Lost all my handguns lads. What should I get to restart?
Also budget up to 1500 if need be
>>30514528
Just make a first handgun recommendation thread like the rest of the noguns.
>>30514543
But im not a noguns I just ended up losing all my handguns.
famas
>>30514528
>Lost all my handguns
How?
>>30514528
Get your favorite cc. Focus on others later, cc is the most important.
>>30514583
Detroit
>>30514528
What's the babby to the left of the SIG? PPK? It's tiny.
>>30514583
negros
>>30514567
if youve had handguns you should at least know what you like. if you cant figure it out your beyond help.
1911 or a Sig Sauer P226. Anything with plastic is garbage.
>>30514528
Perhaps this is a sign that your first purchase should be a safe.
No insurance
>>30514528
a boberg and a sigma in the same picture, now I've seen it all
Usp .45
>>30514673
You couldn't be further from the truth. Got put your fucking headset on and play some Call Of Duty with your Internet buddies. Fucking idiotic comment.
>>30514599
>>30514638
You mean not having a safe?
>>30514775
>he likes to play with plastic things
Go get yourself a GI Joe kid, adults are talking here.
>>30514774
we solid snake noa
>>30514801
said the guy who doesn't carry his guns
>>30514673
Kids usually follow in their parents footsteps. None of your mother's diodes are metal, all are plastic and she loves them. Why the hostility toward plastic anon. Tell us all your reasoning why a 1911 or 226 is the end all be all in the gun world.
>>30514809
What, is a little bitty piece of metal too heavy for your dainty little hips?
>>30514811
>all this butthurt
>>30514829
So you like metal because it's heavier?
glock or sig /k/?
>>30514913
I vote Glock.
>>30514805
the USP was 9mm.
MK.23 SOCOM was .45
>>30514904
Nope, because it is quality, whereas polypocket guns are injection moulded crap.
>>30514938
That's a stupid reason, poly has proven to be just as durable as metal.
Metal guns are likeable because they recoil less because of the extra weight, pretty much the only reason to like metal over poly frames.
>>30514977
And the only reason to like poly over metal is that you are a bitch and cant tolerate a few ounces, and that you are too cheap for precision machining.
>>30514938
Do you understand that "metal" and "plastic" each describe a wide variety of materials with many different qualities?
Do you understand that zinc castings are terrible and used in firearms?
>>30515036
Do you understand that a thing doesn't require precision machining to be made of metal?
Do you understand that very sophisticated machines in every industry incorporate plastics?
Where I work the end loader and filter press both have plastic parts. The filter press cost millions.
>>30515046
Sure in poor person guns, but ANY well machined Steel or 7075 Al gun is better quality than any plastic gun on the market.
>>30514583
boating accident
>>30514528
Lies, you're just creating evidence so feds think you lost your guns. I know what's going on.
>>30514938
you're a retard. stop posting
What kind of browning is that?
>>30515100
Are Wilson combat mags crap because of the plastic follower? Are pmags worse than stanag?
>>30514913
Glock
>>30515246
Yes and yes, but magazines are disposable, guns are not. Well, plastic guns are but they shouldnt be.
>>30514528
You didn't lose all of them, friend. The Explorer here will never be lost to villains. In fact, if you want it back, it's yours. Contact me.
>>30514625
It's a Walther TPH, which I also very much wanted to buy from him.
I've got a S&W .357 686-5 7-shot I'm looking to sell, low shot count, excellent condition with box and paperwork. I see tons of selling prices online, was wondering what /k/ would sell it for.
>>30514936
>Corrects someone
>Posts airshit
Kys summerfag
>>30514938
I didnt know anyone was still stupid enough to legitimately hold this opinion. I thought the antiplastic fudds had all realized that they were wrong by now
>>30515264
>mags are disposable
>>30514925
Sig
>>30514725
Underrated.
>>30516276
You are now aware that Fudds have been throwing old magazines away for years instead of just replacing the springs.
>>30514583
He might be that guy who had everything but his WASR stolen by scumbags who followed him from the range and grabbed them while he was eating lunch.
>>30516542
Are you seriously calling me a fudd for saying mags are disposable? You obviously have never done training. In battle, do you think soldiers drop their empty magazines or put them back in their vest while in a firefight?
>>30516670
Here's the deal. a magazine is cheap, and can be easily replaced as they age - disposable. A gun is something that your children can give to their children.
I currently have 2 guns that are over 140 years old and function perfectly, and I don't believe polymer guns will have that kind of longevity.
>>30516566
What kind of retard leaves his funs alone? Anywhere? The farthest I ever get from my rifle at the range is when I go to set up the target and have to leave it on the bench. Even then if I'm there with a friend I ask them to stay and say I'll just set up both our targets. The range I go to apparently has people so honest a rifle that was found abandoned there has been sitting in the main office for months unclaimed and I still wouldn't just leave my shit out and go to lunch.
>>30516711
Not him but when I go to a range, I have 6-10 different guns with me, and when its just my friends and I, we all walk up to the targets together and leave all but maybe 1 gun on the benches. We sometimes do it when strangers are also at the range, if they seem like good people.
Then again, my area is like <1% black and the kind of rednecks that frequent the range would rather starve than steal a can of soup.
Beretta Model 86.
>>30516708
>I don't believe
What is the scientific basis of your claim?
>>30517043
Wheres the basis of yours? Show me a 140 year old glock. In fact, show me any piece of nylon that is 140 years old.
>pro tip, you cant.
>>30517212
>show me a 140 year old glock
wut?
What are you on negro?
Polymer guns and even nylon haven't fucking existed for that long are you just trying to bait?
>>30514801
>hurr plastic guns r trash get these insted
>Why are plastic guns trash and what makes your recommendations any better?
>HURRR HE HAZ PLASTIC GUNZZZ
Real compelling argument, dumbass.
>>30517516
>Polymer guns and even nylon haven't fucking existed
Are you retarded? That's my fucking point!. You have no proof that in 140 years your glock will still function as it does today, just as I can't prove that they won't.
The fact is, steel guns have this level of longevity proven in the real world, polymer does not. Theoretical != experimental.
>>30517570
So then you can't testify against the reliability of polymer. As someone who absolutely loves full metal construction in guns, I think you're being retarded here.
Polymer by all accounts and measures thus far has lived up to expectations of reliability and longevity.
>>30517570
You do realize that it's just the frames that are made out of polymer, right?
All the moving parts that make the gun work are still metal.
You're being an idiot here, and everyone else is against you. Time to give it up.
>>30517648
Because they can last for 30 years? You are asking me to prove a negative, which is impossible. You have no empirical evidence that polymer handguns will last that long, so you cant say I'm actually wrong.
God you need to go back to middle school and learn the scientific method.
>>30517666
You mean everyone on 4chan disagrees with me? How many of you hold Engineering degrees with a focus on material science? Right, none. You are no more qualified than I.
>>30515112
beat me to it
>>30514938
Mine works for me, and I carry a gun for a living.
>>30517678
>ask someone to produce evidence of a 140 year old existing glock
>glocks haven't been around that long
Somehow this is proof of your victory because no one can prove that polymer exists for that long.
>>30517741
No, but you are asking me to prove something that is unverifiable, while your claim is as well. Of course my claim is just a hypothesis, but you can't prove I'm wrong just as I can't prove I'm right.
>>30516670
Soldierfag here. Depends on the situation. And it's pretty preferable to police them up if possible.
>>30517727
So you are either a soldier, cop, or guard. Cool, none of that qualifies your opinion on materials.
>>30517678
>Scientific method
What is radiometric dating then you complete idiot?
>Hurr, we haven't been able to measure the decay of radioactive particles over the actual millions of years, we can only measure their rates over shorter time spans and draw conclusions from that, therefore it doesn't work, durrr!
Literally all of science is drawing conclusions from limited observations of reality. Yes, it is technically possible that tomorrow the sun will turn into marshmallow and the Earth will just pop out of existence. But empirical data suggests that will not happen, so we live our lives as though it won't. If a polymer framed Glock survives 20 years with no noticeable degradation of the polymer body then we can conclude that there is a very good chance it will continue to hold up. Yes, technically it isnt impossible that tomorrow every Glock crumbles into dust, bit there is absolutely no evidence to suggest they will and if they did we would have to re-examine every facet of modern polymer sciences.
Get bent faggot, also, all things being equal long after the metal bodies of a 1911 and the metal frame of a Glock rust and rot away the polymer will be just fucking fine.
>>30517795
I'm certainly no engineer, but I've been two of those. A gun on my hip sees rain, mud, extreme cold, extreme heat and then when I need it still goes bang. Thousands of rounds stacked on thousands of rounds because of course after course. I ain't an engineer, but I can toss a pretty good statement about durability and reliability. At least a little more than you carrying your 1911 to go grab milk.
>>30517714
But who cares? The polymer parts cost less than metal if they break. aside from collectors, who gives a fuck about the original polymer construction in a century? by then the proliferation of 3d printing will make acquiring a to-spec replacement for polymer parts super easy. Plus, iirc in the case of the glocks the seriel is on metal.
>>30514673
Metal gun are cool and stuff but don't be a fag about it.
>>30517854
Because you honestly believe you will be allowed to replace the frame on a handgun in 100 years? in the US? seriously?
pic related, a 146 year old gun, that has had 0 restoration, and functions flawlessly.
>>30514528
Anyways OP as everyone bitches about metal vs polymer. You should get a standard cc gun if you can carry or a good full size with a light attachment for home defense. Then get the fun guns like a fucking 1911.
>>30517892
It's not a question if you are allowed. It is a question of how easily it will be with 3D printing and shit.
>>30517966
lol well at that point why bother passing down a gun to your kin at all if you can just 3d print a new one?
If taken care of properly, a gun should last for 100s of years.
>>30517993
My kin could print a new polymer frame that fits there hand better that the original.
If it was polymer....
>>30517892
you have the mind of a five year old child, go kill yourself
>>30518095
Right because there is no such thing as an heirloom or collectable.
CZ-75
Raven Arms MP-25
>>30518188
Gross.
>>30514528
>don't talk to me or the next 12 generations of my wife's family ever again
>>30514775
You're a dumbass.
>>30518132
Because here in merica the government allow citizen to own one gun at time.
So when citizen choose gun it has to be metal so it last for many generations.
> Fuck yourself with a metal dildo
>>30518132
>>30519587
So we should only buy fucking collectable snow flake guns. How about I buy a snow flake or two and some real guns that I can cc like 99% of polymer frame guns.
>>30519587
Make sure it is collectable dildo.
>>30514938
go to bed dad your 1911 isnt going anywhere these days.
>>30514528
92fs faggot
>>30515303
Whats the gun to the left of the scorpion?
>>30514528
what's the black one in the middle?
seventh from left?
>>30515303
hey friendo are you the anon with the pre-SilencerCo SWR suppressors? Could you do a photo series on yours? I got an Octane 9 HD that had the old school blast baffle on it without the petals. SilencerCo swapped it out when I mailed in the blast baffle. I'm interested to see the old school SWR stuff.
>>30514528
>Lost all my handguns lads. What should I get to restart?
>>30521398
That's a Browning Hi-Power you blind retard, literally anyone could identify that
>>30516711
The guy I was talking about had them in the trunk of his car. They were stolen at a restaurant.
>>30516670
>confirmed for having never done any sort of training, much less been near a firefight
You put them back in your fucking mag pouch retard, because you should be behind cover when you reload anyway. The only time you ever just dump a mag on the ground is if the person you're shooting at is directly in front of you and you run out of bullets before he dies and there's no immediately available cover. This is called an emergency reload.
And even then you pick the fucking thing up, you dont leave the motherfucker lying there.
>>30517516
>are you just trying to bait?
DING DING DING!
>this entire thread
>>30521460
Sure, I have some old comparison pics.
SilencerCo offered to upgrade my OG can as well but I declined. Nobody makes Omega baffles anymore, and they're very pretty.
SWR Octane 9 left. This predates the "HD" variant; in the beginning there was no aluminum version, they were all stainless.
SilencerCo Octane 9 HD right. This was the start of the Click together Assembly, or CTA (modified M) baffle as far as I know. Because of it's effectiveness, ease of cleaning and comparatively simple construction to other baffle types, it's since spread to many different SilencerCo products, and has been copied by other manufacturers as well.
>>30521460
It seems like every component but the tube and spring are different.
>>30521460
The piston was changed to a star pattern for a number of reasons. Firstly and probably most importantly, it's an Osprey piston which simplifies the production line. The points also make the piston easier to remove when caked with carbon, which was a difficult proposition with the old design. The larger holes allow larger torsion cheat (screwdriver) to fit when using the piston as a wrench on the end cap, and the larger OD allows a wider range of thread pitches.
>>30521460
The end cap changed from a two-piece locking nut with aluminum cap to a one-piece aluminum cap. Some say you can install wipes in the old version, but I have not tried. The old Octane end cap is floating because it has a baffle-like structure which protrudes back into the suppressor.
>>30521460
There is no question that the CTA baffles come out more easily when baked with carbon. Getting the old baffle stack out usually requires a hammer and a dowel.
But look at them...
>>30514725
Kek
>>30522786
why'd they change their name? did they get bought out, new owners, the hell of it?
>>30521460
Here is another primary difference. The newer CTA baffles are all identical, with the blast chamber sleeve being tailored to fit the new tube. The older Omega battles come in no less than three different varieties, which made production more difficult.
There are five standard sized Omega baffles, each with two mouse holes, an inner chamber, an outer chamber, and diffusing cuts. When snapped together, the inner mousehole draws gas across the bore axis of the inner chamber into the outer mousehole, which permits gas into the outer chamber of the next baffle. This design is regarded as one of the most efficient ever designed.
In order to fit the length of the tube, one mini-baffle fills the remaining space, and it requires a mating partner to seal the last chamber. Both of these smaller parts seem to be cut-down standard size baffles.
The newer CTA baffle stack achieves nearly the same level of noise reduction by fitting an extra baffle into the stack.
>>30519828
>>30521460
What is gun to the left of the scorpion?
>>30515303
Is that a Henry survival rifle made into a mock Mauser 1896?
>>30521460
Here you can see the lineage of the Omega design persisting through the newer CTA design. Both were designed by Henry Graham by the way, though the concept of an Omega baffle (tube-in-tube) began with Joseph Gaddini, another legend.
>>30522847
SWR merged with SilencerCo, which turned into a boon for both companies. SWR was very well regarded in the community, and the upstart SilencerCo had the amazing Sparrow. When engineer Henry Graham joined executive Mike Pappas, they became unstoppable. SilencerCo exploded into the industry with top-notch products at an unbeatable price with a warranty to make you cry with joy. The sterling reputation persists, despite both men having left SilencerCo.
Henry Graham left SilencerCo to form Rugged Suppressors. His designs are cutting edge, and the idea of modular suppressors is sweeping the industry. Mike Pappas reluctantly left under odd circumstances and later formed Dead Air Armament, another top level company. It's being whispered and hoped that, now both free of SilencerCo, Graham and Pappas may once again merge into a Voltron of Silencer Greatness.
>>30522904
Oh sorry. It's a Charter Arms Explorer II pistol.
>>30521460
And finally we can see the drastic difference in piston housings. The housing had to be redesigned in order to accommodate the Osprey piston from SilencerCo, but in doing so a number of beneficial changes were implemented.
Firstly, the wide, open cuts in the housing along with the new star-shaped piston allow more carbon to be scraped off during firing and fall free, reducing housing fouling which may impair the linear decoupler. The open cuts, along with the wider holes in the piston also allow gas to act in this space, providing a minute benefit to suppression. Finally, if you look at the far end of the chamber, you will see twice as many smaller notches as in the older SWR design. . The teeth of the pistons fit into those cuts. This means that the suppressor may be clocked to the host gun at twice the number of locations, to better tune POI shift or the tube's logo placement.
>>30521460
And by now you've forgotten more than you ever knew about Octane 9 suppressors.
>>30522968
wait, the little fish ate the big fish? huh, whodathunk.
whats your opinion they hybrid? have that and an octane 9 in jail ATM.
>>30523149
Yeah, SilencerCo was an overnight rock star because of the Sparrow and soon thereafter the Osprey, but they didn't have the wide product line they do today. I don't know if I would call SWR a big fish, because their production was always relatively low, but they were very well respected.
Kind of reminds me of Dead Air Armament and Rugged Suppressors now, both are small time upstarts, low production, only 2-3 products across their entire lines. But they're going places.
I'm generally not a fan of multi-purpose suppressors. I feel that one should buy a suppressor in the caliber(s) desired for ideal balance of noise reduction, size and weight. But with the numbers SilencerCo is publishing, the Hybrid defies that logic. It's very light weight for a rifle suppressor, and surprisingly good suppression for a pistol suppressor.
$900 for a direct thread suppressor is a bit much, breaking or at least bending SilencerCo's trend of very reasonable prices. But the competition costs about the same and don't have a huge .46 caliber bore to accommodate those wider calibers, so it's technically a """"value"""".
I still feel like, for the same $900, I'd rather have a Thunderbeast Ultra. Or for $200 less, a Dead Air Sandman-Ti.
If one needed a .45 caliber suppressor, AND needed a big bore direct thread suppressor, then the same unit doing both duties plus everything else beneath them is a solid, valuable product. If, however, one did not need .45 pistol suppressor or a big bore direct thread, then it no longer makes sense, and bespoke products for each caliber better fit the bill.
>>30516276
I wouldn't taint my glorious Sig with old mags. One and done for this fan boy
>>30523305
I cant say i've had any experience with multi purpose cans (out side of putting 9mm through my osprey 45) but i love silencer co and they came out with the hybrid around the same time the atf came out with 41p...it was a perfect storm. i bought a 308 to use with it so, i guess we'll see what happens. fingers crossed!
