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Current news: Bill status as of June-23
>E-124 Petition to add property rights to the charter.4.3k Signatures Status: Complete, parlament has until July 20, 2016 to respond
>Bill C-230 An Act to amend the Criminal Code (firearm — definition of variant) Status: Second reading/Continuing debate
http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/BillDetails.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&billId=8111356
>Bill C-246 Modernizing Animal Protections Act(Hunting - More strict measures against hunters/trappers) Status: Second reading/Continuing debate
http://www.parl.gc.ca/legisinfo/BillDetails.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&billId=8122718
>Bill S-223 An Act to amend the Firearms Act and the Criminal Code Status: Second reading responsored by Sen Joan Fraser.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/BillDetails.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&billId=8177186
>Canada post rumored to strike starting July 2
If you need to send firearms through other services contact the CFP to make sure they are licensed to do so, and that the package both requires signature and travels by ground only.
whats the shortest ar 15 barrel that you can buy ?
NEA makes a 7.5 inch for about 175buxx
>>30423244
Outside of custom barrels the NEA 7.5 is the shortest i've seen in Canada.
>>30423244
7.5 is the shortest I'd go.
even then its a pretty shitty length
>>30423265
>>30423268
what would yall go with , im looking for budget barrels ~250
>>30423285
10.5 for fun or 14.5 for m4 fun while still remaining ok for competitive use.
Hopefully this Canada Post strike is over quick.
>visiting friends on the weekend, wanted to take them shooting
>only range nearby that allows walk-ons charges $50 per person for a visitor's pass
Why do ranges make it so difficult to introduce people to the sport?
>>30423527
Because guests always fuck shit up at the range.
>>30423527
Insurance and liability issues.
>>30423285
if you want short while being reliable? 10.5
I'd stay away from NEA.
>>30423604
is NEA actually that shitty?
>>30423527
Urban Tactical?
>>30424010
Their Gen1/2 bolt carriers are complete crap everything else is fine.
>>30424010
well they still cant fix their bolt carrier groups, I've seen his barrels come with out of spec barrel extensions which have lead to guns blowing up (thankfully I was on the left of the guy) and his handguards cannot for the life of him stay solid
>>30424035
Nah, Victoria Fish and Game. If it weren't for one of my friend's paranoia of hauling guns into the woods I'd just find some crown land to shoot on, assuming such a thing exists on the south island.
What is stopping you from leaving a STV40 on your side of the border, then coming back and taking $400 USD?
You'll only be breaking storage laws of a rifle the RCMP cant prove you ever had.
>>30424415
You mean going deep innawoods? Nothing. But if I'm going to that amount of trouble, I'm asking for a SCAR or FAL in return.
>>30424415
Id charge far more than retail if im smuggling gun on fucking foot
>>30423022
Spectre 80% glocks are in now, LPKits in 3-4 weeks.
https://ctcsupplies.ca/products/polymer80-spectre-80-frame-v-1-black
So I emailed Senator Fraser over her responsering S-223. Holy fuck her picture is the epitome of that weird Hutt-esque appearance that seems to occur in sleazy people with power.
>>30424415
It would be possible, but good luck finding someone stupid enough to do it for a measly $400
>>30424930
$280?
Holy fuck.
You can buy them in the US on sale for $130.
>Installed those fucking mailboxes so you no longer get your shit right in the mailbox where you want it
>Now they strike as I order a chicom chest rig
F U C K Y O U
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>>30426257
>chicom chest rig
6sh112-116 or go home, and you better have a 6b43-45 to throw under that 6sh. Pic semi related, my 6b46 BZN prototype plate carrier which is a stand alone system and my 6b47 helmet from the 3rd DPR army
>>30426201
>>30424532
SVT is what $300-400 Loons.
1 usd to .70 CaD.
If you could provide a really pristine SVT40. $800 USD.
Logging roads cross the border too. So you could drive.
>>30428241
Once again, fuck no. It isn't worth the risk to me when I know SVTs are like $1500 USD and up. I'd consider a trade for a top quality M1 Garand, or something like an FAL that I can't get up here but no way I'd run it for less.
>>30428256
Well, CMP has to get the next batch of Garands out for sale first.
All they have now are sniper variants for $20000-$3000.
>>30423527
Jesus, I thought $25/visitor at my local range was bad. I'm already not renewing with this one because of that, going to a more distant one (~40 minute drive vs 15) with no guest fees and cheaper membership.
Are there any good ranges around Toronto?
>>30428532
It gets asked every thread and noone ever answers.
If you were smart you'd take that as a no.
>>30428532
Not unless you want to drive more than an hour outside of Toronto.
>>30428532
No.
Closest decent one is Silverdale I think.
Or maybe Urban Tactical in Brantford.
>>30426257
I've heard they've left packages with guns in them just sitting at those community mailboxes because they're too lazy to deliver them.
Can I change the phone number the RCMP should use to contact me for any reason?
>>30430928
No you are stuck with the number you gave them for life.
>>30430928
Never mind. I suck cocks.
>>30429822
I've read several stories like that on CGN.
>>30423527
>mfw don't have to pay anything to bring a guest to my range
If only I had friends to bring
>>30424259
good thing i didn't buy one on impulse like i was considering when i saw a 20% off sale
Has anyone been hassled at the range for using a .50 Beo mag so you can shoot 15 rounds and sidestep the stupid 5 round mag cap?
>>30431414
I haven't heard of it being an issue.
If it happens, tell them to go look it up and stop bothering you.
>>30431444
The range owner can technically tell you to fuck off regardless of the law though, since it's a private club, innit?
It's all well and good for people with a lot of ranges nearby, but some people might be fucked if they burn their bridges by getting into it with the range owner over their magazine capacity.
Well shit. Club I want to join is not having orientation courses until September. Any ranges in the GTA open to non members?
>>30431414
>If it happens, tell them to go look it up and stop bothering you.
just take them the fuck out with your superior firepower
>>30431542
That would imply that there were ranges in the GTA at all.
>>30431450
When did I say anything about being rude to the owner of the range? How about you learn to be polite? Suddenly all your problems will disappear and people will like you.
I doubt that anyone who owns a range would be ignorant of magazine capacity laws. As the owner of a range you need to keep up on gun news to not get broadsided by the CFO.
The only guys that will give you shit are the fudds that show up once a year to fire one shot on a bench rest, and curse at anyone under 60. They have no power and nobody likes them.
>>30431566
>The only guys that will give you shit are the fudds that show up once a year to fire one shot on a bench rest, and curse at anyone under 60. They have no power and nobody likes them.
do these people actually exist? i've never seen a fudd IRL desu
>>30431566
Telling someone "Go look it up. Don't bother me." is generally viewed as rude.
>>30431549
Sorry I meant around the GTA. Silverdale saying you need a club level Att course and an invitation to be able to go there with restricted. Target sports Canada has a 125$ membership but it's weekdays only and 33$ range pass every time.
>>30431575
Unfortunately I have.
>>30431581
you're being autistic, clearly he didn't mean "say this to them verbatim"
>>30431627
There's no non-verbatim way to tell someone to not bother you and to find the information themselves that'd be quicker than simply explaining it to them, silly frogposter.
>>30431675
that's exactly what he meant, that you would explain it to them, and maybe give a citation of where/how they can look it up
you have assburgers
>>30431581
if the person is actually hassling you and has no right to, it's generally acceptable to be a bit curt so he knows he is not welcome to talk to you anymore
the range owner is responsible for what happens on his range and has the power to remove people from his range, so it's implicit that you shouldn't be rude to him
how did you get to be gun bearing age and not learn basic human stuff?
>>30431675
if someone is just asking a question that's not "hassling". if simply explaining how it worked is enough, then there's no problem and no need to tell the person to go away. the premise of this discussion was another range member being unreasonable about your use of perfectly legal magazines, something he has no right to do
if you want some exact instructions on what to do in a stressful situation, try this:
1.) Unlock your firearm if it isn't already
2.) Load it with the proper ammunition and make sure there's one in the chamber
3.) Ensure that all safeties are off
4.) Point the gun at yourself
5.) Pull the trigger
>>30431627
>>30431702
>unironically posting Pepes and accusing others of autism.assburgers
>>30431758
>implying a pepe poster isn't an expert on autism
What is the law on belt fed and magazine cap laws?
could I just load a snap cap every 6th round?
so I have to manually cycle the action to get to the next live round
>>30431758
how do you know it wasn't ironic
>>30431627
>>30431702
>>30431755
None of those things are "Look it up yourself, don't bother me". They are literally the exact opposite of that suggestion.
>hurr hurr, the exact opposite of what I said was OBVIOUSLY implied
>>30431775
there's no limit for belt fed
as far as i know one of the only belt fed guns around is mg34s though
>>30431778
you realize you're quoting all different people there and there's 3 of us calling you autistic
>>30431789
belt fed AR uppers.
>>30431808
>three people all typing exactly the same with poor punctuation and always in lower-case
Nigga, please.
>>30431814
oh cool, can you actually get those here?
whats would be the point though? it would still be restricted
>>30431775
RCMP says that you need to have 5 round belts unless they were made before 1945
they're full of shit though, belts are not magazines according to the definition of a magazine and therefore aren't covered
>>30431839
the majority of people don't bother capitalizing on 4chan
how has anyone's punctuation been poor?
>>30431839
I only typed one of those posts. it's common to type only in lower case on 4chan. i've been doing it for years.
problem?
>>30431839
t. guy who shows up to bbq parties wearing a suit and tie
>>30431848
>>30431858
>>30431871
>all three "unique" posters still posting a minute apart
I feel only sadness for you.
>>30431892
>all three "unique" posters still posting a minute apart
>posts are less than a minute apart
I feel only sadness for you.
>>30431892
you're fucking nuts dude
>>30432093
He's not Nuts Dude. I'm Nuts Dude.
Would using the security cable and locking it to the inside of an Ikea drawer be going above and beyond what is needed for storage laws in Canada or is just the combination on the safe enough?
>>30432819
Considering an Ikea drawer is about as durable as tissue paper panties, I'd say you're wasting your time. Just use a safe like a normal person.
>>30432865
Full size safe is out of the question at the moment. It's for a single revolver. If I bolt it to the floor I'll be good I guess?
>>30428532
No Toronto banned gun ranges and almost all gun stores. Closest is Silverdale, Triggers and Bows and Urban Tactical
>>30433306
>Triggers and Bows
is that place any good?
looks like cambodian tire employees aren't too sharp and found their misplaced("Stolen") firearms.
http://windsor.ctvnews.ca/police-determine-no-guns-stolen-at-west-windsor-canadian-tire-1.2965301
>>30433893
kek , thats why you go to the walker road ct , the huron line one is filled with tards
>inb4 it was all an inside jeb
does anyone have a PCV 5 round .50 Beowulf magazine?
can you load it with 7.62x39 to see how many rounds fit without becoming totally jammed up?
>>30434000
It jams on feeding more than anything else, also IIRC 8 rounds.
>>30429822
>Order anything gun related
>Fuckers throw that "no one was home, you can pick your package up tomorrow afternoon at the post office" thing they used to hang on doorknobs into the community mailbox
I fucking hate Canada Post
How much are nagants these days?
>>30434075
91/30 Round ~$200
91/30 Hex ~290
m44 ~400
>>30432929
I got a like $70 Sentry Safe for the revolver I had. It was a big-ass 7.5" Ruger Redhawk. Fit well.
>>30434062
>ordered Mosin Nagant
>5 foot tall postal woman delivers a 7 foot cardboard box to my door
>she tells me my gun is huge
I'm not complaining
>>30434184
4u
>>30434123
Anon I hope that's CAD
>>30433968
Fellow Windsorite here.Huron line has shit selection, at least Walker has more milsurp aside from one sks.
>>30434331
Yeah it is still way too much IMO
>>30434331
it looks like that , alough that seems a tad high
and "sniper" mosins are about 790 at ct
>>30434349
they had quiet a bit of misurp for a chain store , i hope they re order.
You a member of WAPC?
>>30434123
>>30434374
>>30434375
How about carbine 91/44?
>>30434411
Usually around the same as m44's but I haven't seen many at dealers recently.
>>30434429
Ah shit.. Why buy shorter mosin when I can have TWO long mosin..
>>30428241
Nah, unless I can 100% confirm it isn't RCMP/ATF fuckery, and I'd only trade for one of the dream guns we can't have. A FAL, G3, SCAR, AK, MP5, AUG or Dragunov.
>>30431622
>>30431622
>Silverdale
>Rapid fire – ranges 2-8 60 days suspension
what a cuckfest. shame that they have such nice facilities.
Why can't we own FALs?????
>>30434502
Too easy to full auto.
>>30423396
True. Mailing in my PAL app this week and I was hoping to get to the range by early fall.
>>30434510
It
Wouldn't
Even
Be
Combat
Effective
>>30434510
It's because they were used in the military not long before the laws were passed and the Senators saw a bunch about them in "Guns n Ammo" magazines that they were looking through and decided they were too scary. If you consider slam fire to be full auto then all semis would be banned.
>>30434733
Yeah if they had passed as non military still ez to use a shim on semi autos to make them full auto.
>>30434780
If it isn't them being retards over slamfire, then it's them being retards over shoestring machine guns because muh 'ciprocating charging handle. Once again, retarded. It was named under one of the OICs, meaning politicians prohibited it. This means it was done because of appearance or because it was advertised in a magazine or some other silly reason, not because of any actual capabilities that would require understanding of how firearms work.
ARES AMG belt-fed upper. Are these available in Canada?
>>30434806
I said shim not shoestring, or the m14/m305 would be banned as well.
>>30434530
Anon, you have to think like a lib.
Full auto doesn't mean you run through your ammunition like a motherfucker, battling a shit ton of recoil to control your accuracy and wasting way more ammunition on a single target than you should; it means you just turned on a real life infinite ammo cheat and can blow away millions of people with a single magazine, firing from the hip because your bullets curve mid flight to make sure every single one goes inbetween someones eyes.
>>30434833
Well that's my point. Since it was done by politicians, it's not because of any actual possibility of conversion to full auto, but rather because they associated it with the military, and places like Rhodesia and whatnot, then decided it's too scary.
>>30434849
Well not quite they associated it with the SLR and L1A1 which our military was using at the same time. Same deal almost happened with the AR-15 but we fought and won it in court thats why AR's are restricted. Its unfortunate that FAL's were not as close in popularity to the AR.
>>30428896
>Hour drive
That's not bad.
>>30433584
Never been but its attached to a gunstore, its indoor up too .223 / 5.56 and no shotguns
>>30435244
fucking expensive at $450/yr for being so far from the GTA.
I'm not feeling Urban Tactical because I hear it can get crowded and attracts non licensed idiots with their 'range packages'. Fuck silverdale too because >>30434492
There are so few choices, I hate this fucking province/country/planet.
>>30435317
I don't have that problem i shoot on my friends land
>>30435379
around the GTA?
why hasn't he started calling it a range and collecting cash?
>>30435443
I live by Triggers and Bows so its a drive from the GTA.
Its a farm, can't exactly shoot whenever you want
>>30434502
is there birdshit on the dead black guy ?
>>30435512
artifacts on the photograph
>>30435488
>can't exactly shoot whenever you want
that's a shame. guessing because of noise.
you shoot restricteds on it too?
>>30435555
no just NR for now as both of us don't have our restricteds, but he is getting his soon
>>30434492
There's rapid fire on action ranges for members
>>30434129
Is it one of those that looks like the hotel safes?
Anyone know how hard it is to build an M1 Garand?
SFRC has stripped eye-tie receivers for $30
>>30436004
how awful are those range course they require you to take? the holster/pistol/rapid fire ones I'm guessing.
Where to shoot restricteds in calgary bros?
>>30436205
Installing the barrel and head spacing would be the hardest part. The rest is just finding and fitting parts.
>>30436205
It's mostly collecting parts. It could potentially take a while, depending on whether or not the parts are widely available.
>>30436295
How much of a difference in cost is there in building your own Garand vs buying a whole Garand?
>when you started shooting, a VG M1 Garand costed $650-700
>now they cost $1400
>parts kits cost $1000
>you'll never live happily ever after with pre-Havoc Anne Hathaway.
>>30436556
I couldn't tell you. I briefly looked into it because there were stripped lowers available, but I couldn't too much info on parts so I didn't really look into it in depth.
>>30436205
Trade-ex also has bolts and barrels.
>>30436556
I'll find out. In about $300 so far
So it literally doesn't matter if a safe is easy to open, as long as it locks it's fine?
>>30437808
If it's advertised as a safe it's one for the firearms storage laws. Anything else will be classed as a cabinet as long as it locks.
>>30437808
The short answer is yes.
The long answer is that if it ever came down to it, it will depend on how reasonable you're being, and/or how big of an asshole the RCMP/prosecution is.
It's readily obvious that storage laws aren't very black and white.
There is a fairly popular story floating around the internet about some guy who got charged with improper storage because some burglars broke into his safe while he was on vacation, even though his storage was considered "overkill" and "excessive" by most people (it took the burglars several DAYS to break it open).
On the other hand, for anecdotal example, one of my own friends actually had his home searched by the RCMP, and they were content with his storage setup, even though he was using a $99 Stack-On cabinet made of sheet metal.
>>30423022
I heard Canada Post is going on strike. Does this mean my Ebay and Amazon purchases won't get to me? I've got a ton of shit coming in.
>want to start a new AR build with my A1 upper
>BCM is the only barrel available that fits my profile requirements
>$390 for a stripped 11.5" lightweight carbine
fuck this exchange rate. i might just buy a beater S&J and profile it myself on the school lathes. does anyone knowwhere i can find diagrams/schematics of AR barrel profiles, especially older ones like XM pencil barrels.
but then i have to get it refinished...FUCK!
>>30437884
I just don't want to get buttfucked by the RCMP for having pic related in a drawer in my room which isn't locked. What's the maximum sentence for incorrect storage of firearms and do you lose the privilege of owning firearms?
>>30437937
$390 for the barrel only?
Haha oh wow.
>>30437969
yep, and nobody has them in country either. quoted 390 straight up from CTCS, 380 taxes in plus shipping from aztech.
>>30437911
Starts soon, so hope it arrives before then.
>>30437911
Generally speaking, yes.
Exceptions:
>they arrive before July 2nd (which is when the strike is expected to happen)
>the negotiations end in Canada Post's favour
Next time, if the vendor offers any shipping option other than Canada Post, run with that option. I've known better for a while now. This isn't Canada Post's first strike, so I almost always choose anything else (UPS, FedEx, Loomis, CanPar, etc.)
>>30436073
Sort of.
>>30437968
As long is the safe is locked you should be good to go.
This is mine.
>>30438007
Fuck CTCS, seriously. They overcharge the shit out of everyone. Have you tried an LGS or equipment exchange?
has anyone gone to royal military college and how was your experience?
>>30438245
closest thing i've found is an old olympic arms AR, which would've been perfect as it was an XM clone, but i'd have to break it down and cut the flash hider off and install the one i want, which also happens to be $190.
>>30431091
Ill be your friend... Edmonton area im a noob tho
>>30423527
My range is awesome but only allows guests during events for a $10 fee
>>30438230
Alright. I'm gonna pull the trigger and hope to get it before Canada Post strikes.
>>30424035
hah, southernontariobro?
i used to be a member there, and the guy up front likes me cause i sold him my M14 for cheap, so he only charges me $20 instead of 50.
>>30438415
https://www.amazon.ca/SentrySafe-X055-Security-Cubic-Black/dp/B000Z8P5Z2
>>30438443
Yep.
I've been meaning to take my Beretta there. They take walk ins, and I don't have a club membership anywhere yet.
>>30438828
what places are you considering?
>>30438859
EESA is the best one closest to me, I think.
Just been dragging my feet about checking the place out.
>>30387217
>any of you guys interested in an Alberta nuggetfest north?
You're gonna be happy with next Summer's NuggetFest schedule that's being planned.
>>30439035
Oh, yeah? Details? If it's a big one, THE /k/anada meet, I'll go.
>>30438377
I'll go shooting with you, Anon. I'm always open to helping new shooters.
>>30439035
I'd never be able to make the drive to Alberta, but if there was an East ON or West QC one, I'd try to make that.
>>30439071
>Oh, yeah? Details? If it's a big one, THE /k/anada meet, I'll go.
Well, it'll be THE big one for the West side of Canada, I'll say that much. But I don't want to ruin the surprises, I'll have more info in a few months. Mostly likely the Fall/Autumn. Right now I have a ranch I need to get back to.
>>30439101
>but if there was an East ON or West QC one, I'd try to make that.
You're gonna be happy with the NuggetFest schedule too /k/ommrade.
Goodnight guys.
>>30439217
mfw im 12hours away from either meet ,
> windsor amirite
>>30439217
>>but if there was an East ON or West QC one, I'd try to make that.
>You're gonna be happy with the NuggetFest schedule too /k/ommrade.
>Goodnight guys.
Really? Someone's taken up the responsibility of organizing that? Goodnight sweet prince.
some lucky duck just got a bullpup .50 BMG
>>30427385
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBntnnCFvOk [Embed]
>>30439266
You can get those up here, but holy fuck are they expensive.
http://www.tacticalimports.ca/gm6-lynx-p-3.html
>>30439328
There are only two non-restricted bullpups in Canada, they say.
These people have clearly never seen the Lynx before.
>>30439217
>You're gonna be happy with the NuggetFest schedule too /k/ommrade.
don't you cheeki breaky my heart
Anyone have experience with either Galt's Sportmen's Club or Guelph Rod and Gun Club?
>>30439359
Maybe they mean .50 bmg bullpups, then they are probably right. Theres the Lynx GM6 and Barret M95
Hey /k/anada, I'm sure this question has been asked many times, but what are my best options for a non-restricted .22lr that's under $300? And are there any semi-automatics that are non-restricted? My .22 is more than 80 years old and it's showing its age in a pretty big way. If I can't get it repaired for less than a hundred dollars, I'm going to have to replace it.
>>30440521
Most are non-restricted.
Savage 64
Used Ruger 10/22
RIA 10/22
Marlin 70PSS
Mossberg 702
AR-7
Tons of choice in your price range.
>>30440536
Thanks! And if you think of any particular rifles that you'd recommend above the others, please do post them!
>>30440521
Most semi autos are non restricted. If it has over an 18.5" length as a centerfire, and isn't named to a different category, then it's NR, such as the VZ58. Semi auto rimfires are also NR, at any length to my knowledge. For less than $300, I would suggest the Ruger 10/22, but I recommend you shop around.
Here is an imcomplete list of online retailers:
https://shopquestar.com/shopping65/default.asp
http://www.tacticalimports.ca/
http://www.wolverinesupplies.com/
http://marstar.ca/html/home.html
http://www.cabelas.ca/
http://www.bullseyesports.ca/
http://www.wholesalesports.com//storefront/
https://www.canadaammo.com/
http://frontierfirearms.ca/
http://www.theammosource.com/
http://www.reliablegun.com/en/
http://www.sportsmansguide.ca/net/main/CanadaMain.aspx
http://www.milarm.com/
http://www.wanstallsonline.com/
http://www.leverarms.com/
http://www.italiansportinggoods.com/
http://www.tradeexcanada.com/
http://www.irunguns.ca/
http://www.canstararms.ca/
https://ellwoodepps.com
http://www.albertatacticalrifle.com/
http://www.triggerwholesale.com/
http://ctcsupplies.ca/
http://section8sports.ca/
http://www.corwin-arms.com/
In particular I recommend theammosource.com canadaammo.com or wolverinesupplies.com
>>30440580
10/22 is the gold standard for quality and aftermarket but they are kinda expensive here if you find one cheap grab it. (RIA clones are fine not sure if there are any new ones after they got sued)
The AR-7 and Marlin 70PSS are takedown pack rifles.
Savage, mossberg are just stupid cheap.
>>30440521
What is your .22? The model I mean. An old Cooey?
>>30440593
>Most semi autos are non restricted.
And here I thought the opposite was true. I definitely have some research to do. Thanks for the recs, I don't usually buy online but I'm really going to try to save as much money as I can this time around.
>>30440595
Does the stupid cheapness of Savage and Mossberg show up in their quality? I'll keep the 10/22 in mind, I see it mentioned a lot. A takedown rifle would be nice as well though, if only for having the option available.
>>30441338
It's a Mossberg Model 20 (pic not mine), made under the name "Wards Western Field Model 32A". Single shot, terrible one-piece trigger, no safety at all. This would all be fine, except that shells are no longer reliably sealing in the chamber and nearly every one fails to extract. I wouldn't even bother to bring it to a gunsmith if it hadn't been my grandfather's rifle. Sentimentality can be costly sometimes.
>>30441474
Don't have a mossberg but the quality on my savage 64 and mk2 fine, where they really cheap out on is the stocks on the low end models they are pretty flimsy but its a 22 so doesn't bother me much.
>>30437911
why are they even allowed to have a union or strike?
essential service mawfuckas
>i own a type 97
>>30442701
The Flat Top one looks nice.
So how does buying privately owned restricted firearms work? Does the seller even need a gun club name?
>>30443102
>Does the seller even need a gun club name?
what? why would he?
one of you needs to call the CFC and generate a transfer number. then the other calls or is called by the RCMP to complete the other end of the transaction.
>>30443102
Nyet.
>>30423022
Hey are there any solid ranges around the KW area?
I just looked into Twin City, $ 250 annual fee, no Steel Core ammo, can bring guests for a fee, to be a member just fill out form and take tour, long waiting list though.
>>30443377
List I got is: Elmira, Bridgeport, Galt's and Guelph Rod and Gun.
>>30440536
Is the sr .22 rifle a restricted rifle
I was given one and i dont know if i need to register it or not
>>30443613
it's NR
however, the mossberg .22 AR-15 lookalike is restricted even though the lower won't accept an AR-15 upper.
>>30434530
lawmakers aren't worried about combat effectiveness, they're worried some crank walks into a shopping mall with it.
>>30438279
terrible. I was there for 3 years and am now an NCM. So much happier.
>>30443652
That doesn't sound right. I own a 715t, which I assume to be the Mossberg in question, and didn't have to jump through any hoops for it
>>30441501
One of my LGS has a Savage 64 for $228 + tax, I may go for that. Sucks that it isn't drilled for mounts, but I guess that's what I get for wanting a cheapo semi-auto. Thanks for the info man.
>>30438913
EESA is nice, i was there a few years ago for blast off. its run by that crotchety old fuck stormbringer from CGN.
>>30438828
dave, the guy running UT, is good people, although it is a bit expensive, it's a nice place to shoot, and usually not busy during the week. they make their money off the tourists and shit buying the shooting packages, so he isn't really concerned with keeping membership up.
![IMG_20160629_145902622[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/m1USwYT.jpg "IMG_20160629_145902622[1].jpg")
How much are you all paying these days for dirty surplus 7.62x39? I remember way back when it went for $4.95 per 20 rounds... that was a few months ago. Is this just because our currency is shite?
>>30443917
No shit. Stormbringer runs EESA?
I think I may know who he is IRL then.
>>30443875
maybe it's the S&W? I seem to recall one of the not-AR-15 .22 guns being considered an AR-15, but I'd be glad to be wrong
>>30443991
>buying boxes of 7.62x39
>not crates
>>30443991
1200 rounds for 299$ never buy it any way but bulk anon
I've avoided posting in some time, but I am continuing to experience an unknown delay in getting my RPAL renewed. It was renewed in December, a month before it expires. Come today, its been 6 months. All I know is that its with the provincial CFO and despite weekly phone calls, they just continue to tell me to wait. I'm getting nervous more and more as the days go on.
Is there any rational reason this should be happening?
>>30423268
would its length classify it as a pistol?
>>30423022
Anyone from Winnipeg know any good gun clubs to join?
>>30444383
nope. having a stock tends to make it a rifle. it's restricted by name, length and barrel length though.
funny how the circuit judge was deemed a pistol despite being >26" with a fixed stock
>>30444414
Then how are people able to get 10 round pistol mags that fir ARs. Sorry for the retarded questions.
>>30440521
The 10/22 is my favourite, I got mine for $250 new. It's the most basic model, but the receiver is drilled and tapped and it came with a rail to mount on top of you want.
My only complaints are that field stripping it is a bit annoying and reassembly is a fucking bitch, and the sights (gold bead front w/ notch rear) are often hard for me to see
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>>30444441
there are like 70 of these in the country. notice how they don't have stocks and the receivers were never configured for use in a rifle, only a pistol
if someone brought in .50 beowulf pistols then we could have 10.5 round Beowulf magazines that hold 30 rounds of 5.56. someone was going to bring in 500 of them but the RCMP raided his house and made up charges so he had to put it off. as far as I know none of the charges stuck because they were all bullshit.
>>30444441
Kel-Tec PLR-16.
>>30444451
>I got mine for $250 new.
Looks like those days are over. And that's also surprising, to hear that field stripping and reassembly are a real pain, I have come across those complaints for other .22s but never for the Ruger.
>>30437113
>>30436205
A saw a price breakdown on reddit one time, cost for all the parts was about $1,600
>>30445082
It's not hard to take apart, but it's a bit irritating in that it requires tools, removing the barrel band, etc.
But I hate reassembly. The recoil spring, guide rod, and charging handle are one weird piece that goes across the receiver, across the bolt, and it is a massive pain in the ass to get them back into place after removing them
>>30445105
If they're decent-quality parts, and that price is in Canadollars, it's probably a little more expensive than a similar grade of Garand from the CMP. Of course that's only available to Americans anyways, but it might be a good reference point for cost.
>>30445219
Have you ever had a 10/22 Takedown? I wonder if they're a lot simpler and easier to strip and reassemble. At least the barrel band is out of the picture. But I'd definitely have to bloat my budget for it.
>>30445424
I'd have gotten a takedown model if they had one at the time, but I've no experience with them.
Mine is just the basic carbine model with the hardwood stock
>>30445424
A regular 10/22 will take down quite easily. Unscrew the stock, loosen the band on the forestock and it comes right in two.
>>30445542
So then the field strip and disassembly/reassembly procedures are pretty much the same between the 10/22 and takedown model?
>>30445581
I dunno, I've never held a takedown.
The barrel doesn't appear to come easily out of the regular 10/22, but the receiver is short enough that it doesn't matter for packability.
>>30445424
the 10/22 takedown is actually no easier to disassemble than the regular 10/22. the only advantage is that you can break it down (as the name implies) and fit it under your driver's seat.
some cons on the 10/22 in general:
>trigger is shit
>stock open sights are shit
>included rail is shit
>beechwood carbine stock is meh; the concave butt is annoying to me
and some pros:
>very reliable when using good ammo (cough cough cci minimag)
>easy to disassemble, clean, and reassemble (>>30445219 needs to watch a youtube video)
>infinite customizations available
bottom line:
the stock gun makes a good plinker when shooting at 20 yards or less. you can get it down between 1 and 2 moa at 50 yards or less with a few upgrades (good glass, match trigger), providing you know how to shoot.
necessary upgrades would be an aftermarket picatinny scope mount (weaver brand is good) and an optic.
>>30445752
>the stock gun makes a good plinker when shooting at 20 yards or less. you can get it down between 1 and 2 moa at 50 yards or less with a few upgrades (good glass, match trigger), providing you know how to shoot.
lol what?
>>30443521
Elmira doesn't take members anymore, been full for two-three years now I think. Bridgeport looked okay, Galt is nuts though, if you want to use their full facilities it's something like 605 per year. Granted they're massive, but each section has its own entry list so it's near impossible to get in anyways. Guelph is full too I think. God I wish I had enough land to shoot on
>>30445993
THE STOCK GUN MAKES A GOOD PLINKER WHEN SHOOTING AT TWENTY YARDS OR LESS! YOU CAN GET IT DOWN BETWEEN ONE AND TWO MINUTES OF ANGLE AT FIFTY YARDS OR LESS WITH A FEW UPGRADES, SUCH AS GOOD GLASS AND A MATCH TRIGGER! HOWEVER, YOU WILL HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO SHOOT TO ACHIEVE THE AFOREMENTIONED LEVEL OF PRECISION; THE TWENTY TWO CALIBRE LONG RIFLE CARTRIDGE IS PRONE TO INACCURACY CAUSED BY WIND DUE TO ITS LOW WEIGHT AND (RELATIVELY) SLOW BULLET SPEED!
>>30445752
Those are some pretty serious cons. Have you come across a semi-auto .22lr that can spit out any kind of ammo with passable accuracy (disregarding my own skill as a shooter)?
Marlin 795?
Cheapest spot to get 9mm in Edmonton? I want to sight in my new Glock, but only have 50rds.
Urban Tactical allows you to use their range without a "package"?
>>30437911
Amazon will be using Canpar and other options, do not worry.
>>30449695
>mfw just bought a safe from Amazon today
>shipping with Canada Post
>hoping it gets here by Friday or Saturday
Will it be too late?
Have any of you guys had experience with Kel Tec guns? I was gonna try to buy a T97 NSR from Al's a while they had one on sale but someone bought it before I got paid, so I'm SOL there. I'm considering maybe an SU-16 as a Plan B .223 rifle but I'd rather not drop 900 bucks on something that I find out is trash after the fact.
Would it be a worthy investment or am I better off just saving up to get an Type 97 with an FTU instead?
>>30449781
And of course as I typed this out Al's magically has more Type 97's on sale. Are these still coming into the country regularly or something?
>>30449829
probably. the chinese want more money, and we want more guns.
so much so that they're ramping up production of Type 81 rifles
>>30449829
I'd expect that they'd still be selling them, there isn't really a reason to not sell them. I'm personally hoping they do regular production of Type 81s.
>>30431844
I've always wondered about disintegrating beltlinks. It's a surprisingly in depth philosophical question, if not a legal one. If they truely aren't limited, I'm building a semi-auto .50BMG M2.
>>30449999
>Quads confirm Type 81's production will continue for a long time
I hope they keep importing Type 97's. I'm probably gonna go buy one soonish seeing as I'll have the money in a week. I hate going into Toronto but for that it'd be worth it. Type 97's seem to have a good reputation and they look pretty easy to maintain, plus muh bullpup aesthetic.
>>30432492
But is he fucking you?
>>30449682
Yep.
>>30449718
>see grey/stainless Strike One on EE 3 weeks ago
>$400 below retail
>just another basically new gun sold at a massive loss
>Hi, EMT to @mail.ru
>I am waiting for Your PAL, address, full name.
>Hi, there. Device was sent. Tracking number-
>Expected delivery 2016/07/06
>Check tracking number today
>10:55 , BC Item out for delivery
>2016/06/29 11:01 , BC Verifying recipient's address; Possible delay
>working tomorrow
jfmsu
>>30434830
Better question is whether the USA will allow export; ITAR is an absolute bitch if you get caught.
>>30450170
you actually sent the EMT to the guy? holy fuck
did you get the registration transferred?
>>30450252
>did you get the registration transferred?
Yeah I got the transfer notification yesterday.
>>30450170
>@mail.ru
Dunno about you, but that screams scam to me. Did you get proof it even exists?
>>30444451
They get a LAR magazine. That company makes AR pistols therefore their mags were designed for use in a handgun therefore they are 10 rounds.
Our magazine laws are fucky because they are based on how the magazine was originally intended to be used by the manufacturer, not how it ends up getting used. Which is fun when a company makes the exact same mag for two different guns. Example: semi-auto centerfire Remington 7400 (5 round limit) and pump-action Remington 7600 (no limit) take the exact same magazine. Remington made 10 round magazines and didn't mark which they were for, so all of those mags exist in a quantum state of prohibited and legal.
A guy from the NFA used to try to get himself arrested for possessing one but police and the CFOs refused to charge him.
>>30444364
You are literally the reason I didn't bother getting my RPAL and just stuck with non-restricted. 6 months is an unreasonable amount of fuckery. I would contact my local MP and see if they can lean on the CFO. Alternately, an experienced lawyer.
>>30444364
>>30450417
I want this question answered too
>>30444364
What province?
>>30450729
I heard BC can be fucky, while Ontario is decent
Any truth to this?
>>30450792
Ontario has ups and down. The CFO wants all sales of ammo and guns to be recorded in log books at the store, but at the same time you don't need to be a range member to have your restricted registration transferred.
>>30450417
It took me awhile to actually make use of my RPAL, and my AR's and Sig's are worth it.
Just kinda sucks when my friend gives me a bunch of 15 round mags when he heard I was getting a 226. Now I still need spare mags to use in competitions...
>>30449460
Hard to resist.
>>30450941
Did you ever try the Norinco P226 clones? When I was doing my RPAL course we got a chance to hold the P226, since it was one of the guns, and I really liked how it felt in my hand, but it's a bit out of my price range. I was wondering if you could give a comparison.
>>30452228
>Norinco
why do you guys support bootleg chink shit?
behave like a rational human and discipline yourself. learn to save up money so that you can afford nice things.
>>30452273
Partly because of University, partly because I have a massive list of guns I want to buy and if I can save a few bucks to get ammo, parts, or a new gun then I will.
>>30452278
do you get student loans? I live below what ever means are expected and so OSAP in combination with the bursaries/grants I get feels pretty generous, to the extent that the excess over the year just paid for my PAL+RPAL, USP, SKS, lots of ammo, and with more to come.
If that's not the case for you, then I'd still say be patient and wait until you have enough cash to buy the real deal. That's always more satisfying in the long run in comparison to what ever immediate but short lived gratification you might get over buying cheap shit/chink shit/clones.
>>30452324
I'm going on OSAP for the first time this year (year 5) so I might depending on how much I get. I already have a VZ58, Mosin, and Mossberg 500. My main issue is that I'm in Quebec so I'd have to get a range membership to get the transfer approved.
>>30450924
>mfw going to Al's today to possibly buy a 686
Can't wait.
>>30428532
Soon maybe in Ajax.
Firearms Outlet Canada wants to set up a range, I am told.
>>30452273
One chink P226 costs half as much as a sig P226. I could buy the sig, or I could buy two chink pistols, one of them in 7.62x25. Or I could just buy one and have 400 dollars left over for ammo.
All these guns function flawlessly. It's not a pretend handgun. It is the real deal, the "real fake" if you will.
>>30434502
Because it's 2016 anon
How are the Norinco 1911s? Decent shooters?
Also, what's a good, cheap 9mm starter pistol?
>>30453987
Lot's of people love the Norc 1911. Good shooter at a good price.
For a decent 9mm, check out S&W's SD9VE.
>>30452899
Worth it, love my 586
Looked at a new Model 66 as well, but I was too bothered by how unattractive it looked compared to older models
>>30454781
I would be getting the 4 inch stainless.
Guys, has anyone else seen the email from the CSSA saying Canada is acceding to the UN arms treaty?
>>30455011
that's old news. sucks, eh?
>>30449718
>mfw just bought a safe from Amazon today
What safe did you buy?
>>30455286
This. Hopefully its legal :^)
