How effective is piano wire in military use as a weapon?
The question is..can spetsnaz shrug off real fucking nato.
I think not.
>>30478171
According to that pic, it stops bullet.
Pretty effective.
>>30478196
You can see he is clearly missing his shots.
>>30478205
The bullet cut the wire in half.
>>30478171
Well since most engagements typically occur at ranges farther than one can reach with a bit of wire, I'd say no. Its not a very good weapon.
But hey AGTM missiles use wire pretty effectively.
>>30478234
>But hey AGTM missiles use wire pretty effectively.
Underrated post.
>>30478171
Image is from Sweden 1986.
>>30478264
>just fwd my shit up
Bump.
>>30478264
>those wheels
HNNGGG
>>30478171
Its very useful. With a lathe and a machinists guide you can make some nice springs for ypur shitty open bolt subgun.
In all seriousness, except for spoopy garrotting and maybe trying to decapitate machine gunners on humvees, not really.
It was extremely effective in decapitating machine gunners in the Iraq .invasion
Love the crazy illustrations from cold war-era instruction manuals.
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>>30479940
Damn, can you tell any more or give a link? Haven't heard this story yet.
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>>30478171
As you can see from that image, it blocks bullets
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>>30478209
There is a hole being literally blown out of the back of that dudes chest, if not at least his upper arm, which would render him combat ineffective.
>>30480096
I guess not much story.
Lampost-piano wire-lampost
Humvee happily toot tooting along road
Mg doing shoot shooty
Humvee drives under wire
Mg ded
>>30478209
>he is clearly missing his shots
The guy is still more than two steps away from him and he's going all out on the fun switch. That pic is literally milliseconds from showing Spetsnaz being SHREKT.
>>30480105
These are really badass.
>>30480096
I was actually just talking out my ass. Ive heard that the germans made booby traps in wwII by stretching piano wire across the street at neck height for people in jeeps. I assumed one could do the same thing for machine gunners in humvees
>>30478222
not in soviet russia it don't
>>30480144
>MG3 gunner shouting and preparing to fire from hip
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>>30480206
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1652119/posts
>Deadly price paid for Humvee armor used to protect soldiers
http://www.stripes.com/news/humvee-gunners-in-najaf-face-web-of-wires-1.23702
http://www.stripes.com/news/humvee-gunners-set-sights-on-new-shield-1.40348
Articles from 2004-2006. Lot of talk about rebar sticking out of destroyed building and power cables hanging low from destruction.
Maybe just they don't tell about the media about the haji built wire traps or troops thought the annihilation of power lines was a trap made by iraqis.
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>>30480161
is this Denmark or Norway? The language doesn't quite seem German. might just be me though. I have commenced my holiday drinking.
nice artistry btw.
>>30480187
Nah man. That wire would snap. Would maybe cut the gunner a bit but wouldnt cut his head off.
Now what they do is attatch the wire to a bomb and you drive over it and wrap around a wheel and set off the bomb.
Most of the Iraq republican guard had fled their positions. Small pockets of resistance in a few outskirts but mostly they ran.
When the turks and syrians and iranians started to attack, thats when the ieds got sophisticated with cell phone detonators and kill switched car bombs.
>>30480256
I think swedish, norwegian would have more funny alphabets.
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>>30480275
No, it's from Norway.
>>30480275
Ah. I I forgot about the swedes. You might be right.
>>30480275
They use basically the same extra shit, mostly just o, ö and ä as far as i know. They share a lot of vocabulary, but the spelling tends to differ
>>30480317
Norway has the o with a stripe which is the easiest way to differentiate swedish and norwegian.
>>30480273
>Nah man. That wire would snap. Would maybe cut the gunner a bit but wouldnt cut his head off.
Wrong, wires strong across the road was a very common method of eliminating jeep occupants.
Not saying it was common in Iraq though. Just saying that a wire strung across the road will kill a vehicle occupant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_cutter_(jeep)
>>30480256
It's from Norway, a practical guide for the infantry with instructions on everything from how to apply camouflage to fighting in a nuclear war (!).
Here it is if anyone's interested: http://documents.tips/documents/ud-17-02-soldaten-i-felt.html
SoldF-illustrations are pretty great
>>30480496
Man, the swedes even got colour illustrations in theirs!
Three generations of dumbshit Pvt Nilsson being captured by the enemy
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>>30480478
Nuke?
>>30480524
yes, Watch out for back draft
>>30480171
thats part of the background
>>30480402
This thread hits me right in the childhood.
i remember finding my grandpas copy of this book at our family farm, must have read it 5-6 times.
The illustrations are really amazing.
>>30480524
http://www.oldjimbo.com/Outdoors-Magazine/vintersoldat.pdf
SoldF winter manual
>>30480567
>http://www.oldjimbo.com/Outdoors-Magazine/vintersoldat.pdf
Sweet!
I think Norway stopped updating theirs after the Cold War, unfortunately. :(
>>30480591
Nope. The recent ones are just kept off limits to civillians.
>>30480619
I did service in 2010, and we used the 1985-edition, lol.
Who knows, though - they might have decided to get their heads out of their asses and modernized since then.
>>30480686
wait, are we talking about 'Soldaten i felt' or some winter manuals?
Started service in '10 too.
>>30480706
"Soldaten i felt".
I'm pretty sure they made sure to update the boring safety regulation manuals though...
>>30480754
There's a new edition of it.
Yup, that one is being updated every couple of years!
>>30478171
Getting choked to death will never not be effective
>>30478171
>How effective is piano wire in military use as a weapon?
not much in the scenario depicted in that ilustration
