye contact so the cop could perceive my intentions.
>>30544742
Posts must be in English and intelligable you fuck.
>>30544723
>Police go out of their way to protect people
lel
>>30544742
Maybe you should clarify what you mean before starting an argument.
>Note to self: filter trips.
>>30544610
It really depends on the person alone. If they're a violent person then they'll likely be a violent drug user. If they're normally calm they'll still likely to be calm (or paranoid) if they get high. But truth be told in the end shit like pot would and probably most definitely make an individual order $420 worth of food to down their "munchies".
>>30544762
increasingly archaic
/k/ truly a time capsule
>>30544723
Almost literally everything you say is wrong. Your 'risk' is merely theoretical and alarmist unless you mean the risk being an encounter with overzealous law enforcement who, like you, somehow believe consumption of a plant for recreational/medicinal purposes, one of the lightest possible drugs there are, warrants a heavy hand and swift justice.
Besides, the pot was found after the shooting, they didn't pull him over for suspected drug violations but a broken tail light. Are you supportive of a police habit of desperately searching for a justification for killing a man after they've already done so?
It's also hilarious to see you rail against addiction and the dangers of illegal drugs when alcohol is legal for everyone over the age of 21 and is widely abused and contributory to a great deal of crime, domestic violence, and overall and widespread harm.
Lastly, you have to be blind to pretend that cops are decreasingly tolerant of taking risks to themselves. The first rule of policing has made cops into trigger-happy, paranoid, and inept killers. Despite a long trend of decreasing crime and overall safety, cops are trained to believe their lives are at risk every moment of the day. I wonder how many people have been needlessly killed over Dinkheller paranoia. Married with a blind deference and misplaced hero worship, cops are untouchable. All of these factors coalesce into a toxic police culture where the lives of common citizens are irrelevant.
The fact that you can say, without any hint of remorse, that police don't exist to protect but enforce merely proves the point of me and countless other concerned Americans. If we are supposed to, as you say, look out for our own well being, how are we at all capable when the law puts the most well-armed and least accountable members of society in opposition to that safety? Laws should only exist to protect society. If the law harms more people than it protects, why does it even exist?
>>30544771
@ best only weakly addressin tha part bout cali while accusin me of "starting" sum w a Reply, fair nuff, i assumed u cld glean tha thrust of "archaic" based onna context but i axed 2 much
>>30544781
>The fact that you can say, without any hint of remorse, that police don't exist to protect but enforce merely proves the point of me and countless other concerned Americans. If we are supposed to, as you say, look out for our own well being, how are we at all capable when the law puts the most well-armed and least accountable members of society in opposition to that safety? Laws should only exist to protect society. If the law harms more people than it protects, why does it even exist?
Police are individuals, you're very selfish if you think they are there specifically to protect you. There is no good reason why he should have to throw himself in front of bullets for you.
If you got a problem with the laws write your local political representative.
>>30544791
o rly?
>>30543395
Just leave him be. This fucking (((leftist))) nigger defending shit can't even interpret his own data correctly.
Yes, two blacks got killed that did not have to die. The same happens to whites as well and spics. You are letting yourself get played by the jew run NAACP. Statistics tell the entire story of who kills who, the media bias tells the story of who they want to anger and divide. Have you ever googled "white kid shot by police" when white homeless people get murdered, no protest movement gets funded. Soros and his cronies are after you retards. This happens to all races, don't look at the how, look at the why. And not why isnhe killed, why does it get so much attention. Soon your cops will retreat, knowing they are being hunted. You are going in the South Africa direction. Transit cops getting murdered by niggers just because they wear an uniform. That is the future you choose. I hope you elect Trump, with another divider as president, you will fall apart over constant race issues.
>>30544781
Their lives are at risk though.
/pol/ hates the faact he got shot by the way. /pol/ hates the attitude of the majority of niggers. Dorner, Zimmerman, Carson, Sotomayor. All highly liked and respected in /pol/ fir their believes, skills and mindset. They have a less racist attitude towards these matters than their governor, obongo or many of the posters here for that matter
>>30544781
>The first rule of policing has made cops into trigger-happy, paranoid, and inept killers. Despite a long trend of decreasing crime and overall safety, cops are trained to believe their lives are at risk every moment of the day. I wonder how many people have been needlessly killed over Dinkheller paranoia.
I'll take Dallas massacre for 200.
>>30542788
>protecting the jews
>>>/pol/
back to your containment board
>>30544826
>There is no good reason why he should have to throw himself in front of bullets for you.
Hmm, strange. I distinctly remembering you saying something else
>Police go out of their way to protect people, god bless them for that.
So which is it? And you didn't answer my question as to why the law needs to exist if it serves no one.
>you're very selfish if you think they are there specifically to protect you.
Selfish? I'm selfish for thinking laws should exist to serve the people and the nation as opposed to give idle cops something to do, at the cost of the rest of our lives? Are you insane? Are you deranged? Do you have a single shred of empathy? Are we citizens just playthings to you, pawns to be shuffled about and killed occasionally because you're bored and a bill written by the most out of touch rich assholes we could find says so?
>>30544862
A single incident is not proof that cops are under siege. This is blowback from years of cops refusing to acknowledge their complicity in unnecessary death and the ruination of innocent lives. This single event will be responsible for a significant bump in 2016's police deaths in the line of duty precisely because police deaths are so rare.
Regrettable as it may be, this was entirely foreseeable and frankly inevitable. Police, nationwide refused to atone for their sins, insisting every single time that an innocent dies or has their life ruined that it was entirely justified. This is blowback. You can't beat every kid on the playground for months, then cry that you're being bullied when the other kids get tired of your bullshit and punch back. Hell, prior to this actual bout of violence, the nation's cops insisted there was a 'war on cops' simply because people wanted more oversight over their power to kill. If people filming them with their iphones was a war, what will they call this? Armageddon?
You reap what you sow.
>>30544894
>thinks hes being oppressed
>tries to justify attacking police for doing their job.
Sure pal, you keep on believing this.
>>30544894
http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/daifacts.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/
Literally thousands of cops are attacked every year, just a few get killed because they have back up and armor.
Please show me the evidence you surely have of the 11 dallas victims being incompetent, violent, rule breaking cops.
You DO reap what you sow, and this event just GUARANTEED every cop in the US is going to be even more paranoid and quick to defend themselves from possible threats. (Like someone saying they have a gun and then reaching into a pocket)
>>30541156
>you keep it in you wallet where it can't be stolen along with your car.
No, you dumb fuck, your registration isn't your title. If your registration gets stolen it means jack shit, DMV can print you out a new one. There's not a single reason not to keep it in your car.
>>30542343
>you're more likely to get killed by your own peer group
groundbreaking
>>30544894
>So which is it?
Just how selfish and entitled can you be. You think a police officer should throw his life down for you and not be able to go home and see his family ever again because some
>out of touch rich assholes who write the laws says so
as you so eloquently put it pay him to be an officer?
Have you considered it's their decision if they want to protect you, and them doing so really is going out of their way. It's their call how they enforce the laws.
It's rather amusing you accuse me of lacking empathy.
You seem totally fine with people killing police officers.
>Killers go out to kill innocent people, police might kill them.
You honestly have a problem with that?
One less.
Every one cut down is one less to deal with during the coming war.
That's not what happened though, he said he had a gun and then reached for his pocket
>>30544995
This. The nigger knew what it was doing.
Chinese brothers, stand tall.
>>30542343
>You're more likely to be killed by your own group
In other news, water is wet.
The problematic part is that blacks kill whites more than the other way around.
>>30544977
I dont really know the origin of this argument as i havent read your comment chain but
>You think a police officer should throw his life down for you and not be able to go home and see his family
Is really fucking stupid if i understand what your saying.
If you dont want to risk your life for the public you protect, dont be a cop.
If you dont want to heal people you dont like, dont be a doctor.
If you dont want to work on machines you dont like, dont be an independent tech.
Do the fucking job thats expected of you or dont be involved in that job, real simple shit.
>>30545000
Which is why we should strike back.
This is our chance, defending our families in one fell swoop.
>>30544902
>>30544932
You both are retards. Where did I say it was justified. I saw it was inevitable, I also called it regrettable.
It's tragic because none of the cops shot had anything to do with Baton Rouge or Falcon Heights. It's tragic also because Castille might very well have been the catalyst, the needless and gruesome death no one could justify.
And then this happened. Good luck getting any police reform now.
>thinks hes being oppressed
>tries to justify attacking police for doing their job.
I never said I was personally oppressed. In fact, I've lived a relatively calm and stable middle class life. The difference is that I have empathy for those who get caught in the meatgrinder. Also you are either deliberately making a strawmen or you're an idiot.
>Please show me the evidence you surely have of the 11 dallas victims being incompetent, violent, rule breaking cops.
I never said they were, and I never said their attacks were justified. Reading comprehension, /k/ is really lacking in it, I see. Either that or people love to distort your argument to say things you didn't say.
>>30544977
>Just how selfish and entitled can you be. You think a police officer should throw his life down for you and not be able to go home and see his family ever again because some
No one forced him to be a cop. No one put a gun to his head and made him take the job. If he's so scared that he has to shoot an innocent every once in a while (and cover it up or justify it with every trick in the book) then maybe he should find a different line of work.
>It's their call how they enforce the laws.
No it fucking isn't and you're doing a brilliant job illustrating the problem. They work for us. Without taxpayer money, their jobs and pensions wouldn't exist.
>>30544999
Burn in hell, scum.
If it can happen to him it can happen to you. Gun owners who blindly revere and defend the actions of cops will likely find themselves at the same end of a gun eventually.
>>30544995
Ehhh, he reported is CPL and stated he was going for his wallet, then the cop lost it.
That's pretty shitty police work.
>>30544994
Whose side will the midgets be on?
>>30545016
No I'm pointing out the fallacy of "you reap what you sow" when the police haven't been reaping anything aside from criminals.
Hence you're an idiot for trying to justify a massacre.
And our reading comprehension is fine, your grammar and sentence structure needs work.
>>30540477
That's fucking insane. Every time I've been pulled over for speeding, I get my wallet from my pocket and reg/insurance papers from the glove box and have it all layed out on the dash by the time he gets to my car. At worst they should keep one hand on their holster while approaching.
We finally got the picture of the hero who will lead us the the war we have been craving, Officer Jeronimo Yanez
Hispanics are based as fuck, first Zimmerman now Yanez.
>Inform someone you have a gun AS YOU ARE REACHING FOR SOMETHING
>>30540840
"Anoma Ratts"
>>30545084
Can't Mezz with The Yanez
>>30542343
Blacks kill a white person every20 hours in america.
>>30545009
>Do the fucking job thats expected of you or dont be involved in that job, real simple shit.
Clearly you don't understand how the world works.
If you want corrupt police, go ahead and offer dangerous work for low pay. Enjoy your Mexico/Brazil type country.
>>30545016
then maybe he should find a different line of work.
Maybe they should. Maybe you should be doing it then. Why is it your not a politician or police officer? Obviously you must have some type of qualification that's so important another human should die to protect you. What makes your life so valuable that others are more responsible for it than yourself?
>>30545112
Which is why the tables should be turned.
>>30545050
>Hence you're an idiot for trying to justify a massacre.
Once again you prove yourself to be retarded. I said it was expected and inevitable, not that it was justified.
Every time someone who didn't have to die gets killed by a cop bullet (or other means) they are instantly defended by legions of cops. "Procedures were followed" and whathaveyou. When the unions and fraternal orders rally around quite evidently bad actors, when department procedures were followed but innocents still lying bleeding in the gutter, when every single fucking mistake or crime a cop commits is rationalized or ignored by all his fellows and superiors, it sends a message. It tells the people that it's not a few bad actors, it's not limited to a sorry few who can be removed, it's the system itself.
It was inevitable then, I said, that this would happen eventually. Day after day hearing of needless deaths, each and every time written off as necessary, it wears on people.
The very fact that you (or another person in this chain of responses) tried to justify Castille's death over an insignificant amount of pot (found after he was already dead) tells us all we need to know.
I honestly don't know why I'm still arguing with you. You sound like a sociopath. You refuse to even possibly consider the perspective of the throngs of dead and maimed (until they wear a badge, a group also much smaller than the former).
>>30545115
>What makes your life so valuable that others are more responsible for it than yourself?
Well, Castille was killed for having the gall to look out for his own defense. Hence, the concealed carry permit. We can't be responsible for our own defense if it's simultaneously a death sentence.
At the same time, what makes a cop's life so valuable that any time he fears (reasonably or not) for his life that the people around him must die? Why must we die so they who volunteered for this line of work return to their families?
>>30540488
Either a cop or a cuck. Either way, just know that I would, if given the chance, execute you for the traitor to your country that you are.
>>30540488
No one cares about your dead cop waifu you fat piece of shit.
>>30540674
I'm pretty sure there is actually CC in Canada, it's just called Authorization to Carry, and requires a solid reason as to why you need a gun and not just cops. It's usually what armored truck guards have, and other civilians with similar jobs
>>30545079
The heroes of Hastings, Minneapolis
>>30540922
>reach for your wallet
BANGBANGBANGFREEZEDROPTHEFUCKINGWEAPONBANGBANGBANGPUTYOURHANDSABOVEYOURHEADBANGBANGBANGWHYAREYOUNOTCOMPLYINGWITHMYORDERSBANGBANGBANG
>>30545158
>Well, Castille was killed for having the gall to look out for his own defense. Hence, the concealed carry permit. We can't be responsible for our own defense if it's simultaneously a death sentence.
>At the same time, what makes a cop's life so valuable that any time he fears (reasonably or not) for his life that the people around him must die? Why must we die so they who volunteered for this line of work return to their families?
He had illegal drugs and a weapon, it's way over reactionary to say what happened with castile is how everyday works. your responsible for yourself if you're armed or not, no amount of laws or other people there to help you with that are ever going to change that fact.
A lifes value, well I'm just done talking with you about that. Someones life loses value to you as soon as they have a job. Equality really isn't a word you live by quite clearly.
>>30545232
So Sez The Yanez
>>30541901
It's amazing the level of Internet connection that trailers can get these days
>>30544313
>he had illegal drugs in the car, he was armed and dangerous
>tiny amount of marijuana found in car
You know anon, caffeine is a proven mood-altering stimulant. And you post on a weapons board, so you're very likely armed.
Maybe someone should magdump your whole family when you go for a cup of coffee in the morning. You know. Just in case.
>>30545158
I'm not the guy from the chain of responses, your wording makes it awfully clear you approve of shooting police for doing their job. You seem to have this idea that most shootings are unjustified, and the mentality of police loyalty is toxic, police unions are, but not other cops rushing to defend a peer.
It's not the system if most of the shootings are justified.
I just put my wallet in my console so if i get pulled over i don't need to reach anywhere
>>30545016
>I never said they were, and I never said their attacks were justified.
>Police, nationwide refused to atone for their sins, insisting every single time that an innocent dies or has their life ruined that it was entirely justified. This is blowback.
There you go. Dallas police had no involvement in any recent shootings, of course they are not going to "atone for their sins" since they didn't commit any.
> "retards", "strawmen"
Are you mentally ill or just an 8 year old who does not know how to debate without hiding behind insults and buzzwords?
>>30545317
Well, ive trained (both with and held) security soldiers and police officers as an MP in Sweden. What i see is a lack of training in basic conflict handling and deescalation, and in all, what we call a violence staircase (pic related). Meaning, that it is the police in question that generally escalates the conflict rather than responding to it, though of course, this has both ups and downs and i'll be the first to say that.
Of course, Im fully aware that what works in Sweden can't directly apply to the US, you have much more violent and armed people, plus a fear of the police instead of respect (again, talking generally). If it was up to me, i would definitively seek a complete rehaul of the PO education system as in my opinion, it's a lose-lose negative spiral. That is, civilians get more fearful and antagonistic towards the police, which then is responded to by applying more and sooner resorting to, violence.
Again, im not talking down US police officers, most do a very fine job, but to a person armed with only a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
>>30540316
My wife would have drawn while the cop was distracted, and during her hysterical reaction to my murder she'd have sent the cop off to meet me in hell. None of this letting him bleed out shit, either. Three center mass and two in the head. We don't have any kids so there's no worries there.
>>30541279
nigga kept reaching, informing the officer that he was getting his wallet
officer ordered him to stop and keep his hands up
nigga keeps reaching, saying "im just getting my wallet, sir"
cop orders him, again, to not reach for anything, nig keeps reaching...
it's a shitty situation, and i wish nothing had happened to him, but he should have just done what the officer asked when asked.
>>30542785
>trying to pull a gun on the cops is the same thing as stopping some goatfucking Haji trying to kill you
Go back to Facebook and hang yourself
>>30546383
This. Under no circumstance does a dindu need a gun.
>>30540740
You're a crock of shit.
Here's one outnumbered, and outgunned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iFo1TrYMq4
>>30546431
Phil was likely not a dindu.
He had a job and was reportedly engaged to his babbymama
>>30540740
>I will now cite at least 2 examples where this has ever happened
oh wait, you can't.
>>30546431
>denying someone their rights because of the color of their skin
>>>/pol/
/k/ goes to shit every time there's a shooting
>>30546590
John Lee of Miami, Fl was shot several times by muggers before drawing his firearm and driving them off with return fire. He was immediately shot without being given time to comply.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TluDE3Qb84I
Having situational awareness means you will see the attack before it happens in a lot of scenarios, and for those where it is impossible, you can simply wait for an opportunity.
>>30540316
>what would you do in this situation?
that exact situation? probably get shot in front of my kid.
if getting pulled over, tell him like that i have a CC like the guy did, keep my hands on the wheel and ask the officer if i can get my wallet of if he wants me to step out, and be extra slow and careful since im brown.
>>30544313
are we shooting people because of weed now? something thats completely legal in some states?
>>30546636
>John Lee of Miami, FL was shot several times by muggers before drawing his firearm
having a tough time finding the source on this, got it handy? Did he survive?
>>30540387
What app for recording?
>>30547075
An old news clip that's been floating around in several different videos on several different sites. This is the only one that hasn't disappeared.
https://youtu.be/q9ZEbyDee8A?t=339
>>30547039
lol
some kids in the town i live in, all 18 and in highschool, sold some other 18 year olds some random herbs/spices (like fucking oregano) claiming it was weed, and when the kids who got scammed found out, they found one of sellers and beat him to death with a baseball bat
>>30547075
>Did he survive?
Does anyone?
Everyone in this thread who says "reach for x before cop" is fucking retarded as fuck.
You know what else you dumb ass 13-16 yr old kids? when your hunting load your rifle. have a bullet inside it. AND when the game warden approaches you. Reach for it.
fucking moronic stupid kids.
JUST PUT YOUR HANDS ON THE DASH OR OUTSIDE THE WINDOW OR KEEP EM ON THE STEERING WHEEL!
god its not so fucking hard
>>30544313
hello LEO
>>30541603
guess what, they got it.
>>30542421
a breach of etiquette is a death sentence in your eyes?
>>30540316
>duty to inform only if asked
I'm only half cucked, but I still would have probably not told him
>>30544313
This guy was driving 72 in a 45, concealed carrying, he blew 3 times the legal limit, and he had four teenagers in the car. The outcome? He has admitted that he has a drinking problem and is still running unchallenged for reelection in Georgia.
Representative Tom Taylor.
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/rep-tom-taylor-charged-with-dui-in-rabun-county/nq5b4/
>>30547896
One less dindu on the street
>>30540477
Why does your pic trigger me so bad? Maybe it's because forcible rape does deserve the death penalty, or maybe it's that Brady bunch logo, or both perhaps...
>>30547896
Only if the cop wants to go home, alive, at night.
You realize that people really like to shoot cops at traffic stops, right? That THOSE assholes are the ones that fuck it up for everyone?
>>30544846
So /pol/'s idols are a mass murder, spic Jew, le sleepy black man, and literally who?
>>30547125
Police tape, live uploads footage to the ACLU and you can run it in the background so no one knows you're recording.
>>30544292
>complying completely
did you watch the fucking video?
All of you copblock faggots are shitty armchair police. Some people I talked to literally did not understand that sometimes people the cops are trying to arrest lie about being unable to breathe.
>>30543800
Michigan for some fucking reason.
>>30544402
If he sounded calm then people would say he was a cold-blooded murderer just waiting for a chance to shoot poor traytray. You faggots can't see anything a cop does without trying to find fault.
>>30544826
>>30544781
Hory shet you guys. It's fucking simple.
We just need to change up the justice system enough that it actually prosecutes cops just as aggressively as it prosecutes self defense.
If cops job is to enforce not protect, and I believe it must be because cops are not fucking samuari ninja warriors who train in cowboy quick draw all day, than they need to be held to the exact same standards as normal self defense, becasue their gun is only for defense not offense.
>>30547985
So you think someone who just told a police officer that they have a concealed carry permit is the type to shoot an officer?
I would guess the kind of person that shoots a police officer doesn't give them a verbal warning.
If you are being pulled over take out your wallet and registration BEFORE the cop gets up to you. Tensions are high right now, do not take unnecessary risks and do not put unnecessary strain on simple matters.
>But muh freedom
>bolice sdade
Every time some dumb redguard or a cop gets shot it's another nail in our gun owning, freedom loving coffin. Think about operational security and think about everything you do. If there's a way that would bring about fewer risks then do it that way.
Faggots.
>>30548325
That's not always true. Sometimes you think someone's okay and it's wrong.
Back in 98' someone took a shot kid to the fire station, claiming it was an accident. When the detectives tried to take him back to the house to figure out what happened, he uncuffed himself with a hidden key, drew one of the detectives' Glocks from his shoulder holster, and killed both. He went on to kill a highway patrol cop and take a clerk hostage in a convenience store before SWAT came in and he offed himself. You seriously never fucking know. Nowadays wearing a badge is sort of like wearing a big fucking bullseye on your back, and some people will use all kinds of tricks to get past your guard.
>>30547967
they were made here many moons ago to make the brady campaign look as stupid as they legitimately are. One even made it to their front page on facebutt
>>30540370
>Implying
Police can riot all they want.
>>30540449
>the cop upholstered his weapon
How'd it look afterwards?
>>30540316
I would have stopped moving after the officer told me to, then i would calmy tell the officer that i am retrieving my CCW. Basically before moving i would double check each time with the officer to make sure he doesnt shoot me.
>>30548340
>If you are being pulled over take out your wallet and registration BEFORE the cop gets up to you.
"HE'S REACHING FOR A GUN IN THE GLOVEBOX!" *brasting ensues*
>>30548428
Good. Fuck cops. Maybe one of them should have kept an eye on that kid instead of, y'know, being incompetent and terrible at everything.
Why didn't they take the kid to the ER or something if he was shot? Why not do first aid and take him to the PD instead of his home where it happened and could still be a potentially dangerous place?
Cops are all morons.
>>30548340
> officer sees you fumbling at your glovebox as he approaches
> gets scared and domes you before your even realize what's happening
fucking retard.
just keep your hands on the wheel the entire time and wait until he gives you instructions.
>>30548473
that gun looks janky and unsafe and should be banned the same way other unsafe consumer products should be banned
>>30540417
Americans are all boot-lickers. Even the alt-right fucking loves police and thinks they DINDU NUFFINS, hence why cops run rampant the way they do in the US.
In other countries, police tend not to be completely garbage human beings.
>>30548340
There's a lot to be said for the fact that cops aren't pulling less people over recently
>>30549487
>don't have any idea what happened, criticize cops over literally nothing, show ridiculous threeper irrationality in the process
The 4 year old kid, who was shot in the fucking head with a rifle, was pronounced dead at the fire station by the paramedics there. They didn't fucking take the kid home, if you paid attention to what I wrote you might have noticed that.
>>30549538
>In other countries, police tend not to be completely garbage human beings.
Haha, sure m8.
>>30540690
>You shouldn't have to, but it's prudent. Police may need more or different training, but in the meantime you should probably be careful.
Kill 100% of all american police, and replace them with people who are actually trained and accountable.
Training should not just be a visit to the range once a year, but also on things like how to talk to people civilly and basic first aid and stuff
>>30540713
>>30540988
>>30541052
We do this in Canada as well. You know those old FMV games? They basically play one of those in a shooting simulator (think Time Crisis with a real gun instead of the pink/blue pistol) and it's semi-randomized what happens. Sometimes literally nothing happens, sometimes there's a guy with a gun, sometimes people throw bottles or whatever at you and you can't fire back.
I've seen two versions of it, a checkpoint manning one where people mill about near you (I guess it's supposed to be a park?) and one where you clear a house and it's randomized whether people have guns or not (and also whether they shoot you; one of them is someone aims at you then immediately surrenders, so if you shoot them, you "lose")
US police departments, however, seem to be trained to just shoot first and ask questions later
>>30542246
It's just americans in general who are like this. It's a nation of boot-lickers. They literally don't know how to argue anything ever without appealing to authority -- to them, law is divine magic and cops are angels.
>>30549585
>literal edgelord opinions based on "muh feels"
if you can substantiate your opinions with facts then feel free to rejoin the conversation. By the way, US police departments have video simulators as well. Except over here we actually have violent fucking criminals with serious guns and a culture of death before prison, unlike you fucking maple syrup faggots.
>>30549583
They tend to be only partially garbage human beings instead. They're at least worth having around.
Not so in america. Destroy 100% of all american cops.
>>30549617
>criminals with serious guns and a culture of death before prison
They're probably so heavily armed and so willing to fight because they know that as soon as a pig (or carrying boot-licker) rolls up on them, they're just going to open fire immediately instead of even asking any questions or trying to resolve the situation peacefully
>>30540417
its all about interaction. if people would just see it from the officers perspective instead of their own. Being harmless is not the same as appearing harmless.
>>30549643
(you)
>>30545112
[citation needed]
>>30545112
good. americans are all sociopathic stormfags or sjw shills. they need to go and stay go
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/formally-recognize-black-lives-matter-terrorist-organization
>>30549538
Might wanna bait that hook next time man.
>>30549643
I guess it's good /k has these threads so all the trolls can be concentrated and we can discuss MRAP armor and shitpost about handguns in relative peace.
>>30540316
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/08/the-curious-case-of-philando-castile-falcon-heights-mn-police-shooting/ is this correct?
>>30549610
what
>be a police officer
>see some niggermobile with a broken tailight
>pull him over
>"ayo hol up muthafuk i gots a gun oogabooga here my ID hol up ayo!"
>he reaches for his gun
>kill him
>jewish media berates me for it
PULL THE TRIGGER ON EVERY NIGGER
>>30540417
Sad but true.
But cops are so fucking trigger happy, any sudden movement can get you killed on the wrong day. Will even be worst after this Dallas shit.
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