Friday night milsurp
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Post yer milsurp, faggots.
Israeli surplus Kareen Mk.1.
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>>30471062
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>>30471084
Othila Rune: “Homeland” “Ancestral Lot.” Rune of anscetral spiritual power, divine inheritance and earthly estate.
So a friend of mine has an ariska rifle. He doesn't know anything about it aside form it's "his dad's old jap rifle".
I'm going to look it over soon. What should I keep an eye out for?
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>>30471097
SLAV SHIT, THE LOT OF YOU, ARE YOU PROUD? FUCKING NIGGER SLAVS
>>30471106
Post some pics of it and I'll tell you what it is.
>>30471110
((((you))))
Bulgarian surplus Arcus 94
Here's a pic from the civil operater gun club days.
Shit, that was a long time ago.
>>30471120
No pics yet. Going to see it next weekend. So what should I look for before I offer to buy it off him?
>>30471110
They Arisakas you dumb nignog.
M95 long rifle!
>>30471138
operator*
Another.
>>30470972
>tfw no Arisaka to refurbish and call my own
Why is Gunbroker the only place to find Nagant Revolvers?
>>30471167
Dunno.
>>30471162
I like your stock did you refinish it in pine tar?
>>30471123
thank (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((you)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>>30471183
It was years ago, so I can't remember the particular shade of stain I used, but I sealed it with boiled linseed oil.
>>30471182
do I even want to know about the springs?
>>30471142
Make sure his grandpa wasn't a bubba and chopped it up. Or the stock was sanded or something like that. Just like any collectable.
>>30471164
>refurbish
AKA devaluing a collectable.
>>30471209
Okay I'll check that and the crest.
>>30471110
Anon, did an ivan rape your sweet nana back in '45? Come on, we're all friends here no need to keep it all inside.
>>30471237
Having an intact mum doesn't really increase the value of one unless it's a super nice and original one or a super rare one. For your typical Arisaka it doesn't add that much value.
>>30471175
I have an American one of those.
Decided on a new pic.
>>30471299
Want
>>30471389
I need a better Lebel and a Rosalie to put on her.
>>30470972
Where to buy millsirp where there's no price gouging?
Do you guys mind labeling some of these for a noob? There's some sexy stuff here. I only recognize ones included in WW2 video games though... didn't know about all the sexy, affordable (or not so affordable) milsurp options out there
t. bought a 91/30 as first gun
>>30471635
which ones are you interested in?
>>30471635
4 u
>>30470972
>>30470993
>>30471034
arisakas
>>30471058
Nambu
>>30471062
mosin
>>30471120
P38 and Radom
>>30471149
M95 steyr
>>30471175
Krag jorgansen
>>30471209
Mas 45 and Mas 36
>>30471224
Berthier
>>30471261
Krag
>>30471299
Lebel
>>30471773
>Mas 45 and Mas 36
>Mas 45
Mle-45 is a .22lr trainer. That's a Mle-49/56
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>>30471686
All of these look neat, especially that boxy lil gem up top
>>30471793
Well I was going to do the ones you linked, but >>30471773 beat me to it.
>>30471793
MAS 49s are under appreciated
>>30471773
>>30471788
Thank you, my friends, for indulging my wood for wood.
At least the Cali laws can't say shit about my Milsurp.
>>30472878
...for now.
>>30471209
But I want the stock to shine and the bluing to look like new
Bought this fuggin sexy K98 last week
So got everything installed on my K43. EXCEPT for the bolt. Now mine is an AC45 so it does not have the gold open latch and has a special way to put the bolt back in compared to those with the latch. However the rear of the bolt housing is catching on the rear of the receiver. Anyone with a no hold open latch know what the issue is?
>>30471062
Why is your Nagant of rust comrade?
>>30471149
Damn I need that in my life. But gotta get my priorities straight. Russian 1895 is going to happen this year, come hell or high water.
>>30473180
Buy a sporterized one then. The collectible value of those is gone to begin with.
>>30471829
It's because they're rather hard to come by.
>>30473306
Russian capture?
>>30471209
When I'm not poor anymore, I might try hunting for a MAS-36.
I've developed an interest in French militaria; and having another milsurp bolt-action is fine too.
>>30471829
Oh shit.
I have been looking for a regular 49 for a while.
The 49/56's are cool but I really wanna get a 49.
I do have a MAS 1936 and I love it.
The first rifle I ever bought for myself. No regrets.
Also picture of my MAS 36.
Still need to get a the actual sling for it.
>>30471110
Hi Alex.
>>30471363
Somebody posting my image. Nice.
>tfw you can buy a really nice Turk $70 cheaper then a shitty 91/30.
>>30474134
What has this world come to?
>>30474134
Where?
>>30470972
Only this
>>30474178
Gunbroker of all places.
I got a nice m39 too. Still waiting for it to show up.
>>30474134
>shitty 91/30.
But I like my 91/30...
>>30471208
I sure do
>>30474294
Thanks, what exactly did you type into their search bar? I keep getting Canik TP9's for some reason
>>30473727
Yea its Russian Captured its a 1941 duv with some slav stenciling on it
>>30474608
Too bad someone polished the bolt.
whats a good price for a lebel rifle, or .308 converted mas?
>>30475346
$750+ for the Lebel these days and $200 for the Mas but I strongly, STRONGLY recommend against getting a 308 one. Century did a horrible job converting them and you almost certainly will not like it, in terms of reliability nor accuracy.
>>30470972
>chinese enfields
>milsurp
>>30475200
Got her for $575 with 210 rounds of Turkish Surplus with 10 rounds of PPU SP so I don't feel too bad about the bolt
>feel pretty content with family for now, figure won't buy another for a year or so
>visit this thread
>instant desire for milsurp
Help me ;-; tell me it's a waste of a money
>>30470972
Mug diiiiiick
>>30471209
>French Rifles
Just that is enough to make me DIAMONDS
>>30471299
FUUUUCK
I CANNOT RESIST FRENCH RIFLES IM LIKE WHAT JERRY IS TO KIDS BUT TO FRENCH RIFLES FUUUUUUCK
>>30473306
Fuck
That is the sexiest Mauser I have EVER seen.
>>30473659
Steel can sadly rust
Even glorious Russian steel
Mostly matching 1940 German "147"
>>30477151
I get to finger blast her every night and you don't
>>30477164
Dammit I want some sweet Mauser trigger well too bad I'm a poorfag
werent you in the TS the other day? or am i smoking crack?
>>30477183
Don't feel bad even a poorfag can afford a Swedish Mauser to play with I got mine for $300 and its my best looking surplus
>>30477054
The fuck else you gonna waste it on? Sit down, shut up, and buy a Arisaka.
>>30470993
jup
>>30477151
For me, it's this one. The wood gets me rock hard.
>>30477160
I always wondered, but what's the indentation next to the bolt handle for on the K98?
>>30477353
B-but I'm saving for money for next semester ;-;
Where should I start looking?
>>30477421
The cutout in the stock is to help you grasp the bolt easier. On German K98s, the bolts are bent downward more so than the yugo Mausers.
>>30477446
Ah, makes sense. Thank you.
>>30477434
Gunbroker, gun shows.
>>30477557
I live in Ohio. Gun shows are about 90% fuds and the other 9% is tacticool muh apokolips guys.
That one dude with milsurp is usually overpriced as fug
>>30471149
10/10, do want.
Here's mine for you.
>>30477610
I'm in Michigan and it's the same here. But every so often you can find deals. Got my Mas 49 at one for $500. Found (and stupidly passed on) a 49/56 for $350 about a year ago.
The only way to know for sure is to go to the shows.
I need more milsurp pls
>>30477681
Last gun show where I got that 1897 there was a 91/30 for $400.
He was bragging about how it's all numbers matching except bayonette..
>>30471062
Friends have told me the hex bolt is better.
Why is that the case?
>>30477912
They are prewar, and usually in nicer shape. Beyond that there isn't any real performance difference.
>>30477941
Round receivers are prewar too, m8.
>>30478000
I know, they changed a couple years before the war. It comes down to fit and finish, and usually the hex receivers are nicer and a little bit rarer.
>>30473818
It's not a French issue 49, it's a Syrian contract 49. Difference is it has a MAS 36 style bayonet.
>>30477353
>buy a gun that shoots dollar bills
At least suggest a Mauser or something.
>>30479794
You're right, I should have said a reloading press and $2000 in dies first. Then ammo is a non-issue.
>>30471106
Splinters
>>30470972
this scope is my most expensive piece of milsurp. 650-700$.
>>30481264
It would look better with some Enosa scopes...
>>30478301
Just prewar stuff is nicer. I have a 1935 round receiver refurbished that is very nice.
Suppose i'll join in the fun
>>30484757
Muh Milsurp
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>>30484070
I thought they didn't start on the round receiver until 38?
My nugget knowledge is slipping.
>>30484844
The round receivers started in I think 1934. Izhevsk stopped making Hex in 1935 I believe, and Tula made both round and Hex in 1936 before going to round only.
>>30484870
I need to brush up on my Mosin history, been so focused on French stuff.
>>30484908
I'm in the market for a Chatellerault right now. Got a gun how coming up on the 23rd, guy I got my Sestroryetsk from should be there, he had several Peter the Greats last month. But he doesn't have a French nugget, sadly.
Got a question on cosmoline and stocks.
I'll be de-gunking a K98 when I get back home from college. How does the stock fair after cleaning it off from cosmoline? SHould I refinish it after? If so, are there any good finishes specifically for this?
This is the first Mosin and the first gun I bought for myself. Looks very clean and feels perfect. Should I take it to a gunsmith and pay $60 to have it inspected for safety before shooting?
This is the only picture I have, I pick her up on Friday.
>>30484963
M91, nice. which factory?
Does the bolt match?
Is there an [SA] stamp on it?
Check the tang date
it is probably fine.
>>30484963
Nah, it'll be fine.
>>30484929
Does he have a name/website? I need a WW1 (or earlier) dated M91.
>>30484997
1934 Izhevsk (hex). They said it was all matching but I think the magazine was mismatched, maybe the buttplate too. Everything else matches. Took a flashlight to the bore and it looked clean as a whistle. A little cosmoline remains and there are some TINY specks of rust in the chamber right before the bore.
>>30474437
I just browse the curio & relics category and come across cool stuff.
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>>30485075
Forgot to mention it's a 91/30. Am I wrong on this?
>>30484870
Rounds may have started in 34 but the earliest I have seen is 35.
>>30484908
All I do is mosins. I don't even have many of them. Yet.
>>30471036
>League of Legends
*vomits*
>>30485088
It's a 91/30 Finn capture, or at least in a Finn stock. Look for an SA, D, or 41.
>>30485071
Like this?
>>30485071
no, he is a private collector.
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>>30485088
Interesting, it doesn't have a front sight hood, though looking again I notice the stamped handguard rings. Check the bolt numbers and the receiver numbers. If they match you're good. Check if there is a stamp on the barrel shank for refurbish, it will be a square with a line through it. If it was refurbished likely nothing is actually original on it. Also interesting is the hanger on the butt, thats a Fin sling hanger. check for an [SA] stamp. In any case it is probably just fine to fire.
>>30485125
what this guy said, its probably a Finn capture.
>>30485104
they started in '34 or '35. I know Tula made both during '36
>>30485125
Ok. I'll report back in a milsurp thread on Friday with all the specifics. IIRC, everything was soviet. it is also counterbored.
i just bought a yugo sks, its coated in cosmoline. any advice on cleaning it?
>>30485164
It would be pretty neat if it's a Finn capture, almost certainly would have been captured in the winter war with that date.
>>30485173
Use your tongue
>>30485179
So if it has an SA, D, or 41 anywhere on the weapon it could be a Finn capture?
>>30485202
The markings will be on the barrel shank, sometimes below the woodline.
>>30470993
Yo, let me have one. You have two! You can spare one!
>>30485202
They will be on the barrel shank. It will mean that it was at one point Finn property. How they acquired it is another story you will likely never know
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>>30485211
Found one more picture, though the angle probably doesn't give a lot of information
Found one more picture,
I want to get into milsurps but I don't wanna dive too deep for my first one. Whats the cheapest yet still interesting and usable milsurp on the market right now? Is it still the Mosin?
>>30485223
That is definitely a Finn stock. See the splice.
>>30484776
See the [SA] stamp and D stamp in pic
Maybe you guys can help me. I have what I think is a nagant. Uses the ammo, has the 5 shot internal magazine. But what is weird is, the bolt isn't straight, it's bent like a hunting rifle. Also, the front sights aren't the circle ones. It's like a traditional rifle. Also, instead of the bands that hold the wood around the barrel, it looks to be just riveted on. Can anyone give me an idea of what type of mosin it is? I can't get a picture, as i put it in layaway at a pawn for 100 dollars.
Oh also, it has that red star insignia on the butt of it. Dunno if that would mean anything.
>>30485255
Sounds sporterized.
>>30485262
Yeah, that was what I was afraid of. It didn't have a scope on it, but it probably did at one time.
>>30485255
>Nagant
>talking about a Mosin
Does this trigger anyone else? This is a Nagant.
Anyway, sounds like Bubba done fucked that rifle.
>>30470972
>tfw no cheap 7mm jap
>>30485247
Ok thanks everyone
>>30485285
I apologize for triggering you.
Posting muh uncommon mosins
>>30484963
>CA DROS form...
I feel bad for you Anon...
>>30485342
>you thought it was your common m44, but it was I, 1943 trials rifle!
>>30485370
[spoiler]I paid $470 for it[/spoiler]
I tried posting this in the QTDDTOT but that failed.
Two digit serial number, only proof mark is in the pic. Super sure it's a trainer but what's with the "H" in the manufacturer mark?
>>30485385
Hope you can return it
>>30485385
But why
Muh dragoon
>>30485481
>>30485524
Because I had some extra money and wanted one now. I was at the last gun shop in my area and didn't want to wait for another one to show up (whenever that may be) and didn't want to wait for a transfer. I'm also going back to college soon and wanted to shoot a Mosin with friends and family before that time came.
I paid the extra $$$ for timeliness.
>>30485372
Neat. I have a 91/59, I should probably clean it up or just sell it for a 100% profit. Either or.
>>30485600
A 91/59 would be nice. I have a m38, I need to get all the carbines.
>the I will never be able to afford a st Petersburg cavalry carbine
>>30485676
theres one in this thread, yo.
>>30484757
>>30487733
You fuck. I thought you meant a cavalry carbine. I got all excited. FOR NOTHING.
>>30485142
Yes but without the SA stamp if possible.
I used to not care about that but these days I'm a lot more particular about my milsurp.
>>30485232
Depends how you define cheap.
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Are Lee Enfield No 1 Mk3 rifles rarer than the No 4 Mk 1 and 2 now?
I want a Lee Enfield and I want to get them all eventually, but I want to be able to get the rarer one first since I'm afraid they'll become unavailable before I can buy it if I go for the more common version.
>>30487827
It's not hard if you're okay with a Balkan gun.
Otherwise, yeah, good luck.
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>>30487824
oh, lol sorry didn't mean to mislead you like that, I meant the 91/59.
>>30488439
I know refinishing is frowned upon in these threads, so what do you guys like to do instead to clean and protect the wood?
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>>30471142
If it's been bubbafied, it's going to have a lot lower value than if it's as-issued. Anything that is different than the military issued it lowers value. If it's a type 38 and it was shot post-war, there's a good chance it was rechambered to 6.5mm-.257 Roberts. The dies are readily available and brass can be formed from .257 Roberts or 7mm Mauser brass. If it's a type 99 and it was shot post-war, there's a chance it was rechambered to .30-06. I have one of those in bubbafied form. Shoots a good pattern with a hot handload, not so good (2" at 100 yards) with factory .30-06. Ask him if it's been shot much and have him show you some ammo and reloading dies if there's any around.
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>>30477132
I love my MAS 36. One of those semis in 7 1/2 Frog is in my future. Got some projects to get out of the way first, though.
>>30471097
That's probably one of rifle's previous owners' house mark. Every Finnish farm or homestead used to have one and the one your M39 has is one of the most common symbols.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_mark
New family photo
>>30478521
kek underrated post
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>>30485342
Uncommon mosins you say. Here's my 1944 Tula M44.
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>>30492773
Balkan refurb. The only issue with it is that the bore is nearly shot out, maybe 25% life left.
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>>30477421
I'm glad you like my M48. I still can't believe I got it for $250, it's in near perfect/unfired condition. The 1 issue I have it with is that I can't turn the safety all the way to the right to lock the bolt. Anyone know what could be causing this?
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>>30492846
Hey guys.
Would anyone be interested in doing WWII relic hunting in Ukraine? I've done paleontology prospecting digs with a pretty respectable guy these past couple of years and he was talking about getting a group together to go Eastern Europe to dig up WWII artifacts. Only way we can go is if there are enough people participating so he doesn't lose money.
Obviously, this type of shit isn't cheap, but he's brought back some "interesting" things in the past so it's definitely worth it. I'll probably post in a couple threads on here to gauge interest and, if enough people want to go, get more details and start a new thread.
The trip would probably take place next summer.
>>30471182
is this of glorious full auto nagant revolver now?
>>30471829
theres one for sale near me for 1200, original 7.5 french cal and comes with a issued scope. worth it?
>>30473719
how do you like the keltec carbine anon? and which mags does that one take? is it worth $500?
>>30473837
dose gloves for dat extra skin color online anonymity
>>30473837
One hell of a nice purchase. I'm still scoping out for one.
>>30494231
Yeah, especially if it's not a Syrian contract.
>>30494251
>Anon
...
Anyways it's ok. I wouldn't pay $500 for it. It takes Sig 226 mags, which sucks.
>>30474134
91/30s are still like $150 here in california
>>30494319
it is a syrian contract, does that mean its dirty and shit
>>30494319
im in cuckinfornia, so prices are inflated even for pieces of shit like that because we need a bullet button on them and middleman FFL to install bullet button who is willing to then ship to FFL in CA
>>30494388
No, Syrian contracts are just slightly more common is all. Still a good deal.
>>30494380
Then what are you telling us for?
Buy them and throw them on Gunbroker for $300. Moron.
>>30494571
not really any profit to be made after transfer fees and shiping anon. do they really go for 300 on gunbroker? who buys at that price
can I join the club? Also have a swede M38 sittin at my LGS
>>30494777
i would buy a few to store away. you know someone else is going to do it. as a result, cali nugget prices will rise soon.
youll literally wake up one morning and find mosins are going for $280 (the new standard price everywhere else).
>>30495337
Considering there's a guy on gunbroker, from Cali, tryin to sell a 91/30 for like $450 and it has been there for like 8 months now.... I am highly skeptical of this other anons claim. He has like 4 of them up for sale. Ones a pitted to shit 1916 Tula also.
>>30495337
i think the reason mosins arent going for much in cali right now is because everyone wants to get their semi auto salt rifles before the bans and shit take place. i think also why people are maybe desperate to sell bolt action milsurp
>>30495265
Nice Ljungman. I can't remember how many of those I've passed up thinking "I'll find a cheap one later".
