1911 QC issues?
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So I just got my new 1911 and I stripped it down to clean the parts because it's brand new but I am noticing some issues with the frame, and the finish on it. Does this look normal for a 1911?
>>30510728
These rails are shitty looking and are like 1/3rd the length of the ones I am looking at on google.
>>30510751
Here is a pic of the slide. These locking lugs are all scrapped up and look cheesy.
Anyone here more experienced with 1911s able to chime in?
>>30510791
Look how flimsy the barrel bushing is. It's actually bent from me removing it with a wrench.
Is there literally no one on /k/ with a 1911?
>>30510728
What brand?
Are you fucking stupid? Do you know how many companies make 1911s and youre asking about qc without mentioning the manufacturer.
>>30510939
Rock Island. It's not technically new, but they guy who sold it to me said he shot it like twice.
>>30510955
Sorry I guess what I'm really asking if you think I can safely fire this gun and if this shitty finish is common.
>>30510728
>>30510751
>>30510791
>>30510836
Please take an overall picture of all the parts.
I want to see the slide, frame, and any other pieces all in one master shot please.
I have a theory.
>>30510998
ok hold on
>>30510956
Looks pretty par for the course for a used low end 1911.
>cheapest 1911 available on Earth
>parkerized finish on bearing surfaces
Were you expecting a mirrored hand polish a la Les Baer?
>>30510998
Here you go. There are still a few parts in the slide but this is about it.
>>30511058
The only things not included were a couple of springs, my grips, and a small pin from the rear sight.
>>30510956
Sorry to hear that about RIA, they're generally well-regarded but as >>30511019 said, it's not like it's a high-end product.
>>30511058
hey i have that same keyboard. blue?
>>30510728
You should have gotten a Turk, RIA is total trash
>>30511086
No i have browns in it. I actually just joined a group buy on GH for pbt blanks.
Also on the safety and a few other parts, the inner surfaces are bare metal.
>>30511058
Ok, so first of all,
I don't see a single part there that's from a RIA gun.
Your slide is definitely not an RIA slide, and your frame looks like a P14 frame that someone cut part of the slide rail off of.
The other parts seem like a mish mash of random aftermarket parts, and I don't even know what barrel that is.
Second of all, it's been the subject of a lot of obvious home gunsmithing, which explains a lot of the things you're seeing.
Third, it has obviously been fired quite a lot.
So basically OP, you've been scammed and somehow bought a frankengun thinking that it was an RIA.
This is criminal tier fraud right here.
>>30511134
Fuck. I already checked armslist and I can't find his post now. I paid only $330 so its not that big of a loss but still. Is it still safe to shoot?
>>30511058
are you sure thats a factory ria? it looks like a partskit special. is it actually marked ria anywhere?
>>30511155
No he said that they only put the serial and model number on it. The slide says "series 80 mk iv" and on the one side of the frame it has a serial, and a pentagon with an 'F' in it.
>>30511141
I'm looking closer at your barrel, and I'm not even sure it's a real 1911 barrel.
It has what looks like threading on the inside, and the barrel link area doesn't look like any 1911 barrel I've seen.
Are you sure it isn't an airsoft barrel?
>>30511141
assuming the guy didnt bugger up the parts its worth more than 300 in parts. however considering he sold it so low he probably did fuck it up noticbly the frame. vice some tape and a long string are your freind
>>30511080
Low end 1911s are what have given the design a bad rap. JMB designed it for then common manufacturing processes, which invoked lots of hand fitting. That's expensive now days, which is why modern designs take advantage to modern manufacturing tolerances and make guns with drop in parts.
The upside is it could be a fun project if OP didn't pay too much. Get the shop manuals and play with it. Replace parts and fit them himself. He'd have a pretty good understanding of how it works if he decides to get a nice model later.
>>30511189
Ugh I shoot at a game land range so its going to be hard to test like that.
>>30511187
I dont think but I'll take a picture down the barrel hold on.
>>30511134
This
it doesnt look like an RIA
>>30511141
Does the serial number say RIA? what the brand name?
>>30511193
>JMB designed it for then common manufacturing processes, which invoked lots of hand fitting.
Common misconception.
1911s were designed to be 100% parts interchangeable with each other.
Armorers would disassemble a bunch, throw them in a bucket with some gun cleaner, and just pull parts out at random to reassemble them.
>>30511208
Fuck it idc if you dox me the serial # is "U09100150377" I don't see any markings that say "Rock Island" or "RIA" besides the manual he gave me with it.
Here is the barrel shot. It is threaded for some reason you are correct. But it doesn't look like airsoft bbs would work its like 3x the diameter. The rifling is really faint and shitty though.
>>30511166
yeah he lied like a mofo. ria start their serial with riaxxxxxx. even the stripped frames are marked like that. how did an ria marked series 80 not raise huge alarm bells in your head? all ria are series 70 guns.
>>30511240
Can you take a shot of the barrel from the side?
Maybe one showing the feed ramp too.
Because I have no idea what barrel that is.
>>30511244
I didn't really do research I saw it listed really cheap so I drove out and bought it. I didn't have much time he said he had someone else coming by later to get it.
>>30511249
Hold on I just put it in a bucket of PB blaster with the small parts.
>anon gets scammed
This is a fun thread.
>>30511214
Iirc they were fitted once at the factory, which should size them to fit any other 1911 after the initial fitting. So while a factory part wouldn't drop in, one off another 1911 would.
Either way I posted without looking at the picture. Clearly not a factory RIA. Live and learn OP. Get your money back or enjoy your new project gun. I'd beat money that thing has issues.
>>30511253
>said he had someone else coming by to get it
Common scam tactic; inform whatever authorities you have to, cut your losses, and learn for the next time.
Rushing to buy a gun is always a bad idea. Did you not look at it and take it down before buying the thing?
>>30511271
>Iirc they were fitted once at the factory, which should size them to fit any other 1911 after the initial fitting. So while a factory part wouldn't drop in, one off another 1911 would.
They were made to a common manufacturing standard with generous clearances to ensure interchangeability.
It's nothing unusual for the time. M1 Garands were done the same way.
>>30511240
RIA pistos have RIA beofre the serial number
>>30511253
way to get blinded by the price.. if you cant stick it in a vice tie it to a tree or something. dont use your hand until youve shot a few mags through it.
>>30511267
>>30511249
Ok I rinsed it off here is the side view.
>>30511301
Here is the top
![311662[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BfuCoov.jpg "311662[1].jpg")
>>30511301
What the fuck is that?
Pic is a 1911 barrel
>>30511301
...the fuck is going on with that barrel lug?
>>30511301
You know... even if you don't use it for anything else..
>pic related
>>30511301
That looks like a .22 conversion barrel or something.
Though I can't nail it down specifically right now.
The fact that it's stamped .45 acp is very confusing.
It has no barrel link, and no way I can see to tilt to allow it to lock and unlock.
It looks similar in design to a .22 conversion barrel.
Can you take more pics? Maybe one from directly behind, or the other side?
>>30511312
I'm looking through my parts and I don't have a metal loop like that thing.
>>30511318
It looks like the top one from the other side but the metal at the lug part looks like a totally different piece of metal.
>>30511275
Common scam tactic which even on its face is disreputable.
>I already made a deal to sell it but if you beat the guy here I'll let you buy it.
>>30511119
looking at this and your barrel you may have bought airshit
>>30511342
Ugh I have to pull it again from the oil give me a few minutes. Although when it was assembled the slide works and the barrel like dropped down 1/32 ish when you began moving the slide.
>>30511352
How will I be able to tell? I won't have any ammo until Wednesday so I cant test fire until then.
>>30511342 here again
I was just looking at
>>30511301
again, and what the fuck is that seam about half way down the barrel around the chamber area?
It looks like someone took a piece of sheet metal, placed it over the barrel, and stamped .45 acp on it.
Holy fuck...
>>30511301
>>30511308
>>30511312
>>30511318
>>30511342
>>30511344
I'm pretty sure some double stacks use a link-less barrel. I remember seeing a picture of an RIA 10mm double stack with the same barrel shape.
>>30511301
>>30511342
OP was scammed into buying airshit thinking it was a real fuddy five.
>>30511369
whats the mag look like? pics from all angles. mostly feedlips and baseplate.
>>30511383
I don't think its a double stack.
I'm still trying to take apart the rest of the slide. How do I remove this part? I've been trying to pull of the gas ring thing for like 20 minutes but it wont come off and I can't find a pin anywhere.
>>30511058
>dat recoil spring
>>30511393
>the gas ring thing
>gas ring thing
>gas ring
This has gotta be a CO2 powered BB gun
>>30511404
Well I'm not sure of the actual name its just like a rubber o ring.
>>30511393
>>30511393
Uh... that looks like an airsoft slide, man.
>>30511393
nice airshit sorry for your loss
>>30511393
holy fuck, i've never seen a 1911 like that.
.22 cal? it has to be.
>>30511419
Do you have a magazine with it you could take some pictures of?
It's either Airsoft or some ungodly .22lr
>>30511393
Post a picture of the mag. The frame and trigger both look like double stack parts.
As for the slide that looks like an air gun of some type. Definitely not a regular slide. Should be solid.
If you aren't trolling this is getting more and more hilarious.
>>30511428
The magazines are in my gun safe I need a few minutes to find the key.
>>30511436
>need a few minutes to find the key
>losing your gun safe key
>not knowing where it is 24/7 and either keeping it on your person (not your fucking keyring) or in several hidden positions inside the house that you rotate every two days
What the fuck? First you buy this garbage, then misplace your GUN SAFE KEY.
Just... just stop buying weapons.
>"QC issues"
>>30511443
It's not a RIA that was established a while ago.
>>30511443
Nice job scamming this dude, asshole. What are you going to do with your 300 bucks?
>>30511141
No, not its not safe to shoot. Fucking franken1911
>>30511424
cant be a 22 he already posted a down the barrel shot its airshit. bet if we asked him what it weighs its 1lb
>>30511445
>not rotating the keys with your guards every 12 hours
>not killing and replacing said guards every 6 months
It's like you want James Bond to ruin your plans
>>30511445
Calm down it was on my keychain in my car.
>>30511469
You got scammed hard.
>>30511467
>trusting your guards to do anything but stand in front of the bio-metric keypad for your gate
>trusting your guards to do anything other than stop niggers from being niggers. anything more than that they're useless
>>30511469
>leaves gun safe key (on a keychain, no less) in his car
Jesus man.
HEY EVERYONE
I FOUND OP'S AIRSOFT GUN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-0CWqTacDg
All the markings match, except the word "Colt" seems to have been scraped off the side.
The serial number, the pentagon with an F, the parts, everything.
I'm surprised airsoft guns look that close to the real thing these days.
Though I stand by the statement that the frame looks more like a P14 frame.
>>30511469
Hey, OP, I have a glock 17 for sale. $250 out the door, but be quick because there is a LINE of people about to buy it.
>>30511469
The fuck is that even supposed to be.
Anon, I don't even own a 1911 and I know what their mags look like. How did you not realize this when you took it out and locked it up?
>>30511141
>armslist
>he trusted armslist
YOU DID WHAT??
>>30511469
That's a Ruger target pistol type mag boi.
>>30511469
There is no way a ruger MK mag fits in that doublewide magwell
Either OP is trolling or trying not to look retarded
>>30511469
thats a ruger mkiii mag and theres no way it fits in that magwell.
>>30511485
No mine has a little proofmark on the trigger guard too. You can see it at that post
>>30511058
>>30511489
He said not to put the magazine in because you have to keep a gun unloaded when not in use.
>>30511485
HOLY SHIT, TOP FUCKING KEK
I hope someone is capping this shit!
Also, to OP, considering other scams I've heard about, you really got off kinda easy. $300 really isn't that much if you think about it. I probably spent three times that this last weekend for the Fourth just on ammo, fireworks, and food.
>>30511504
Well your airsoft gun is probably a Chinese ripoff of that one, but that's it m80
It's clearly airsoft.
I should have suspected something was up when you wouldn't show me a clear shot down the barrel.
>>30511502
Third option: scammer gave it to him knowing even our dimwitted OP could tell an airlift mag when he saw it.
>>30511510
you're either a troll or fucking retarded
either way, don't reproduce
>>30511469
dude, i don't own any guns and I don't know a thing about them but even I KNOW you fucked up hard
>>30511522
>>30511516
Ugh I guess that explains why he gave me this box with it.
>>30511469
You dumb mother fucker
>>30511537
This entire thread has just been you fucking with us because you're bored.
No one can be this retarded. How are you still alive? Hasn't natural selection killed your ass?
Your mom should have never stopped you from getting the chemicals under the sink.
>>30511537
Good job buying a 300 dollar airsoft gun.
>>30511537
nice job you trollng fuck. i giggled a little, but fuck you.
>>30511537
Well, I guess that's that.
You played well.
I honestly thought you were just really gullible, and I didn't expect an airsoft gun to be that close to the real thing.
I knew right away that something was wrong, but it took me a while to nail it down.
>>30511537
Nice troll job, anon. I just wish /k/ wasn't the most easily trolled board on 4chan
>>30511537
I KNEW THE WHOLE TIME I SWEARRRRRRRRRRRR
>>30511537
Well played OP, well played.
kys
>>30511469
Kek. .22 magazine.
God dammit, OP.
I was having a good time, and then I raged for you, and now I rage at you.
...and we TRIED TO HELP YOU OP, AND YOU BACKSTABBED US. I bet pic related is you.
>don't eat the brownies guys
>>30511556
>>30511562
You gotta admit, he did a pretty good job by breaking it down completely.
Hell, if he had thrown in parts from a real 1911 we might still be fucking wondering
>>30511562
To be fair this time /k/ was actually trying to help OP rather than raging needlessly against obvious b8.
>>30511587
Yeah, in his first post, I honestly still have a hard time telling it's an airsoft gun.
But those last few pics of the barrel, and especially the inside of the slide, finally gave it away.
Since the jig is up on OP, can anyone tell me what the hell this guy is doing?
>>30511638
hes sitting in a river of poop water wondering why he joined the marines and what he'll look like with a beard and mustache
>>30511058
thats not a Rock Island, bruv
you know, i'm not even upset.
>>30511691
Let's try a mental exercise, kay?
READ THE THREAD BEFORE POSTING.
>i miss the old captchas... how many more store fronts can I click...
>>30511702
>>30511709
All this information and you chose to post after OP already ousted he was trolling us.
