Broke my gun dryfiring it. Fucking trigger return spring snapped. Again, except this time the guns out of warranty and ive got to pay to replace it. Shits only got a roughly 7k roundcount yet parts keeps wearing out like the recoil spring and extractor. Nato spec my ass.
Surprisingly the slidestop hasnt shit itself yet even though its supposed to go first.
Bitching about guns thread go.
Shit isn't indestructable, yo. Deal with it.
>>30430080
>CZ
>>30430080
I enjoy that people keep falling for the "NATO testing" meme when the website that people always like to link clearly says that the P-01 testing was for the Czech police and had nothing to do with the NSN it received.
>>30430080
Post pics of excessive wear or you're just memeing
>>30430179
do you not see the trigger stuck in the rearward position even though the hammer is down?
>>30430194
I'm not asking about your broken trigger return spring, post excessive internal wear
or is it all small parts breakage?
>>30430202
Its basically all springs wearing out prematurely. and the extractor though thats been replaced.
anyone know if czcustom or cajun gunworks is better for replacement parts both have their own improved version of the trs. im not going to get a stock cz part again cause ive broken two now.
>>30430134
CZ springs and small parts die like no other. There's a reason why USPSA CZ shooters usually show up with 2 guns.
>mfw when bought new sp01 just four days ago
havent shot it yet though
is >>30430080 something i should expect to happen to mine?
>>30430080
This is annoying. I've never heard of the TRS breaking on other guns. Dry firing shouldn't make any difference to it. CZ must be screwing up with the heat-treating or something.
Have a look at this from czcustom.com. The description suggests that it's a better spring.
>mfw i live in california
>>30430080
If Wolff (gunsprings.com) made TRS I'd recommend that (they make other springs for the CZ, though--check them out since they're among the best, I've used them to restore/improve several guns).
>>30430386
yeah i saw that trying to decide between it and cajungunworks version. cgw supposedly drops the trigger weight half a pound.
>>30430234
Check wolff springs for the parts you need there shits supposed to be better then stock
>>30430415
7 bucks, buy both man. Put in the reduced weight spring and you might fall in love with it and just in case it takes a shit you have a back up which is actually always a good ideas if it's going to be your go to gat
>>30430080
>>30430179
>>30430194
gonna have to agree with the other anon
post pics of wear or CZ confirmed overhyped ass.
>>30430549
shipping the same price as the spring.
this isnt my go to gat after the first parts breakages said fuck it bought a glock. this things a range toy. a very fun range toy. if another gun failed me as much as this one has id have sold it off but its enjoyable to shoot.
>>30430571
it was only a few days ago that an anon posted pics of his alleged cz 75 saying that the finishing just suddenly started to wear out severely when what actually happened is he copy pasted a pic of some one on reddit who applied some sort of car cleaning liquid that completely ruined the finish on the gun, dont remember exactly
>>30430571
how the fuck am i supposed to prove wear when my cameras a potato and its all springs? if you dont believe me whatever think what you want. its a one gun sample size.
>>30430080
>>30430571
>>30430607
>Buying a gun from a eastern European country, that most people cant even spell
>expecting it to hold up
Play stupid games win stupid prizes
>>30430080
>Buying the fedora of handguns
lel
>dry firing a Czech gun
>>30430672
ive literally seen more examples of anons saying cz guns suck without proof and anons lying to make them appear that way than cz guns actually failing so far
>>30430080
>the guns out of warranty and ive got to pay to replace it.
You don't have to replace the whole gun. A trigger return spring is only a few dollars and you can replace it yourself.
>>30430725
yes but the first time it happened cz covered it for free in a timely manner. im out 27 bucks on this. 7 spring,13 trigger pin since you cant reuse the old staked one 7 shipping.
>>30430386
>we have tested [spring] to over 20,000 dry fires without breakages
Holy shit... I've never seen an aftermarket for bits to put in a gun to stop dry firing it breaking
>>30430714
>no proof
you havent actually held a CZ have you?
also if this thread isnt proof enough, the gun fucking broke by nothing else but dry-firing
60 kabillion rounds my ass, the gun is brand new and a vital part broke from dry fire
if that on top of the finish issues, burr marks, low quality parts that break, and the fact the service life on the damn things is lower than the barrel life, isnt enough to convince you then youre probably one of those people that would buy a hi point just to spite all of the well-deserved advice of people telling you not to just because they dont have "proof"
experience is an expensive value, dont waste someone elses when they offer it to you for free
faggot
>>30430080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFtOv0VRzM4
Someone didn't do their research. Dry fire using snap caps or dont dry fire at all. CZ's older design has a number of documented breakages from dry firing. IIRC the reports came about after excessive dry firing too.
TL;DR - Don't dryfire without a snapcap in place, and don't do it obsessively. Shoot the gun, not play with it. Oh, and stock up on the commonly breaking parts and fix it yourself. Self reliance and all that.
>>30430839
snapcap wont save the trigger return spring
>>30430839
>thinking a snapcap will do anything for a trigger return spring
>not dry fire practicing
>buying a gun you cant dry fire practice with
CZ fags really are something special arent they?
>>30430773
>Holy shit... I've never seen an aftermarket for bits to put in a gun to stop dry firing it breaking
I doubt that dry vs. live fire matters for the trigger return spring, but it's a lot cheaper to test your spring by pulling the trigger 20,000 times than to shoot 20,000 rounds!
>>30430776
under rated post
>>30430839
>retard detected
guess what nigger, dry firing is practice. You think anyone gets past M in USPSA without some dryfire?
should've bought a glock like a normal person
>>30430874
Alright. I accept that. I like my SP-01 and accept that it isn't perfect. It's too heavy for CCW. The factory trigger could be lighter. It may not like over the top obsessive dry firing. I've seen a machining mark or two out there, though mine is clear and the finish is perfect too.
Accept that any gun will eventually fail. No matter what gun it is. THEY ARE MACHINES THAT WEAR OUT.
So go back to your Glock/S&W/Ruger/Sig/HK circlejerk and badmouth a legitimate firearm that works. I'm sure they'll love you more for it.
>>30430907
Actually, I expect they shoot the fuckin' gun more than dryfire. But I'm sure your elite online knowledge trumps my ideas of common sense.
>>30430936
>THEY ARE MACHINES THAT WEAR OUT.
meanwhile there are glocks with over 100,000 rounds that havent seen a bit of maintenance
CuckZ
>>30430397
Is that a real doll? Or whatever they're called
>>30430922
but i did
>>30430598
interestingly having no trs really lightened the triggerpull too bad about the whole manually resetting the trigger thing
>>30430234
>>30430598
>>30430752
your typing is fucking atrocious and i have to read your posts 3 times before i understand what you're saying.
sell you gun and use the money for a grammer class
>>30430950
Guess what, your expectations and "common sense" are wrong. Pretty much anyone who's any good has more dryfire reps than live shots fired. Bob Vogel shoots around 20k rounds a year, dryfires around 10 times as many. It's pretty fucking obvious you are a shitty shot if you think dryfire is "playing" with your gun.
>>30430960
>comparing the notably best outcomes of product A with the notably worst outcomes of product B
>>30430080
>Breaks his gun
>Complains
OP is indeed a fag.
>>30430993
nah I'm a normal civilian hobbyist. I do not work in the field nor do I compete. Thats how I know 100,000 practice trigger pulls is abnormal. I'm also a normal gun user. So tell me again all about your religious dry fire training. I'm all ears (and laughing at you mentally) .
Guns do break. So do springs. Whoo hoo. Buy some extras or pay the price.
>>30430714
Just holding one you can tell its cheap. The finish feels like they got spraypaint from walmart.
>>30430397
Those nipples are way too high. Uncanny valley type shit.
>>30430936
Oh STFU my service m9 with 200,000 rounds through it is more reliable quality/metallurgy/craftsmanship wise.
>>30430982
>sell you gun
That was unfortunate.
>>30431053
Read what you quoted again. Are you telling me your m9 with 200,000 rounds hasnt had parts replaced? Because if so there are two things to say:
1. Fire your armorer. You obviously don't need him or her.
2. Get that gun in to be recorded. I'm sure Beretta would love to test it out....and use it for advertising.
>>30431104
>2. Get that gun in to be recorded. I'm sure Beretta would love to test it out....and use it for advertising.
Sarcasm aside, a company making a consumer good that lasts an order of magnitude beyond its planned service life wouldn't want to test it for advertising - they'd want to learn how never to make that mistake again!
>>30431052
that is because they are designed to look like what lonely weirdos think a naked woman looks like rather than a real one.
>>30431122
Of course they replace parts at normal intervals but for this brand new CZ to have broken two springs like this is a bit much. I can very confidently say that I can take a Beretta and shoot it without failure unless a part (locking block for ex.) has an excessive amount of rounds past its service interval. THE CZ IN THE PICTURE has NOT REACHED A SERVICE INTERVAL!!! Thats the fucking point you pleb.
>>30431043
>nah I'm a normal civilian hobbyist. I do not work in the field nor do I compete.
ok, now I know for sure you're a shitter who puts up 5" groups at 7 yards. Don't assume everyone else practices as little as you do.
>Thats how I know 100,000 practice trigger pulls is abnormal.
What do you mean by abnormal? If you mean it's not possible, then you're wrong. Or if you're implying this is some kind of unusual abuse of a gun, CZ's have a reputation among competitive shooters for breaking slide stops and TRS's, moreso than Glock, HK, Sig, etc.
>So tell me again all about your religious dry fire training. I'm all ears (and laughing at you mentally) .
Are you a high-schooler? It's not cool to laugh at people for being good at stuff if you're over 16. Enjoy mediocrity if you want.
I've long stopped counting exactly but my estimate is that it only takes around 10-15 minutes of practice to press the trigger 200 times. That, 3-4 days a week, plus whatever live fire on the weekend, adds up. I don't even train that hard compared to others out there.
>Guns do break. So do springs. Whoo hoo. Buy some extras or pay the price.
Duh. Point is that CZ's are extra prone to breaking small parts and springs. Sorry to give you buyer's remorse or whatever, you bitter fuck.
>>30431156
a gun with 7k though it is brand new?
>>30431156
>>30431122
meant to >>
this guy
>>30431104
>>30431184
New enough for two return springs to not fucking break. And 7k isn't when things start breaking. 10-20k is when recoil springs and such should be replaced or 20k is when a beretta locking block should be replaced. A fucking return springs should almost never break unless its got tens of thousands of rounds through it.
>>30431184
Two TRSs in the span of 7k rounds is pretty bad. Lot of guns will make it twice as long before breaking just one TRS.
>>30431043
>I'm a normal civilian hobbyist
Fudd/10 and a shit shot too
>>30431203
>>30431209
http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=226329
seems pretty average actually the "better" aftermarket trs lasts only 10k
>>30431167
We're going to disagree on a great many things. I will agree that the CZ design has weak spots. I will still argue that 100,000 dry fires is unusual. The vast majority of shooters are not doing that to their firearms on a yearly basis.
And I will still find humor at the image of a younger guy sitting alone in a room aiming at an imaginary target and pulling the trigger. Humor and sadness too, maybe. I wish you luck at your serious training and hope to God you calm down a bit in the years to come.
TL;DR - Guns break. CZs break too, since they're guns. Finding humor in life is important.
>>30431265
>http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=226329
Sounds like a CZ problem.
>>30431273
>We're going to disagree on a great many things. I will agree that the CZ design has weak spots. I will still argue that 100,000 dry fires is unusual. The vast majority of shooters are not doing that to their firearms on a yearly basis.
Sure. But the vast majority of shooters will never even come close to making their guns break. They might as well shoot hi point for all that matters.
>And I will still find humor at the image of a younger guy sitting alone in a room aiming at an imaginary target and pulling the trigger. Humor and sadness too, maybe. I wish you luck at your serious training and hope to God you calm down a bit in the years to come.
Not sure where you're getting that this is somehow sad. I like being good at shooting, but I really like getting even better, and 10-15 minutes a day for a few days a week is not exactly a huge sacrifice. Training is fun and it brings me closer to other goals of mine, or else I wouldn't do it.
>>30431265
Meanwhile a stock TRS from Glock/sig/etc will last into multiples of that 10k.
>>30430982
A fan of hyperbole eh
>>30430080
>CZ
>>30430397
Why would I want a doll with fake breasts designed to look like fake breasts? Shouldn't they make the doll just look like she has naturally big perky titties?
>>30431142
>implying if you had one you wouldn't dress it in your mother's clothing and rig it to spank you
>>30431122
Why not both?
>>30430080
>7k rounds
>thinking you don't need to replace small parts
Fucking idiots
>>30430355
only after putting 7-10k rounds through it
>""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""czechnology""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Another victim claimed by /k/'s oldest trick
>>30432844
>needing to replace a TRS twice after 7k
That's pathetic anon. Considering I've seen Glock TRS's go into the 30k range without breaking, CZ performance just isn't there. Yes you need to change springs but come the fuck on, the TRS of all things usually lasts a good amount of time in other designs.
>>30431122
You type like my grandpa did. Pappy, are you shitposting from heaven?
>>30430978
>Or whatever they're called
You're not fooling anybody.
>>30431273
>haha he's practicing fundamental shooting skills how sad is that?
Far less sad than being content with mediocrity.
