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Middle East General - Aleppo edition
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Starting off the thread with a video from the SAA of Castello road after it is confirmed the SAA are in control of the southern Mallah farms, heavy clashes are ensuing but the road has officially not been taken, but they likely have fire control over the road.

https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1

This comes a day after the SAA have taken May'da, east of Damascus. A significant loss for the FSA in the fairly static conflict in Ghouta.

On the Manbij seige the attempts to break the siege by ISIS were largely unsuccessful in their purpose, several sources estimating the remaining fighters in Manbij around 600, but if current holdouts give any estimation ISIS will fight to the last man for this town, but they have to be careful not run out of supplies first given how many pictures of captured ISIS supplies are floating around.
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>old thread 404d all fast

fuckin dum.

Some pretty intense fighting footage from aleppo:

https://twitter.com/Counselkremlin/status/750939795828932609
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>>30530165
man it's gonna be a fucking shitstorm if they complete the encirclement
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>>30530899
>>30530744
Dubs confirm. But now that they have fire control, it's effectively cut off as running supplies means risking getting assploded
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>>30531005
I honestly don't understand why people make it out to be some kind of war changing event. Its not like rebels have had problems supplying other "encircled" cities. Fuck they smuggled SA-8 missiles into one, the one that is completely encircled by SAA. In Aleppo the encirclement is dependent on Kurd's. Sure they might not let heavy weapons through, but knowing the local culture the only thing this will accomplish is to make few Kurds and few SAA officers rich.

Plus the pocket now becomes the heavily built up Aleppo city. SAA can't starve them out and they sure as fuck don't have the manpower to attack the area.
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>>30531093
I doubt the kurds that have been getting shelled for months are gonna cooperate on a large scale in aleppo. It goes from a steady supply line, to a trickle of smuggled shit. Pockets in the ghouta rely on smuggling and blackmarket trading, and the SAA takes these points at their leisure since they cant realistically mount an organized assault, look at the southern ghouta pocket and May'da for example. It puts the SAA from a stand-still in the region, to being on the offensive.
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>amerijewniggers

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/07/06/u-s-jets-abandoned-syrian-rebels-in-the-desert-then-they-lost-a-battle-to-isis/
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>Ghouta Madaa under full control
>Alternative supply in Alcastelo under control


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJFp__L0p4w
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>>30531868

#الكاستيلو
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Not really Syria or Iraq, but in Afghanistan the Taliban has been making huge gains against contractors and regime troops.

>On July 5th Infiltrator killed 14 Soldiers inside base in Ghormach DHQ #Badghis, safely joined up Mujahideen in Almar district

https://twitter.com/islamforever17/status/750410991964479488

>On July 4th American APC and Chinook destroyed by IED's. (The Chinook came to rescue/cleanup the APC)

https://twitter.com/SabiqJ1/status/750056039001759744

>10 Hirelings (Contractors) killed along with two humvees destroyed.
https://twitter.com/SabiqJ1/status/749356432013819905

The past two months have been catastrophic for the regime and NATO.
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>>30531093
Its been highlighted because the SAA is finally almost achieving their goal on North Aleppo, that they have been trying for the last five or more months. After some much blood and sweat shed, many quds killed and lots of embarrassing/pathetic videos of mass retreats under fire.

It doesn't mean they achieved it yet, or that it is sure that they will hold it or that the siege will work out, but at least is something happening to comment on.
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Found this interesting image of how ISIS is trying to camouflage their tanks from aircrafts sight.
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>>30532048
That's fucking genius, holy shit.
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Update on Manbij
Isis is pushing hard in Manbij they are couple km away from lifting the siege and counter attacking SDF everyday. But for now kurds are holding on the siege and bringing reinforcements
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>>30532079
Kurds are losing ground in Raqqa, they can't send much more reinforcements senpai. If Manbij is a failure then that's gonna be catastrophic for the Kurds.
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>>30532048

You should say, "I found an interesting image about how the tank crew will make the UAV operator kek most heartily before he blows the tank away.
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>>30532478
https://twitter.com/WarNews24_7/status/750461203449798656

Looks like 12.5 million of your tax dollars went down the drain akhi
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Since the Mallah farms battle has been covered i'll mention the SAA are attacking both Ghoutas right now at Daraya and Maydaa with Daraya being the newest. Maydaa has gone back and forth for the past few days.

-Deir Ezzor. new IS action around the airbase and Mt.Thardah which Step just reported as ongoing after pro Syrian government sources claimed the airport attack was repelled.
Step also just reported 8 Ruaf airstrikes around Kinsibba in Latakia.

Pro IS sources claim about 20 YPG/SDF were killed around Manbij between IEDs and snipers as Manbij has slowed down some today.

Lastly pro rebels sources claim there was a raid that took Al Safa barrier in western Qalamoun. Unclear death toll or further objectives.

Well, ceasefire over.
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>>30532472
There were info that they were sending them from Kobani and other towns, but that was couple of days ago
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>>30532827
Of all the hardcore sieges in this war, Darayya ranks up near the top. Like a tumor that just won't respond to chemo, it keeps being a thorn in the side of the regime.

Just a thousand or so rebels who've endured daily barrel bombings, artillery barrages and occasional assaults for nearly four years now.
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>>30532932
What makes it so bad is Darayya is about a 5 minute flight from a major Saaf airbase. Saaf pilots wake up every morning , proceed to bomb Darayya and return well before lunch and it happens everyday.

This makes Darayya the most heavily bombed area in Syria by sheer volume of strikes.
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>>30533000
5 star whats ur take on ghouta/maydaa?

Some (hardcore) pro rebel sources claim its been retaken.
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>>30533042
JAI last reported heavy fighting there about 2 hours ago so they didn't retake the area at the very least. I have no idea who controls what.
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>>30533062
is it really such a bad thing may it be taken by the SAA? the pocket is still large
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>>30533096
I would think it's bad.
Anyway latest from Maydaa from a pro SAA source.
https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/751078150692605952

He is saying basically the same thing as JAI said 2 hours ago more or less.
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What exactly is ISIS trying to achieve with all these counter attacks on the manbij pocket?
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>>30533165
1. Try to break the siege
2. Harassing kurds
3. Inflict damage on human resources and material
4. Psychological warfare
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>>30532478
Honestly that is pretty clever. Engine and barrel after the lower pic might show up on infared but if Achmed has enough sense to turn that bitch off when an a10 or drone is overhead (preferably a few hours before) that would make a bit more work for anyone trying to play Where's Muhammaldo amongst a bunch of dusty shithole buildings.
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>>30532048
Somebody needs to photoshop aladdin on top of that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kl4hJ4j48s
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>>30532827
I thought mayda was captured almost completely?
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>>30533252
Meh, every map i see regarding ISIS gains is pretty inconsistent, i havent heard of any new pushes in the area after the initial attack was quelled by CAS
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>>30531093

i hate to say this, but you are right....FSA is pretty pocket resistant
But at least this will/could be a big morale boost for the SAA/Shis militias
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>>30531988
Yeah Taliban is winning that war
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>>30532932
If you didn't notice, Daraa is connected to a major supplier of the FSA.
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>>30533652
Two different cities. Darayya is part of Damascus, its encircled.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUsP7MNryvM
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>>30534627
wew lad I don't think is STALKER General
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>>30531988
Ever since we took out the old "moderate" leader things have gone to hell. The new guy just likes wrecking all the shit.
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NSyA directed a u.s. airstrike in the desert near Aksahat, syria. dont know much right now but it seems 5 daesh fighters were killed.
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So FSA is claiming they're gonna retaliate heavily in Aleppo, Russia's gonna get some bombing practice in.
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>>30533815
Oh ok
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>>30536484
>democratic
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>>30536524
Basically it means
>Not Al-Nursa
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>>30536524
I.e. the kurds.
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Well, I wanted to bump the thread with something, but I don't have anything to report or any new image, so I gonna post some images of represententions of the Syrian Army back in the day (70's and 80's) that I have in my image folder.
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>>30540003
Ok, that's all, good night everyone.
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>>30540023
Good night? , it's just starting in Syria but yes these threads need a bump at least once a day before the mid east day starts. I do the same sometimes.

What's starting? Why a large SAA offensive in Latakia to retake Kinsabba. It involves the SAA's Desert Falcons and Shia militia of some type. Right now it looks like pre assault bombardment but they are moving on rebel positions soon. Should be a good one.
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>>30540606
Sorry it's the desert hawks, not falcons (birds of prey of some type ok)
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>>30540023
Those fucking Adidas.
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>>30540003
>dat paratrooper swag
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>>30534799
>Mfw next stalker game is set in post use of nukes in Syria/Iraq.

Finally gonna go full-time researching for the middle East, I'm going to try to catch up via center for study of war, but can anyone give me a brief TLDR?

also if anyone would be interested, I'll be attending Idex (in Abu Dhabi) in February. Would anyone be interested in me documenting the event?
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>>30532079

when that whole thing started it said all the ground around jarabulus was contested but i guess they didnt really mess with it. not enough man power to surround that too, or were they just a little wary of getting that close to the turkish border??
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>>30541645
I don't think Turkish border is an issue for Kurds since they attack turk tanks with atgm's
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>>30541564
>I'll be attending Idex (in Abu Dhabi) in February. Would anyone be interested in me documenting the event?

sure why not
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>Syrian army is 350 meters from the road Castelo
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>>30540808
Operator as fuck.
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News that the Sheikh Maqsud kurds are using the chance, while the SAA is stil marching south into mallah, to attacks the Rebels forces around their pocket and put their hands on the Youth Complex.

It seems that the SAA is still advancing into the Castello road, as airstrikes around the are still being reported, but one post of Ivan suggests that the SAA, or at least just the Tiger Forces, consider their job already done in area.

The YPG also claims repelled another ISIS assault in Ein Issa.

In the photo it can be seen the 14 Hezbollah prisoners that Nusra took in west Qalamoun, yesterday. Hezbollah denied that they have taken heavy losses, and claims had already recaptured all lost points.
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Do you guys support the ypg/rojava?
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>>30544744
Nusra reported it as a raid. And it really depends how one defines heavy losses. There are pictures of pow and of a tank and infantry equipment.
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>>30544744
Also, forgot to mention, Jaysh al-Fateh is massing troops in Eis, and everyone expects that they will try their luck on Al Hadner, soon.

>>30541564
> I'll be attending Idex (in Abu Dhabi) in February. Would anyone be interested in me documenting the event?

Well, why not, it could be interesting.
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>>30544744

>14 Hezbollah prisoners

1 Hezbollah
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>3 hits survivor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp-6eWyw9Oo
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>>30540783
SAA's Kinsabba offensive results today.
Step did a full story on it. This is their version of events. The battle started around 6 AM with the heavy bombing/shelling that I picked up on early with my first post. SAA troops than moved on Shilif village and Toubal Castle.
Desert Hawks/Falcons (whatever) video overlooking Shilif village.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlYm5tYcxPI

After heavy fighting they took control of the area but stopped at this point with Step reported casualties at 9 rebels killed, 5 injured. The desert hawks lost 15 killed with one T-72 tank destroyed by ATGM fire.
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Video today of a rebel commander on Castillo road. It looks like near the youth housing complex.

Risky area to be standing around in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gClL8divSVo

As far as I know the SAA still controls southern Mallah farms as fighting continues there today.
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>>30545780
I just checked pro SAA Ivan's version of events and he says they have only captured Toubal Castle. Unknown status of the village in the video. Possibly still rebel held.
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>>30545780
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgJ19cP4ooo

Rebel footage from near the Kinsabba offensive which they claim to have repelled. A battle over the castle is forming.
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>>30546100
any update on maydaa and youth housing?

cheers
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>you will never fight with your brothers while using pic related
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>>30546631
Man I'd totes dorifto with him. He's got a sweet ride.
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>>30531988
top kek, that a Chinese camouflage pattern, the chinks are still selling shit to the middle east? Jesus.
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>>30546418
JAI posted 45 mintues ago they ambushed some SAA in Mayda, killed some and captured some.

I haven't looked at the youth housing situation yet.
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>>30546631
>against your brothers

FTFY
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>>30546769
Meanwhile pro SAA map claim's the city is captured.
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>>30546842
If they close the pocket more they may be able to negotiate a transfer like with Zanadani.

Anyone remember Zabadani? That was back with PD. Been awhile.
Back then many of us thought the SAA would lose the war. Now it's just a stalemate.
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>>30546631
Holy shit. Old school weapon + awesome ride, this photo has propaganda potential.
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>>30546913
If you take both accounts both could be true. The SAA could have taken the city and JAI could have ambushed them. There is no telling right now.
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Lastly a map of Mallah, youth housing and Castillo
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>>30547122
Of course. I was more being nostalgic to back when PD was here and we were getting trolled by legitimate jihadi cheerleaders.

>>30547224
Oh wow. Are the YPG working with the SAA in the area?
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bumping with ISIS shota harem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6hZSO9tbP0
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Dicks in the sky from this morning
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>>30547566
They're working independently, but towards a common goal, fucking up the """"""""moderate"""""""" rebels.
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>>30547693

Assalamu alaikum ya dzhama ... Please Bismillah Now open arms and make dua for me, Wallach really need, make dua that Allah comforted my soul and gave to Satan deceive me, and did not interfere in my affairs show-off (small shirk) and made helpful for this ummah like Khalid ibn Walid and Salahuddin Ayubi, he gave me a lot of work in His way and that I did not find any free minute, to fear him, and was a worthy imam mattakinom. Tell amine of brothers! DzhazakumuLlahu Gianni enough for me. Abu Rofik.
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>>30547954
now in english
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>>30548045
You have to understand Mandic is a serbian child who barely speaks/writes english, and in that comment he is trying to write english with badly romancized arab words shoe-horned into the text.

We have to commend him on his level of english, because I remember the guy some years ago here in /k/, and his english was so atrocious he stopped trying to write in english for a good while.
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>>30548068

>Jewgle translate negro.
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>>30543843

Is the one on the left sporting a lit cigarette and a can of off-brand energy drink?
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update on the SAA offensive in Latakia. After the initial successes of the Syrian Arab Army in capturing Suqur Al Sahra in the village of Shilif, the rebels have managed to stop multiple advances to the south and west of Kinsaba.

on the lighter side of things, a T-90 being used by the SAA has reportedly survived three ATGM strikes by ISIL near the town of Ithriyah.

God bless the Shtora

https://twitter.com/MmaGreen/status/751437164563472384
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>>30548327
Looks like it.
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>>30548437
Suqur Al Sahra is the name of the SAA group involved and they may want to take their asses back to Palmyra.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suqur_al-Sahara

They are based in Homs and recently gained name recognition during the battle of Palmyra .

Meanwhile near Palmyra today IS is clashing with the SAA near Maher hill and it's ongoing. IS has seriously moved into the outskirts of Palmyra barely opposed while the SAA has been focused on Aleppo. The Russians need to step up soon or IS will embarrass them at their own showcase city.
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>>30548663
Breaking Amaq claims to have shot down a Ruaf helicopter near Palmyra.
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>>30548719
Also IS VBIED claimed by IS near the Palmyra silos.
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>>30548719
damn, I hope the guy isn't captured, if the SAA actually loose Palmyra it'll be a massive blow. Im left wondering if ISIL did this because the Desert Hawks left Palmyra, because ISIL is very good at moving troops around in order to take advantage of weakened enemy fronts.

apparently the heli was shot down near the silos. Perhaps ISIL is launching an offensive to retake the city?
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so what happened to the rebels offensive attempt several days ago?
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>>30548813
I am reading the whole crew was killed.

If you follow my eastern Homs posts I have been tracking their recent activity with saying f they are picking apart the SAA along their eastern Homs lines.
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>>30548884
Sketchy claims the Russian helicopter was shot down during a raid into IS territory implying it was a air assault of some type.That makes me question exactly what type of helicopter was shot down.
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>>30532499
Good thing we got a few trillion dollars more where that came from
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>>30548883
You mean the one near Latakia?
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>>30541564
Do it.
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>>30547797
huh, they have a 3d mode now. Also, Aussie's taking the cool callsigns as usual.
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>>30547797
>>30549305
the fuck is this
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>>30530165
What's the real fucking dirty and hard truth about helping fight ISIS-goatcocksuckers; must I speak the extremely esoteric language and use the arabic letters or can I go over with my otherwise pertinent military expierience and help? I will not go jist to be a burden
Does also being a gunsmith make a difference? I would expect it does.
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>>30546913
There is still the urban area to take. Why does everyone talking about Syria always act like taking a field or a small town is the same as taking a heavily urban area. With rebels in south Aleppo or now SAA in N Aleppo and Damascus. If both SAA and rebels gave problems taking towns, where one can easily move units on the edges, provide mortar support from single point and easily observe the whole area, why do people act like such a force could take a heavily built up area.
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>>30548965
Some more info from pro IS sources. The attack helicopter crash landed in SAA territory after being hit. Another helicopter responded to the scene to rescue any survivors, they found none and left.
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>>30549524
RU explained it before. The battle for Mallah farms lasted 5 months and many casualties. Of course the pros will be overjoyed to finally take it. Just imagine if the situation was reversed and the rebels won. They would be shrilling just as bad.

I doubt Syrian government supporters think the battle over Mallah and Castillo is over either.
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>>30548813
>>30548719
ISIS won't get past the outskirts. Simply not enough manpower.
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>>30549460
what do you mean by this? Please be a bit more detailed?

Okay, you want to fight ISIS, but who do you want to fight with, and where do you want to fight?
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>>30549703
On the flip side the SAA won't be able stop these IS outskirt attacks either. Simply not enough manpower. It's a stalemate with the Russians garrisoned in Palmyra.
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>>30549725
I think he want to know if he can and where he can apply to fight ISIS without knowing how to speak/write/read arabic.
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>>30549725
>>30549861
I want to fight for the people that just want to protect thwmselves, not go out of their way to murder people. I want to help, not just fight. But I also won't go along with anything blindly or on faith. I need proof of what I am getting involved in.

I think the average caring person, with a brain, feels the same. I ain't nothing but an angry humanitarian.
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>>30549908
And I only speak americano and a bitty bit of dari.
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ISIS is claiming that a second Russian helicopter landed near the wreckage of the first one, but got out of the place without any survivors, near Palmyra.

And it seems that Russian press officer is claiming that all Ruaf military helicopters returned to their bases safely, rejecting ISIS claims.
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>>30549813
To add to this I think IS is calling the Russians out at Palmyra knowing full well they have to defend it while planning a offensive elsewhere. It's anyone's guess where.
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>>30549908
If you already have military experience, you could join the Iraqi peshmerga, but I don't think that they will cover you lack knowledge in the local language, even if other western volunteers could give you a hand. For all that I read, those Iraqi Kurds are generally more corrupt and brutal, too.

The Syrian kurds from Rojava probably fit better in your " people that just want to protect themselves", and if I recall correctly, they teach the basic of their language for their volunteers. They would probably put you in some back role, and not directly into combat duty. But they are more poor than their iraqi counterparts, so you being a gunsmith could help them too. They dont pay volunteers.

There are some ex volunteers from the Syrian kurdistan in those threads, and in /k/ in general, so you could await some of them answer you here and make your own thread asking about it.
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>>30550081
>so you could await some of them answer you here OR make your own thread asking about it.

Anyway, I also don't know if the Syrian Kurds are still accepting volunteers, could be kind of difficult even get there.
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>>30550125
YPG anon here.

Pesh is hella lot easier to get to and join. It is also more fun, as in, Iraq is still a functioning country, so whenever you are not on the front, you can go to nice, working cities, by western products, use internet, hook up with chicks etc. The downside is that the amount of action the westerners with the pesh get, is limited at best.
They only accept former service members, but for you that wouldnt be a problem, and you can ofcourse always lie, as their vetting process is a joke. People at least speak some english in Iraqi Kurdistan.

With the YPG you can see action, though they are more an offensive force than a defensive force these days. The YPG operates in syria, which is very different from Iraq. Little or no internet/western luxuries/electricity. No girls. No alcohol/weed. Minimum a 6month contract. They are a highly ideological group, strongly believing in socialism, confederalism, feminism etc. If you are against this, or apolitical, it will be difficult to be surrounded by close to brainwashed people every day. Food is shit too. Once you get in touch with them and get accepted, they will get you to Syria from Iraq/Turkey and train you (a month or language and tactics and ideology). The amount of english spoken there is almost zero, so you really need to pick up the language. Though with the YPG you will probably get to see some action if you stick around long enough and earn their trust.

Ive heard of people fighting in the shia militias in Iraq and for the Syrian Regime, but I have no idea how you sign up for that, and I guess you then need to speak arabic.
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>>30550230
From your description, I am confused you are ypg.

How hard is it coming back home to the us of a, would I be a "traitor" for aiding our proclaimed allies in iraq?
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>>30550301
No, not confused. Just got a reality check. The constant ypg/kurdish propaganda being posted on twitter and facebook is nothing more than, well, propaganda. There are many good people with the YPG, and I am a scandicuck, so half socialist, still these people are a bit too brainwashed, extreme for me. Spent almost 8months there, learned the language well, saw some action, but all in all, it was not really worth it. I dont regret it, but I am not one of those YPG facebook heroes.

From what I have gathered from american friends returning home is that its all good. They can charge you with fighting for another nation or something, but its on a case to case basis, and as of now, they have not charged anyone yet. The feds will ofcourse talk to you about your little adventure, but as long as you dont commit any warcrimes or film yourself shooting people, go into turkey to fight etc, you should be fine.
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>>30548068
I could forgive his bare understanding of English, but 90% of his postings are still incoherent at best. I just can't take him seriously.
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>>30548663
Don't the Russians have a ground contingent at Palmyra?
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>Ukropski hohols

Facebook pictures of the remnants of the wreckage of rockets were fired at the western districts of Aleppo. These images showed a new kind of rocket. The first images published on 26 June , and this evening published other images.
Images remnants of the rocket 9M27K show a rocket fired from the launcher Uragan, caliber 220 mm, and carries a warhead weighing 90 kg which is about 30 kg of explosives; the missile 's range is about 35 kilometers. The distinctive shape of the rocket Introduction apparent Attached picture is due to the fact that the head of the missile Provider small bombs spread when landing the missile towards the target and what remains of the rocket only part empty clearly apparent. Photos can be compared to the remains of missiles Aleppo with pictures of the remnants of rockets used by the Ukrainian army to bomb sites in eastern Ukraine during the past two years. It must be pointed to the frequency of information, at the end of last year, to provide Ukraine for arms and ammunition believed to be transferred at the end of the insurgency in Syria.
On Friday 12 February , quoted by Reuters news agency the gunmen sources in Aleppo countryside north that they had obtained missiles surface -to the land of some of the states that support them.
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>>30547954
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Some interesting stuff on debka about the new russian carrier + chopper deployments and so on, article's 2 days old but eh

http://debka.com/article/25525/Russia-revamps-air-force-array-in-Syria-Mid-East
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>All those fun switch AK's and StG-44's that you will never get your hands on
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>>30551150
Engineers I know they do for sure. And planes based at T4.

Russians seem to be pulling punches in some ways considering what they could be doing. Also could be just very cautious cause losing a battle to ISIS and having dead Russian military would look real bad, and it is a possible situation.
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quick update on the crashed heli, ISIL has claimed to have overrun a SAA checkpoint near Palmyra and that a Russian heli touched down near where their heli was reportedly shot down, but left with no survivors.

Rebels regained some locations near Castello road, but the SAA continues to have a large presence with heavy weapons overlooking the road

>>30551826
You can always go and live in Cambodia. You'll live like a king and have access to a shitload of full retard guns.

>>30552280
Russians have been embedded with front line units ever since the Russians really got involved there though. Its not so much if Russians die, but if the SAA starts to lose ground quickly. A few deaths won't hurt the public support for the war as long as ISIL is being pushed back.
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I posted this picture of a grad pick up truck after the haul they got taking Kinsabba saying this could be useful. 1st coastal thought the same thing. The SAA supplied grad launcher/grads went to work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddFcmJ3SILU&feature=youtu.be
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>>30552316
Does isis have any proof beyond their claims? Russia's claiming that all their helos are safe, so I'm not sure which liar is lying the least right now
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>>30552691
Amaq doesn't usually lie about its claims, at most they stretch the truth. However, considering this, ISIL would jump on the chance to plaster the internet with pictures of the downed heli and the dead crewmembers (should they recover the bodies).

This all depends on two things though 1) did it happen 2) where is the heli wreck. Because if the heli indeed get taken out, and the wreck is in SAA territory, the Russians will try to cover up the incident as much as possible and deny it happened.
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>>30552756
I'd be curious to know how they took it out if they did, my understanding is that Russian helicopters normally carry a shitload of flares and IR jammers based on their Afghanistan experience, which to me would seem to indicate a lucky shot with a 23mm or 57mm cannon
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Not much to bump with. Only that it's 8 AYM mid east/Syria time and there was some overnight fighting. Should be another action packed day of violence from all sides.
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>>30547224
So to recap what happened last night JAN claims to have moved back to the outskirts of Arab Salloum and retaken a height nearby which the Ruaf and SAA promptly responded with WP airstrikes and artillery soon afterward.

That's what is going on now.
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>>30548068
mandic is Peruvian, iirc.
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>>30550230
Would they accept somebody that has a medical background, would they find a use for medics?
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>>30552756
>Amaq doesn't usually lie about its claims,
>literally reported a suicide bomber survived his own bombing by being blasted out of range of the explosion
They claim lots of shit that just doesn't happen
Okay.
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What gun does the Tiger Forces commander carry? Looks pretty sweet
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>>30552798
Most likely a 23mm or 12,7mm
There have been vids with IS trying to shoot down Russian helis with PKM and AKM's, with no luck
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>>30556092
ISIL is also known to have Soviet era and Chincom manpads (such as the FN-6) at their disposal. Plus its safe to assume that a few stingers have fallen into their hands when they overran ISF bases.

While it is most likely gunfire that (supposedly) took down the heli, ISIL and rebel groups are known to operate anti air missiles (hell, Al Nusra was taped operating an Osa recently)

>>30555911
Key word is usually. I understand that both sides are engaged in a propaganda war, but I said that if it actually happened ISIL would try to upload pics of the aircraft as quickly as possible.

While not being in the Middle East, ISIL affiliates in the Philippines have been battling security forces in the island of Basilan for the eighth straight day. It has been a long time coming, as ISIL's affiliates in Asia have been surprisingly quiet up until recently. However, I am surprised that nothing of that scale is happening in Bangladesh (apart from the spate of violent attacks, but I mean armed insurrection)

Lastly, SAA advances east of Damascus have put significant pressure in the East Ghouta pocket as rebel elements have begun to pull out of the region.
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>>30540023
>>30540808
>>30544574

My exact thought.
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>>30541564
>also if anyone would be interested, I'll be attending Idex (in Abu Dhabi) in February. Would anyone be interested in me documenting the event?

Jealous. How to get tickets, any info?
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>>30540808
>>30544574
>>30556264

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one to notice them.
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>>30555941
Almost looks like this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FB_PM-63
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>>30556252
>While not being in the Middle East, ISIL affiliates in the Philippines have been battling security forces in the island of Basilan for the eighth straight day. It has been a long time coming, as ISIL's affiliates in Asia have been surprisingly quiet up until recently.

You mean Abu Sayyaf? Those guys started stirring shit up years before Al-Qaeda of Iraq even existed. Just like the with Sinai rebels, their pledge of allegiance to IS is just a rebranding exercise to artificially inflate IS' reach. They could get some extra training from IS now, but it's nothing new for them to bomb, kidnap and kill.
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>>30556252
>Manpads
>Vids of sandniggers firing them straight in to the air without locking on
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>>30556880
>>30556880
Yeah same thing like Boko Haram in Nigeria (to isis) and al-Shabab in Somalia (to AQ). They swore allegiance but there are probably hardly any connection to the respective superior organization.
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>>30557202
I've noticed that only boko haram puts out some videos of attacks. Abu Sayyaf tends only to put out some propoganda vids but nothing more
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Yemen News: """government""" plus arab coalition troops try to retake the Al-Solban military base in the middle of Aden that was stormed by AQAP two days ago.
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>>30555941
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Libya News:
-stalemate between Misrata [affiliated with GNC (bad guys according to the west) and GNA (new good guys acc. to west)] and ISIS (bad guys) around Sirte
-new offensive fighting but without progress by the Libyan Army [affiliated with CoD (good guys acc. to west before, now not so sure anymore, good guys acc. to Russia)] against the Derna Shura Council [bad guys] in Derna
-Libyan Army kicked out the Petroleum Facility Guards [pro- CoD with a strong flavour of separatism (kinda good but not really truely good guys acc. to the west)] out of Aydabiya
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>>30557202
Al-Shabab didn't join ISIS. Some members did but they remain primarily aligned with Al Qaeda. In reality they are a more radical version of Ahrar al Sham, they interest lays in Somalia and Somali inhabited areas in Kenya and Ethiopia, they are not international jihadists. Al Qaeda simply offers better support for groups that have their own goals.
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>>30557436
In business terms, ISIS is a conglomerate, while al qaeda is a franchise.


Completely aside, are the Taliban and ISIS still at war? I remember some shit started up because one guy started pulling down Taliban flags, but Afghanistan doesn't get much coverage these days.
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>>30557436
>Al-Shabab didn't join ISIS.
Of course not. Thats why I said they swore allegiance to AQ.

>>30557449
Yes they are since the day they established themselfs in Afghanistan. But they are just a tiny force that controls some hilltops or villages, so not much different from dozens of other smaller mujahedeen groups there, its just that they got a lot of name recognition and coverage by the western media.
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Iraqi and PMU have reportedly taken Qayyarah militairy airport south of mosul and west of al-qayyarah.

> mfw
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>>30557490
Damn they are on a roll, arent they? Its the largest military base under ISIS control in Iraq.

Sharqat and Qayyarah are also the two remaining significant towns south of Mosul.
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any news on the YPG youth housing aleppo business?
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>>30557497
After Ramadi but especially after fallujah i think moral is falling in IS ranks. On the other side, especially the shias moral is at an all time high. I think they are hungry for revenge.

The iraqi army can say whatever it wants but they arent shit without the PMU. The PMU are a bunch of shia zealots who would like to die as much as live (same as IS). Without their sacrifices the war would have a different face
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>>30557586
Yes, the PMU are the main force. The army just provides artillery and air support and tags along for appearances.
It actually bodes very ill for the future of Iraq
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>>30557490


This is awsome !
I really wonder how they did it ? An attack through the main supplyroute from ISIS in that area (#2 at pic) or the long way #1

>pic very related
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>>30557574
Nope, nothing new for them. With the Rebels recapturing some points along the Castillo road, between the SAA advance and the Sheikh Maqsud pocket, I kinda expect that they will stay more quiet. This, while the Rebels still shell Shieck MAqsud, to keep them at bay and dont try anything funny, again.
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>>30557662
The long way probably, the river is completely under ISIS control int hat area.
I bet the iraqis are setting up a future encirclement of that area.
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>>30557489
sry, didn't see the brackets
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SAA extending the nationwide ceasefire for three more days

http://syriancivilwararchive.com/Tweets/9-Jul-2016%7CConflicts%7CBREAKING-Syrian-army-says-it-will-extend-nationwide-cease-fire-for-72-hours-to-July-12-state-media---DailyStarLeb.html
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>>30557586
I disagree. Have you seen PMU fighting? They scream some fanatic shit and spray and pray. They are far from been an professional fighting force. But i will agree that their morale is all time high
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>>30557354
Is that T55 trying to fire on an aircraft ?
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New map of Mallah, Castillo as the SAA still has the road under "fire control"

Since there was a anon that questioned me about the situation in Midaa/Maydaa , Eastern Ghouta yesterday...
Pro SAA video claiming the city under their control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki1Hf3Gytfo&feature=youtu.be

Counter claim from JAI video showing their fighters still in the city
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3b-0m7ngto

Lastly I mentioned a T-72 was killed by ATGM fire in Latakia and they relseased the video of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jKiRqKSJ4U

In this video the T-72 violates a classic rule of mountain warfare by stopping on the crest of the hill. Those tank crews are not well trained.
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Vague Manbij news. YPG/SDF have broken through IS defenses in the city and one pro rebel source claims they control 25%, another claims 30% of the city. IS hanging on by a thread as YPG/SDF forces flood area after days of US bombing.

IS snipers have been able to slow them down to a extent with the main conflict area being the hospital. On a side note hospitals in this war have been awesome battles.
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Rolling though all the days events the SAA has captured new buildings in Khaldya neighborhood Aleppo. They have made progress today in Aleppo.The SAA attacked Harbinafsah & Zara in Hama with unclear results. That wraps up everything in a nutshell.
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>>30555721
They always have a need of medics, doctors, nurses etc. There is a western combat medic unit there, and you can always also work on one of the kurdish red cresent ambulances or in a hospital.
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>>30558854
But wait there's more. Step reporting IS has taken control of areas east of Palmyra about 30 mins ago. Step stands alone on this as no pro IS or pro SAA source has commented yet but I wouldn't doubt IS conducting hit and run battles since yesterday near Palmyra. Will follow up if I can.
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>>30548719
Russian online newspaper Lenta confirms IS shot down a Russian Hind near Palmyra, both pilots dead. Bodies recovered by the rescue team on the other helicopter despite the firefight
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>>30559172
Crew members named as Col Khabibulin and Lt Dolgin
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Breaking news of 2 dead Russian helicopter pilots killed after they were shot down near Palmyra.
If true than Russian MOD directly lied about the incident. That's really sad for the pilots families and any credibility official Russian sources have.

https://twitter.com/CITeam_en/status/751817801762037760
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>>30559172
Thanks for coving this , I was late in my post.
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Sputnik news on the story

http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160709/1042708976/russian-helicopter-downed-syria.html

They say the Russian piilets were "test flying" a Mi-25. Test flying over an active battle ....surrrrreeee
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>>30558504
Breaking of two suicide attacks at SAA Mallah positions. Pic is the VBIEDs

I came simply for a ending day recap and all this shit keeps happening.
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>>30559475
another pic of it
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Step also reporting a large rebel artillery barrage on Mallah farms now. Rebels are going to assault it.
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>>30557490
Well that explains the ISR aircraft I saw circling south of Mosul last night
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>>30542606
They made three attacks in total. Two failed

-One Milan attack against an M48. Missed it, hit the Hesco barrier. ATGm team escaped while their observer killed. Video posted on youtube by Kurds, aftermath photos shared on twitter by Turks.
-One Milan Attack against an M60. Scored a hit. Lightly wounded the loader. Video posted on youtube by Kurds, aftermath photos shared on twitter by Turks.
-One Malyutka attack against an M60. Hit the basket on the turret side, failed to penetrate. Video posted on youtube by Kurds, aftermath photos shared on twitter by Turks.
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>>30559601
Step reporting a rebel group is claiming they advanced on positions in Mallah farms.
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>>30557929
Considering how well the first 3 day ceasefire went, I'd expect them to keep announcing cease-fires until they conquer the whole country.
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Breaking news that another Saaf/Ruaf helicopter has crashed near Palmyra tonight. Early source thinks it was a technical failure. In any case there is still ongoing clashs with IS in the area.

tl;dr Hinds are dropping like flies above Palmyra
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>>30556269
Shit forgot to answer, they allow visitors and journalists to go. I'll be going as a (freelance) journalist as a way to start creating a portfolio for my op-eds and articles about defense. Honestly if it werent for my uni having reading break just when it was occurring and because I can bum off my dads pilot tickets I wouldn't be able to go.

>>30560138 shit, itll probably put a dent on Russian air support in Palmyra.
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>>30532048
here`s a picture of it during construction in an ISIS workshop
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>>30557490
>>30557662
It's a wonder how the ISF and PMUs managed to capture a location dead smack in the middle of IS positions, but they're going to have to reinforce the base's defenses if they're going to hold it. If they managed to seize the base from IS, IS could take it back again if they really want to.
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>>30548663
Linking to my long post and wiki of the desert hawks involved in the SAA counter offensive in Latakia ,which so far has been repelled barring a castle and small village still under dispute.

New pictures of the Desert Hawks. Twitter source pointed out the kid in the picture. Forget the kid, just look at these guys. They are not equipped for mountain warfare. They look like they are still in desert fighting mode when they fought IS. These guys are not ready for heavy mountain fighting period. The SAA needs to send them help.
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>>30561068
Another pic. These guys look like they have low morale.
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>>30559196
They weren't really lying. The Russian (though one of them was probably not an ethnical Russian, not with that name) instructors were flying a Syrian Mi-25, not a Russian Hind, so the statement that they didn't lost helos was technically true.
>>30559364
It is speculated that they were flying combat missions due to the lack of available pilots. Also the Mi-25 is rumored to be shot down by a TOW.
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http://video.amaq.co.za/v/Rh09072016.mp4
Footage of russian helicopter being shotdown yesterday. Looks like a manpad
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>>30557636
That's actually the opposite
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>>30561204
By omitting two Russian service memebers were killed and just saying they technically didn't lose a helicopter with no further info is lying about what happened.

>Also the Mi-25 is rumored to be shot down by a TOW
Fuck it. I find Russian damage control to be entertaining so carry on. Were holos involved too?
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>>30561286
Definitely a mi-35. Only two pylons on each side
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>>30561286
Damn , they took out the tail rotor.
>>30561307
looks like a Mi-24 Hind to me but I am no expert
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>>30560990

yeah, ive been very surprised too...seems ISF is doin ISIS things lately: rushing through the desert and attacking positions no one ever thought off

but you are right, its kinda suicidal...ISIS could steamroll them
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>>30561342
damn
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>>30561290
Again, it was not a lie, but a half-truth. Not a nice thing to do, but still not the same.
>>30561286
>Looks like a manpad
Dunno, manpads missiles seem to leave a visible smoke trail. This one looks like it came out of nowhere, at least to me.
>>30561342
And that's why you'd want to fly on a Ka-52.
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>>30561576
IS claimed Russian pilots were killed, they claimed a Russian helicopter was shot down.

Technically it was a Russian made helicopter shot down with Russian pilots flying it so both are true if you want to play semantics. Am I only telling half the truth?
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>>30561662
There were rumors that one helicopter was shotdown today. If it's true then hinds are falling like flies in Palmyra region.
Looks like IS got their hands on some functional manpads
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Newest Step map of rebels gaining back most of the southern Mallah area. To be fair all pro SAA sources deny any progress whatsoever. Rebels still in a bad spot here since the Ruaf is sure to light this area up with WP. We'll see tomorrow.
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>>30561662
http://www.b-port.com/news/item/184104.html?tmpl=component
So, the statement that no Russian (as in no Russian Air Force) aircraft were lost was made by a Khmeimim airbase representative, not the MoD. The latter did in fact announced the death of the two pilots.
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>>30561865

>rebels gaining back most of the southern Mallah area
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>>30561307
Welp looks like Bmp-21 agrees with you. All the so called weapons experts are saying it was a Mi-35.
>>30561870
I see we got a official Ruskie shrill on. Explain

https://twitter.com/bm21_grad/status/751869882782941184

If true Russian MOD even lied that is wasn't part of the Russian air force.
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>>30562117
Honestly won't argue with you Mandic, at this point nobody knows. The beginning of the battle was intense , check out the tracers at 2:20. Mallah got real tonight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKNJ0BsJvhw
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>>30562143
How am I a shrill if I repeat what others said? It's not my fault if the MoD is lying.
>Explain
Landing gear is down, wings are smaller, so it does look like a Mi-35. And not only that, the whole situation sounds like a mess.
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The russian MOD is saying the helicopter was taken down by a the malfunction of one of it's own missiles. (This would explain the lack of any trail in the footage). Considering the meme worthy nature of the Russian AF & Navy,I'd believe it.
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>>30562897
That's what I thought when I watched the video. It looked like the tail rotor popped off right ass it fired a rocket. Could one of those cheap old ass rockets eject something out the back with force? Could a drunk vatnik put the damn thing in backwards?
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>>30562972
That'd be hilarious if someone put it on backwards, but I feel like it would only fire one way
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>>30533271
>Where's Muhammaldo

I can't fucking breathe
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>>30562143
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>>30564578
This is why I love this conflict. I can now tell the difference between a Mi-24 and a Mi-35.
>>30562820
Fair , I thought you were the anon that was saying flat out the Russian MOD didn't lie at all after being caught in about 3 lies as the video came out, not to mention the RT TOW rumor.
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>>30556252
Al Nusra does not have Osa, that is jaish al Islam.
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>>30561096
Look at that undergrowth.

Fighting in that terrain has to be nasty without good ISR.
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>>30561576
The helo fires two rocket volleys and then takes HE directly to the tip of the tail.

The odds of being hit right there by an unguided shell are pretty low, I think; I expect that was a manpad that locked on to the tail rotor instead of the engine exhaust.
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>>30561865
Is Ivan using WP now? I thought they were using mostly thermite and fuel-air explosives, in addition to the normal HE/cluster.
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>>30565776
The RuAF dropped WP over Idlib province as early as a few months back. The gloves were already off that they'll use it again.

I'm just wondering why they haven't use it on IS positions plotted in wide open spaces where collateral damage is minimal for once.
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>>30564043
>>30562972
Not sure I buy that. There's too long a delay between the second FFAR volley and the tail explosion. And what kind of malfunction would cause a FFAR warhead to hit its own tail?

Likewise, if the second helo had accidentally done it, we would still have seen a trace of a smoke trail coming in from the left.

Instead, we get a sudden HE explosion out of nowhere, centered on the tail rotor.
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>>30565853
Oh, right, that video where it was raining fire over the town. I had forgotten about that. A powerful psychological weapon (funny how all the organizations that blasted the US for using WP in smoke and marking rounds were nowhere to be found afterwards).

For a point position in the open, HE or FAE (what Russia calls "thermobaric", even though it is very different from western HE+aluminum powders) is superior, and for a spread-out position, cluster is generally better. WP is usually best used in conjunction with a ground force; it causes the enemy to displace, and provides ample smoke for friendlies to maneuver into a dominant position. If you want to kill them in place, and have no/don't care about collateral damage, though, there are better choices.
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>>30565994
You got a point there. Thanks for clearing that up.
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>>30565866
A malfunction that would cause the rocket to send a piece of shit backwards, like it breaking and the fuel exploding sending both pieces either way. No clue what happened but its a hollow tube that could send something the other way.
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>>30564716
LOL, except I WAS that anon. I was working with whatever (mis)information I had available at the time, including the TOW rumor.
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So far:
-Failed FSA attempt at regaining fire control of Castillo road, at least 29 rebels died in the latest attempt.
-SDF reports ISIS is shaving beards, leaving behind weapons, and getting the hell out of dodge, by blending in with escaping civilians. Leaving behind snipers and IED's within the city, no doubt.
-Latakia counterattack by the SAA going well with reports of fire control over Kinsabba
-SAA advances in the Layramoun district of Aleppo, furthering SAA control of Castillo road
-Adding insult to injury the US moves troops from Tikrit to the recently captured Qayyarah airbase, just a hop skip and a jump away from mosul and in the middle of their territory. This will likely play a huge roll in offensives in the area and be a major thorn in the side of ISIS.
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>>30561865
Bumping with SAA repelling last nights rebel assault into Mallah. Their attack stalled on the southern outskirts then the SAA and Ruaf processed to push them back with a combination of airstrikes and artillery. Rebel loses include 2 Sham legion commanders.

A Al Jazeera reporter covered the bloody details all night ending with rebels coming back aross Castillo road still being bombed from the airstrikes. Ruaf/SAAs defence in depth was the decisive factor.

Pic is the dead rebel commander.
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>>30568351
>Latakia counterattack by the SAA going well with reports of fire control over Kinsabba

https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/752051060324331520

Going to dispute you here. Ivan reporting they haven't taken the castle yet which was assumed already captured from their attack 2 days ago. SAA offensive ongoing though, however slow it is.
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>>30568497
But I am also going add more good SAA news as they have fully taken Mayda as a major lose for JAI who's HQ was struck with a suicide bombing in Qalmoun too killing many. JAI reeling in eastern Ghouta.

Can't finish without a Palmyra update either. SOHR claims IS has advanced on Maher hill nearby while the news of a Ruaf helicopter shoot down overshadowed events on the ground. IS still on the move at different points surrounding Palmyra.
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>Failed FSA
>FSA
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>>30568753
>that fucking infographic
hue
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>>30568753
This is huge if true. Brits literally just equipped three infantry regiments of ISIS soldiers - for free.
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>>30561290
Quite plausible that it wasn't MANPADS, A Heat seeker would probably be going more towards the engine, not the tail rotor, seems like this was just a well aimed shot from an ATGM.

On the other hand, the story about that originally being a non-combat mission seems believable looking at the rank of the pilots, no reason to send such high ranking officers to such combat missions
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>>30568952
>This is huge if true.

Don't think so.
It's just bullets. There are plenty of bullets in the area.
It would have to be something less common and more powerful to mean much, like MANPADs or ATMs.
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>>30546748
They literally buy things off of Aliexpress and Amazon.
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>>30568351
Sources in AlNusra are claiming that they pulled back due to "Military reasons" according to AlJazeera
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>>30569167
>Military reasons
Your military getting it's ass kicked, is a military reason
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>>30569167
People in Aljazeera read a lot of books and are very articulate and speak like cleanly, like virgin poets.
Savages say: Nusrats gettin REKT like pottery, terrorist apologists on suicide watch, lets molest them with pictures of dead muslims killed by barrel bombs Allah Suria Al Bashar!!!! YA BASHAR!!!
Then AlJazeera writes: Moderate opposition group pulled back due to "Military reasons"

I wish my tax money was spent smarter on better things.
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>Be A Operator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV1Vm5dPqp0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ciuVzN5bjs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzM0Dfbwnzk
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>>30569472
You mean it isn't already well-spent in military expenses?
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>>30569472
you type like a retarded donkey on amphetamines
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>>30561662
Get your sources straight.

You shill too often.
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>>30564578
The MI-25 doesn't look exactly like the MI-24.
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>>30570264
We already went through this after it turned out to be a Mi-35
>>30564578 here
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>>30567339 here where anon straight up admits his sources were using misinformation..

I am more concerned over the ground fighting around Palmyra and eastern Homs. I dropped the downed helicopter topic (no pun intended)

I am sure some will want to see this video. Rebel group releases the footage of their failed Mallah assault.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV1Vm5dPqp0

At the end you can see the artillery strikes on them. They ran right into a trap.
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>>30568497
SAA's Kinsabba offensive results today.
Ivan's last Latakia report is the castle is under SAA control. This is the same castle they claimed to have captured 2 days ago with the video here.
>>30545780
Another tank was hit with ATGM fire today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2Vqov1xUnI&feature=youtu.be

The village of Shilif is under dispute as rebels again claim to have repelled them while some pro SAA sources claim they took the village. Some casualties on both sides.

tl;dr The exact same thing happened 2 days ago. SAA's offensive stalled.
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>>30570520
But what's the plan afterwards when they block that road? Are they trying to besiege Aleppo? Which would make sense though
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To recap the day.
Manbji = ? vague reporting from the city as the YPG/SDF continue to battle IS at a hospital, heavy US airstrikes and most of the southwest suburbs have been captured by SDF. Both sides taking casualties. Rumored final city assault being talked about but nothing yet.

-Palmyra, vague reports of a large SAA death toll near the silos as they recaptured it plus 3 Russian solider deaths. I need much further proof of this. This occurred around the time the Mi-35 dropped. IS still controls Maher hill.

Pro Syrian government sources report advancement into Dayyra.
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>>30570755
Lastly breaking of a IS VBIED at the artillery battalion near Mt. Thardah. Clashes still ongoing. For the pro SAA part they claim to have repelled earlier attacks near the airport today.

This artillery battalion post has been attacked numerous times by IS in the last few weeks and all attacks were repelled.
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>>30570739
Sorry, don't have time to go long into your question but do have some good reading on SAA tactics.

https://info.publicintelligence.net/USArmy-SyriaThreats.pdf

If you flip through this pdf it goes into 3 major SAA victories and I think they would have similar goals in Aleppo.
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