4TH OF JULY THREAD
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Oh shit niggers, it's the 4th of fucking July. What are you faggots buying today? Post em'.
Personally, I'm a nofuns, and I'm looking to pick up my first gun today, probably from an online retailer rather than in-person. Help me decide, based on the cost and quality of available guns/ kits, with which gun I should pop my gun cherry:
>The best possible AR-15 kit within $500-700. Personally, I'd like to own a decent AR-15 before the ban, and eventually swap out the lower for one of my own make. Unfortunately, I'd need retard-tier help picking out the best kit possible for its sale price, as I don't have a clue about what consitutes a good-quality AR kit, nor which companies manufacture the best for the cheapest.
>A new, $350 Mossberg 500, 12g, 7+1 capacity. Also includes a decent laser sight (laserlyte center mass.) Although I don't know much about guns, this seems like an incredible deal for what I'd be getting, and thus pretty much impossible to ignore.
>Technically, my funs budget is up to $800, including ammo costs, so feel free to write in any third-party candidate.
With either gun, I'd be looking for something useful both for HD and Gub Mints™/ end of the world scenarios. I'd really prefer to avoid "do what you like best" arguments, as I have shot both guns and liked both of them. Thanks in advance (or not,) and have some fuckin' titties.
>>30495232
I'm buying fireworks nigga. Seattle is about to get loud tonight.
>>30495247
Nice! Just make sure not to leave any "fireworks" in your local park, otherwise somebody might "accidentally" get their leg blown off.
Realized that my OP pic is not very titular whatsoever. Going to rectify that.
>>30495289
I'm gonna be shooting this stuff off on the street corner and drag out my cooler. I'm not so stupid as to leave my fireworks unattended either, drunk as I may be getting.
What are some fireworks that contain a lot of black powder or explosive material?
>>30495352
Why do you ask?
>>30495232
Do you have to pass a background check or have a license to buy where you're buying from?
>>30495358
N-no reason Mrs. Feinstein
>>30495232
Just go to a gun store and buy a complete gun. For $700 you can get a ar15 at any retailer.
>>30495232
Are they really gonna ban them?
>>30495322
Good on you, m8. But let's be real here, that Central Park shit was definitely an IED.
>>30495352
Sand monkeys OUT, OUT, OUT!
>>30495375
I live in PA. I'm pretty sure I'm committing a minor felony in not owning a gun at this age.
>>30495403
Not without driving over an hour to even find one; I've already checked, and most of the best places around here are out of stock. Not to mention that I'd like it new, and the best AR-15 possible for the price I'd be paying. With in-store purchases of any kind, you lose that flexibility.
>>30495232
Tell you what, OP
>Hi-Point 9mm Carbine = Anywhere from 200-300 bucks, let's say 250 if you buy online (don't worry about used, they have a truly unlimited warranty that is passed along with the gun, used or new)
>1000 rounds of bulk ammo = usually around 200 or so but Lucky Gunner's having sales right now I think
>50 rounds of Remington Golden Saber 9mm +P ammo = 50 bucks (I'll explain what +P is in a moment)
>Redball Sports 20 rd. magazine = I think somewhere around 25 bucks?
So let's talk about the gun. It's a 9mm carbine. You might find it a bit homely, but it's reliable, it's accurate, and no matter what condition it's in or who you bought it from, it's under a no questions asked warranty. Also it handles +P ammo.
If it's your first gun ever, you can't go wrong. The 9mm cartridge is piss easy to shoot, and really inexpensive to horde. This means that you will be able to aim it effectively in a defense scenario, and the recoil won't hurt your accuracy. It also means that you are able to take the gun out to ranges more often and practice more often, since you aren't breaking the bank on ammo. Plus, if you live in the city, many indoor ranges are pistol only, but will allow pistol caliber rifles.
You might ask, "What about the 9mm weak meme?". Well, this rifle can eat just about any ammunition you can throw at it. Some guns are picky, but not this baby. Also, of note, this rifle can accept +P ammunition.
+P ammo is ammo that has added gun powder, it means "Overpressure". not all 9mm guns can shoot it safely, but the Hi Point can. This means that in a home defense situation, you can have higher power ammo than standard 9mm target loads.
The only real drawback to the gun besides its ugliness is its 10 round capacity magazine. However, Redball Sports makes an excellent 20 round magazine (pictured here in the gun) which makes it even UGLIER but it shoots 20 rounds before reloading.
It's pretty much the ideal first gun.
Just read how someone sold a hipoint for weed and you could see his Newport pack.
>>30495467
So basically you can own a reliable accurate dependable firearm, with plenty of cheap normal ammo for the stockpile, and that's also able to accept +P home defense ammo, that is now capable of being a 20 round gun, for... Let's see
>250 for the gun
>200 for 1000 rounds of 9mm
>50 for 50 +P rounds
>about 100 dollars for 2 20 round Red Ball mags and 3 regular 10 round mags (you also get two 10 rd mags with the gun itself)
Comes out to about 600 bucks, which is what you'd pay for a bottom of the line AR, which is without the more than 1000 rounds of ammunition and extra magazines
>>30495487
god bless america
>>30495487
Yeah, stupid bitch. Though I don't live I may see your freedom being taken away. But as you live in a federalist country, laws are legislated by states, right? So I think that's harder to ban it all over the country if i'm not wrong
>>30495232
I bought this a few weeks back but I finally got out to the range to shoot it today.
Its a Winchester 1400 mk2, the gun was very well maintained and it performed flawlessly at the range. It handled a box of #2 birdshot, a box of 00 buckshot, and some slugs with zero jams or other issues.
>>30495500
Oh lawd.
>>30495524
Amen.
>>30495576
Sort of? I figure I should clarify this for non-politically savvy operators anyway: Although the USA does allow its member states to write their own firearms legislation, in accordance with the will of the founding fathers and the Second Amendment, there actually is a non-insignificant catch to our beloved "freedom" as we understand it. That catch is known as the Supremacy Clause, which can be found under article II of the Sixth Amendment:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacy_Clause
Basically, what this translates to is equivalent to saying "Anything the fed says, goes." What this means is that if, say, Hillary Clinton were to decide that certain guns are going to be classified as "assault weapons" and have their purchase/ sale/ ownership restricted nation-wide under federal law, she can (and will) absolutely do that.
Don't get me wrong, I fucking hate Hillary and everything she stands for, and I highly disagree that any gun should ever be classified as illegal to purchase, but that is absolutely the excuse she will use to justify her bullshit gun-control plan. Sure, there's the limited possibility that some states will say "No, fuck you," but that's exactly what they are: Possibilities which are limited by a variety of extremely annoying political factors. Because she will have significant control over Congress's ability to set the federal budget (especially during her first year in office,) she can freely threaten dissenting states with a reduced cashflow, placing a lower priority on their Senate initiatives, etc... For many states, opposing another AWB would be tantamount to economic suicide.
TL;DR - If you ever want to buy a Gub Mint™ gun, do it NOW.
Freedom!
>>30495232
How much do 3" sp101's go for?
I got about $600
>>30495232
>What are you faggots buying today?
Nothing. I got my shit yesterday.
Back for more fun, now with a full stomach and some additional titties. What do you guys think the absolute best AR-15 kit that I could buy around $500-800 might be? I'm trying to compare my options, but I basically have no idea about what qualifies as a decent AR-15 kit, so I have no baseline off of which to make my comparison. Sorry for all the questions, I'm kind of a poorfag so I really want to consider my options carefully before I make my decision.
Are any of these any good? What is the difference between these kits http://palmettostatearmory.com/ar-15-05/rifle-kits.html
>>30496084
Google says you can get one, but don't take my word for it.
>>30496092
What did you get?
>>30496725
I keep screwing this up.
Fucking UK going out of their way to have their Independence Day like a week before ours.
>>30496725
Your basic bitch AR-15 that's ready to shoot out of the box is probably an M&P 15 or Ruger 556. I have an M&P 15 and it's a great shooter that was ready for plinking when I unpacked it.
>>30496765
This anon knows what's up. Building from parts isn't for everyone and there's a few single-use-tools that really add to the cost if you don't want to risk fucking your lower up. It's nice to be intimately familiar with your rifle though, and I think well worth the extra price of a few punches.
>>30496784
I agree, but I was in the same boat as anon (read: poor and stupid), so I got the M&P. Now come what may I currently have something that shoots and I'll always have a complete lower with a roller-mark I'm quite partial to.
>>30496804
I've never met an S&W I didn't like
>>30496784
>and there's a few single-use-tools that really add to the cost if you don't want to risk fucking your lower up
I didn't buy any of those and managed to do it without breaking anything, and I'm actually retarded.
>>30496765
>>30496784
>>30496804
>>30496765
>>30496784
My niggas: Would you recommend a specific kit/ link?
As to familiarity, that's the goal: I want to force myself to get very familiar with the rifle, otherwise I never will. As to the lower, I'm definitely going to machine my own lower from an 80% later down the road, but that's not as immediate of a concern for me as actually getting the gun itself. As such, I'm not including those costs in my budget.
>>30496847
WTB: Suicide.
>>30496847
Anything by PSA is recommended by /k/ generally. I'm preferable to Aero lowers and parts kits. Just don't bother with the $20 extra upgraded trigger, it's just not worth it.
>>30496847
Walk into your LGS and ask for an M&P/556, ~$650 is what you're looking for
>>30496880
http://palmettostatearmory.com/ar-15-05/rifle-kits.html
So, what actually is the difference between these three kits? They're all differently priced, so they've got to be different somehow, right?
>>30496890
Unfortunately, the places around here are out of stock in terms of AR's, so I'd probably miss the big sales that way. I live in the more suburban part of PA where there aren't quite as many guns/ gun shops, but I'm moving into Philly very soon for a job.
>>30496936
I assume it's all about the type of barrel
Keeping it alive
buying my mom a handgun, thinking about a Bersa 380.
I was going to go shooting, but I am behind enemy lines in CA and the nearest range is 30 min and closed. I could go to the desert and get rid of this steel case shit I have but I don't want to deal with traffic. I will prob clean my guns , BBQ and watch the Nigs across the street blow their hands off with M80s and chimp out.
Happy 4th everyone.
>>30499620
>that murderbox design
>>30495232
Bought some 54r.
>>30495358
>unburnt_witch.jpg
>>30495991
>Hillary Clinton were to decide that certain guns are going to be classified as "assault weapons" and have their purchase/ sale/ ownership restricted nation-wide under federal law, she can (and will) absolutely do that.
You should maybe review some 11th grade Civics books before you post anymore.
If she gets elected, Hillary won't be writing new laws and AWBs. That's not what the President does. EOs can only direct that the government abide by or implement existing laws.
Congress is where new laws come from. Right now, both houses are comfortably Republican. That's why the last spate of gun bans went nowhere and the Dems had a temper tantrum.
Now, there'll be some changes when the election rolls around. In the Senate, the Dems need to take 4 seats if Hillary wins or 5 if Trump wins to take control of the chamber. Right now it's looking like they'll pick up 3 to 5 seats, so assume the balance will shift in the Senate.
In the House, the Dems need to pick up 30 seats to get a majority. Chances of that happening are slim to nil.
Final result: no new bans. The Dems need both houses of Congress to pass any new laws, they just don't have the horsepower to do it. They're also facing a narrow window of opportunity- Republicans will regain control of the Senate in 2018.
Worst case scenario, Congressional gridlock. Best case scenario, strong enough Republican majority that we have a decent shot at getting some laws rolled back.
>>30500272
worst case scenario hillary wins, fills the supreme court with liberal activist judges and rolls back the entire constitution.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/05/hillary_clinton_explains_her_nuanced_reading_of_the_second_amendment.html
>>30496847
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-mid-length-5-56-1-7-premium-rifle-kit.html
you don't have tons of options right now
and this is a worksafe board
I'm going to work
Whatever happened to the USAUSAUSA spam that we used to have every 4th? We'd all have fun at the expense of europoors and half the board would get three-day bans.
>>30495232
friendly reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Be9f7Ovgg
>>30495232
Barrel full of fireworks I got from south of the border months ago.
Then I'm going to fire my gun in the air
God bless America
>>30500545
>rolls back the entire constitution.
Ensuring that her legacy will be as the president who started the civil war.
mfw.
Just moved and haven't gotten enough pay yet to get out and shoot. Probably gonna head down to check out an open concert down by the river soon after another beer.
>>30500811
Democrats started the last civil war, so no surprises there.
>>30500648
>TFW you realize even a robot assassin didn't even carry cocked and locked
What the fuck.
>>30500687
>image_2.jpg
Phone poster pls go
>>30501156
>>30500687
Subtle anon, subtle.
Postin more freedom.
>>30501261
>>30495467
Having had one of these in the past, no it isn't the ideal first gun. It's the easiest way to turn new gun owners away from shooting.
so uh
what's gonna happen if i empty out a 12ga shell, replacing the shot with sparklers, and shoot it? will i die?
>>30501520
it would be extremely painful
>>30501724
FOR YOOOOOOOOOU
>>30501724
Herewegoagain
>>30495232
'MURIKA FUCK NIGGERS
SEND THEM BACK TO AFRICA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmFSR2E4sCY
>>30501520
I dunno, Considering dragons breath and nails is safe to shoot i figure sparklers will be. If you do, you need to film and upload. My theory is you will either have a big ball of fire or nothing because the velocity will be to fast for it to burn.
>>30501776
>1776
>>30501776
>1776
>select all pictures of pancakes
>>30501776
you got good taste
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p42uCWF7_Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRfDHmUuD3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8EwzisBEHc
>>30501776
>1776
all right tyrone its time
>>30495358
would you have sex with her for the sake full giggle?
>>30500545
>fills the supreme court with liberal activist judges and rolls back the entire constitution.
She has a 2 year window of opportunity. Senate has to confirm before she seats anybody. She MIGHT have a friendly Senate for the first half of her term. It won't be an overwhelming majority, either. It's not going to be like Obamacare, where they had enough votes to do it regardless of what we did. All we need to do is flip one of the indys, no confirmation.
Also, Hillary might wind up replacing one of the justices that Bill put on the court. That's a status quo situation, and the Senate might hold out for a more centrist nominee.
>>30502018
On the other hand Trump will tip the SCOTUS heavily in our favor.
MAGA
My 4th:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX1HM04irZw
>>30502150
Good dump m8
>>30502241
Good dumps always feel so nice when they're done
>>30500687
> even there is MLP
>>30495232
Bought some .22LR and .40sw to go shooting today.
>>30501867
that´s some high quality /pol/ stuff here
have some more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHM_PHKpKyU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoSCAnr-FRU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ5XuJy0dGs
I bought a bunch of shit: 9" BA barrel in 300 BLK, 8" KMR Alpha rail, KAK Shockwave kit, Rainier upper, AR15 Performance muzzle brake, gas block/tube, Geissele SSA-E trigger, BCM charging handle, BCG, and a Primary Arms MD-ADS red dot. Most everything is for a 300 Blackout pistol that's waiting for a stamp to become an SBR.
Yo dawg, I heard you like firework mortars, So I attached a mortar to your mortar so you can mortar while you mortar.
This is a 1" mortar tube with a 1/2" mortar tube attached.
>>30495232
the mossberg is 8+1 with ghost ring sights.
>did i do good /k?
Went to the range today
1/2
>>30503637
>the mossberg is 8+1
Gud, unless you're a dedicated hunter.
>>30503637
>with ghost ring sights.
Eh.. that's iffy.
>>30503637
Oh shit nigga you got a Steyr? Yeah, you did pretty damn good.
I keep forgetting how inexpensive they are
>>30495232
Was going to buy fireworks and booze. Then realized setting off fireworks in my street alone is pretty depressing so I decided to just sit in my house and drink alone. Pretty much a regular Monday, anon.
Setting off pic related tonight, all on one fuse to light then sit back and watch it all go in order.
>>30503705
its my all around shotty. for home and when im fishing for trout in the high mountains.
>>30503706
trying to find a hip holster is a bitch desu.
thinking imma get a blackwater cheapo pancake in large till i find someone making paddle.
>>30503744
>all go in order.
why not all at once?
>>30495232
Just bought a CZ 452 Ultra Lux thanks to /k/.
Now I just have to wait for it to ship. And buy some decent ammo.
...
>>30501776
nice digits
>>30503989
Quality > quanity
>>30503744
>Firework is illegal in my city
Fucking grass should stop being a pussy and catch fire all the time.
>>30503688
good god man, please tell me your shooting buck shot.
>>30495232
>probably from an online retailer rather than in-person
Do we tell him?
>>30504690
he wanted to make sure he shot every inch of the paper....
>Be in Portland
>fireworks going off non-stop last few hours
Good to know the anti-fun brigades haven't completely taken over this city
>>30500687
Is there even any indication of Applebloom being left-hoofed in the show
>>30502094
Well, duh.
>>30503674
>remshit
>>30495232
>tattoos
gross
>>30501990
only if I was wearing the knife-dildo from Seven.
