Is trigger discipline all that important? People seemed to get along just fine without it before the 1950s.
People also lived without vaccines for a long-ass time too. Doesn't mean they're not a good idea. Keep your boogerhook off the bangswitch.
>>30425796
Well, before 1950 the world wasn't full of retards
>>30425796
People got along fine with lead paint too
>>30425796
Before the 1950's people also though a pistol should only be fired with one hand.
>>30425823
Do you actually believe that? The world has always been filled with idiots.
>>30425865
It's called a handgun and not a handsgun for a reason asshat.
>>30425796
Before SM, MSM, and wide scale communication.
No, same "shit happened" back then. They just shut up about it, and buried them where they wouldn't be disturbed.
Human stupidity will exist as long as humans do.
>>30425823
That's racist.
>>30425904
>handsgun
>>30426160
>>>/reddit/
>>30425796
You clearly have no issue being being on a 10 or whatever year old website on a computer designed within the last 20, in a drywall home with glass windows and a locking door with electricity and running water
Kys family
>>30425796
JB knew if his .22 auto was loaded or not. He's posing for a photo showing off the gun, and honestly if he were holding his finger out like an operator it would look dorky.
>>30425917
This too. Tho I've heard accounts from people who say that their grandfathers told them to keep their fingers off the trigger long before the rules were formalized. I also know that in my own older relatives were very sloppy about trigger control. They were very strict about muzzle control, though.
I learned to shoot from books and classes, so I was the hardass about trigger control.
>>30425865
>Before the 1950's people also though a pistol should only be fired with one hand.
It's a perfectly legit way to shoot a handgun. Accurate, stable stance, and small profile to opponent. This was before actual handgun "fighting" techniques developed.
And it does look cooler than the IPSC "hunchback with his fat butt sticking out" stance, though I concede the isosceles is generally superior.
>>30425824
People got along fine with lead paint too
Still do, anon. Lead white is THE best mixing, warm white for oil painting. Best drying qualities, permanence, and structural integrity. It's never been surpassed.
It's like handling lead bullets. If you don't eat it or sand it and breath the dust, and wash your hands afterwards it's perfectly safe.
>>30426415
>it does look cooler than the IPSC "hunchback with his fat butt sticking out" stance, though I concede the isosceles is generally superior.
>tfw Weaver also looks cooler
>>30425904
>handsgun
Holy fucking kek
>>30426524
Weaver does look pretty cool. Why anyone would use it for defensive use is beyond me (coopers gunsite still uses it to this day).
>>30425865
Two-handed shooting is discussed at least as early as by J.H. Fitzgerald in his 1930 book "Shooting."
you can break one safety rule at a time and be just fine
just don't break 2 or more at once
>>30425796
Doesn't matter. I now TD with
>drills
>saws
>my phone depending on how I carry it
>my dick
>walking quality sticks should there be a bulge
>large wrenches
>steering wheel depending on grip
>literally anything where I grip it like I would rifle
>>30426576
If you are breaking one rule you are only one mistake away from a very bad day. Boogerhook of the bangswitch.
>>30426563
Because if you get punched in isosceles you go down like a little bitch and it's really not conducive to efficient movement either.
Weaver, because of its basis in a boxing stance offers benefits when in actual combat, you just won't shoot as pretty as you do in isosceles.
Moot point though, because the average defensive shooting is within 7 yards and point shooting from the hip is perfectly effective and far quicker than aimed fire at that distance.
>>30426563
Feels more natural to me, but maybe that's just watching too many movies. And the square stance that you sometimes see taught with isosceles feels totally wrong for anything and everything, but nobody actually does that IRL so whatever.
>>30425865
you can shoot with one hand while you scalp a jap with the other hand and a foot
>>30426415
>They were very strict about muzzle control, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPD1xNmrPhk
>>30426524
>>30426563
I was taught to shoot Weaver and revert to it still if I'm not conscious about trying to use isosceles.
Old habits are a bitch.
>>30425904
eat shit frogg
>>30426641
>point shooting from the hip is perfectly effective and far quicker than aimed fire at that distance.
Didn't they find out that that wasn't true at the old Leatherslap contests?
>>30426641
>>30426707
http://www.handgunsmag.com/tactics-training/tactics_training_hg_deathofa_-200909/
>As the story goes, the late Col. Jeff Cooper and a bunch of like-minded shooters were participating in Cooper’s Leatherslap competition back in the late 1950s–shooting from the hip as they blazed away at balloons less than 10 feet away. They missed. A lot.
One-dummy-fits-all mentality
>>30426707
>>30426720
I can't say anything for the old Leatherslaps, but as a cop we have to point shoot at 6 feet and 7 yards to qualify and even the guys who can't seat a magazine can manage it.
And if shitty cops can manage it, then you can do it. With ease.
>>30425904
Hahahaohshit...
>>30426964
Actually, scratch that, it's 7 feet and 5 yards. 7 yards is beyond what I'd recommend trying to point shoot at, especially since you have the time to get the gun up.
And if you don't they're not at 7 yards anymore.
>>30427004
forget to put your tampon in, bitchboy?
>>30425878
Yes but before the 50's or so, you were still allowed to ridicule and beat the shit out of them for doing retarded things.
>>30425796
He's clearly trying to shoot something in that image
>>30427272
Well, well, well...we got us a Nostra-fucking-damus here.
>>30426415
>though I concede the isosceles is generally superior.
While I agree with this, isosceles leaves more vital organs exposed. A bullet hitting rib from the front chance is ~65%, a bullet hitting rib from side chance is something like 35%. While it doesnt really matter bc most all modern ammo will penetrate bone with ease, its something to keep in mind.
>>30426524
>modified Weaver/Isosceles stance is most superior friendo.
>>30426641
just wait until the CAR faggot shows up.
>>30426642
>purposely giving your target the biggest silouette
I'll never understand this.
>>30427399
>those feet
>those ankles
>that happy trail
>box of tampax
stuff 10 of those down your cocksucker and killyourself you crossdressing faggit. the world is fucked up enough already.
>>30427426
Resistance if futile.
*gulp*gulp*gulp*
>>30425796
If the gun is loaded its important.
People who freak out over trigger discipline with guns you know to be need unloaded are just being autistic.
>>30427534
For me it's mainly for the benefit of others. I may know that the firearm is unloaded but someone who just showed up at the range might not know. Likewise if I go to the range and someone I don't know flags me or has their finger on the trigger I'm uneasy because I haven't verified that the weapon is unloaded.
>>30426229
>>>/endyourlife/
>>30427598
Yeah, at the range sure.
But if I'm sitting around my house with an unloaded gun the concept that I should be handling like its loaded strikes me as needlessly uptight.
>>30425796
Meh. Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
It's only useful when you're around people you don't know. If I'm shooting melons with some pals, I trust them now to blow my brains out from a hand spasm
>>30427632
Honestly same thing applies for me anywhere. If I have buddies come over that I trust to handle my firearms I'll show them it's unloaded before handing it to them and expect the same. It's mostly due to the fact that it is a deadly tool. I also don't hand people knifes blade first. Common courtesy.
Greentext might help my reasoning
>this thing is cool
>if treated improperly it can kill you
>let me show you that it's safe before we fuck with it
I just want the same respect in return
>>30427407
>I'll never understand this.
It's a solid stance. Good for target shooting. Nice and stable.
I wouldn't train with it for anything but target shooting, though.
>>30427407
>purposely giving your target the biggest silouette
>I'll never understand this.
For police/military, it's to turn the strongest part of your body armor to the attacker.
For competition and self-defense it's the quickest and most natural stance. Stand facing the target, draw and aim, done.
>>30425796
Triggers where also generally harder back then, there was less risk of ND.
Knowledge advances fampai. I'm sure there was a point where proper shooting stances didn't exist, eventually experience and the gun teaches you.
>>30428115
This
Same reason you wouldn't hand someone a running saw, or a car in drive (another reason to drive manual)
>>30427407
>I'll never understand this.
It's the best stance with body armor.
