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Current news: Bill status as of June-23
>E-124 Petition to add property rights to the charter.4.3k Signatures Status: Complete, parlament has until July 20, 2016 to respond
>Bill C-230 An Act to amend the Criminal Code (firearm — definition of variant) Status: Second reading/Continuing debate
http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/BillDetails.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&billId=8111356
>Bill C-246 Modernizing Animal Protections Act(Hunting - More strict measures against hunters/trappers) Status: Second reading/Continuing debate
http://www.parl.gc.ca/legisinfo/BillDetails.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&billId=8122718
>Bill S-223 An Act to amend the Firearms Act and the Criminal Code Status: Second reading responsored by Sen Joan Fraser.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/BillDetails.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&billId=8177186
>Canada post corp has issued 72h notice of lockout, earliest service disruption can occur this Friday July 8.
>Alternatives for shipping fireams are Canpar/Loomis, Purolator
>Alternatives for ammo/primers/powder are all the previous plus fedEx, DHL (Others companies may allow transport of ammo search for "courier name" + "1.4s" for more information)
Anyone know if the ARES belt-fed AR uppers are a thing in Canada? I really want one.
>>30535694
Contact Canada Ammo see if they can order you one.
Not sure if they are any here yet but uppers don't require classification so it all depends if Ares has them listed with ITAR for export.
If Canada ammo won't contact Ares directly and ask if the upper is ITAR listed if yes buy one states side and have IRGuns, Prophet river or Aztec armory to import it.
>>30535722
*Canada ammo is an Ares distributer btw, there are others but CanAm is the biggest.
>>30535694
>I really want one
but you won't be able to take it innawoods
>tfw want an AR but it would be pointless to be restricted to range shooting
>>30535755
true
pistols are worth the hassle, because youre shooting short range anyway might as well be comfy indoors
ars are cool but idk if i can see myself owning one
>>30535790
yeah exactly, and outdoor ranges are shit because of target changes
the one long outdoor range here has a target change every 30 minutes so if you want to sight something in, it could take you all day and you still might not be finished, unless you have a spotting scope or something
>>30535810
>every 30 minutes
nigga wut
i change targets like every 10-20 rounds kek
Have any of you guys delt with shooters finest before? Their web page doesnt allow you to buy guns directly, you have to ask for a quote first. Ive done that twice now and no response either time. I would really like a gun they have that i can't find anywhere else anymore.
If not, where else might have those colt/deimaco c7s and c8s? I think they must be almost sold out by now.
>>30535790
My range is pretty sweet, and 20 minutes from my place so that's not an issue for me.
I just need to get my RPAL
>tfw only PAL
>Club Level Safety Course scheduled for next Thursday
>Will be able to shoot new revolver as early as Friday
The waiting is suffering. Gonna buy a box of 50 .357 Mag this weekend.
>>30537862
Eh? Most clubs let you shoot right after the safety course, you should ask.
>>30537968
Club admin said something about not being a full member before completing the course and that I have to call the CFO right after to ask for an ATT.
>>30538097
Don't have to call for ATT if its your first restricted they will send you a new card
>>30537849
>>I just need to get my RPAL
>>tfw only PAL
How/Why does this happen?
The difference between a PAL application and an RPAL application is $20. Are there people who can only afford 3/4 of an RPAL application? If that's the case, what business do they have getting into a hobby that easily costs thousands of dollars?
Has anyone here bought anything off Aztech Armory?
There is no reviews that I have seen of the store so I was wondering if anyone here has dealt with them.
>>30537849
Why no RPAL anon? I applied for both at once because why not. Just sent it in a few days ago, waiting game meow.
Oh cool gilboa rifles are available for sale now. AR-15 restricted and $3000 tho.
>>30535655
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>>30538550
ok.
I've got two questions for /k/anadian hunters in Ontario
I'm expecting my PAL/RPAL back in a few weeks. I'm doing my Hunter's Education Course + Wild Turkey course next week. I'm going on a canoe trip in late august with some friends along the French river.
1) Can I carry a nonrestricted firearm on my trip even if parts of the French River are designated as a provincial park? Can I harvest squirrel/rabbit?
My girlfriend's family recently purchased a cottage in Tobermory. Beautiful land. Thing is, looks like almost the entire Bruce Peninsula is either a National or Provincial park. Does anyone know of any hunting on the Bruce peninsula? I know Manitoulin island is a destination spot too, so if anyone knows anything about hunting up there, would appreciate some advice to someone new to the sport!
>>30538677
https://www.ontarioparks.com/park/frenchriver/activities
"Hunting
Yes except in the nature reserve zone."
Should be good
>>30538550
Guy. You keep doing this in /k/anada threads.
Here's the thing though, there aren't actually many of us. I recognise revolver safety course guy from last thread and so on. In the last thread I bitched about Al Flaherty's and in the one before I freaked out about S-223 getting the second reading.
I honestly suspect /k/anada threads may be the exact same 20-30 people, if that many.
So basically, WE KNOW. Tok guy PROBABLY isn't really a cop, since he's been to meetups, but he does say some hinky shit, and it is funny to give him a hard time over it. But just screaming like an autist who thinks he's the modern canuck Paul Revere is not funny, just kinda spergy and sad. So cut it out please.
Anyhow... who here watches Letterkenny? That show is fuckin fantastic. Being from Northern Ontario, that show is so accurate it blows my friggin mind.
>>30538747
kek it totally is just 20-30 regular guys.
>>30538781
Man, if we all started tripfagging it would look real sad real fast. Like those fuckin /ARG/ Threads where 10 tripfags just circlejerk their way through 2 threads a day.
>>30538704
>https://www.ontarioparks.com/park/frenchriver/activities
Is everything in green on this map part of the nature reserve zone?
https://www.ontarioparks.com/pdf/maps/frenchriver/park_map.pdf
>>30538747
The saddest part about Letterkenny is that I knew guys trying to emulate the hick behavior/pretend to be of that lifestyle during high school, and I grew up in the GTA.
>>30538809
I think that is just the total area of the park, better contact parks canada for more info
>>30538830
Yeah, that was a thing, I think. About 10yrs ago in College at Durham, I knew loads of em. Always thought it was hilarious them trying so hard with the john deere caps and flannel shirts, when I had about 130 cousins who were actual farmers and just wore normal clothes.
>>30538858
It's always good for a laugh seeing lads that I know that wore G-Unit back in elementary school now donning bass pro hats and posting pictures from Boots and Hearts
>>30538853
Good advice, thanks. On that note, because I'm getting licensed primarily for hunting, are these a good 3 to start with?
1. SKS (deer & large game)
2. Mossberg 500 (turkey and waterfowl)
3. AR-7 (Squirrel, rabbit and other small game)
>>30538908
I'd like something a bit heavier for large game, but the rest of the loadout seems fine to me.
>>30538940
What would you suggest?
>>30538908
I'm actually kinda fond of the AR-7 if you end up getting one just be aware the front sight is shitty plastic and sometimes drift on their own if you don't set them in place
>>30538966
If you're looking at shorter ranges, .45-70 will do the job. .30-06 is a nice balanced round as an alternative (or something comparable). If you're talking really large game, you might want to look at something like 300 winmag and up (or just hot loads for the .30-06 and .45-70).
>>30538993
I'm a complete novice (I haven't been on a hunt yet) but I'd expect I'll be looking at hunting deer before I try my luck at moose. Is there a particular rifle in 45-70 or 30-06 you'd recommend?
>>30539063
>.45-70
Marlin makes a guide gun in .45-70. Make sure you inspect it at the store first, as they have had spotty quality control. There are good used models out there if you look around. Chiappa costs a bit more, but they make a nice one, along with Winchester (expensive).
>.30-06
Lots of good options. On the budget side, Weatherby Vanguard/Howa 1500, the various Savages, Ruger American. Spend a bit more and there's the Tikka T3X, CZ 550, and many more.
>>30539109
Thanks for the info. Can't wait to go on a shopping spree at Cabela's once my PAL/RPAL comes along.
>>30538894
bass pro hats are a dead giveaway that somebody is trying to be country
all the hat proves is that you once went to bass pro.
the successful hunter hat, however, is some serious swag
i walk into bass pro toting my successful hunter hat (like pic related) and watch all the noguns scrubs bend the knee to a true outdoorsman
>>30538993
>>30539063
>>30539109
.308 > .30-06
>>30539364
>bass pro hats are a dead giveaway that somebody is trying to be country
How about Cabela's swag?
I live in BC, and I see people wearing that shit all the time in the Lower Mainland.
The first Cabela's in BC is located in Nanaimo, and its second store just opened in Abbotsford two weeks ago. So we barely have two stores and thousands of mainlanders are somehow covered in their logo.
>>30538966
>>30538993
>>30539063
>>30539109
>>30539131
4570 is a somewhat of a meme and there is no reason you should get it as your hunting rifle. even for bear defence there are better calibers.
read up on these articles
http://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/.45-70+U.S+Government.html
they have them for literally every caliber
308 or 3006 are the obvious choices for all around hunting rifles. if youre hunting mainly deer you could go with a 243, 270, 25-06, 35 rem, 30-30, etc. to get somewhat better trajectories but that's up to you.
also, don't limit yourself to one retailer. there are a ton of gun stores througout canada that deal online as well. or you can buy used from the cgn ee. nothing wrong with cabelas, but grouse river for example has a much larger inventory.
>>30538747
>I honestly suspect /k/anada threads may be the exact same 20-30 people, if that many.
You know the post counter on the bot. right also counts unique posters as well right?
It peaked at 60 once upon a time. But normally it's around 20-30 of us shitposting.
>>30539714
If he's going to hunt large game, the extra case capacity of .30-06 will come in handy.
>>30539751
>.45-70
Seems fine to me.
>>30539790
We usually get a bump when something significant happens.
I remember it going into triple digits last election, for instance.
>>30539740
who knows m8
a lot of people like taking trips to those big box stores just to browse because large outdoor stores like that are kind of a rarity in canada (as compared to the states, where they have bass pro, cabelas, gander mountain, dick's, etc the list goes on)
but yea cabelas is in the same league as bass pro
>>30538747
>I honestly suspect /k/anada threads may be the exact same 20-30 people, if that many.
That sounds like a reasonable number.
How many people fit this exact description:
>Canadian citizen/resident
>Firearms enthusiast
>Firearms owner
>Browses 4chan
There are many Canadians that are one or few of these things, but rarely are they all of them at the same time.
>>30539795
if you want something with some punch get a 7mm rum instead of that meme cowboy caliber
>>30539795
There is no big game in North America "besides Muskox" that .308 is to little gun for. The case capacity and bullet weight difference is marginal and not worth the added action length. Besides I don't think anon is going to be reloading any time soon.
>>30539790
I lurk via Clover app while at work all day.
It doesn't show that info, and doesn't hide posts, unfortunately.
>>30539867
Fair nuff. I suspect I know a /k/ommando IRL, but have not been able to confirm it yet. He just knows too much board lore. I guess he could also just be a regular on CGN instead, but he used the term czechnology once in conversation.
>>30539951
Big grizzlies up north and the real baddies up in Alaska need more gun than .308. Also, there are some good .30-06 factory loadings nowadays. Finally, the case capacity and bullet weight differences are not marginal- especially with 200 and 220 grain bullets.
>>30539867
I bet if I brought it to their attention, at least two LGS owners would fit right in.
>Tfw at the old Sebarms location shittalking with the lone employee and fingerfucking an MP5 while we watch a hobo across the street OD/heart attack
And then a greasy chug pack came in and ruined the mood.
>>30540193
>such is life in edmonton
what a shithole
>>30540027
>the real baddies up in Alaska need more gun than .308
It frightens me to think of a creature that .308 can't put down efficiently.
>>30540027
Why bother with a .30-06 long action when you could go to a .300 Win for the same weight
>>30540253
I'm not saying it's impossible, just that you're a braver man (or a better tracker) than me if you try. Not that being a braver man than me is a big challenge.
>>30540266
For my needs, I just don't see the advantage of the extra capability over the additional cost (including shorter barrel life). Other people will have different results depending on their shooting, of course.
>>30540253
with dangerous animals the name of the game is insta-kills, which are certainly possible with 308. but, as you get into more effective calibers designed for dangerous game you get more room for error in terms of shot placement, which is very important in a scenario where you need an insta-kill on the first shot
>>30536647
Can't walk out to check your target when others are shooting. Unless you dont mind dying
does anyone know where I could get a wood stock for my norc m14 up here? I know boyds sells them but with shipping and USD conversion all that I'd be paying over 200 CAD. Is there anything cheaper from a supplier here or will boyds be my best bet?
>>30538908
Could be worse, but look for something with more ompf than 7.62x39mm. Not a bad round by any stretch and it will put down deer with accurate shot placement, but if I ever run into a pissed off bear or a pissed off bull moose I'd want want a little more assurance. Maybe a Moisin Nagant if you can find one in good shape since they are even cheaper than an SKS but fire a larger round.
Also, consider loading the Mossberg with big fuckoff-heavy slugs like pic related.
>>30539131
Consider looking at Prairie Gun Traders out of Avonlea Saskatchewan. I always shill for them because they have the best prices I've seen anywhere on short-barrel stuff and they are a breeze to deal with. I've also heard great things about their warranty service if things go wrong but I've never had something go wrong.
Ther are also several gun stores in BC worth checking out as well. Basically what I'm saying is PRICE MATCH! You can get any shop in Canada to ship directly to your door so why not look around at as many shops as possible? Cabela's is fine during a sale or if you want to fingerfuck something to see if you like it but don't just take their price as best.
Considering the upcoming Race War in America and the BLM protests in Toronto, what's the cheapest place to;
Get my PAL in Ontario
Buy an SKS
I'm on a tight budget but I'm starting to think a rifle is a solid investment right about now.
>>30545073
Pal costs in Ontario are set by the CFO pretty much. Its usually 150PAL / 260 PAL+RPAL
>Ontario Course location search
http://www.fseso.org/public-instructor-search
>>30545123
>$150-160
I found one instructor in my area who'll do an Exam only for $40 so I'll study up online and just challenge the exam.
Now if I can find an SKS for $200~ I'm all set.
>>30545156
Thats cool the CFO has been replacing old instructors with RCMP officers in Ontario for a while to make the process more costly.
>>30545156
Wait you can no longer do exam only by law, but if your guy signs off that you did the full course theres no way to tell.
>>30542456
M305s fit just fine in M14 stocks, right? Was thinking of doing an M14E2 build.
Want to buy myself a Glock. Is the 17 the quintessential Glock model? Is the 17 long barrel any good? I really like the look of the Glock 40. Also, what the difference between the Glock gens?
>looking at SKS online
>ONE OF A KIND TACTICAL
why
why would someone do this
>>30545490
I lol so hard every time.
>>30545073
tradeex is usually the cheapest place to buy SKS and SKS ammo online.
check your local fun stores and cambodian tire outlets.
>>30545475
Make sure it meets the minimum barrel length requirements (compact models may not, and I'm too lazy to look it up). Glock 17 is the defacto standard in 9x19mm Glocks but your magazines will still be cucked to 10 rounds.
>4 years ago
>at range, 19, just bought my first rifle (Mosin Nagant)
>being a total autist, I decide to don full Soviet Milsurp complete with Ushanka
>make loud Russian vocalizations every time I work the bolt
>old Russian man hears this and waddles over to me, takes the lane right next to me
>he starts firing when I do, we quickly achieve unison powered only by slavic shouting
>Range Officer decides we've had enough fun and comes over, asks us to stop shouting
>I launch into a tirade of broken Russian gibberish at him, old man is laughing hysterically
>RO just stares at me blankly, then politely asks if we can keep our slavic chanting to a quiet tone since it's upsetting the other shooters
>nod my head
>old man tells me I need to work on my Russian, offers to teach me
>he has me over at his house for dinner multiple times over the following year, I meet his wife and he tells me a bit about his family (one daugher, she moved out west)
>shoot with him often, visit him once a month or so
>he died last year
>his will left his entire cache of Soviet Surplus to me
>tfw not even the finest SVTs can fill the hole in my heart he left
I miss him.
>>30545693
All the feels man.
Hey guys, what medication is a disqualification for a PAL License? I want to get a family member into shooting, but he's convinced his medication precludes a license. Might be the case but if it isn't I want to let him know.
>>30545760
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/cfo-caf/index-eng.htm
Tell him to call the CFO's office answering shit like that is their job.
>>30545760
Having a mental illness is not always a disqualification for getting a license, if he has a good history of taking his meds it might not be a problem.
Anyone know where I can get a decent cheap mil spec buffer kit? All the kits I see in stock are 100 bucks, but I don't want to pay more than 60.
>>30545949
https://www.truenortharms.com/products/buttstock-assy-mil-spec
How bout 70 with no tax.
>>30545977
I don't need the stock though, but I guess even with it's still cheaper. Funny enough I just made an order there.
>>30545983
Yeah most other kits im seeing have stock anyway and are more expensive you may have to look used every once and a while you get someone that buys mil for their car rifle and resells for cheap.
>>30546009
Yeah I mean they sell it without the stock for 50 bucks but it's out of stock, so I might just wait for more to come in. I have like 70% of the parts for my build currently.
>>30546018
Contact them directly and ask if they will take off a stock and sell you the kit, some places are really awesome and do stuff like that.
>>30546042
Good idea famalam. Thanks.
>>30545760
suicide attempts and anti-psychotic medications have the greatest risk of getting your licence denied or slapping you with a bunch of extra restrictions
>>30542456
Boyd's will probably be your best bet. I've seen some Boyd's stocks at gun stores up here, but you wouldn't be saving any money buying them.
>>30545693
>I laughed, I cried, I kiss my sides goodbye
So for buying on EE you have to provide a picture of your PAL, both sides?
>>30547488
Some people ask for it but minimum is
Full Name, PAL #, PAL expiry date (and sometimes the CFO asks for buyers phone number)
>>30547558
OK. I don't want people seeing my ugly mug.
Anybody have an opinion on the Norinco 1911?
>>30542456
If you're in the south of ontario, around hamilton or Toronto, look up a guy named Steve, goes to the gun shows in the area, specializes in finding M1 and M14 parts and other parts. He usually goes to the Woodstock show, I think Markham too but I may be wrong. Also, and I think it may be just M1 Garand parts, but something called Vulcan Surplus I think, I don't remember the name exactly, but it is supposed to carry all the parts necessary to build an M1, maybe you can find M14 parts there.
Here's a really stupid question.
I own a small business. Are there any circumstances where I can keep a NR long gun behind the counter? Would I have to gimp it into being unusable for actual defence (unloaded, trigger lock on?)
I assume it's a strict "No" but if it isn't I'll check with my local police for further clarification. My business has been broken into twice so I'm in a shitty neighbourhood (whole town is shit though) and I don't want to take chances.
>>30548409
Laws say either: trigger/cable/bolt removed locked
Or
Locked in a container/safe/cabinet.
Either way you will have to load the weapon if you are able to remove the lock or remove it from the locked container. Not good for self defense.
>Canada Post Strike Update
Both parties have agreed to 30 more days of negotiations before strike lockout.
>>30549566
Caved in like the weak-willed faggots they are. Glad we'll still be getting mail.
>>30548649
Yep.
HOWEVER...
Locked in a safe means in a container that counts as a safe. So putting a sideways safe cabinet under the counter with a really fast lock (combo lock, already complete?)
And a prepared mag in a handy lockable drawer...
So, it sounds complicated, but with practise you could probably be loaded and armed pretty quickly. While still following the law.
Now if you wanted to be risky, and I am not saying you should, you are allowed to have a gun out of storage to clean or "admire" it. So if you shot an intruder, and had all the proper storage on hand, maybe you were lucky enough to have had it out to admire it precisely when the attempted robbery occurred? That would be really good luck, right? Something to think about is all.
>>30545073
Your best bet is moving far away from Toronto m8.
>>30545693
this is a heartwarming tale. I bet he's glad he found sort of a surrogate son to shoot guns and shit with before he passed.
>>30549566
Nice. If my app is processed super quick I might get it before the strike. It arrived on Tuesday.
>>30548649
I have my pistol in a small safe beside my bed.
Beep-beep-boop-boop-beep-click - open door - grab pistol - grab mag - jam mag in - drop slide - assume tactical operator stance - ready to rock.
Much more convenient then fumbling to get the lock off your NR, going to the area where your ammo/mags are stored, loading, assuming operator stance.
>>30548409
Get a safe big enough to fit your NR in.
Put mags in with it.
Open safe, mag in, getoffmuhlawn.jpg
>>30550355
Don't you also have to have your NR trigger locked?
>>30550404
Nope, You just have to have it in a Safe irrc. It needs a trigger lock if you're leaving it on display in a glass case or something.
>>30550404
No. That's for storage without a safe.
It's been decades since this shitty law has been signed into place and there seems to be an endless supply of people who don't understand it. It's almost like there are new gun owners every year or something.
>>30550503
>>30550523
My bad, I was still thinking of the pistol in safe scenario from a few posts up.
>>30550523
It doesn't bother me explaining it over and over to newbies.
That's just more people swelling the gunny ranks.
>>30550579
Pistols don't need trigger locks in a safe either.
>>30550597
Man I need to read over that pamphlet again. I just took the course a few weeks ago and they really hammered on the note that restricted need basically two locks (Safe and a trigger lock) to be considered safe.
>>30550605
Thats for restricted in containers (basically anything thats not a safe), Like rifle/pistol cases etc.
>>30550633
Yeah you're right. Here's the infographic from the RCMP if anyone is curious. Personally I'm just going to get a big fucking safe.
>>30550605
That's for transport m8.
>>30538747
>I honestly suspect /k/anada threads may be the exact same 20-30 people, if that many.
I come to, and look forward to these threads a lot but don't always post. I like this place better than most because I can't stand the hugbox that is r/Canadaguns and even though it's great for info/trades I just don't like Canadian Gun Nuts as much, (though it's still my close second.)
>>30545475
>difference between the Glock gens?
Generally the shape/appearance/features of the frame.
For example, a G17 Gen4 has square-shaped knurls all around the grip, and the magazine release can be switched to either side.
The Gen 3 is only knurled on the front & back of the grip, and the sides aren't. Magazine release is right-handed only.
>>30550664
Ahh that's right, thank you anon.
>>30551243
I liked handling the Glock at the safety course but I've got a hard-on for a 1911 and the Sig P226 as well. How to decide on first semi-auto pistol? They seem expensive as fuck up here.
>>30551688
>How to decide on first semi-auto pistol? They seem expensive as fuck up here.
Few options:
>military surplus
>generally under $500
>downsides are that they take obscure calibers (unless it's a German pistol, in which case you might have a chance at finding 9mm, which is the most common handgun caliber ever)
>new Chinese pistols
>purportedly "not bad"
>you might feel nervous about this purchase if you're skeptical about those sneaky Chinese
>Walther PPX
>brand new German pistol
>actually good quality
>an entire range kit is like $540
>downside: the reason it's so cheap is because it's discontinued. Good luck finding parts for it
>Zastava M70A
>Serbian clone of the Russian Tokarev TT-33
>new production
>only slightly more expensive than a Tok
>available in the usual 7.62x25 (remember what I said about old military pistols and funny calibers) and even the ubiquitous 9mm
>get this if you don't want to carry the shame of owning a real Tok/being mistaken for a cop
>>30551783
One more:
>Smith & Wesson SD9VE
>a lot of people say "good pistol, awful trigger"
>apparently it's perfect if you get a trigger job done on it
>>30551783
Star model b
>1911 Ergos
>$300
>9mm
>>30551783
>>30551802
Thank you bro. I'm definitely wary of the shifty chinese but I will check out the others. My budget isn't too tight, I'm waiting on my PAL/RPAL and then I'm hoping to walk out of the fun store with a bolt action rifle and a semi-auto pistol for about $2k.
>>30551819
I personally ponied up the cash for a Glock, due to its versatility.
>unbelievable amounts of parts & accessories, both OEM & aftermarket
>some magazines are compatible with multiple models
>some parts are even interchangeable (or so the survey says)
>some magazines are compatible with other unrelated firearms (see: TNW ASR, KRISS Vector, Just Right Carbine, Kel-Tec Sub-2000, etc.)
>>30551890
http://fishingvictoria.com/firearms/glock-17-gen-3-sr053/
Good find or no?
>>30550699
Hugbox?
Never been on rcanadaguns How can a gun forum be a hugbox? I am trying and failing to visualize this.
And CGN is decent but without anonymity, everyone seems too cautious.
>>30551968
Image if /k/ was a kindergarden that is reddit. Everyone talks super mellow and puts the bad children in the shadowbanned corner.
>>30551966
fuck no, brand new gen4's list for 900 and come with 3 mags.
>>30551966
Like >>30551997 said,
you paying for the made in Austria roll mark, like the ones made in the US are any different quality. Its more of a glock collector thing.
>>30551997
>>30552017
Thanks for the heads up. Should I play CounterStrike and get the deagle for $2400?
Seriously other than Cabelas where do you guys get stuff in Canada? Are there any good online retailers?
>>30551995
Like if I called you a colossal faggot for going to reddit or said that our senate seems overstocked on windy old liberal cunts who want to criminalize law abiding gun owners, or that putting womens advocates on a gun control task force is misandrist and fucking retarded, people would get their feelings hurt?
>>30552055
Wow, such hurtful words. I think Anon should be banned from /k/.
>>30552048
Deagles are fun hope you like paying $2.40 every time you pull the trigger.
>Seriously other than Cabelas where do you guys get stuff in Canada? Are there any good online retailers?
Heres the a link from the paste bin of a shitload of retailers.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XpZ23U6Oav2acyzdUE1Ai_T0DYjamv3oN04h3LI_r8Q/edit?usp=sharing
>>30552055
Yeah that would get you banned, only reason to go on reddit is because /vg/ on this site is a fucking mess.
>>30552048
dealers all over the country that ship to your doorstep.
>>30552098
Fucking Reddit. What a sad place.
And as far as vidya goes, I wouldn't bother with /vg/ OR reddit. Most of the time if I am interested in a new game, I check if neebsgaming has played it, or if /tg/ has a thread for it.
>>30552117
>>30552098
Thanks guys. Is Canada Ammo good?
>>30552251
crazy sales, decent regular prices, free ship on $200, ok selection, 1-3day processing time.
>>30552251
Bought from them twice and everything went smooth and came on time. Though I bought a DA 16 gauge single shot as one of my items and it lasted a whole 14 shots.
>>30552281
>>30552289
Cool, thank you. I'm browsing now and they have a lot of stuff but literally everything is out of stock.
>>30552300
They just had a huge Canada day sale it happens.
Plus they're not great a pruning old items they aren't reordering
>>30548409
>>30548649
>>30550242
>>30550339
Case law says otherwise! If the gun is behind the counter for use in defending against a burglary it is likely OK. The decision you are looking for is 1994-09-28 R v. Bowskill from Ontario Court - Central East Region. Unfortunately, CanLii doesn't go back that far but here is the relevant info (roughly half way down, search for Bowskill):
https://nfa.ca/storage-and-other-cc-s-862-cases
Any van island bros willing to take a newfag shooting when my permit comes in and I buy some stuff?
early thirties, not a furry or a fag, basically a normal guy except i post here so i'm probably at least a little autistic.
>>30551968
>Never been on rcanadaguns How can a gun forum be a hugbox?
A couple of our tripfags go there as well like skeletor
>>30550646
you guys think a regular bedroom on a second floor with handle/key lock and nonexposed hinges constitutes "difficult"?
>>30551890
I like the way my G34 feels in my hand. Probably gonna set it up like pic related, though not sure what night sights I want. Then I'll get someone to do a custom shoulder rig for it, since none of the big holster makers will.
>>30553479
Fug.
>>30551819
there will be a wait for them to transfer the pistol ownership to you.
>>30553453
Totally
>>30553565
i dont know if you're being sarcastic or not.
>>30553562
Oh really? I thought I just had to get a temporary transfer permit to get it home. What's the wait for? q
>>30553588
Nope serious, not sure what the exact RCMP specifics are but I asked an ex firearms lab guy and he said so long as you keep your doors locked your fucking house counts as a secure room.
>>30553607
registering the serial number to you and clearing the transfer ,making sure that its a real license and there's no suspensions on your license.
>>30553686
Ahh I see. Looking into it a bit it seems like the CFO wants you to have a range membership too.. not law but policy. There's a "club" here that's just a paper range (Silvercore) but it seems kind of dicey.
Do I have to go through any of this fuckery for an NR as well?
>>30553612
i had no faith the rcmp would be lenient in there definition of "difficult" short of needing a blowtorch and some dynamite to gain entry.
>>30553710
nr's are show license, pass go and pay their price and go wild,dont ask if the bullets will go through buses though.
>>30553731
Awesome. I'm planning on grabbing a plinking rifle and a pistol, at least I'll go home with something to finger fuck.
>>30553760
any idea what you're getting for a plinking rifle?
CZ75B @ 700$
or
Remington 1911 R1 @ 750$
or
S&W M&P 9 @ 650$ brand new
>>30553612
>>30553712
It's all about case law, duders; the RCMP's opinion counts for jack shit. Get on CanLii and search for storage cases. Oh, and by the way, those shitty, thin gauge sheet metal filing cabinets? Those count as a safe after R v. Barnes, see here:
http://www.canlii.org/en/on/oncj/doc/2011/2011oncj419/2011oncj419.html
>>30554704
The M&P is brand new and at that price?
Hell, go for it. For some reason, prices are very unstable for that gun, and it's been a while since I've seen it that low.
>>30554846
>http://www.canlii.org/en/on/oncj/doc/2011/2011oncj419/2011oncj419.html
interesting read,thank you.
all that shit could have gone south fast if the judge wasn't so considerate or tolerant,also one of the grounds for seizing his guns being that they paraded his ownership and collection during the inspection is such utter bullshit
>>30554501
My instructor guy recommended a .22 Savage, but I haven't really decided yet. I kind of want something a little bigger and heavier for target shooting and maybe hunting if I end up getting into that.
>>30555299
one thing to keep in mind if you're new to shooting and guns in general is ammo cost ,do you know how much a box 500rd box of 22lr costs? 45-50$
around 8-10 cents/rd ,while larger rounds can vary from 50-2.50 a shot,one of the big reasons people learn on 22lr ,get familiar without breaking the bank,also find your ammo cost before buying a gun ,great to find a good used gun for cheap ,shitty not being able to afford to shoot it,milsurp is also good for this as the ammo can be bought in bulk for cheaper,7.62x39 300$ for 1440ish roughs out to 21c/rd .know your costs. lecture over
>>30555474
I hadn't actually priced it out, but I do understand that rimfire .22 is a lot cheaper than larger cartridges. Point taken though, that's a pretty significant difference.
I just know that with other hobbies everyone recommends you start out small and then I end up regretting not going bigger in the first place. Like buying a 250CC motorcycle that I outgrew in a month.
>>30555604
it's a little different with guns in my opinion ,different calibers are fun in different ways,variety is nice shooting the same gun over and over again with no break up can get a tad bit monotonous ,odds are unless the gun is just plain bad or tedious to shoot that you will never "outgrow" it,nothing wrong with getting a nice collection going,just remember not to go overboard on quantity>quality and i would say not to buy any gun for less if you plan on buying something that will fill its "place" later because of current money situation.
>>30555604
That's why I bought a 9mm pistol instead of a .22
>>30555690
That's good to know. I have nephews too, once I'm more experienced a .22 might be a good thing to start them on as well (if my sister approves, anyway.)
I don't plan on buying any cheap shit, I've learned that it's generally more cost effective to pay the premium for quality the first time around.
>>30555774
I am planning to get both. Thinking about a P226.
>>30555604
>Like buying a 250CC motorcycle that I outgrew in a month.
I envy you, in some respects.
I have a Ninja 250, and I still haven't outgrown it. I still lack the balls to upgrade to anything bigger, and I'm too comfortable with how cheap the insurance is ($79 a month).
>>30555857
I had a Rebel 250, I think the Ninja is a little more fun to play with. It's a great bike.
I had a ZR550 and then a CBR600. I haven't got a bike now, it's been a couple of years, but I'm looking to get into it again. I'm a little more cautious these days so I wouldn't mind a 400CC cafe racer or something like that, just a nimble little weekend toy.
>>30555796
a couple other misc. things that might help,
i
f you dont buy or use a safe and use triggerlocks go with the combination ones rather than keyed locks as its more convenient to dial the three digit code rather than rifle through 1-10 similar keys every time you want in.
bore snakes are a great time saver and they save some mess,those cotton cleaning pads add up after a while, if you shoot dirty ammo or shoot milsurp that will need to be cleaned often due to non-chrome lined barrels.
Lots of ranges want your guns cased and locked when your bring them in ,so be sure to pick a few up even if there cheap soft cases ,they do the job.
youtube is a great resource for gun disassembly if you're not great with manuals or puzzles.
buying some ammo cans to lug around what you shoot isn't a bad investment as it keeps everything together and makes it easy to carry the plastic plano cases wont do much to keep someone determined out ,but a little masterlock will keep looky loos and minors out ,and they seem to be able to withstand being fully loaded and carried around.
mess around with new guns at home before taking them to the range ,do everything shot of shooting live rounds through them,snap caps can be a good way to learn your way around a rifle if you dont make it out to the range much,better to find out how to make it work at home with the internet at your hands then flustered at the shooting lane ,you can also make your own,just be sure to remove the primer and powder and to mark them so no confusion takes place.
shit,goodnight hope some of this stuff helps.
>>30552289
>it lasted a whole 14 shots.
Story time?
Did they fix/replace it?
>>30556014
Thanks man, those are good tips! I appreciate it.
So guys, I'm in the market for a .308 bolt action
I was thinking of the Weatherby Vanguard, any suggestions?
I'm trying to keep it under $1000
>>30556368
Vanguard is great. Father has one.
>grew up an almost extremist leftist because it was what I and my family felt the world needed at the time
>world changes
>have now somehow become an extremist moderate because stormfags and sjws running amok both grind my gears enough to get me violent
What's the best weapon with which to liberate Canada? Other than white guilt, of course.
>>30556430
anything acquired illegally, preferably from the US, so that when you go full retard you don't fuck over the rest of us.
>>30556499
>preferably from the US,
What if I want to bring death to america as well?
>>30555796
I know that with a P226, you can get one in .22 and then buy and install a 9mm or .40 barrel/slide/spring/etc. or vice versa
Kinda like a Kadett adaptor for a CZ, two calibers with one gun
>>30557148
And I mean like an actual .22 P226, not a Mosquito
When I was looking at .22 pistols at my LGS they had both. The Mosquito is obviously much cheaper, but it will only ever be a .22. The .22 P226 was only a bit cheaper than a normal model, but if you found the upper bits you'd essentially have two guns in one
Is additional shipping insurance worth it? If I just have tracking and Canada Post fucks up the thing and loses the package, would they not be responsible for the entire package content or you have to buy additional liability coverage?
>>30538315
I thought "it's not like I'm gonna want a handgun"
Oh how foolish I was
I have read that assault weapons are banned from temporary export from the US without proper paperwork.
I am a dual citizen living in the US with a restricted PAL. I would like to buy an XCR in the AWB configuration (pinned and welded muzzle brake, non folding wire stock) with an 18 inch barrel and bring it with me to Canada.
So far I have brought my M1100 shotgun without a problem (had to register it with the US border patrol)
Is the AWB for ITAR the same as the AWB from the 1994 federal law? Does anyone have any clear information on it? Reading the actual laws don't specify what an AWB is and I'm worried it's up to the border guards interpretation.
>>30535655
after reading c- 46 in what way does it fuck with hunters? it seems like all it does is make bestiality illegal and set sentencing guidelines for people blowing u their dogs? i can see how not being able to kill an animal you w in the manner you see fit being kinda stupid but it's a drop in the bucket of bureaucratic crap we already have to deal with. and i can't imagine any one would give a shit if you had to put down an injured hunting dog 20 klicks in the bush.
>>30545475
I find the glock 40 looks kinda bulky tbqh
>>30556430
>moderate
in order to be a moderate you need to know the boundary on both sides and sit between. no man knows this. there are no moderates, and no extremists. calling someone an extremist is as much an argument as calling them a doo-doo-head
>>30558095
18 inch barrel on a semi-auto is restricted in Canada. Go for an 18.5"
I generally avoid american guns so I can't help you with ITAR.
>>30558128
someone was worried it would fuck with hunting
you're dealing with people who thought that the variants bill would prohibit handguns that share a frame with a .32 ACP pistol, despite the fact that it clearly wouldn't. there are a lot of really dumb fudds that talk a lot but are otherwise harmless.
So what are the odds of the RCMP chomping out and banning the SKS now that it's been used to shoot pigs?
>>30557148
>>30557165
Cool, that's pretty interesting. I just googled it and found a CGN thread on it. Looks expensive though, like $450.
>>30553507
Whats wrong with the pocket tok? Getting bored of it?
>>30556194
I bought 3 firearms from Canadaammo, about the same time. A backpacker in 16 gauge, an outlaw that was damaged for $150 and a JW25. The barrel on the outlaw had a dent in the end and I fixed it quick with a hammer and a large drift pin. I went out and was most excited to try the JW25, (I liked the Mauser look on the little .22) it was nothing short of impressive for a Chinese rifle. Light trigger, fair finish, and accurate and sighted in out of the box. I then wanted to try the backpacker, so I fired a couple of shots at some clays and handed it off to my dad. He then fired a shot and pulled it from his shoulder to load another and the stock twisted. Turns out it cracked and then was then pretty loose fitting from there on. The rest of the day comprised of plinking with .22s and our respective 12 gauges. I got home and taped up the grip and it seemed steady so I was alright with it. I then went to put it to my shoulder and cock it again and the hammer made one extra click and went slack and pulling the trigger did nothing. The safety later popped out and rolled under the deep freeze and I learned the lesson of "if seems too good to be true, then it is doubly so if it's Chinese."
The Outlaw and JW25 are recommended though, my dad the most fuddiest of fudds with a hatred of Chinkshit loves the JW25 himself. He asks for it when the rabbits are getting into the gardens all the time.
>>30558182
Robinson Arms make 18.6" barrels for the XCR from the factory so I'm good to go Canada-side, it's nonrestricted.
Anyone able to point me in the right direction in terms of what ITAR considers an "assault style" weapon?
>>30558863
If the JW25 came in lefty, I'd definitely grab one. It's basically just a gussied up BRNO, right?
>>30559018
Pretty sure it goes by a list of features, each feature being worth a certain number of "points". Kindof like 922r compliance.
question for you guys who shoot on crown land
am I going to need to buy a truck to do this? I drive a kraut sedan so it's going to be pretty shit at rough terrain.
>>30559098
That's the old AWB which the XCR I mentioned follows. But ITAR doesn't actually define what IT thinks constitutes an AWB. So it would be based on an official statement by homeland security I guess. I can't find that though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-UAVObpxoc
>>30559119
Are you Asian? My front wheel drive volvo s60 works bretty gud off road. If you have a vw jetta your golden ive seen those things haul trailers with 5 quads on them in the mountains, but when i go shooting we usually just carry everything the 1/4km to our spot, just pack shit smart and you can carry lots, im 5'6 115lbs and i regularly carry 2-3 full ammo cans 2-3 rifles while wearing 12kg of armor, for 1/4km. Needless to say my cardio is up there
>>30559168
No, I'm a white dude. I drive a 328i xDrive. I'm pretty fit and prepared to haul gear, I'm just wondering if the access roads and that tend to be accessible to regular cars or if you bros are driving lifted 4x4s and shit to get out to safe spots. I thought there were rules about how far you have to be from roads, etc, as well.
>>30559098
No lefty JW25's that I know of, China doesn't do anything extra unless they're told to by the business generally.
>>30559406
>Hurr durr, lefties are only 1/10th the population!
But left eye dominant people are 1/3... Shitsucks.
>>30559187
>xD
>>30559582
Cannot unsee, thanks faggot.
>>30552289
Not the anon you were replying to, but what happened to the shotgun? I was going to buy one of those but forgot to order it before the sale was over.
>>30559168
>just carry everything the 1/4km to our spot,
>1/4 km
Good job exaggerating 250 metres buddy. It's more of a short walk than anything.
But if you're hauling gear from moderate distances, just buy one of those gardening carts, or get it used from kijiji or something.
>>30559789
It's a wall hanger right now, I don't know what to do with it.
>>30558192
k thanks for the info. op should really remove it i future though as it's been up there for a few weeks>>30558192
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>>30547608
>Norinco 1911
I've heard it's a decent base for building a match-grade 1911, but you'd probably spend more altogether on parts than if you just bought a good 1911 to begin with.
>>30559875
Im terrible with distances but its definitely more than 250m, so about 1/2ish kilometer. And it doesn't sound like much pic related is what we carried last time and there was only 5 of us and we did it all in one trip
>>30558068
Usually companies have a generic insurance of somewhere around $100 unless otherwise noted. Im not familiar with canada posts insurance, but thats a pretty common amount.
>>30559636
how intelligent make the middle class hate you and see you as a group of black people rather than individuals that will stop racism for suuure.
what's the deal with the new firearms bill? i thought it was dead in the water. who/why did/would re sponsor this gobbledegook? you don't think it has a chance in hell do you?
>>30558824
I still like my Tok. Just that the 34 is better in pretty much every way. But I'd like to buy a second TT, retire mine, and modify the new one to address the issues I have, like the grip angle, or the ass-tier sights. With a few upgrades, though, it'd be a fine choice. I just have a few other guns I want to buy first.
>>30560164
Some B.C. cunt sponsored it. It has little chance. But it's a good idea to keep an eye on it and shit on people who even think of supporting it.
>>30560199
What does it propose?
>>30560659
Op has a link to Bill S-223.
tl;dr version:
>You can keep hunting guns at home
>Hunting guns are shotguns and .22lrs
>All other guns have to be stored at central repositories
>Every gun needs an "inscription" certificate
>It's not called a registry because gun owners are stupid and won't know that it is just a registry.
Went to Firearms Outlet Canada in Ajax, nice little place, quite small. Held the Glock 34, has a nice balance to the weight and isn't as heavy as say the Glock 17. They're going to have Rock Island Armory 1911s in on Monday for around 850$, contemplating getting one since they're cheaper than other 1911s. Glock 40 or 17L in the future for me, definitely.
>>30560830
Oh, thanks. What the fuck that is retarded.
>I want to go shooting this weekend
>Better make an appointment to withdraw my pistol from the repository
We already have thorough background checks and storage rules, and little to no fucking gun crime. This is totally unnecessray.
>>30538550
Literally everybody knows
Are there any plans to bring the x95 up here, or should I not bother waiting and just get a tar-21.
>>30560859
Consider the following: https://ctcsupplies.ca/products/polymer80-spectre-80-frame-v-1-black?variant=18544573189
>>30560830
>All other guns have to be stored at central repositories
>heheheh don't worry tinfoil hatters we're totally not trying take your guns :^)))))))
>>30539951
Why are muskox considered big game and not moose? I mean, moose are kinda fuckin' huge and rather deadly if they get onnery.
>>30559901
Actually it's been up there for months, I remember reviewing it and pointing out it doesn't effect us before I got my current job, 4 months ago.
>>30561973
>we're not trying to take your guns
>one dumb bitch and a handful of supporters
Unlesss you mean the royal we, and she ain't the fucking queen numb nuts, then you should probably revise that statement.
>>30562350
I mean 'we' as in
>one dumb bitch and a handful of supporters
in addition to all the people who, though they might not support this particular effort, favor gun-grabbing in general. If you've never met these people, consider yourself lucky.
>>30555299
I own one with a 13" barrel. I like it but it sure feels kinda cheap after disassembling it. Still a tiny tack driver though.
>>30556430
>Extremist moderate
Same. I just hate that people blindly side with ideology instead of thinking things through, regardless of how left or right wing that ideology is.
>>30559129
ITAR is mostly on a whim, they keep adding and removing what is covered all the time. Export of shotguns is slightly different because it's handled by a different agency (Dept. of Commerce instead of Dept. of State). Here is the latest ITAR stuff:
https://www.pmddtc.state.gov/regulations_laws/itar.html
>>30559187
Depends on the province. Also depends on if you are hunting or just blasting.
>>30560867
It was never about crime. Guns make people insecure about their own mortality and the (very low in Canada, thank God) chance they may have to defend their life from some asshole or a dangerous animal. Also, some people just like making sure the population is disarmed.
Sup fellow /k/anadians. Can anybody tell me where I could get SCAR 17 and HK293? I looked everywhere on the canadian forums about the legality of these firearms but all I could find where posts and threads in the forums that where 6 years old. So does anybody know whats up about these two? I found SCAR 17 at al flaherty's, but it was chambered in .22. Any info and help will be greatly appreciated
>>30562576
SCAR is prohib (DURR HURR TOO EASY TO MAKE IT AUTOMATIC)
>>30562576
>I found SCAR 17 at al flaherty's, but it was chambered in .22
That's not a SCAR dude, it's an ISSC Mk22.
>>30562599
Is it actually? I thought it was pending approval for like 2 years now.
>>30562631
Its FRT application was rejected, I think, but it isn't Prohib, per se. There's currently another application in progress.
Why don't all you ameriboo fucks just fuck off to California already?
>>30562669
Well that sucks. Any info on HK293 or HK243? I dont remember which one is for north america which one for europe.
>>30563057
Because we have it better than Cali atm, dipshit.
>>30563085
>HK
Going to be banned from name alone, you know.
>>30563225
There's already HK rifles in Canada though, anon. Bullseye London has a couple.
>>30563150
No, you don't. Fucking leaf.
>>30563085
I think the 243 was for NA. Sorry, I haven't kept track of those. I really should, though.
>>30563377
Stay mad. Even we aren't as bad as Cali.
>Liking guns makes you an Ameriboo
Low-quality b8.
>>30558092
That's nothing, I've seen more foolish things.
>tfw took a classroom course
>NR+R
>this school doesn't offer NR-only
>12 hours of class time later
>exam time!
>one student gets up
>"I'll be doing Non-Restricted only, thanks"
>wat
>spent all that extra time & money to not take the restricted exam
>he could've easily done a NR-only course for much cheaper at another school
>hell, this was 2014, he could've challenged the exam (he was already an experienced hunter, just wanted guns of his own now)
>>30564236
The course I took was sort of similar. The first 7 or 8 hours was NR, and then if you'd only signed up for NR training you could leave. There was about 2 hours spent on restricted, and time to check out all different types of pistols. There were about a half dozen people who peaced out before the R portion. I think it was a difference of $30 or so, I don't really get why you wouldn't just do it all at once. You're already there.
Although I think a few of them were teenagers, I assume that you have to be 21 or something to get the R designation.
>>30564538
I wasn't a big fan of the extra restrictions on restricted firearms when I took my course. Then I got to try handguns a year after getting my license and then I wish I had gotten it.
I think I'll just take the R course when my license is getting closer to expiring I guess, then it's like getting it renewed.
>>30564589
Yeah, there are a lot of hassles involved in owning one, but I figured it's always better to have more certifications and qualifications whether you end up wanting to exercise them or not.
>>30564538
>I assume that you have to be 21 or something to get the R designation
Nah man, I got mine at 19
Gunstore where I live had a siamese mauser for sale for so long I decided what the hell I will pay $300 for a gun that I can't fire but is neato historically
I call them turns out since it hasn't been sold and was posted on their site for so long it was 199 instead of 300
feels good
>>30563377
Our laws are fucked, but they're objectively looser in most ways to California's.
>>30563377
CA here, can confirm that I'm jelly of Canadian gun law, especially since the gunpocolypse.
>MFW no ammo licence
>MFW can buy uncucked semi auto rifles
>MFW no handgun roster
>MFW no cuck buttons
>MFW SBR's
I would trade CA's gun laws for Canada's in a heartbeat.
>>30563377
Didn't cali just ban semi autos with easily detachable magazines? I'm sorry, but I've seen too many photos on /k/ of NY and Cali-legal AR's to believe that we have it worse than they do..
Do you still need a gun club membership to transport a restricted weapon? BC here.
So do I need some kind of special paper to pick up a firearm from the post office?
So I just did my restricted course today, how long till I can apply for rpal? when will I get my exam confirmation?
>>30565233
Yeah but most people who shoot innawoods disregard the rule
>>30565625
do people actually shoot restricted innawoods?
>>30565654
Risk doesn't seem worth it IMO. Forest police take all your fun away forever.
here's a long shot. Is anyone here a member of the CFB Borden rod and gun? I want to shoot on the ranges here but from what i gather they only meet up a few times a year. Do I have to adhere to those days or are the ranges open all year on weekends or something? Where do I store my rifles because you obviously can't have them in your barracks
>>30565657
that's what I figured.
