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Soup /k/ommandos, just a hypothetical scenario and question.
>be you
>be taking a walk
>behind you, you hear a deep growl and screaming
>you turn to see a 70 pound pit bull, broken free of it's chain coming right at you
>you draw your CCW
>just as you get it out the dog latches on to your left arm and knocks you to the ground
>you managed to kill the dog in the struggle
>the dog's owner, an enraged fat urbanite hipster lesbian runs up to you
>she gets up in your face and threatens you for "murdering" her dog
>she pushes and punches you while you're trying to tend to your wounds
Provided you're in a "No duty to retreat" state(in my case, Pennsylvania), are you legally allowed to remove kalewhale with 230 grains of .45?
>She attacks
>Feel threatened or endangered
>Shoot her
>Tell police she attacked with her dog
>???????
>profit
>>30471111
>be you
>be in ATF
>be taking a walk
>behind you, you hear a deep growl and screaming
>you turn to see a 70 pound pit bull OPEN FIRE GET COVER THROW FLASHBANG AT NEAREST CHILD KEEP FIRING RELOAD AND FIRE UNTIL ALL MAGAZINES ARE EMPTY CALL FOR BACKUP AMIBEINGDETAINED!?
>>30471111
shit luck getting attacked by a dog and whale on the same day
>>30471111
If you're injured and being attacked it's even more of a reasonable argument if you're brought before a jury. If it was bad enough I couldn't subdue her I'd shoot her, she's the reason I got attacked in the first place and that shit could have killed someone if it wasn't me.
Dogs are half the reason I carry, the other half is monkeys.
>>30471146
Believe me, I'm not ATF. Honest.
>>30471165
I mean, I got quads tho so I guess I'm doing something right.
Woah woah woah
>see dog
>automatically go for gun
2 pit bulls broke out from three houses down on my block and everyone lost their shit. I saw their faces as they run straight towards me and they were grinning with their tounges out having a good time. While everyone his I played fetch with them in my front yard for 2 hours till my neighbor came and got them. Most pit bulls are friendly and not everyone is a Michael Vick level of dog owner. Check body language before you decide to attack don't just assume.
>>30471345
An unfamiliar dog barreling towards you, teeth bare and snarling(not to mention AFTER BREAKING OFF OF A FUCKING LEASH) is enough reason to pull a gun, fuckwit.
>aww, it's a little puppy
>it's teething on me! aww
>wait, why is there a chunk missing out of my arm?
Have fun getting mauled to death, hippy scum.
>>30471345
This. People seem to be irrationally afraid of these dogs.
As long as it isn't owned by white trash or hood niggers, they're usually fine.
Pitbulls are like niggers
They need to be put down on the spot
>>30471111
An average sized man should have no problem with a dog that size, especially with a collar on. Anything smaller than a Rottweiler really. Hardmode is one of those big dogs with loose neck skin so it's hard to grab them.
>>30471345
>Be pit owner
>Dog doesn't even bark and has always been a giant baby
>Find that he's not in the fence one day
>Find that he has dug out a hole under fence and escaped
>Assume he's already been ATF'd, but go looking for him
>Go to park down the road from house
>See him in sand box
>He's literally laying on his back and three little kids are all petting him
>The mom tells me he's been coming here every day for two weeks and playing with all the kids
>She thought the owner was one of the kid's parents
>All the kids pet him, play fetch, and give him treats
>He's been escaping while I'm at work and coming back before I get home
>mfw dog is cucking me
Pits are truly evil dogs
>>30471502
You're right. Only 95% of pits are owned by douchebags who train them to guard their stash houses, so i should totally reserve judgment until the snarling murderbag gets close enough to pounce.
>>30471345
>>30472177
>Make up 5% of dogs
>Commit 70% of attacks
>He a good boy, he dindu nuffin!
>>30471111
>70 pound pit bull, broken free of it's chain coming right at you
then its not a pitbull and some other breed of dog or a mutt
pic related is a pitbull
>>30471345
>>30471502
>>30472177
>dog mauls you
>you pull gun
>dog barks JUST A PRANK BRO ITS JUST A PRANK
Yeah too bad.
OP's scenario is you draw in response to the dog approaching you while growling, which if you actually know about dogs you'll know they don't do that with tongue a flappin and tail wagging.
Then in OP example you kill it in response to it latching onto your arm and wrenching you down, which a trained dog doesn't do for play.
Cry librul tears. I like dogs and you guys are idiots if you would lose an arm for one.
>>30472177
Negligent owner
>>30471111
>70 lbs
Kill it with your foot bro. Same for the whale.
>>30471128
this. dead whales tell no tales.
>>30471111
you'd have a hard time proving why you needed to use a weapon against a variety of woman that you could have restrained unarmed.
if your jurisdiction allows for a plea of imperfect self defense, I'd take that and deal with the consequences of a manslaughter charge rather than murder 2.
srsly, when in doubt, always defer to the "reasonable person". would a reasonable person ever think there's a need to employ a firearm against an unarmed woman? land whale, deerneck, horseface, she-baboon...theres not a single damned type of woman out there a man shouldn't be able to set on her ass rapidly if she's unarmed, and if there is, kill yourself for being so unmanned.
>>30471111
>ez self defense for the dog
>owner attacks you
>begins attacking you
>pump her chest full of lead
>court time!
>dog attacks you
>owner attacks you
>state your injury was debilitating to the point where you had no way to defend yourself without using lethal force
>bring up that owner attacked you knowing full well you were armed
>bring up that owner was not allowing you to tend to your wound, and was not allowing you to retreat
>given the circumstances the only choice you had was to defend yourself with your already presented weapon
>>30475828
I think they read up to "Pit bull" then spouted their shit.
>>30475885
Well, the dog has incapacitated your left arm and you can't well drop the gun from your right arm to free up your arm. I suppose the argument could be made that you should have just pistol-whipped her, you're on your own for an excuse there although I can't imagine it's too hard to come up with one.
>>30471111
I wonder who could be behind this post
>>30476559
I'd imagine "immediate emotional distress and/or shock" could be a good excuse, but then again, I'm not a lawfag.
>>30475870
"what a reasonable person would do" doesn't apply quite so readily when you've had a chunk of your arm bitten off and are presumably losing an alarming amount of blood, and then been attacked by a person who knows full well that you're armed.
Also
>woman that you could have restrained unarmed
One of your arms has been mauled by a dog with enough force to bring you to the ground, so you'll probably have to do this with one arm. The arm that is already holding the gun. Trying to reholster it in a timely fashion in a concealed holster while being attacked isn't going to happen, and dropping the gun to try to subdue her literally single handedly runs a very high risk of her being able to pick up the gun and shoot your stupid ass to death.
Women aren't considered non-threats just because they're women.
I've never tried it, but I heard that if you allow an attacking dog to bite your forearm, that you can then put your other forearm over the back of the dog's neck, and drop your weight forward, easily breaking its neck.
>>30475805
That's actually because people are surprisingly shit at identifying dogs. Look at all the attacks in the 80's, 90's early 2000s by gsd and rotties, those dogs didn't magically change into good dogs overnight is just that right now every single attack is identified as a pitbull because those are the "scary dogs" right now
>>30472177
One day he will bite a kid and you are looking at a serious lawsuit. Until then.
>>30477006
in denial much?
>>30477091
>implying he's not right
That dog that bit me was an AR-15
>>30471678
A 70lb pit will Fuck your shit up man.
>>30475870
You're one dumb nigger.
>>30475870
>theres not a single damned type of woman out there a man shouldn't be able to set on her ass rapidly if she's unarmed, and if there is, kill yourself for being so unmanned.
kek go a few rounds with her senpai
I would definitely pay to see that
>>30475870
>theres not a single damned type of woman out there a man shouldn't be able to set on her ass rapidly.
true at least for me there are guys much smaller than me one of my colleges don't even reach up to my armpits. not sure if he could defeat a true hambeast 4 times his weight that falls on him in feminist rage.
>>30477241
>Miesha_Tate
>135 lb
dude that's a child mans weight
>>30477241
I love the meme that women can train to a level that makes them physically competitive with men. The size disparity alone means a fat male retard with no fighting experience can demolish Olympic-level female athletes.
Daily reminder that even a male featherweight or welterweight champion will get shit on by any average guy over 6 feet. Weight classes exist for a reason...
>>30477473
>a male featherweight or welterweight champion will get shit on by any average guy over 6 feet
I know what you're trying to do, and I derail your derail
>>30477486
Are the tabs and the steam page on purpose?
>>30477486
>my OC's cutie mark
solid bait, I'm genuinely impressed.
>>30477473
it's not that the smaller guy can't possibly fight the bigger but the chances they take in regards of injury is not comparable so it's unfair to let them fight.
>>30477486
hurry up and upgrade to windows 10 or crop your outdated taskbar out next time
>>30477529
>windows 10
>>30471111
>Provided you're in a "No duty to retreat" state(in my case, Pennsylvania), are you legally allowed to remove kalewhale with 230 grains of .45?
Reminder that if you have to ask if it's legal you probably shouldn't do it. As even if it is legal that isn't going to protect you from getting dragged through the courts in a potentially unnecessary civil suit and bleeding money.
>>30477529
Sorry you're too cucked to get the features you want from your OS. They're literally just a click away.
http://www.classicshell.net
post ebul assault doggers
>>30477486
10/10 image
>>30477486
>can I fuck batman
... I think I could go without knowing what other people use the internet for...
>>30479899
>newfag detected
>>30477486
>furry porn and clop folders are clearly empty
im afraid i can only give you an 8/10 for this
>>30479763
ITS COMIN RIGHT FOR ME
>>30475805
I don't care for pit bulls, but some dog bites are just going to laughed off
>>30477006
Honestly you should just change the scary furniture on the dog to something more hunting style, so shitlibs will get off your back.
>>30471678
>an average man should have no problem with a wolverine of that size, especially with a collar on. Anything smaller than a badger, really. Hardmode is one of those raccoons who only come out at night so you can't see them.
>>30479908
>>newfag detected
Your newfag radar needs serious re-calibration.
>>30471502
Guess which types of people let their dog run loose in public?
>>30480001
How do you not understand joke tabs then?
>>30471678
Bit into your own arm until it hurts... See how little effort that took with your weak human jaw muscles? Now imagine an animal designed around its jaws doing that.
>>30471678
Fucking possums and badgers will fuck your shit up.
There's a theory that humans evolved a tradeoff between endurance and raw power (something about how muscles are structured), hence why we're world-class distance runners but are much weaker than a lot of other primates.
>>30477130
A 70lbs pit is a malnourished dog.
>>30479943
>Not an ATF hat
>>30471111
>not bringing your own tactical pitbull
Call me a sociopath if you want but I've been alive for 27 years and have not yet really come to understand why snyone would want a dog to begin with. It's a drooling, farting, idiotic creature at best for whom the best case scenario is you love it terribly for ten years or whatever and then it does and you're crushed. Worst case scenario it's like taking care of a retarded family member and then one day it mauls your kid.
>>30480056
Uh, my jaw hurts before my skin does. That's what I've never understood about zombie movies- if you put on a denim jacket you're perfectly safe, human teeth can barely break human skin as it is.
>>30480837
More like super dense musculature requires a much higher caloric intake, humans sacrifice denser muscles for higher brain function. Endurance is more a byproduct of that as it's easier for our circulatory system to reach the muscle cells and replenish them.
>>30471345
As a guy with two pits that sleep next to me every night, the situation as op described it is nothing like the usual disparaging bs where people we're afraid because a dog exists with 500 yards of them.
>>30475805
Youre mistaking a dogs aggression for it's ability to do enough harm to merit a report. Like the usual ignorant turd. May as well bitch about motorcycles, any firearm not on the California roster, GMOs and shoes with dangerous laces you can trip over.
>>30477486
>5 foot 10 isn't manlet
WHEN WILL THEY LEARN HAHAHA
>>30475816
>then its not a pitbull and some other breed of dog or a mutt
Because there Couldnt possibly be pibbles of different lineages that grow to be larger than ye olde amstaff. 70lbs is possible, it's just at the extreme end.
Bullies are a different story obviously
>>30477412
Pacman is around 150 and Bruce Lee was 165. Holly Holm, Cyborg, Rousey etc all hand around 135-145.
I think you're kinda underestimating proportional strength for size. Outweighing any of those people by 20lbs wouldn't help much unless you have the same ability or conditioning
ITT: BAN ASSUALT DOGS NAO!!!!!11!!!!!1111!
>>30477486
Major\Minor dev is a cunt
>>30471111
My state says I am fully in my rights to put the landwhale down.
>>30471502
>As long as it isn't owned by white trash or hood niggers, they're usually fine.
>usually
Nah they aren't they will one day snap and kill the owner her their child.
>>30471111
if you think the jury would believe a reasonable person was in fear of their life... then yes
i doubt a reasonable person would be in fear of their life if a dyke was slaping them around in their face after they shot her dog
just kick her dog like kirkpao
>>30485410
if you know anything about dog psychology, its that dogs respect strength. weak owners shouldnt own powerful strong dogs. i can guarantee that the mom in that story did not fucking discipline the dog the first time it bit her
>>30485279
>>30485279
it worked for the UK!!! they now have one of the lowest rates of dog crime and mass dog biting sprees in all of europe!!!!!!!!
>Dangerous Dogs Act of 1991
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1991/65/contents
The UK has a law which banned certain breeds or ‘types’ of dogs. This is called ‘breed specific legislation’ and it makes it illegal to own, breed, sell or give away the following types of dog:
Pit Bull Terrier
Japanese Tosa
Dogo Argentino
Fila Brasileiro
Illegal possession of one of these dogs can result in a fine of up to £5,000 and/or six months' in prison and the police can, and do, prosecute.
>>30486376
>>30486376
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>>30477486
saved
>>30485410
Jesus, stop spreading such disinformation. You're as bad as liberal cucks screaming ban assault rifles after someone gets shot by a criminal or mentally deranged lunatic. PitBulls are wonderful, caring companions. Shitty owners does not make an entire breed shitty.
Are dogs niggers of the animal world?
>loud
>smell bad
>language is practically unintelligible
>bred to be subservient
>asians hate them
>get shot by police all the time due to constantly refusing to obey orders
>>30484898
You have very weak jaws then. Do you eat much meat?
>>30485410
Her name was Porsche and you contend this doesn't fall under white trash?
>>30471509
Atf pls go
>>30471678
this , all you have to do is turn their collar. I own 2 rottweilers and those lil shitters are way more fucking hard because their thick ass necks.
Also 70 is jack shit , thats the size of a fat elementary school kid
This is why I don't like dogs. Because not only could they make a mess out of me, but if I did anything other than stand there and take it, I'd have an owner to piss off, and usually people care about their dogs way more than they care about other people.
>>30488025
>mfw normies equate fur = innocence
>>30480056
>an animal designed around its jaws doing that.
>implying intelligent creation
>>30476579
> filename
>>30477486
>is Batman real
>cab I fuck Batman
Kekeroni
>>30485350
This.
>Oh no I got bad reviews time to rerelease it to censor the opinions of my customers
>Its just another RPG maker game
I for one would love a good furfag game, but there aren't that many furries who give a shit enough to do any of it.
>>30476540
This
>>30484898
Here
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2221645/Man-PCP-bites-finger-swallows-naked-carjack-attempt.html
>>30488283
>implying that dog wasn't literally bred over generations to bite hard
U R SO DUM
>>30488490
[citation needed]
>>30488435
>Man-PCP-bites-finger-swallows-naked-carjack-attempt
>>30488561
>breeding needs a citation
Citation is required for statements which are not common knowledge, my educationally deprived friend. The "Pit" in pit bull is literally a reference to a dog fighting pit.
>>30488595
Doesn't mean they actively selected for biting strength nor is selecting for a trait the same as designing one.
>>30477486
>Major/Minor
How has this game not been banned off Steam yet?
>>30488620
>Playing semantic games
Design by domesticated intent
>>30475843
KEK
