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The recent violence at the capital (along with all the recent events) had me worried about the prospect of widespread civil unrest.

What gun would you guys recommend for me as a California resident to acquire to prepare for this event?

I was thinking a surplus rifle like an SKS or a pump action shotgun.

The plan right now for civil unrest is to get me and my family out, maybe even to relatives in Arizona if necessary. Primary mode of transport will be by car.
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>>30416137
Don't bother, stay away from the the conflicting party members and the areas of conflict. Also, keep away from the Antifa Faggots.
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>>30416254
The greyman shit is exactly what I'm going for, but sometimes the trouble comes to you.

I want to be able to defend myself and my family if my city gets engulfed in riots while we're bugging out.
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handguns for as many people who will be learning to use them
rifle or two
if you've got to use them in a car you'll be happy to have the maneuverability
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Single-shot break open shotgun. It's the only weapon you can still carry in your car in the fup duck failed state. Keep a couple hulls in your shirt pocket and practice loading.

Also, pepper foggers for everybody in your family.
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>>30416286
Should I be concerned about being on a list since all guns need to be registered now?

In the event of a crisis, I wouldn't be surprised if the state government actually uses the list to confiscate guns as a "security measure".
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>>30416274
Sks would probably be your best bet assuming its CA legal. If it gets to the point of emergency bug out you may be more lax on transport legality but otherwise never transport the weapon or ammo in a way that risks your freedom. As for shotguns they are cheap and easy but probably too specialized for general chaos
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>>30416314
Wait, what?

Registry where? When?
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>>30416137
Buy like 6 RIA M206's and teach everyone in your family how to use them.
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>>30416296
Pepper foggers are a great idea in general as it will seperate opportunistic rioters from determined attackers
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>>30416296
Really? According to the official DoJ site you can carry just about anything as long as its unloaded or stored locked (hand guns).

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/travel

>>30416327
The plan is to store the guns in the home full time and move them to the car as soon as it's bugout time.

>>30416342
http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/02/california-new-anti-gun-laws-take-effect-january-1/

Only for guns transferred (bought) after 1/1/2014.
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>>30416314
Well you do have family in Arizona
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>>30416296
technically if a handgun is unloaded and in a locked case it can be inside the passenger compartment. ammo can be in the same case.
as far as I know the laws don't have anything about the key being already in the keyhole of the case

>>30416342
it's a defacto registry because the CA DOJ requires details on all firearm sales (make, model, length, caliber, etc)
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The best defense against civil unrest is living in the middle of fucking nowhere.


source: I live in rural indiana
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>>30416368
Hmmm if you are practiced with it then whatever weapon you have is a great start. Having a emergency grab bag is always good. Fuel food and water in the trunk and never having less than half a tank of gas increases how far you can go without stopping and gives you flexibility if shit breaks down. The weapon helps but in your case making sure you escape the commie zone sounds like the main priority
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>>30416137
""ANTIFA""

top kike
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>>30416314
>In the event of a crisis, I wouldn't be surprised if the state government actually uses the list to confiscate guns as a "security measure".
Of course they will. There's Federal legislation forbidding it after what happened in N'awlins, but that's a mere technicality.
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>>30416137
>>.weebly.com
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>>30416468
Sadly this. Was in civil disturbance planning for the national guard when I was in and while some soldiers would not enforce the confiscation plenty would and most leadership would prefer to have it happen to reduce difficulties in moving refugees
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>>30416137
>was thinking a surplus rifle like an SKS or a pump action shotgun
either one would serve you well,

as far as pump-guns go, mossberg 500 is my rec...
a cliche recommendation for GOOD reasons
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>>30416654
590A1 would be my recommendation, because nothing says "don't fuck with me" like a shotgun with a bayonet.
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powerful laser pointers, the kind that burn stuff and blind people
homemade irritant smoke grenades
birdshot
also look up the guy that equipped his car with flamethrowers
Fire extinguishers have decent results on rioters I think
Or portable pressure washers
armor car with hot plates
how about a helicopter thing mounted to your car roof that flails chains around, maybe hot chains?
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>>30416676
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I'm 100% sure punching a nazi in the face is 100% good all the time forever.
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>>30416789
On the one hand, yes.

On the other hand, a pox on all their houses.
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The question is. How do you go to place where Antifa faggots are. Wait for them to lay hands on you, with out you provoking them overtly. Then shoot them dead on the spot. While avoiding looking like you went their to just to shoot some antifa.
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>>30416376
>it's a defacto registry
No defacto registry, it is straight up without pretense a registry.
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Who over loses America wins
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>>30416676

>buying the 590 for no reason

Enjoy getting gimmicked out of your shekels.
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>>30416789
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>>30416829
enjoy prison time and/or being a fucking idiotic psychopath

or maybe you're just an edgy 13 year old...
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>>30416829
didn't work out well for black powder ranger and arctic fox
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>>30416137
> which gun to buy? i'm afraid the gay libs are going to punch me in the face

Forget the gun. It'll shatter your little girly wrists, nancy
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Once upon a time, there was a riot in California. A man tried to drive his car through the crowd, he may have run into some people. Some other people broke the windows out of his car. While that was happening, the man got his car stuck on a curb and then couldn't move it. People were pointing and laughing at his predicament. At this point, the man started brandishing a firearm at the mob. I shit you not, a young lady climbed on the hood of his car, dropped her pants and pissed on his windshield. Everyone had their phones out and thought it was the funniest thing they'd ever seen. The man put his gun away and sat in his piss covered windowless car and waited for the police to come save him.

My point is, it seems to me like your plan in the event of civil unrest could put your senpai in unnecessary danger. My advice is to keep the senpai at home. In any event it's a bad idea to let a mob know that you are armed.
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>>30416369

Fuck off, we're full.
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>>30416800

This.

Can't we just use these demonstrations/counterdemonstrations as opportunities to lock all these dickheads into an isolated area and let them kill off as many of each other as they can before we swoop in with the National Guard and kill the winners? I mean, I don't think that either side is worth a fuck and we'd be better off without them all.
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>>30417272
Hmmm would make for a great reality show
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>>30416137
moving out of calforina
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>antifa
Do you have this cancer in the US too? I thought it was restricted to countries like France, Germany and UK.
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>>30417016
he's not wrong though groups they associate with are on terrorists they don't deserve any sympathy
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>>30416137

>Attack Neo Nazis
>Antifa faggots who are pro gun control now want guns after getting their asses kicked

I hope both you faggots kill as many of the other side as you can. Antifa are pro globalist shills who are liberal toolbags and Neo nazis are shit for obvious reasons.
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>>30418439
It started in the US, like all leftist movements after WW2
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>>30418439

It's not as bad as in Europe. It's just pro establishment SJWs cosplaying as "underground resistance fighters".
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>>30416137

>Californian

How about you sink in the boat you created, faggot?
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>>30416137

Antifa...
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>>30418463
its faggots like you that drank tea with the enemy.

>attacking fellow k/ommando behind enemy lines.
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>>30416137
Don't go to AZ, if SHTF you'll die. There's not enough water and the heat is deadly without a/C, not even slightly exaggerating.

Get an 80% lower and build an AR. None of that cuck registration bullshit.
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>>30418476
I like their message.
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>>30416944
quite glorious actually, that picture
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>>30416833
>he doesn't know what 'de facto' means
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>>30416137
>antifas and nazis beating each other up
>califag reads the signs and wants to get a gun

Well getting a gun is always a good idea ofc, but shit like that happens on a weekly basis in Europe. That's the whole deal about those guys, they kick each other in the face if they can. Doesn't mean there's going to be the need of getting your family out.
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>>30418454
Oh, did it?

I think you're full of shite
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>>30416944
why does that PKM stock look so weird
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>>30416137
If you think a small clash like the recent one will lead to civil unrest, i'd really like to know how you'd feel if you lived in Berlin.
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>>30418481

You're not a fellow /k/ommando. You're a faggot that drinks tea with the gungrabbers and now wants guns. If shit hits the fan I would shoot you and your buddies no contest. Go drink some bleach.
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>>30418519
hey, baby cali hipster millenial's first brush with life has to happen at some point
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>>30418498
You're still a retard. The phrase you're looking for is de jure.

Using de facto isn't correct if the law does what it says it does. When discussing laws and regulations (as we are here) de facto means something that actually happens in CONTRAST to what the law actually says (de jure)

Goddamn kids.
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>>30418560
It wasn't me who originally said it, but as I understood what he said, it's not an actual registry, but the law that is in place means that the information collected at various different points collects the same information a registry may collect, albeit from multiple sources instead of one.

ie. a de facto registry.
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>>30417168
He should have popped off two in her pink and one in her stink.

I don't know how the fuck anyone lives in these huge cities with this kind of shit going on. I'm in a fairly small city on a good side of town and after a year I'm looking to see if I can find some property that's isolated but also within driving distance of work. The thought of a Chicago transplant coming in my apartment when I'm not here and making off with everything is fucking enraging.
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>>30418586
No.

The law calls it registration, which makes it de jure, not de facto.

An example of de facto registration would be a law requiring gun insurance, since it would force people to register their guns, without it being the stated purpose of the law.

Simple enough for you, retard?
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>>30416342
Hawaii just became the first state to do so like 4 days ago and none of you faggots are mad...
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>>30418612
That may indeed be the case, I don't really care what the law says. That's not how he described it, and as I said, I was working off his comment.

Simple enough for you?
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>>30416254
>antifa
>we are going to stop the facists by keeping them from exercising freedom of speech and assembly
>no antifa, you are the facists
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>>30418654
Logic is toxic to commies
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>>30418654
And then Antifa was zombies?
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>>30418654
>stoping fascists is fascism

Not even leftist, but your logic is shit. That's how children and stupid people think.
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>>30418654
So you're against the death penalty?

Because, killing a murderer makes us murderers, too?

Fuck off, libtard. It's the same retarded way of thinking.
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>>30418654
If it's a lawful counter-protest, that doesn't infringe on freedom of speech or assembly. Freedom of speech doesn't come with the right to be heard, you're perfectly alright to shout over the top of them. It's only if/when things turn violent or unlawful that that freedom is infringed.
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>>30418670
See freedom riders vs westborough baptist nonsense church
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>>30418661

Stopping fascists from exercising their freedom of expression is the antithesis of a core tenant of classical liberalism. John Stuart Mill would not be pleased.
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>>30416398
What part? Got relatives in Hobart and Hamlet.

>>30416789
Right, the fun part comes in when everybody slightly to your right is a Nazi. Which is in fact how antifa works.

>>30418458
This is quite right. Probably because the anti-antifa have guns here.
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>>30418514
bump, someone tell me

did they make that stock themselves? are those standard stocks?
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>>30416137
You guys are having mass shootings like every few weeks, but when there's some folks hitting each other with batons, you freak out and think about arming up/getting your families out of state?

Holy shit burger niggers, that's weak

We have that shit almost every day
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>>30418940
you need to keep in mind that everyone living in california is a candyass
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>>30418968
allright, that actually explains a lot
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>>30416137
We don't want you. Stay in California.
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>>30418448
Pretty much this. Pro establishment cunts.
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>>30418598
Chicago transplant to a small town here. I moved to get away from the dindusaurus wrecks. Most nogs you meet in California grew up there, and most Chicago transplants are white flight.
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>>30418628
everyone is mad, hickock is mad, haven't you seen the threads? we'll have to see how the courts rule on it's constitutionality, vote rebuplican.

>>30418862
yeah, looks like a homemade replacement
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>>30419241
/thread
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>>30418654
There is literally nothing wrong with fucking up nazis. If you disagree with this, time to gtfo of America
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>>30420008
/thread
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>>30420008
America joined the wrong side for both World Wars lad.

It's not wrong to try and change the present for a better future.
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>>30420290
I hope your grandfather's not alive to see you. Then again, maybe he was a collaborationist?
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>>30420290
>today's neo nazis in the US equal german nationalsocialists of the 20st century
>kek

..but even if they did, fuck off stormcuck weirdo
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>>30416137
I don't know the particualr of california's law, but I think the basics of the happening gun always apply.

You want something that you will be able to pull out and magdump without fighting with your own gun.

That means shorter is better, and that ergonomics actually count. A short shotgun (are foldable stock allowed in commiefornia?) or handgun fit to your hand.

Reliability is important. You will have to grab it in a second of panick and slap the safety off in a pinch.
On the other hand, you don't want it to go off in your car because some bullshit grabbed it in a roadbump.

If you never shot a gun, I will advise for a shotgun as short as you can make it with heavy buckshots, or the scariest looking handgun you can find.
Big ass Revolver is not a bad choice either. Psychological effect is a thing.

Or go for PDW like an MP5 clone, or AKSU
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>>30416137
Antifa scum and stormfags should collectively off themselves with shotgun mouthwash. You stormfags have guns and yet you are still so insecure and terrified of unarmed antifa faggots you project it with your "self defense" murder scenarios? Thank you /k/ for reinforcing the stereotype of paranoid gun owners.
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>>30420307
Grandparents were Mexican farmers and German American farmers.

So both won't give a shit lad.
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.38 special. I like them because they're so small.
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>>30420420
>implying there weren't millions of militant communists in Germany who founded the original Antifa and fought the nazis on the streets before 1933
>implying the most commie volunteers fighting for the Republic in the Spanish civil war didn't come from the 3rd Reich
>implying there weren't and still are millions of communists in Mexico
>implying all Mexicans and Germans support fascism and national socialism

try and think a little less American, anon
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>>30418701
Fucking this you goddamn unamerican dickholes
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>>30418701
classical liberalism inevitably ends in communism

Liberalism was a MISTAKE that needs to be rectified

Also kill all these goddamn commies
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>>30420474
German militants of the Antifaschistische Aktion/Antifa and the Rotfrontkämpferbund called all workers to keep their rifles and pistols and form antifascist revolutionary militias, when the liberal government of the Weimar republic tried to grab all the guns and establish harsh gun laws in the 1920s.

I wish those SJW kids in California, cosplaying as militant antifas, would know about the roots of the Antifa movement. Those guys were badass, pro gun militant revolutionaries. Tell them to read some shit about the Rote Ruhrarmee or Rotfrontkämpferbund if you meet one.

Hell, even today's Antifas in Germany look way more serious than their californian fans.
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Why can't we just step back and let the two groups kill each other off?
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I'm no fan of SJW politics and their obnoxious supporters, but nazis and facist scum piss me off more. What loadout should I wear if I am planning on removing Nazi scum?
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>>30420584
>>30420666
Oh, this should be your loadout.

Let the human trash take each other out. Who cares.
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>>30420666
dye your hair blue, lots of piercings, thick rimmed classes, and a dildo
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>>30420680
>>30420700
Normal people get triggered by facist symbols, swastikas and violent rhetoric. But fit, armed nazis get incredibly triggered by the color purple, women, birkenstocks and glasses. Who knew nazis were so afraid of pussies?

Should I mount my giant spinning dildo as a bayonet, or use it as melee?
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>>30420584
except the antifa in Europe spend most of their time
beating up nationalists who aren't even actual nazis
they anything see anything right-wing as "fashust and waysist"
nothing but a bunch of communist hooligans
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>>30420584
>>30420680

I like comparing those images. German/European antifa vs. Anglo-American antifa.
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>>30420290
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>>30416137
hello there op, I would suggest refining your plan before buying. I would also go with a handgun in 9mm.
here's my reasoning.

1. you are on a budget.
this is a great thing, save money it will be more useful in keeping you safe during a situation like you describe. keeping a good amount of cash at hand is a must.

2. outfit your car to get quick access to your gun. this is way harder with a rifle than with a gun. imagine being attacked in your car, where is your rifle? how do you get to it? maneuver it in your car without sweeping your whole family in a moment of extreme stress? deal with the crazy shit that happens when you shoot a gun inside a car full of family without ppe, and casings burning your crotch as you prepare to aim a followup shot?

3. concealing a gun with 15 rounds and a few mags is easier than concealing a rifle with 30 or 40 round mags

4. everybody and I do mean everybody that sees you are armed will consider you an enemy, rioters, looters, police, military, national Guard. keep it secret, keep it safe.
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>>30418519
>want to fight against nazis wich everyone know they are bad
>wear balaclavas to hide indentity

i don't think the anti-communist in poland weared balaclavas when they told the russians to get the fuck out
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>>30418519
>>30420984
I love how to the uninitiated that don't speak the language, I could almost guarantee I could say "These dudes are Nazis" and there's enough scary outfits and red and black that people would believe me.
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>>30420984
>>30421015

Well they are breaking the law by attacking people, would be fucking retarded to do that without hiding your identity. Your logic is shit.
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>>30421035
>Well they are breaking the law by attacking people

can't they just promote their movement like green peace and just show up in small numbers around the oh so supposed nazis ?
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>>30421035
Holy shit, I didn't even try to throw up any logic, I was commenting on how they looked you gigantic autist. I didn't even say anything against them.

Get the stick out of your ass, every post isn't an affront to your strong, correct, amazing, beautiful pet antifa movement or whatever.

>>30421046
Also, this. They're Nazis. Nobody listens to them or considers them at all other than other Nazis. And they really aren't doing themselves any favors beating the shit out of general normal Nationalists and people protesting fucking Muslim refugees or whatever.
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>>30420781
>But fit, armed nazis get incredibly triggered by the color purple, women, birkenstocks and glasses
no, normal people are equally offended by perpetually victimized retardo social regressives and the dickless nu-males who gobble up their shit

the only difference between you and a nazi is that you're on opposite faces of the same human garbage coin
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>>30421120

>Confuses people disagreeing with him as people attacking him
>actually thinks anti-facism = fascism

I bet you write angry messages to girls who turn you down
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>>30421120
see
>>30418661
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>>30418666
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>>30420506

This. I've moved to being a reactionary, because classical liberalism just doesn't work in the long run.
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>>30420823
Anti-fa are just paid militant activist groups
Paid & organized by government or NGO's or w/e
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>>30421222
And who's behind it, juice or reptilians? Or are they the same?

you poor imbecile
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>>30421160
I bet you started HRT after watching your gf getting impregnated by a gang of nignogs.
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>>30421227
international judaism is behind it
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>>30421162
>Americans don't have the right to say things unless I approve of them

Kindly neck yourself or move to Europe. You have the right to preach whatever poison you want, you don't have the right to make others bleed for it. You fags are literally the same as them, only you're worse because you're so far up on that high horse you can't tell men from ants.
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>>30416327
Too specialized?
You can use buckshot, slug, and flare rounds. Doesn't seem too specialized to me.
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>>30421281

So if everybody is allowed to say anything they want, why can't I say that you're fucking retarded and all your shit is racist?

Do you not see how it's different rules for people who don't agree with you?

>get fucked, alt-right cucklord
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>>30416327
A loaded mag locked Ina box with a cleared pistol is legal I believe.
I don't know about this never risk your freedom shit tho.
Talking about the shotgun being too specialized also denotes your argument as invalid
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>>30421162
>attacking the anti-fascism = fascism strawman
I didn't say they were the equal, I said they were equally shit. the street would be a lot cleaner for regular folk if either got swept away.
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>>30416137
>Authoritarian AntiFas beating up Authoritarian Facists

Life is good. Fuck both parties
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>>30421322

>I didn't say they were equal
>they are equally shit

hokay
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>>30420506
>>30421175

So what's your end game, folks? Ye olde 1930's fascism? 3rd position? Single party state capatilism?

Or are all of you just a bunch of Holden Caulfields with no goals?
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>>30421292
>alt-right

Really off the mark there, I was a democrat until the 90s and I worked as a lawyer for the ACLU. So allow me to repeat what I said again and this time you can't pull the alt-right boogeyman card on me.

You are allowed to say what you want, but you cannot bring violence into the equation ever. You cannot disrupt free speech with it, or threats of it, and if you do than you are literally a waste of American breathing space.
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>>30421331
Absolute Monarchy
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>>30421330
yes, there's a difference. I don't care about whatever 'HURR DURR stopping fascism = fascism' strawman you're retardedly trying to fence since I never mentioned it. just because feces and vomit are both disgusting doesn't mean that feces = vomit.
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>>30421343
>but you cannot bring violence into the equation ever.
All of politics and government and life itself is violence
You can't seperate it, and only a coward would say "never ever".

The idea that violence is "unamerican" is lunacy
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>>30416349
That's good thinking /k/omandante
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>>30421362

I'll admit, didn't see that one coming.
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>>30421331

Constitutional monarchy/aristocracy worked pretty well. The original founding of America was pretty good, until they started to expand the right to vote.
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>>30421362
>Wants to replace centuries of American presidency to elect a meme candidate who literally only speaks in buzzwords.
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>>30416789
You can punch Nazis and still be a massive cancer.
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>>30418519

If I lived in Berlin, I would not be living there long as Germany is a smelly shithole, as is most of western yerp.

>eastern yerp is the same except cooler because it is Wild West with track suits
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>>30421378
I would love to see you use that argument in court.

>no, violence is perfectly American your honor
>all politics is violence
>what? Jail?! All I did was assault someone I disagreed with!

Come on kid. And it's not that I'm a pacifist, it's that I understand we can and should do politics without violence. I've served in shitholes that had people killed daily for politics, and I don't really want to see it that bad at home,
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>>30421585
America was based on a whole buncha fantasy ideas that only worked so long as they weren't taken seriously, such as equality.
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>>30416789
>>30416944
>antifas actually fighting ISIS in Syria

i like that.
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>>30421576

So landed white males only, eh? Or would both land and title both be required?
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>>30418968
Rudypoo candy asses, can you small what the rock is Cookin?
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>>30416137
Whats funny is the group that got the permit to protest aren't Nazi's.
They are a traditionalist group.
Also they didn't bring weapons to their protest.

Antifa faggots found out someone with different opinions then them were holding a protest and because they think in dichotomy assumed they were Nazi's and told people to show up with weapons.

Whats even funnier is that some antifa faggot stabbed one of the traditionalist and he grabbed the knife he got stabbed with and stabbed his attacker and the others trying to jump him.

These guys were outnumbered and had no weapons and they beat the fuck out of the antifa counter protestors in some cases with weapons they wrestled away from antifa faggots.

Dont forget these antifa attacked anyone white too.
Like pic related
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>>30421656
Yea sure, but this no violence idea leads to where we are now, countries filled with pussies/liberals/women in authority/foreigners/etc
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>>30421707

Yes landed white males sounds good.
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>>30420008
You're right, until we start allowing violence against anyone for their views.

k will get mad if you put in any gun control because it's a slippery slope, but doesn't seem to give a shit about other slopes.
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>>30416314
This has happened on US soil, such as in NOLA after Katrina. Theoretically illegal now per federal law, but in a disaster you should expect the police and local NG to be pissed off and scared and doing whatever the fuck they want. If you try to hide them or say "boating accident" when they come knocking they'll probably ransack your house (or worse).

I would suggest getting the largest capacity handgun you can conceal on your person through private sale from another state. That will be your ultimate backup for a full blown disaster situation where guns are being confiscated.

In general, I would recommend an AR with a removable California compliance feature like a bullet button (although it looks like the ban on those is about to go through), but it seems dumb to buy something registered that's most likely about to become illegal. SKS is probably the best "cheap" option that will be unaffected by the ban. There are some other off brand ones like the Kel Tec SU16CA or the Benelli MR1 that take STANAG magazines and aren't evil assault weapons, but you may want something more established and reliable.

Also, don't rule out a semi-auto shotgun. Capacity and reload time suffers, but there's a reason they're called "riot guns." A lot of them also have the bonus of fudd-friendly design, which will probably remain legal throughout a legislative shitstorm.
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>>30421759

So how do you deal with the blowback when large numbers of renting working class veterans (white or otherwise) come back from a war trained, furious, and incapable of electing their own representatives? England tried this and ended up giving in around 1918 for this very reason.
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>>30421309
It's debatable. There is no clear definition of "unloaded" in CA, and a lot of LEOs and gun experts have argued that having a loaded magazine in the same locked container could get you charged with having a loaded gun. That may be just for handguns, though. An indoor range officer once threatened to call the cops on me for coming in with loaded mags in the same locked case as the gun.
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>>30420008
>fuck the police
>you don't have a right to demonstrate
>*hurl bottles and cheap shot
>*attack with sticks
>oh no, help police. I'm being attacked.
Fuck Anti-Fa. They got what they deserved.
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>>30418519
kek, would like to see this guys against Poles.
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>>30421162
"Let's beat up people demonstrating in public to silence their free expression because we find it abhorrent!"

I don't like fascists but I like the first amendment and hate violence. Antifa can fuck themselves.
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>>30421798

Veterans get the right to vote too. Solved.
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>>30421832
Anyone who isn't flying a commie flag is a "fascist" to these people

>>30421798
The problem with england is they got millions of people killed dragging out the war for no reason, so ofc vets were upset.
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>>30421720
Who gives a shit if libs and women are in power. As long as they don't fuck the nation and gun laws.

It was the non-violence of schools (as in not letting kids fight at all or defend themselves) that made so many people pussies, not the removal of violence from politics.
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Word on the street is Race War is on.


BOUT FUCKING TIME.
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>>30421873
>knowing what's the word on the street

haha faggot
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>>30421863
>As long as they don't fuck the nation and gun laws.
Except thats what they WILL do every time
Which is why for thousands of years we knew to keep them out of authority

>not the removal of violence from politics.
Things would be different if there were regular brawls in congress or conventions m8
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>>30421863
Kids shouldn't be allowed to pick fights, but (even threatening to) penalizing them for defending themselves was the big mistake.
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>>30416137
Get whatever you can afford and train with it often OP. SKS isn't a bad option.

>>30421656

You're absolutely right about free speech anon, the thing is these people who are advocating violence for speech they disagree with do *not* have the same ethical and/or moral code as most Americans. Any perceived slight against their ideologies are taken as a personal slight against themselves, hence the violent lashing out.

>>30421873

Wake me up when Kik and YikYak are calling to kill whites.
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>>30421687
The equality thing is just to prevent state endorsed discrimination be it by implicit measures or by exploitative loopholes. It was not meant to make people stop being intolerant assholes, it was meant to absolve the government of any responsibility for the fallout from centuries of discrimination. Hence, the govt can claim to support BLM when the very same government's social programs hindered black social progress and police repression made life for black people shitty as it is. All the government needs to do is invent a racist boogeyman and send the BLM drones that way, rather than accept responsibility for the conditions they directly created.
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>>30421909
You believe there is police repressions of blacks in the US? Or social programs that hinder blacks?

They were not talking about "discrimination" when they said equal back then.
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>>30421954
>They were not talking about "discrimination" when they said equal back then.
No, they were talking about Jim Crow, segregation and lynchings. Were those not arguably worse forms of "discrimination" sanctioned by the government before 1965?
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>>30422063
Segregation is not "discrimination" by any sane definition
Lynchings were extra judicial killings of criminals, nothing that specifically targetted blacks.
Jim crow was whites in the south preserving their way of life & society, nothing wrong with that, all peoples deserve self-determination.

All of this was considered constitutional for 100 years, so obviously the founding fathers, who considered slavery constitutional, wouldn't have considered segregation a problem.
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>>30422102
You think someone would really do that? Just go on the Internet and tell lies?
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>>30422118
Are segregated bathrooms discrimination?
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>>30416398
219 reporting in friend :^)
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>>30416944
They seem pretty dangerous, good on them for taking a shot at ISIS, but it won't be long till they point their arms at ma for having a different opinion. And that's if they can smuggle them through.
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>>30420584
They're still a bunch of pro establishment commies and ade no different than stormfags and nei nazis. Good on them for protecting their rights, but the moment they decide to go on the offensive is the moment we have to step in and tell them to fuck off
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>>30421576
So Constitutionalist Libertarianism that is run by a Confederational government
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>>30421719
this
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>Hey! You have opinions I don't like! You're a Nazi! I'm going to get all my Not Nazi friends together and suppress your protests and rallies to show you how Nazi you are!
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>>30421694
>he thinks anti-fa is declaring their hate for ISIS in those pictures
Anon, I...
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>>30416137
Communist faggot. Fuck you posting that picture.

Choke on your own blood.
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>>30422783
1/10 for making me reply

read the fucking text of the 2nd image you imbecile, also they're clearly standing infront of a trashed isis sign
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>antifas think theyc an stab some neo nazi faggots and bully them like they did at the California Trump rally
>Get shocked that the Nazis fight back and beat their asses
>Same antifa faggots want guns despite voting in a supporting antigun faggots their whole lives

Oh the Irony. I hate to do it, but I'm going to take the stormfaggot's side on this one. It's a shame they didn't kill any of those antifa faggots.
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>>30419253
By "Chicago transplant" I meant gang members that were given a free bus ticket by the city of Chicago and told to gtfo. They set up here and immediately go back to doing what they were doing. It's crazy there are fucking drivebys in Iowa. We're the quintessential midwest hokey state. Fuck Chicago exporting their worst to us.
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Antifa filth.

Get out, untermensch.
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>>30422977
Sauce on that pic?
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>>30423173

schwarzesmarken, a Muv-Luv spin off that takes place in East Germany during the cold war.
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>>30421362
>>30421576

>t. Moldbug

>>30422977
dubs of truth

low t faggots get blown the fuck out
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>>30416376
Ammunition cannot be in the same case and magazines cannot be loaded
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>>30416137
>communist antifa fighting neonazis

who cares, by all means kill each other
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Don't buy a gun to prepare for a single event. Buy one you want to learn about, that you can be comfortable shooting.
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>>30422977
Honestly?

I'll take people who think some people suck based only on random shit over people who will strip every persons rights, because everyone ever sucks.
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>>30424140

One is loathed by all, the other is a puppet of the liberals. Antifa need to die.
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>>30420008
there is literally nothing wrong with gassing jews. too bad it never actually happened.
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>>30420584
why where they anti-fascist? its not like they believe in freedom. forced communism is the most tyrannical form of government there is. fascism allowed private business.
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>>30420420
>Grandparents were Mexican farmers and German American farmers.

Franks & Beans, dat joo?
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being a white European makes you a Nazi according to brown people
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>>30424378
well basically because they were communists, they believed that the workers have a natural right to have the power over the means of production and should communaly decide how they are used, without some private business owner telling them what to do and paying them to little money. they also believed that it's a man's deeds what counts, not where he comes from, what he looks like, or what religion he has, as long as he's keeping his religion private. They wanted the communist party of germany to win, take control in germany, and start the world revolution together with the other commie parties from all over the world.
all that makes them the fascists' nemesis, as fascists believe in private business, white supremacy, and antisemitism.
many german communists emigrated to spain or france, fought the fascists and nazis, fled to the soviet union, and were later executed or imprisoned by stalin. many stayed in germany and were imprisoned or executed, others had to fight in special wehrmacht battalions like the 999, and defected to the russians. others fought directly for the russians, and later built the socialist republic in east germany. those were different times, back then they really believed in communism and it's ideal of equality. a lot of them later lost all hope due to what happened in the soviet union and in the GDR. But your question is answered, they were antifascists because they were commies. The communist party almost won the election by the way, Ernst Thälmann lost very close to Adolf Hitler in the Reichstagswahl.
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>>30424540
You sure earned your women's studies degree.
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>>30425573
I'm studying history, I'm not even sure if there's bullshit like that over here. Keep your retarded burger nigger cliches for yourself, what the fuck does KPD history have to do with your US SJW faggotry
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>>30425635
*tips progress
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>>30418661
everyone has a right to freedom of speech, even if you dont agree with what they have to say
Blacklivesmatter, furries,nazis, all of them.
So long as they are organized not making threats and have the proper legal paper work they have a right to do it
You can deny rights to some just because you dont like it. How would you feel if this was a pro gun group that got attacked like this?
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