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How much would it cost to repair the scratches on this snakegun? I´m going to buy it either way, just asking about the repair-costs.
>>30454891
Not cheaply. You could use chemical blue of some kind and that might help a little, but it could also just ruin everything.
Just buy it, use it for a while, keep it oiled to prevent rust, and then consider re-bluing once it's really started to wear.
>>30454899
Shit dog, you'd best be getting a good deal on this motherfucker.
>>30454891
The gun is from 83 btw
>>30454920
Under 1000$
>>30454891
>>30454899
How is it even possible to scratch a gun like this?
I mean holy shit, you can't be this autistic!
>>30454914
This
Also Colt and other companiea do a rebluing service that would get it back to like new but it's ass expensive
>>30454940
Me and my gun club buddies were wondering the same thing
>>30454948
>>30454914
I wouldn´t do it myself, I´d look for a capable gunsmith to do it
>>30454966
Ask the owner if she is the mad antigun exwife of someone who wants to sell her husbands guns after almost destroying them
Eww
>>30455016
It´s a gunstore that sells it. The scratches are pretty bad, but they are fixable, so I´m fine with it. Like I said, the guy gave me a good price.
Pythons are still affordable here, but lately every single one that is sold on our gunbroker equivalent goes to to gun-shops or autistic americans (not even kidding, one guy bought like 5 Colt Revolvers in a week)
>>30454891
Ugh, won´t be cheap
>>30454891
you could send it in to Colt for a refinish, but expect it to cost ~$250 and it to be there ~4-6months.
I'd say just leave it, it adds character.
What made the marks anyway? Someone decided to slice it with a knife for that vietnam tigerstripe look?
>>30455093
Try getting a HK P7M8 on gunbroker now.... 1200+ for a used piece of shit. 5 years ago, they still had german police trade-ins LNiB for $650
>>30455733
I live in the caliphate of germanistan, so sending it to Colt could get kinda tricky.
Seriously don´t know what happened to the thing, I try asking the seller next time I talk to him.
>>30455798
>caliphate of germanistan,
then just leave it alone, dont get it redone, it simply just won't look right. If it bothers you that much, just fill it in with some black/navyblue guncrayon.
>>30454891
Use it as a bargaining point and try to buy the gun for really cheap. If that doesn't work, then walk away from the sale. Nothing wrong with the gun mechanically for having thin scratches in the finish. Personally, if I wanted a collector's piece, I wouldn't even consider that gun.
>>30455900
I´m getting it cheap and I already got the price down as well.
I intend to shoot it regulary so it isn´t really something I´m buy just for collecting.
From what everyone is saying those scratches should be fixable.
>>30455093
what country are you in?
>>30455959
>>30455984
nm just read above in germany
well if you can figure out how to get it reblued by colt, it would increase its value to over $2,500
>>30455998
I thought Colt was dead
>>30456006
no they do servicing still, and if you want to retain the value of the gun, the factory refinish is the only way to do it. go to some colt forums you will see pics, they still do a good job at refinishing. but they take forever. expect to wait at least 4 months or more
>>30456057
Thanks, I´ll check it out.
I know a guy who lives in Florida, so there might be a way.
>>30455959
>From what everyone is saying those scratches should be fixable.
They are "fixable," but your gun will never be the same as new. Your options are, basically:
1) Cold blue it with chemicals you can (probably) buy in a gun shop. The cold blue is cheap and easy, will only fill in the scratches, and does so with actual bluing - nothing gimmicky like paint or ink.
There are a number of problems with this sort of thing, though. If the metal wasn't prepped just perfectly, cold blue can rub off over time. If the scratches are at all deep into the metal, they will still be visible, just the same color as the other bluing, so it's not a perfect solution. Worst case scenario is that the cold blue stains the surrounding factory bluing, you have to use steel wool to get it out, and the end result looks worse than when you started. I'd only use cold blue for a less expensive firearm, and wouldn't even consider it with a collector's piece, or anything where the original finish is responsible for more than 1/3 of the gun's value.
2) Have a professional gunsmith refinish it. This involves stripping all of the bluing off the gun, and buffing all the surfaces so the scratches can no longer be seen. A lower tier gunsmith will fuck up this part BADLY. I've seen too many refinished Colts where all the polished surfaces are wavy, or the rollmarks are faint due to excess buffing. An improper refinish can destroy the value of a collectible firearm FAR worse than a few scratches like are on that gun. Plus, even if you can find a qualified gunsmith to do the work (keep in mind, that's not always easy or straightforward), it's not guaranteed that the color of the new bluing will be the same as the original bluing color.
tl;dr, That gun will never be as good as new again.
>>30454914
>You could use chemical blue of some kind and that might help a little
>>>>30454966
>>I wouldn´t do it myself, I´d look for a capable gunsmith to do it
THIS
do NOT attempt to do it yourself, I tried on my taurus revolver to reblue it, ended horribly, wound up having to have the whole thing cerakoted
>>30456110
ignore this idiot OP
>>30455998
>>30456057
Believe it or not, but even Colt can't guarantee that one of their refinishes won't fade the rollmarks or be a slightly different color bluing from a gun from a bygone era, when they used different chemicals to blue their guns. Granted, Colt definitely won't add any waviness to the polished surfaces or make beginner's mistakes like that, but the gun probably won't look exactly as good as new.
>>30456158
Not an argument.
>>30456162
you might be surprised. but yes it will maybe never have its original value realized but you will still come damn close and there is enough python fever and retarded hipsters with money to spend that it really doesnt matter
>>30456175
literally everything that guy said was retarded so if OP does the opposite he'll be fine
>>30456191
You referred to Colt Forum. Go there and look at some of the pictures yourself. The fact that they can't guarantee against rollmark fade is reason enough to be hesitant to refinish your gun.
>>30456201
Give an example and a rebuttal or fuck off.
>>30456214
yeah and cold bluing with your shitty 10 dollar birchwood casey is hands down the best alternative
you fuck off idiot
sharpie
>>30456158
He's right though.
You have to decide if you can live with scratches op, anything else you do will just make it worse/lose value heirloom status.
>>30456227
When did I say that cold bluing "with your shitty 10 dollar birchood casey" was ever "hands down the best alternative"?
Try again without the shitty strawman.
OP if you spend just 1 minute on google you will see that a factory refinish is imperceptible all but a few, and retards like this guy >>30456242
shilling for you to cold blue either are legit morons, or just trying to put you down because theyre jelly of your magnificent score.
http://www.colt.com/Customer-Services/Repair-Refinish/Firearm-Refinishing
https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=133440
https://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=500367
http://www.smithandwessonforums.com/forum/revolver-forum/12143-refinish-my-1973-python.html
http://smith-wessonforum.com/firearms-knives-other-brands/317178-thinking-about-sending-my-python-colt-refinish.html
tl;dr:
a factory colt refinish will bring your gun back up to almost the value of an original in the same condition
the retard route of self cold blue or 3rd party refinish wont get you anywhere close.
I agree with everyone in this thread that suggests you do a factory Colt refinish.
It might be a pain in the ass for you, but you're already getting such a good deal on the Python that spending a little extra dosh to get a legitimate refinish shouldn't even be a question.
>>30456372
it's literally spending a little extra money to make a lot more, only an idiot wouldn't do that
>>30456330
>like this guy >>30456242shilling for you to cold blue
Are you FUCKING BLIND? I wrote one sentence that acknowledged the pros, and a whole fucking paragraph discussing the cons, of cold blue. At the end of the post, I clearly said that it's not a legitimate fix.
>a factory colt refinish will bring your gun back up to almost the value of an original in the same condition
Not the original value - just *close to* the original appearance. Talk to any collector. Once you strip the original finish off a Colt, you destroy a huge proportion of its value, even a "factory" refinish. But if that's a good enough compromise for you, then that's your choice.
>>30456330
>>30456372
Thanks, I think I will send it in as soon as I got the required dosh and have figured out how to send it from europe.
>>30456389
Only an idiot would believe that he could profit by paying $400-500 to refinish a gun.
>>30456413
He's already paying under $1000 for it. He could probably re-sell it as is for more than that. I don't doubt that he could profit by refinishing it.
>>30456446
I seriously doubt it.
>>30456460
well youre wrong. factory refinished pythons regularly sell for 2500+
>>30456413
>>30456396
>>30456446
>>30456460
I´m not buying the thing to resell it. Not in the next few decades at least. I want to shoot it don´t have people asking what the hell I did to that gun every time I take it out to the range.
>>30456471
if you are just going to shoot it regularly then i take back my advice. refinishing it would be a waste
>>30454920
Its a python, no way its a good deal.
>>30456471
>>30456479
if you get a factory refinish, leave it alone and dont shoot it, and hold onto it as an investment to sell down the line, or sell it now for a quick profit
if you just want a shooter python, there is no point in paying for a factory refinish that you will fuck up at some point down the line anyway
>>30456006
They pretty much only make ARs and 1911s now
Why is the Python worth so much?
>>30456522
hipsters
>>30456479
>>30456413
>>30456460
>>30456499
No offense, but do you guys actually use your Pythons? Or do just store it in the back of your safe and take it out to jerk off to it or play Rick Grimes with your mum dressed as Carl?
>>30456522
Mostly in america it seems, like I said, they are still affordable on germany. They´ve been getting a lot more expensive lately though
>>30456534
i dont "use" mine, its just for investment. maybe put a couple cylinders of 38spc through it a year
>>30454940
Gun has probably been around for 40 years. If it was actually used, scratches and wear is to be expected. Now that one on the left seems like a gouge, which I have no clue how the fuck that happened. Dropped it on a metal file?
>>30456467
In Germany?
>>30456627
I could probably make up some story about the gun being used by a hunter to save his own life when a hog attacked him and scratched up his trusty revolver.
>>30456573
>I have a rare gun
>but I only have it so other people can't shoot it
>>30456573
>>30456673
got it for $700 8 years ago, and its tripled in value and still going up every year. performs better than my retirement plan's mutual funds
>>30454891
They really bother you that much?
>>30456512
And SAAs, right?
Because that would be a gun I´d like to have as well at some point.
