/meg/- Military Enlistment General
>Equality Edition
>Discord
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>IRC Channel
>implying anyone uses IRC
#MEG on Freenode
If you're on mobile look up AndroIRC for the app. Any questions, ask in the thread to get you set up.
Resources:
>Armyranger.com
For Ranger info, obviously.
>http://www.sealswcc.com/
SEAL/SWCC site with videos and fitness plans and a forum
>Shadowspear.com
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.
>Professionalsoldiers.com
For all Army SF info.
>http://www.corpsman.com
For Navy Corpsman info.
>http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?115180-MARSOC-Force-Recon
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.
>http://www.uscg.org
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.
>www.defencejobs.gov.au/
For info on the Australian Defense Force, and how you can shitpost on the world stage.
>https://www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS as well
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Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
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Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
http://strawpoll.me/6764857
Ask questions, get advice from retards on how to lie on the poly, bitch about recruiters, accuse each other of stolen valor, just keep it in this general.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH0W7-2f0o8
That's me you faggots
>>30456235
how do you not peak the mic on the camera?
>>30456235
You already posted it, faggot
>>30456249
I have no idea, it was an iPhone. Minigun is loud as fuck.
>>30456251
I'll post it all I want, you little bitch.
>>30456155
Thread off to a salty start
>>30456704
The heaviest thing they will ever carry is First Sergeant's load
>>30457061
thats pretty homoerotic
http://www.strawpoll.me/10633962
http://www.strawpoll.me/10633975
>>30457061
Quick question. Thinking about joining the muhreens. When 3 DI's are yelling at you at the same time, which ones instructions do you do?
>>30458304
Also, who do the medals / whatever they are above the left breast pocket mean?
Gonna join the Navy soon, toss up between Corpsman and a seabees rate, any advice?
>>30457061
>>30458304
Just stand at the position of attention or do pushups. Nothing else matters. Probably you should get in the front leaning rest position and do pushups.
>>30458321
Every medal means something different.
>>30458304
Yeah man just do push ups, unless all three are yelling the same thing then do that and push ups.
>>30458321
Those are ribbons.
>>30458304
Follow the last issued order. I don't remember a ton about (army) basic, but its such a small non-important part of your military career. Don't be the best or worst at anything since it wont matter anyways.
>>30459774
What do they mean / stand for?
>>30459827
Top left is achievement award, next is good conduct, next is expeditionary award, bottom left good conduct reserves?, next not to sure about, final one looks like a sea service ribbon
>>30459827
I could probably tell you if they didn't take the picture with a potato cam.
>>30456155
I am interested in the Army 25b (Information Technology Specialist). What ASVAB score do I need to be eligible for it. Also is the Army more promising to give me the MOS I want vs the Airforce? Army would work better since there are no Airforce recruiters near me.
>>30456155
I'll be in college in a few weeks, and I'm joining the army ROTC. I pretty much don't know shit from dick about the miltary, but I'm willing and ready to learn. What do I have to look forward to as a 2nd lieutenant?
>>30460170
No idea on an exact score for that, but I would imagine a category 1 for sure. Hell, I got a cat 1 and ended up 12b.
>>30458321
>>30458577
>>30459774
>>30459827
>>30459827
From left to right, top to bottom(these things are placed in order of precedence)
Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medal, Navy Reserve Meritorious Service Medal, National Defense Service Medal, Global War on Terror-Expeditionary Service Medal, Global War on Terrorism Medal, Sea Service Deployment Ribbon.
>analyzing ribbon rack
>welfare rate detected
The stars is how many additional times they've received the award
Seriously, 3 NAMs, 2 Reserve medals, 1 deployment ribbon, and 0 weapon Qual ribbons. This dude has to be in Supply, probably got all those NAMs for keeping vending machines stocked.
>>30460277
>sweaty armpits
Guaranteed fat body too, he probably bitches about the fitness standards and how you have to spend a tour in Auschwitz to meet them
>>30458304
You just keep yelling, "Aye Aye Sir!" at top of your lungs.
Pro tip: DI's go into duty hut and chuckle about it after. It's like a joke to them.
>>30458304
Listen to the highest ranked one, if they're the same rank then do the last order given to you.
>>30460170
What matter are your line scores
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjobs/a/asvab.-uMS.htm
25B requires 95+ in Skilled Technical
I wouldn't dream too much on a particular MOS, though. It all depends on the demand. Just don't pick something that you'll hate, even if it has a hefty bonus (hello tax). Study for the ASVAB to ace it and focus on your weakest areas
What will I be doing as a 19K after AIT?
>>30460785
Be a 19k.
Be a 1a8x1 or 1n3x1
Monterey is beautiful
Am 12b want to do more with my life. I have a high enough gt score to go to q course. Have little clue what Q course is like. Anyone have any hints? Also pt score 80 pushups 100pts 90 sit-ups 100pts and 14 2 mile (I know I suck at running)
How can I get gainz in 5 days but also lose some waist fat and not starve myself
Is it possible to actually fail the physical test? I'm shit at running
>>30461093
Build a time machine.
>>30461235
Yes. You need to meet the entry standards, which are pretty low, to head to basic.
>>30461272
I mean the army physical where you run , pushups, crunches
>>30461093
Underage b& or bait.
>>30461294
I have 5 days anon.
>>30461292
Yes you fucking idiot bitch.
>Test
Can you fail?
>Test
Test
E
S
T
Tell me what the purpose of a test is? God I know you're under 18 but I want to kill you and skull fuck your mother.
>>30461325
Why don't you just 1v1 me mosins only
>>30461088
Gotta get through Selection before the Q course
Do I have to meet the height/weight requirement to enlist, or to pass basic? If I'm overweight, can I enlist now and make leave it to basic to slim me up? I'm doing good about getting in shape, but I...I can't do retail anymore. I need to enlist and get to the next stage of my life, NOW.
>>30461450
To enlist
>>30461450
>>30461466
Forgot to add that there is an enlistment requirement and a different one once you're actually in
>>30461466
Fucking god damn it. I can't handle retail anymore /k/omrade. Everytime a customer opens their mouth I want to just walk out.
>>30461466
Fucking god damn it...I can't handle retail anymore /k/omrade. Every god damn time a customer opens his mouth I just want to walk out. I'd kill someone for a hyperbolic time chamber so I could get in shape and enlist tomorrow.
>>30461483
>>30461524
Alright, real talk, I'm a little drunk, and the first post took like 5 minutes to appear on my screen, so I started to question whether or not I actually posted it, so I posted the second because I figured I didn't.
>>30461535
How fat are you?
>>30461524
Go talk to a recruiter and get the process started at least
>>30461596
Weighed myself today at 206. need to get to at least 185 for the standard. I was a bit over 220 when I decided to enlist, so I've made a fair bit of progress, I'm just getting impatient.
>>30460349
This.
Pretty much one of them is trying to get you to say "aye sir" as much as possible, one is just making noise, and the other one is asking questions / telling you to fuck around with he weapon.
Ask a westpoint firstie anything
>>30461292
The APFT once you're actually in is very important. If you fail two of those in a row, the Army will most likely boot you out on your ass. That shit is real.
>>30461481
>>30461466
>>30461450
You need to pass the initial entry physical fitness test. I forget the standards, but it's some absurdly low amount of pushups, situps, and a run. BCT will do the rest about your weight issue.
>>30460170
>>30460583
25B is always in demand.
For an IT job I'd recommend going Air Force over Army. There's absolutely no reason to go Army/Marines over Air Force and Navy unless its a job unique to the former (combat MOS's).
In the Air Force your living standards are lightyears better, rooms are larger and every single one I've been is is massive and has a full kitchen/bathroom/washer and dryer. Dining facility is always better. Better opportunities for civvy certs and schooling. Dodge the random Army hooah life.
I could go on forever.
>>30460785
Never shoot in tanks but once a year because of range/ammo costs. Motorpool errday. And never do much because tanks aren't deployed anywhere and are never used but for route clearance even if they do.
>>30461617
You'll get tape tested at MEPS, but you'll be fine.
Lose fat and gain muscle. Work your traps a ton to help enlargen your neck for a better tape test.
>>30460785
That's a completely useless MOS and you'll just work in S3 doing details since you're a surplus soldier with no real job
>>30456155
Thoughts on going 35P Cryptological Linguist in the National Guard?
>just took ASVAB today down in LA
>got a really good score
>still want to go infantry
Am I just retarded? Muhreens btw
In the process if joining the Chair Force. I am five pounds too light so I've got fifteen days to get them on then I go off to MEPS and get my physical and shit. I'm a fucking skeleton I know. My question is in regards to college debts, would they be a problem for me enlisting? I just got word of them so I haven't told my recruiter about it yet.
>>30462669
No, you have a few smart people who join the infantry all the time. It's one of the top pics for cadets because it's easier to get promoted.
Right now though it's kinda dumb to join the infantry because of the military cutbacks and not having a big war currently but it will probably heat up in a few years
>>30462678
Try to defer them
>>30462669
No. Smart grunt = SF. Go in, run a lot and do a bunch of pullups, then put in a package for Recon or Marsoc.
>>30462725
kek I hope people don't fall for this
>>30462669
Joined Marines with a 96 asvab and 124 GT in 2006. I went Infantry.
I was guaranteed to deploy then though. No regrets. Iraq/Afghanistan deployments, got some action. So no, your desire is understandable.
However, circumstances are different. You might just train or go on a MEU or two. But if you like hiking, running, discipline, training etc.
I graduate next semester on GI Bill, you don't need to go pog for muh job skills. That said, some do get good skills and make more than I do. YOLO buddy.
>>30462707
Thanks, will it disqualify me from anything? If you know by chance.
>>30462697
Easier to get promoted? I've read from multiple sources that cutting scores are absurd in 0300 jobs, am I just misinformed?
>>30462725
kek the recruiter actually mentioned something about MARSOC on the way back
>>30462751
Well that's not bad, I'm in a similar position (got a 99, though I know I missed quite a few questions so how I got that makes no sense) but sounds like it's still got what I want.
Also I'm 20 and yet compared to all the other guys at the recruiting station I feel like a fucking old man
>>30462780
Oh I didn't see the part where you said Marine I was just going off of how it is in the Army.
The points to get e5 in the Army for infantry is always low as fuck because a lot get out fast since they only have 3 year initial contracts or they just get killed and open up slots for younger soldiers to take them. I guess it's probably different in the marines since pretty much everyone joins to be infantry because it's dumb to join the marines for any other reason
>>30462758
No, I had college loans when I joined and nothing happened since mine were deferred. If they're collecting them and you aren't paying that's where you can get fucked though
>>30462780
Im 2006 guy. I was 22 when I joined. You need to get that shit out your head. I'm 29 now, you're still a young buck.
You'll get called grandpa in boot camp and take orders from guys a few years younger in the fleet. If you go infantry better grow thick skin.
>>30462830
Oh it's not a problem believe me, I just thought it was funny how being around the other guys I felt old, yet as you (correctly) pointed out I'm still very young and inexperienced compared to the majority of people. I already know age doesn't mean shit in the military, I've got no qualms at all about answering to authorities younger than me.
>>30462751
>tfw wanna go infantry
>tfw not too worried about combat against sand people
>what I am worried about
Scenario 1: fight sand people, get flashbacks. (The possible PTSD and flashbacks scare me more than the actual combat.)
Scenario 2: ww3 happens and we fight a real army and I get kill.
>>30463111
The military is barely fighting anyone right now other than small detachments and SF units
WW3 isn't close to happening right now
>>30456155
I saw that hike....
>>30462669
I'm on the same boat.
>got 86 on asvab
>want to go into infantry
I'm probably fucking retarded
>>30463111
tfw retard 18 year olds want to go kill sand niggers
Life is mysterious
How hard is it to get into Combat Engineer, 12B (or 21B, whatever the fuck they call it now)? What ASVAB score do I need?
I heard you need a 87, but I saw some guy that got a 36 and still got the option to go 12B, but that was some years ago.
>>30463564
You need an 87 in the combat score for the ASVAB, they get that by combining two categories of the test.
That's low as fuck requirements that even semi retarded people can achieve, the guy you're talking about got a 36 overall score which is different than the combat score
>>30463577
Oh, neat. I took a practice ASVAB and got a 81% total, so I should be good right?
>>30463586
Yeah man, combat anything are the easiest jobs to get into and barely require any effort on the ASVAB. Score as high as you can though just in-case you hate working with retards and want to reclass later down the line
Can you get into infantry/combat roles with a GED?
Joined Army, 91B, reserves; tell me how bad I fucked up
>>30463772
Sweet mother of kek, have fun never seeing anything but the motor pool for your duty
>>30463806
Eh I don't mind when I was on high school all I did was turn wrenches in my Autoshop class
Pic related is how I feel
>>30463832
I mean, the only way you could've made it worse is Muhreen reserves, then you'd have even less to work with
>>30460170
You get a choice in the Army
Air Force will treat you good with the bitch job they give you, though.
How's non-Navy EOD looking right now?
I didn't fuck up, did I?
>>30462090
>Boot you out on your ass
Read: Separate you with full bennies. APFT failure is a fairly gentle way to get out.
>>30462751
>Has to go get job skills after service because he learned none
>Claims you don't need to go pog to get job skills
Yup, sounds like infantrylogic.
>>30464229
>pog
Are we still using that term?
It's called pogue since the Korean fucking war.
>>30463111
>wants to join army
>as infantry nonetheless
>afraid of having to fight a "real army" and dying
Don't join then or at least don't go infantry you spineless coward.
>>30462669
Na bro, I feel much the same way.
I'm a smart dude, taken all of the math courses at the community college, physics whiz, I'm majoring in engineering and about to transfer, but I really want to do something high-speed in the military right now, while I still can.
It's one of those things you don't want to look back at and regret not doing.
Being out in the field...
I told myself, If I can get a sub 6 minute mile... I'm gonna drop out and pursue that experience, hopefully in SF.
Whats the cut-off age for joining a military? Did I fuck up for not going right after school?
>>30464982
Depends on the branch.
It's usually like 27-32.
To the Anon who is a 68W,
I'm going to talk to a recruiter soon and I've read up on becoming a 68W-W1/SOCM. I was told to get 68W in my contract then ask for an Option 40 to get a reservation for Airborne/RASP. Is that what I have to do? Alternatively, I read that I could also get an Option 4 and either fill out a form in AIT for RASP or volunteer during Airborne School. I also meet the Ranger physical requirements, if not exceed them.
>>30464982
you can get a waiver, seen some ancient e-4s
>>30460785
Be put in a turret for route clearance
what do they look at for a ts clearance
Again, asking how 3E8X1/89D/5309 is looking at the moment.
Anyone ARNG here? Is it effectively the same as the Army Reserves in terms of stuff to do and quality of life?
>>30465077
Depends on what they think you warrant.
Are you a normal guy with an English name living in bumfuck nowhere with a clean record and family who're all clean? No debt? Probably just medical history, school records and contacting all your references.
Foreign name? Family has a criminal record? Anybody from your family immigrated within the last few generations? Got anything that looks fishy? Get ready to have a talk with someone where they grill your ass, go back and use that info to look you up, then grill you more until they're satisfied.
>>30465101
what about med history
>>30465143
Did you lie about a major disorder, operation or continuing liability?
>>30465070
>>30462603
>>30462466
I understand but actually war Is on the horizon so everyone that is enlisting hear this. By next year there will be another war. I chose 19k because yeah I love tanks but also because they will be very important once again soon. Prepare for war. Choose your mos wisely
>>30465176
Then you're fine.
so someone explain the Army rank system to me
you start out as a fuzzy, no rank at all
now how do you rank up from there?
>>30465224
>I understand but actually war Is on the horizon so everyone that is enlisting hear this. By next year there will be another war. I chose 19k because yeah I love tanks but also because they will be very important once again soon. Prepare for war. Choose your mos wisely
If Hillary gets elected, sure
But Trump is by far the most anti-war candidate there is
>>30465406
hey man i love trump as much as the next guy but theres just no way he can win. who ever is REALLY in control wont allow it
Got a 96 on the asvab with a gt of 130, perfectly clean legal and medical records (i.e. none) reasonably fit, and none of my family has ever had legal issues. i wanted infantry, but knowing now about the options of 18x or 11b op40 i want to pursue one of those two. personally, i think id like to give SF a shot. Recruiter has an available contract for me. If i take it, and make it into SF selection, what kind of testing do they do? will they really give you a polygraph lie test? if so what questons would they ask? And for someone who wants to be a real operator would 18x be better than 11b op40?
>>30465378
Are you asking by what criteria are people promoted? Just google the cutoff scores for the Army. If it's anything like the Marines it's based on time in service, time in your current rank, PT scores, and some other stuff. In the Army it's very possible to make E4 or even E5 within your 4 years
>>30465378
You get a low rank based on contract length once you finish training.
Then you go up the "responsibility-less faggot" tree just by serving and not being a royal fuckup until you hit E-4. If you want to go above that, you'll need training you can sign up for.
>>30465487
Just go cavalry scout, nigger.
Better than 11b in every way.
>>30465378
E1 - E4 is automatic as long as you don't fuck up, you get E4 in about two years.
To get to E5 you have to take a dumb online training course, go to an easy vacation class from your job for a month, then stand in front of your sergeant major and lie about your goals and why you want to be promoted. Then once you get enough points through PT, weapons, awards, and education you can get promoted.
E6 it's the same shit pretty much but a little harder.
E7 - E9 you make up a packet to make yourself look good then the pentagon picks randomly on who to promote
>>30465793
This guy knows what he's talking about. I got E6 after 4 just for reenlisting and being Victor qualified.
>>30463111
You're a coward and have no place in the military
>>30465793
An online class? I got out in 2008 and didn't have that shit then. Unless you mean correspondence courses for points?
I fuckin hated PLDC, bunch of pogues trying to act hard
I'm 22 and I have a college degree (history, lel). I want to join the Army and go for a career, 20+ years. Does anyone have any advice for this goal? Officer or Enlisted? Recommended MOS'? I'd prefer something in Intelligence.
>>30465925
I'm glad you are asking. Officer life is cushy but if you really want the military experience, you should go enlisted. You can pick up E4 with a degree. Go all the way. Be Airborne Infantry. Ranger, if you're up to it. I did it. I have a coin and a brick at the NRMF. Yeah, big deal but it was pretty cool. I even got a CIB and got shot at and returned fire.
>>30465919
Nah, it's something called SSD1. It's some stupid bullshit class that ask you basic stuff that you should remember from basic and general army history that's mandatory to make 5.
Then they have SSD2, 3, and 4 after that
>>30465730
6 months is typical. But as long as you're not a dipshit to your recruiter I've heard of poolees getting their recruiter to bump up their ship date several months early.
>>30465991
That sounds like what they would quiz us on at the board
>>30465985
>>30466010
Most of the board questions are from SSD1 so you aren't wrong
>>30466025
First time I went to the promo board they grilled me for not having a tab yet.
>CSM: Why don't you have a tab yet?
>Me: Some bullshit excuse
>CSM: When are you getting a tab?
>Me: Another bullshit excuse
>CSM: Ranger School when?
>Me: Running out of excuses by now
>CSM: Don't you want to be a Ranger?
>Me: As soon as my packet is approved
>CSM: Good.
That was my first promo board
How many days, weeks, or months does it usually take to get sent to take the ASVAB after telling the recruiter you want to take it? I want to tell a recruiter I want to take the ASVAB on the 15th of this month but I'll be out of state for 2 weeks in August 3rd. I'm trying to figure out if I should wait until I come back to start the enlistment process.
>>30466502
Depends, why not just ask your recruiter?
>>30466545
..that's a question I cannot answer.. that seems to be the most obvious choice
two part question.
I was diagnosed with cyanosis (low oxygen in the blood) will i be able to get into any branch?
My recruiter (coast) says that shouldnt be a problem because she can't find anything on it anywhere, but will meps give me a automatic no?
Second question; Are there any PMCs that will train or hire, in the same way that the military does or do they all hire only people with experience? (presumably experience from the military)
>>30466091
Lame. Ranger school is just a school. You are not a ranger if you graduate ranger school. As an Infantry NCO, you should have out your CSM in the elevated front leaning rest position.
>>30466741
Not sure on the first one, I'm sure Google will help you out there.
Second one, I highly doubt it. The market is so full of combat veterans and SOF veterans I think it'd be pretty unlikely for a normal civilian to get a good gig with them
>>30466782
I could never understand the raging hard on the higher ups in infantry units would get for someone that has a tab
>>30466502
Depends on whether or not you need some additional information or doctors stuff along those lines.
I took me around three or four days (cannot remember exactly).
>first day went to talked to the recruiter.
>second day filled out the paperwork.
>third or fourth day went up to MEPS.
It might take longer or shorter for you.
>>30466741
sounds like you should go work in subs
>>30462669
I got an 85 but I'm going Infantry in the Army.
Some people just want a little more excitement in their lives.
>>30466937
>peacetime infantry
>excitement
Anon..
>>30467229
The way this election is going, shit's going down in the ME soon
>>30466823
It's just a fraternity.
>>30467229
Let people join in the delusion that they will get to kill ISIS in Syria when they're really just going to be spending 3 years cleaning the company area or 9 months cleaning FOBs in Kuwait
>>30467546
Why is that bad? You still get out with a GI Bill right plus a bank account full of money if you arent stupid.
Is there any advice for the rappel tower?
I'm terrified of heights.
>>30467772
In basic? Shits easy, I barely remember it cause it's done so quickly
Which branch is the best for going into Intel?
>>30467818
What about victory tower?
How is rappelling done?
>>30467877
I just remember climbing up the tower and walking over/through some random shit and the DS gets you all set up to rappel down
>>30467877
My advice, don't be a fucking pussy and listen to the Drill Sgt word for word. It's not hard to rappel and it's fun as fuck. Don't grip the rope with the top hand, only use the bottom hand which controls your movement. Jump fucking hard, let the bottom hand loose, grip again after a sec or two of falling, and rinse and repeat.
Hard to fucking explain just do it.
>>30467853
Navy
>>30467877
They train you dude, they dont just put you on a rope and say good luck.
>>30467877
Honestly, the cargo net on victory tower is worse than the rappel is you're scared of heights.
Just wake up that morning knowing it's going to be a shitty day, but it'll be over before noon and you can go on with your life. A lot of the military is like that.
>>30456155
how 2 SF?
>>30468474
Go Air Force and you can be guaranteed SF.
>>30468474
Get /fit/ and not be as autistic as your research skills
I know I don't have the right to say anything but why do so many people in the modern military have PTSD? Should you rally be trained to kill if you can't handle it?
Fighting uniformed Krauts on an established front is a little different from watching someone you thought was a civilian blow himself up out of the blue and wreck a humvee with your friend inside
>>30468658
>but why do so many people in the modern military have PTSD?
Because we actually diagnose it now instead of sweeping it under the rug
>>30467772
Don't be a faggot pussy, rappelling is the most fun part of basic
Keep you brake hand at the small of your back, don't open it up, and look over your shoulder when you go down
I'm joining the Navy as AECF and praying I get ET. But i have a question; will I be able to get deployed over in the middle East and shoot people? ETs work on comms and shit.
>>30468764
>humvee
Half right, face
HMMWV
>>30468658
Why do such signs make me wanting to go and plan an orchestrated assault with high capacity firecracker bandoleers and large caliber firework mortars?
>>30468658
Fuck those signs. I light off fireworks so I can pretend I'm back in combat
>>30469278
I spent a year in the 82nd. got 20 jumps. Nothing special. When I entered the 75th Ranger Regiment, I got my first helo jump and my first helo rapel. The jump was a six second count instead of a four second. The rapel was nervously stirring. But afterwards, rappelling out of a helicopter became usual and natural. We did it a lot, along with fast roping.
I never fast roped or rappelled in combat but I did parachute into combat. I have an Arrowhead on my AFEM and a Bronze Star on my wings.
>>30470419
How do you spend a year in the 82nd and not get a helo jump
>>30470439
Don't know. All my jumps in the 82nd were from fixed winged aircraft.
>>30470262
If you go to BUD/S and become a SEAL, maybe, because after that it depends on what team selects you, and Team 3 is the one assigned to the Mid east
>>30458380
corpsman
>>30470489
That's shitty. Always wished I could of gotten a balloon jump, I knew some old timers that had them.
Guess my exotic jump was from an AN-2 Colt
>>30466741
>Will PMCs train you
Literally never happens for anything but administrative jobs. Too many retirees who want those jobs.
>>30467853
Air Force
Literally all they do, you're guaranteed a job in it and your living standard is higher than the other branches'.
>>30470546
Balloon jumps were for those special snowflakes who went to French Commando school.
>>30465026
Get an op4, chill as Airborne while studying medical shit for a year at most, then try op40. You'll be more prepared and can also train your body for the rigorous Ranger activities.
>>30470597
Are you contesting that fact?
Because it's a fact.
>>30470617
Alright, explain.
>>30470617
Cav scouts are fucking remfs compared to Infantry. Are you smoking dope?
Cav scouts vs regular leg infantry fighting is like watching an obese kid argue with a midget over who's more athletic
Which branch's personnel are the least impressive?
Which branch's personnel are of the lowest quality, on par with the average DMV employee or service industry worker?
11B here. Cav scouts get to do some cool shit too, but I prefer the infantry
>>30470754
Why is the AF guy brown and the Army white?
Why is the Navy guy not a filipino?
>>30470785
Of course. You get to go places and do shit. I wouldn't trade my life in the Infantry for a bazillion pesos.
>>30470754
ive never met coast guard but i am constantly surrounded by my fellow airmen and also marines soldiers and sailors all day every day at tech school.
So far from my 3 months here around them I would say army seem to be the lowest quality just because they accept just about anyone. no hate though.
>>30471053
Jesus Christ, dude. Do you even have a basic fucking education? You sound like a drooling moron.
>>30470856
And why is the Air Force guy a normal weight?
>>30471108
You know he's guard, right?
>>30471091
Army's in defense mode.
>>30458380
Corpsman, but keep in mind all you get is an EMT cert from it.
You also are most likely gonna work in a hospital.
I'm an army LPN and work with bunch of corpsmen. We use then like super CNA's here. That is, they mostly move patients around, wipe butts, hang saline, and get vital signs. After a while they all get sick of it. It's hard work and the nurses constantly will order you around. Not necessarily in a mean way.
With training, hospital corpsmen can do a little more. Some can sit on telemetry, and a few can pass meds. I don't let them pass meds on my patients ofc, because they have no idea what half of them are for. Some move on to leadership positions in more admin type rolls.
>>30465026
Very hard for wiskeys to get past e-4. Crowded MOS.
Anybody with asthma care to share how they did in whatever the hell branch they're in?
I've got a pair of shit lungs but I'm still thinking about enlisting.
>>30471227
otoh they can go to almost any unit
Realistically how is the army with regards to relationships? I'm in a LTR and live in an apartment with my girlfriend, i'd probably join if I were single. Britbong if that makes any difference.
>>30471235
Don't do it
Can you become a sniper in Marine RECON and/or MARSOC or do you HAVE to become a scout sniper in order to, well, be a sniper?
>>30471298
/k/ is not the right place to be asking about girls.
>>30471298
If you enlist the army out's you in a barracks. You can usually live off post while being sure to just keep the barracks room clean, but he army won't give you like extra money for the apartment. Keep in mind you make shit-nothing.
Most military jobs are typical 9-5 types. Maybe 5-4, I guess. I'm the nurse from before. We work the usual 12 hour shifts.
So if you have a car and if the GF lives close it's doable, ya. You might get deployed or something but what evs.
Th army pays you if you get married. They'll give you $1000 + a month just to buy a house or apartment or drugs with. So many soldiers just get married so they don't have to live on post.
>>30471661
Once he makes E4 and isn't a shitbag he could possibly get BAH to live off post
>>30471704
The Army doesn't do that for regular duty stations, even E5s who stay out of trouble and have been in for 10 years are forced in the barracks because anyone who's E6 and below and single have to stay there
>>30465224
Dude. Tanks were hardly used even during invasion and the surge. They take forever to get permission to go in, and when they do they don't do tank stuff. They blow up walls and IEDs for route clearance.
By the time they even get there the patrolling dudes have already said fuck it and went through with their own vehicles or not.
It isn't fluid like you think it is. If they aren't directly attached locally, theres always massive delays and miscommunication. Plus, most tankers deployed WITHOUT their tanks, like artillery dudes do.
Now yeah, if world war 3 broke out you may get to ride in a tank for a bit. But then indirect and other shit will blow you the fuck up.
>>30471732
I lived off post and got BAH as an E4 with some other buddies of mine. This was 2007 though, so maybe they're strict now
>>30471791
They are, the Army is cheap as shit now. The only way you're living off post at a regular duty station as an E5 and below is if you get divorced but you signed a lease for an apartment or a house but then you have to move back into the barracks as soon as it ends
>>30471817
I remember E6 types having to move into the barracks after getting DUIs or some junk. Talk about miserable dudes
>>30471704
Not the case anymore. Probably varies, but never heard of it unless the post happens to have no housing.
>>30471838
DUI is an automatic kick out now pretty much unless if you're a field grade with how much the army wants to downsize
Can I asked to be deployed to Korea or Afghanistan and have an actual chance of being sent there? I'm leaving in less than a month for 25c, and I figured I might do my job more if I'm actually deployed.
>>30472147
Asking doesn't do shit if the unit you go to after AIT isn't on a deployment cycle. 25c is becoming a useless MOS now that they just pull surplus soldiers to do your job so you're kinda fucked.
You will most likely just work in S6 and do what 25b's do
I'm enlisting in the Army soon, and plan on shooting for SF after serving a few years. If I get a contract to serve as a combat engineer, then when/if I get to SF training will that increase the chances they make me a SF Engineer Sergeant? Because I want to become a Weapons Sergeant. I'd be happy with either, just becoming SF would be fucking amazing, but if being a combat engineer until then will practically guarantee I won't become a SF Weapons Sergeant, I may get a contract for another MOS until then.
>>30472515
It depends on a few things:
1. Current need for the groups at that exact time.
2. Your scores, personality, etc. in testing.
3. Your preference list
4. Experience, job skills, etc.
You can definitely put 18B at the top and can get it. But as always theres no guarantee.
Any particular reason you want to do 12B? I can give some insight perhaps. I'm an 11B
>>30472608
I know there's no guarantee I'll get 18B, but I do want a shot. I just wanted to make sure by going combat engineer it'd be a virtual assurance I don't even get the chance at 18B.
I want a foot combat role, but didn't want to just be a standard infantryman. Wanted another skill set other than shooting and tactics. Combat engineer seemed cool, medic may be cool to, but I'd love to get that sapper tab.
>>30472608
>>30472648
I don't know, I may go 11B. The whole reason I'm enlisting is my love of guns and tactics and shit. Maybe I should stick with that.
>>30472648
Don't go medic if you want to be a shooter. 12B do a similar role, the reality though is that they don't have the same opportunities and almost never do a shooting role in events because a brigade spends more money on infantry.
For livefire events in an airborne brigade you will clear obstacles and do a small local support by fire. Then you watch the infantry go in and do the job.
I undeniably respect the sappers, but the reality is unless WW3 breaks out they'll be getting the shit end of the stick in training.
Tell me what you want to do exactly and I'll see what insight I have. Signing your soul away to the Army isn't a time to be modest.
>>30472948
Similar role to 11B*
18D will be shooters. 68W in ranger batt get some shooting possibilities (very rare). So to reiterate. If you wanna shoot, don't do 68W.
Also you can waiver (fairly easily) for sapper school as infantry. Pretty much the only dudes who get it are 12 and 11 series.
>>30472976
From what I've heard, medics in Batt, while usually attached to the Plt Sgt's hip, get some kill time. Some ranger said he knew of a medic who had double digit kills.
But if you want to shoot, medic isn't for you. Your mission is aid and care. That should always be your first priority interest.
Guys I have a question.
My friend is stationed in Europe(Air Force).
He is here for the week and he was telling me how no one has visited him, not even his family, in the 2 years he's been there. He has no friends out there(His coworkers are assholes) and he is leaving there in a year.
I feel really fucking bad, so I['m gonna go visit him. Only problem is I'm a broke college student.
Is there any way he can get me a discount ticket at all? I hate being a fucking Jew, but I really am broke, and I will save up as much I can, but I want to leave within 3 months, so I need to get a flight fast.
>>30474159
Nice thumbnail, asshole
>>30474159
Visiting him at a military base in europe just sounds weird. Shouldn't he be able to scrape up some vacation himself? They get 30 days per year which is better than you get in the private sector. If he's been there for 2 years he has to have some vacation days by now.
Didn't get an answer from the last thread, so asking again:
I'm flirting with the idea of becoming an Air Force TACP.
Are there many opportunities for enlistment into a 1C4X1 role? What's the likelihood of actually getting a liaison position with the Army or some Special Ops? Am I misunderstanding anything?
Thanks in advance guys.
If I became a helicopter mechanic in the Army is it possible to be part of the air crew and actually fly on it or be a gunner?
>>30474314
Well, I also want to visit Germany and France and everything too.
I won't be at his base, probably at a hotel near it.
>>30474614
Army Aviation crewmen for rotary wing aircraft (helicopters) fall under the 15 category MOS's, so whatever Mechanic you become for whichever MOS specific helicopter is what you'll be a crew of, be in mind most of what new guys do is just repair the helo, Crew chiefs (which you can be promoted to) have responsibility as door gunner and the like.
>>30474417
It is becoming less popular. But still a good job. Be in great shape, hike a lot, know how to use weapons and radios. Many are retooling for natural disaster response now. Excellent for SpecOps or working with Army and other branches, more so than most AF jobs. Para rescue and combat control do as well.
>>30474886
Ah thanks, sounds good, since I do hike a lot and did a lot of pack expeditions back in the day.
>>30460178
Don't think about that yet. Think about the kind of bullshit you have to do for your school's ROTC.
>>30456155
Military now only exists so that trannies can get government subsidized mutilation and have access to a firearm to off themselves.
Because why have a mental health screening if you're just going to ignore mental health issues to make people feel good! Woo!
Seriously, this destroyed my desire to join the military. Fucking disgusting.
>>30456155
Canadafag. If Canada don't want me, will the States? Hear they don't take outsider freaks, but then I hear they do. Pretty sure they don't, but it's free to post, right? And y'all are pretty knowledgeable usually.
>>30475462
Gotta be in the country legally, and eligible for citizenship iirc. But as a Commonwealth citizen couldn't you apply for UK military? That'd be a sweet gig.
>>30475520
I should look into that actually, thanks. I am a dual citizen. But I think I have to live there a few years iirc
>>30475573
I know as a US Citizen eligible for Irish citizenship (Literally just have to submit my papers, instantly granted) I'm eligible for:
US Military (Transgender fagboy parade with all female infantry)
Irish Military (Other than the Ranger Air wing, literally why do they exist?)
And the UK Military, since I can apply for UK citizenship once I have my Irish citizenship and be auto-accepted if I move to NI
Such is life.
>>30475462
>If Canada don't want me
Do they teach English in Canadian schools?
Anyhow, I served with a couple of Canucks, a Mexican and some fellow from Great Britain. Airborne, Ranger and LRS. All Infantry roles.
Mexican in the 82nd. The two Canadians were in the 75th Ranger Regiment and the man from GB was in LRS. Funny. He always called our Platoon Leader "left tenant" instead of Lieutenant.
>>30475613
>>30475617
Fucking Eh. Thanks
>>30475236
>claims to know what military is like
>never even joined
Classic.
>>30456155
What rates in the navy are just good fun?
AW, HM and GM look like a good time
Don't really care about "skillz fer da reel werld" because GI bill/Apprenticeships exist
>>30467768
>a bank account full of money
>on a military salary
I don't believe you.
>>30476378
Sorry to break it to you, anon, but the military makes out pretty well money wise, and a lot more of your salary is available to save compared to civilians.
how do i become one of these guys and is it possible as greencard holder?
>>30476378
>no rent
>Discounted food and everything else at the PX
If you save even a quarter of your earnings you'll be pretty well off when you get out. If you're smart you'll save half. Plus the GI bill.
>21 soon to be 22
>5'10" 191lb
>currently attending local CC
Ive been to the local marine recruiters but never committed. But lately Ive been really thinking of my childhood dream of being a pilot. My local cc has aviation programs and japanese. How competitive is the pilot programs?
I just want to fly or be stationed in Japan. I dont know anywhere else chair force gets to be stationed.
Oh and my major is mech engineering, so i figure tech job is doable at the least job wise.
Admittidly I have also wanted a taste of action.
>>30460170
tfw chose 25u over 25b. If i could choose again it would be 25delta or bravo. Oh well.
>>30476863
Someone once said to me that if you have the urge to join the military at any point you will always have that urge and he was right. Joining now at 25, wish I would have joined earlier. Do it faggot.
Pilot programs are always competitive.
>>30476888
Thanks anon, Im currently at a point where I dont know what I want in life anymore. Besides making more money, and moving from this shit state.
>>30476863
You need to finish the degree and get a decent GPA
The acceptance rates for pilot programs are pretty good in Navy/USMC considering but you can also do ROTC since you're still in college.
>>30476378
I got out with 35,000 in my bank account and im not memeing. Only did 4 years.
>>30476438
>>30476666
These anons get it.
>>30474803
Ok so let's say I became a ch47 mechanic, I would not only work on the chopper obviously but also fly out on missions right?
>>30477283
How about you stop being a stand-beside and enter the real military? Go to Infantry and Airborne school.
>>30476483
which ranger is which?
Is being a navy gunner's mate fun?
>>30477341
Because im not a 13 year old edgy kid who thinks combat is like csgo and would like practical skills for the civilian world
>>30477494
Define fun. You stand an easy watch compared to most others and do maintenance and hump 5 inch shells. Its a pretty good rate over all though.
>>30476438
>>30476666
See, >>30477136 is what I'm talking about. 35'000 is not a lot at all, especially assuming US dollars.
>>30477777
>35'000 is not a lot at all
Wasted quints. Being a trust fund babby is better than joining the armed forces financially.
>>30477870
It's not exactly "a bank full of money", is it?
Trust fund babby is a bank full of money.
>>30477876
So in conclusion winning the lottery is better than joining the military. Thanks for the insight.
I think we're working on the assumption that you're working money together yourself from nothing here.
>>30477876
A net worth of >$50k when most of your peers at your age are well into the negatives with student loans makes you very well off.
Most people don't really have $35k in the bank until they're well into their 30s, especially if they have substantial loans.
>>30477530
Isn't it basically like being a gunsmith in the navy, but with a few other duties involved like cannon maintenance? Looks pretty cool. My concept of fun is taking things apart, cleaning them, and putting them back together.
>>30476483
bump.
Do Marine Corps Combat Engies get to see actual combat and get involved or is it like the Army version of sappers
