Alright fuckos, let's fix this shit. Post where you're from and what works best and we'll compile a list and make a new one.
>>30390720
>lets fix something that is not broken
The eastern seaboard and midwest are correct, can't say anything about the west.
This seems like a good but we should have a different map for each season.
Northern Illinois, for summer I think multicam tropic, DPM, flecktarn, atacs fg, or M90 would be good. It's hard to choose one pattern that would be perfect for summe here.
New England (better then old england) is good with rhodie, tiger, and gay ass hunting camo. In the winter just white.
>>30390720
south texas is correct. central looks okay too.
>>30390720
Massachusetts: the best would be a mix of coyote and multicam, when fall hits you are nearly invisible with this combo. Works in most of New England.
>>30390750
I still think Woodland is fine for me in the southwest VA area, but flectarn is a good option too
>>30390769
Just post what works for each season and we'll make 2-4
>>30390750
The eastern seaboard varies EXTREMELY especially when it comes to climate and foliage. Flektarn definitely wouldn't work everywhere
That bland brown color tucked way down into south east texas is spot on.
But on an additional note the gulf coast is a lot of light green tall grass marsh in a bunch of spots
>>30390843
NWU type iii for North West Florida
Central coast commifornian here, woodland is actually looking pretty good
>>30390913
didn't mean to respond to
>>30390843
>>30390720
Hell, in just one area shit can change a bunch over the course of the year. In the Willamette Valley in Oregon, I'd say MARPAT in spring, Multicam in summer, Belgian jigsaw of all things in fall and M81 woodland in winter.
>>30390921
The problem is you stick out like a sore thumb if you move a few yards to the left. The best all around for that area would be multicam.
I never understood why camo uniforms don't have dirt colored patterns from the knee down. To look like sand, or dirt, or bush stems or tree trunks?
It wouldn't make the human outline more noticeable, which is most of what camo does.
Multicam Tropic is perfect for Florida
northwest camo is incorrect.
CADPAT would be good for the pacific coast, hoh rainforest, etc, but eastern washington is dry scrubland forest kind of. so a desert pattern would be better
>>30390720
Houston
>>30390921
The problem for us is that there's a pretty diverse range of vegetation in a small area. Camo that works well in the redwoods is going to do fuck all in the grassy hills.
>>30390720
Iowa.
Okay, I'm sorry, why the fuck does Midwest get stuck with a camo that unironically has basically black and white on it. That seems fucking insane. WTF.
>>30390984
Maybe not your neck of the woods but in Missouri fits with darker woods
Pennsylvania here, M81 or woodland Marpat in the mountain highlands, multicam tropic in the lowlands, Alpenflage in the fall, Multicam or snow white in winter.
Flecktarn would be a decent compromise though.
>>30390720
Tucson, AZ.
>>30390720
Where's the olive drab? It should cover everything.
Woodland/ Multicam Tropic For Western WA and Oregon and Eastern WA should be Multicam or Multicam Arid
New York - Flecktarn
>>30390720
Anyone have any infographics on camo?
MarPat or CadPat for Appalachian woodlands, Many of the stands are nearing 100 years growth and they are shady enough to justify the black in the MarPat
>>30390778
Coyote brown
>>30391151
Digi flora too
>>30390720
South Texas coast here. Multicam works great around here.
>>30390720
In Redding california, German cammo is best, tons of manzanita.
>>30391111
>olive drab
Of fucking course.
>places I have lived/camos that work
>Ft. Benning Georgia/MultiCam
>Colorado Front Range/MultiCam
>Olympia Washington/ATACS FG
>Ft. Bragg North Carolina/MultiCam
>Provo Utah/MultiCam
Hmm, in retrospect I should've just said MultiCam works most places and ATACS FG works in the tropics.
>>30391111
CADPAT, woodland, and OD for the Midwest
>>30390960
Underrated post. 10/10
Georgia here.
Coyote tan and ERDL Woodland work the best.
>>30391295
>Coyote tan and ERDL Woodland
literally multicam is the inbetween of those things
South Ohio.
M81, CADPAT and DPM work well here for heavily forested areas. NWU Type III is a runner up.
Multicam works most places, and also quite well in cropland, although I'm not sure why you'd want to stand out in the middle of a field with zero cover.
>>30391111
>>30391210
OD works great in Oregon at least.
>>30390720
Anywhere in WA east of the cascades is multicam.
Rolling hills of brown earth and sagebrush forever.
>>30391363
>works great
Meaning: "it does what an actual pattern could do better."
>>30390720
>Flecktarn for New England, Great Lakes region, and majority of the South.
Can flecktarn truly be so based?
>MARPAT for 60% of the Gulf Coast and huge block of Redneck France
Whose fucking idea was this?
>>30391405
OD isn't the best solution, but it does have the advantage over most patterns in that it rarely sticks out like a sore thumb. In dark forest, Multicam fails, in light grass or brown fields, MARPAT fails, et cetera. I'd hazard a guess that ignoring fieldcraft, you'd maybe get a 30 yard advantage from a pattern over OD in Oregon at least. Including how good you are at hiding yourself, well, then anything short of a ghillie doesn't matter as long as it's reasonably close to the colors of the environment.
One thing airsoft absolutely did teach me is that patterns don't matter that much. Except for ACU. That shit is like wearing blaze orange.
Tennessee anyone?
>>30391479
Olive Drab
Southern California here. Multicam is the best choice outside the desert, though you can get away with woodland in places because of dark brush and mountains. In arid regions MARPAT desert is best.
Northern Illinois
M90/DPM/Multicam Tropic for spring/summer, really depends on terrain
For winter/fall regular multicam
M05 variations would also work
>>30391494
Too dark. Even though the woods are really, really dark it's still just too much. Flecktarn is too dark, aswell.
Was thinking marpat would be the best
Minnesota - Plains camo (tan/brown) and any green forest camo, depends on where you are.
>>30391088
PA here as well. wearing 2 different camo (ex. flecktarn jacket and multicam pants) works pretty well.
>>30391767
Indeed, browner trousers and a greener top is a pretty good combo.
Here I have woodland Marpat ILBE, Multicam boonie hat, coyote tan Carhartt pants and a dark grey hoodie. Pic was taken in early spring before greenery exploded all over everything.
>>30391479
I'm in southern KY, and I really like mil-tecs version of digital flora. Its got the perfect balance of light and dark.
>>30391100
Wore Multicam out south of Tucson, that or of course 6 Color desert is best.
>>30390750
>eastern Washington
>woodland marpat
Most of its fine but I sure as hell don't live in a place that woodland marpat works. Too much light dirt and sagebrush. Multicam has been okay. Ace is not complete trash in the winter or around sagebrush.
>>30392069
This would be a lot better and still satisfy your inner Ivan.
>>30390949
>that filter
multimeme tropic is trash
>>30391479
I use m81 woodland as im closer to the eastern side and there are a fuck ton of dense forests. stands out a lot especially during fall/winter but i stick to evergreens to balance it out
>>30392566
>>30392069
Nice, I think digital flora would work pretty well during summer here.
>>30390720
This a good buy? Anybody know as to the quality? I wasn't aware that anyone was using smocks outside of the Russians with their Gorkas.
Speaking of, how does this thing compare to a Gorka-E by Sposn or the equivalent from Splav?
Made by Teesar.
For central Oregon, Atacs fg, rhodesian brushstroke, and partizan m all work really well. Multicam isn't a bad choice either.
>>30393209
You first
What is peoples obsession with Flecktarn? I'm not hating on it I just think it looks silly and doesn't really seem to blend in that well.
This is gonna sound real mall ninja.
Black, it can blend into most darker colored areas.
Also
>Night fighting best fighting
>>30393272
>wearing black
>at night
>or ever
>>30393272
Black is too dark, creates a nice solid silhouette, it also tends to shine like a motherfucker under IR.
Multitarn and alpenflage is great for North Georgia.
>>30393246
It's cheap, readily available, and comfy.
It's like the Nugget of camos.
>>30392383
>Washington state East of the Cascades is so dry it's nearly a fucking desert. I was at Yakima Proving grounds in August and it was nothing but brown grass and barely any green.
>>30392711
Partizan-M by SPOSN is also good, and has a reversible side that blends into autumn environments. IMO, Digi Flora is like OD Green made pretty, it looks like a blob of green less than 15 ft away.
>>30392601
Poor Fag spotted
How many dicks would I have to suck to get ahold of some surplus M84?
>>30393543
Not many
I live in NW Ohio/SE Michigan and so far the only option I can think of is olive drab or woodland, what say you guys?
>>30390720
> California
> New York
> New Jersey
> Massachusetts
> Illinois
> Delaware
> Connecticut
Concord-Lakes region NH here
DPM, Woodland/etc, Partizan, Wz 93 and Serbian Tiger would work good here. Anything with darker greens and greys/dark colors with a not overly noisy stroke pattern should work here
Anyone have better ideas?
>>30392752
is it made by mil-tec? If so, don't do it. You should get the original smock made by Leo Köhler.
I got mine from tacwrk.
>>30390720
florida is marpat right? i'm not on crack here?
>>30390913
post more proofs that it works.
because really it looks like shit. Dirty ACU and Flecktarn look like they would do much better.
>>30393246
Its cheap, and Nat Soc wanna-bes get it beacuse 'm-muh germanz.'
oh, and did I mention because its cheap?
>>30393272
midnight blue, dark grays, dark browns, dark greens.
never outright black
>>30390720
Change eastern WA from green marpat to desert marpat.
>>30394141
>and Nat Soc wanna-bes get it beacuse 'm-muh germanz.'
I think it has more to do with the fact that it looks sexy as hell. That's why I bought it at least (plus it works in my area, of course)
Oregon Coast. More upcoming. Ground is either red from needles or mossy. Recommendations?
>>30394269
>>30394269
Gotta get past the spam filter.
>>30394269
Shalom, spam filter.
>>30394269
It gets dark as shit under the trees, even in the day. I've snuck up on people wearing only a dark gray hoodie.
>>30394269
Stay away from Portland and college towns and Oregon is nothing but rednecks, fishermen, loggers, and of course wetbacks (but Trump will take care of that). Definitely visit at least once in your life.
flecktarn is a garbage meme camo that is useless outside of fall in the US, one of the multicam flavors, and DPM are the best depending on the region
fight me.
>>30394269
Pull in at a rest stop on Highway 101 and walk 30 feet into the woods. This is what you will see.
>>30394395
Or places like eastern NC/SC where its a fuckton of pine forests
>>30394395
>The US is all one environment
come on now
>>30394413
i think multicam is good for midwest/most of NE, DPM is great for PNW, MARPAT for florida, multicam arid for the plains/desert regions. woodland is too dark for most of the US, ATACS is ok, flecktarn is shit. tbqh solids work fine almost all the time.
>>30394416
>reading comprehension
>>30394437
>>30394437
Woodland and Fleck works pretty damn good here.
Flecktarn is solid as a deep woods pattern. It's too dark for greenery, grass, and tree lines, but it works well as a floor camo in dry and tree-dominated forests like Appalachia and deep-south pine forests.
I wear mine for squirrel hunting mostly.
NE Ohio here.
CADPAT for Summer, maybe Multicam Tropic, but only if it's heavily wooded snd green
Multicam for Spring and Fall or the fields and swamps in Summer
White in winter
Flecktarn is decent Spring through Fall
A lot depends on where in the state and the season.
Virginia, for example, is mostly rolling hills in piedmont territory with groups of forests, turning into mountains, then valley and more mountains.
But in winter it's very brown and sparse, along with snowfall. Spring and summer are incredibly green and dense. Fall is extremely multicolored.
And it's like that for most of the states in the south/eastern region, so...yeah. I don't know what my point is. I guess we're just going by summer?
>>30390720
In Virginia ATACS FG is pretty good in spring/summer, more than multicam. ATACS AU if fall/winter when there is no snow.
>>30390720
Western Oklahoma is correct. Flecktarn, Alpenflage, or ERDL needed for Eastern and central Oklahoma, especially in Spring.
>>30391350
You should try ATACS FG, it looks like it would blend well.
![autumn-in-west-virginia-steve-stuller[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eSmO2Ys.jpg "autumn-in-west-virginia-steve-stuller[1].jpg")
>>30394675
ATACS AU is far too tan for Virginia winter and especially fall. VA is super multicolored in fall and very brown in winter.
![fall-autumn-foliage-seneca-creek-trail[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5e0jzN1.jpg "fall-autumn-foliage-seneca-creek-trail[1].jpg")
>>30394739
What's the best for Northern Ontario? For reference our terrain and flora are here similar to northern Michigan.
![1420360589_s_0[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PARnkgc.jpg "1420360589_s_0[1].jpg")
>>30394675
>>30394739
>>30394746
I would do German Autumn Oak. Sorry for small pic.
DPM is decent in maine, atleast from what I've seen. idk
>>30390921
I'm probably south of you. 805 here.
I've found plain FDE to work best except for the 2 weeks we have green in mid spring. Add a bit of grass or whatever in any molle you have and your are god damn invisable. Granted I've only been looking at this the last few years when we've been in super drought.
>>30394789
That would work spectacular for fall, It gets very brown here once the leafs fall.
>>30394449
>implying flecktarn isn't good for places outside of Autumn
>>30391324
agreed
multicam effective practically everywhere in Ga
>>30394848
It sucks, I think I'm just going to go with a spring/summer camo pattern, a fall camo pattern, and a winter jacket with a winter camo pattern (since I stand hunt during gun season in the fields, no need for camo pants since my legs are hidden).
>>30394848
Chinese type 03 plateau, or "tibet-tarn" also looks like a great pattern for fall/early winter. Unfortunately it's incredibly hard to come by and the repros that were made were made out of shitty weak ripstop material
>>30394848
pic for reference
>>30393468
The old one is all green, but the newer ones have a different detailed color scheme
![rgc2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9h1vZx6.jpg "rgc2[1].jpg")
>>30395054
>>30394655
I see what you're trying to say
Moral of the story is that there's no catchall, and everyone should tailor their gear depending on their needs, since everywhere is different at any part of year.
>>30395119
nice
>>30393754
SE MI here. If you have a problem with either of those, you'd have the same problem with any other pattern.
One nice thing about OD is that you can wear it in town and not look like a nut job. I work at an office and I have OD bdu trousers in my regular rotation. Nobody has even looked sideways at me for it. That would not fly a day with a pattern.
>>30394755
OD, Woodland, Multicam, anything green and brown. If it really is like the UP, you can wear fucking red and just lie down and shoot under the ferns and thimbleberries in alot of places.
>>30392752
>>30393932
Get an arktis smock, it's gr8
>>30391473
>In dark forest, Multicam fails
I think that's why multicam tropic is in the picture.
Also,
>>30391473
>In dark forest, Multicam fails
>light grass or brown fields, MARPAT fails
>et cetera
>implying that OD is more versatile for different environments than multicam
C'mon, olive drab is an outdated solution to camo. Seriously, you like it because it has some nostalgic value and that's okay. It's not a better multi-terrain pattern than multicam, multiland, all-terrain tiger, etc. You must understand this right? You don't honestly think that olive drab is better than patterns for camo do you?
>>30391473
>in light grass or brown fields, MARPAT fails
Wrongo. Bongo.
Why lie about shit on the internet?
>>30395396
that looks pretty bad fampai
>>30395405
If by bad you mean better than any single other woodland pattern in a tan dominant environment, I'm right there with ya.
>>30390720
anyone have one of these maps but for Europe?
>>30395426
>yurop
kys fAm
>>30395355
Not the anon you replied to, but regarding OD: I don't know that it's nostalgic as much as it's not blatantly military anymore. It has already been stated that different camo is best for different situations in this thread. If you were going to get multiple patterns anyway, why not throw in mossy oak, wetland, RealTree and all the other (non-blaze orange) hunting patterns?
I like the solids; OD, Coyote, FDE, whatever analogs you can find in "normie" clothes. because I can wear them all day every day and not have some vegan hipster try to tell me I'm living my life wrong.
Also, I envy the ones that can get innawoods at will. If shit happened here, it'd be a strange mix of urban and grassland. (If anyone tells you Detroit is "coming back", ask them where outside of downtown.)
>>30395426
>Europe
Sorry senpai, /k/exit
>>30395420
They also have tan gear which makes a difference
>>30390720
Flecktarn is great in wa
>>30395487
replying to myself. sorry.
I should point out that I am in fact, in an urban/suburban area and my view would be different on what's in my closet if I lived a couple hours north
>>30395405
>Hurr looks pretty bad fampi
>if I can see the camouflage wearer from 10 ft away the camo is shit
More proof that the most ignorant of a subject always have the most certainty in their opinions on it.
>>30393456
Scablands, crazy landscape. Moving east from the sound it goes City, foothills, Cascades, foothills, farmland, desert, Idaho
UCP is really god damn good in a lot of Idaho. I need to find my UCP stuff and go take pictures. You can basically vanish in the dry grass and sagebrush.
>>30391479
I live near Sevierville and use Tigerstripe. It's gud shit.
>>30395487
>If you were going to get multiple patterns anyway, why not throw in mossy oak, wetland, RealTree and all the other (non-blaze orange) hunting patterns?
I don't understand how this is an argument for OD.
>I like the solids because I can wear them all day every day and not have some vegan hipster try to tell me I'm living my life wrong
I do understand how this is an argument for OD.
This guy: >>30391473 claimed that marpat and multicam "failed" in different environments. The implication there is that OD would not have. I (correctly) stated that patterns in general are absolutely superior for concealment and camouflage in nature. Would I choose olive drab over 3-color desert in the jungle? Yes. Would I choose ANY other green dominant woodland pattern over OD? Yes and yes. It's a matter of fact that patterns not only blend in, they break up shape as well.
As far as the looking like a normie thing, yeah I get it. Power to you.
>>30395588
looks like multicam would work better there than UCP, to be honest.
east of the cascades needs to be a desert
>>30390720
>upper peninsula of Michigan
>flecktarn instead of CADPAT
no.
>>30395628
hey, I hear ya. Carry on.
>>30395463
rude af
![multicam_test_2[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5zrcYW6.jpg "multicam_test_2[2].jpg")
>>30395588
I don't doubt you at all, but I'm kinda with >>30395631. Every pic that I see UCP working in, MC doesn't fare much worse. Plus, it's more versatile.
>>30393246
Where I'm from you become invisible in the bushes.
>>30395631
UCP is largely made up of the colors of the dry grass and sagebrush, garbage damn near everywhere else but it really does work.
Why I got it to begin with. Also why I stopped airshitting. Bunch of people got UCP expecting to be shooting at each other in the high desert areas like this and instead every fucking game was in woods because the guys running it all have woodlandy shit.
>>30395688
Multicam is more versatile but UCP might as well have been made for southern Idaho. I really need to go out and take "spot the man" pictures with a bunch of patterns.
What do you guys think of multicam arid?
>>30395903
I'm sure it's great for what it's designed for. It probably excels in arid environments but is less versatile than straight up multicam.
>>30395903
Good desert pattern. Just like a lot of others.
OP here, I'll list everything up tomorrow and post an update. I'll make a new thread if this dies.
>>30390720
NY'er here. NY is pretty varied but I find digital woodland works pretty decently most of the year especially in fall, the worst being spring and anywhere where there is a lot of bright bush. For that, some lighter color od would work great with some other green's mixed in. M81 is also decent and best in fall woodland. Multicam is also pretty amazing in the twilight hours during fall. I remember walking around with my multicam ball cap around a field of grass and seeing a guy have to take a double take to see if half my head was missing. It's too yellow for summer though.
I bought flecktarn because of this map and I have to wonder why it's show to cover so much. I find that it's actually far too dark and the colors are not quite right for NY woods except in woodland that basically is the German forest which isn't that common.
>>30395903
Honestly desert patterns are kinda pointless to develop further. I feel like as long as you have a khaki tan base and some darker brows here and there, it's good. Desert Marpat has kinda been the pinnacle of this.
>>30390720
Minnesota has so many varying landscapes it's impossible
you've got deep pine forest which works well with realtree to lush green which works with woodland or M90
>>30390776
I bought 3 yards to make into a blanket
I should buy more
>>30395487
I feel the best combo for being discreet and still having good camo ability if you need it is to wear a solid bottom and a camo top. Nowadays camo is a lot more acceptable to wear as fashion so why not?
You all might laugh, but East German Rain Drop camo works really well in Central Florida.
>>30396278
The east coast should be m81/Marpat tbhfam
>>30390769
Pretty much Swiss camo for fall then...?
>>30390750
>cannot speak for the west.
I can.
SoCal fag here.
>Multicam arid, Atacs AU and various forms of tan work best.
Woodland is appropriate in small areas, not more than a few miles wide. These areas could better be serviced by Multicam.
Mountain and desert areas bump right against each other.
>carry plenty of water, friends.
The real question is what's the best color for rifle furniture?
I still think black is the best color
>>30397351
Yeah definitely, except for some reason FDE on a SCAR is way better.
>>30394395
i don't fight with the mentally impaired
>>30390949
What bag/camelback is that?
>>30390720
>Western Montana and Eastern Montana have same camo
Shit camo shirt disgarded.
Yo im sorry but
http://www.realtree.com/camo-guide
u guys realize real tree is the best camo there is?
>>30397731
Why doesn't the military use it?
>>30397731
You mean ASAT right?
>>30397351
OD or Foliage green out of the usual selection. Personally I'd like a color called oak.
>>30390960
works in san francisco too, might have to lose the red thong though, skin tone seems to be a better blend there
>>30396702
It does work surprisingly well in a number of places but more due to color than pattern, since the pattern isn't visible unless you're 20m from someone.
>>30394899
>look mom, I still cant read
>>30397564
typical flecktarn fag response
>hurr well ur retarded
>haha got eem
>>30393899
What's your problem with Delaware?
I think you should factor in nylon colors. In North GA, the most effective combo I've found is a Multicam base with Ranger Green kit. It's more effective that full Multicam or full Ranger Green either one. The area I live in has a similar color pattern to Multicam, but the Ranger Green gives it a darker tone more congruent with the North GA mountain woods. Similarly, I'd figure that in the Plains area, it may be better to run a Multicam kit and Coyote Tan kit. IMO it kinda gives an overall wash to everything. In the southwest, you have desert with some greenery, so a DCU camo base with OD or Ranger Green kit might really give you the wash/tone that you need where all tan might be too much.
>>30394395
(You)
also,
>thinking you can apply your shit opinions on good camo to an entire nation
Fleck is pretty damn good here in oklahoma. At least in the spring and fall.
>>30398316
hey look more people who cant read
>flecktarn fags get so assmad they cant read past the part in a sentence where someone hates on their precious meme camo
>anyone who disagrees with me is "baiting"
For the northern east coast in new England and surrounding states such as NY and Pennsylvania Finnish M05 and russian jagel camo is by far the best camo for any temperate climate.
>>30397351
Blue green and babypoop brown applied with a sock
>>30397731
fooling a durr =/= bamboozling a person who sees in more than 5 colors
Flecktarn is best for like 5/6 of Alabama year round.
>>30393754
>>30394755
>>30393754
Consider flektarn and MARPAT, they work very well for me in the summer and the bordering half of the spring.
Multicam woodland works quite well when all the vegetation dries out in the fall and just after the snow melts in spring.
German snow camo like picrelated works well in the winter when the heavy snowfall covers the ground all the way through the beginning of the melt because it is two sided (pure white and splotched) and is loose enouogh to wear over your favorite winter clothes and covers them well even if they aren't camouflaged (unless it gets wet and see through, that is)
I actually did a test where I laid out OD, USGI woodland, ACU, MARPAT, Flektarn,and Woodland Multicam all less than 100 yards from my back porch in a field (with very minor camouflaging effort in placing them next to and in the shadows of floura they looked similar to) and had some family and friends try to spot them. The results were quite uniform in their adherence to this trend:
First to last spotted: ACU, OD, USGI woodland, Multicam, Flektarn, MARPAT.
Take the results of this as you will, it is just a single instance of testing during a single time of the year but the test subjects included some fairly experienced hunters and woodsmen as well as some city folk and I think the results are fairly representative of the patterns' general effectiveness during early summer.
Location is SE michigan, btw.
>>30398731
multicam is best year round camo for MI, flecktarn good for fall, what you have in your pic is best for winter
I'm really surprised MARPAT was spotted last, I've always thought it too dark for MI
>>30398362
Cadpat would be pretty good too. I wish I could get my hands on some. Idk if any of the repro stuff is decent either.
>>30398347
>useless outside of fall in the US
>...depending on region
So you generalize the nation, then say it depends on region? That's contradicting yourself.
Also
>unironically using "meme gun", "meme camo", etc
>still using inferior military runoff
I bet you think USPS is better than UPS too.
>>30397731
>u guys realize real tree is the best camo there is?
It is excellent camo if you know exactly the type of tree you're climbing up into every time you take your stand. It is significantly less good if you need one set of clothes to blend in to underbrush, foliage, wetland, dense forests, crops, etc. and you anticipate moving between those areas before you have a chance to change clothes.
Mossy Oak and Realtree are good for hunters because most hunters intimately know their stalking grounds and can plan their wardrobe to match their chosen stand/hunting patterns very well, and they generally don't move around much while they are hunting... Not in the same way one moves around a lot while marching or while going innawoods for anything other than fudd shit at least.
I hunt in mossy oak stuff and it blends into the leaves around my stand quite well but I'll tell you, it doesn't blend nearly as well as something like Multicam or MARPAT in the other types of terrain I have to cross to get to my stand (long grasses, wetland, and soybean fields)
>>30398812
no, you're just retarded and cant infer meaning from a sentence
>flecktarn sucks
>using one of the versions of multicam or DPM is better depending on the region
see >>30394437
stay retarded
>>30398785
The reason MARPAT was spotted last was that the area around my house is a wetland preserve and there's a lot of dark soft mud in what parts of the soil aren't totally sandy. The MARPAT was placed in some of that dark soil in the shadow of a small pine. It probably had the best hiding place, though it was clearly still in plain sight. Most people had to break out the binos to spot the multicam/flektarn/MARPAT.
I do agree with you, however, that Multicam is the best year round, but that's like saying a Crown Victoria is the best police vehicle all around, it does a lot of things pretty well but if you want to get a specific task done, you can almost guarantee there's a better way to get the job done than the crown vic no matter what the job is.
My apologies for the shitty analogy, btw.
>>30398255
> http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/politics/2016/06/21/gun-background-check/86211686/
I put that in there to see if anyone would notice.
>>30398858
nah the analogy was good. I figure its best to have a jack of all trades camo because if you're covering ground you want something that is at least functional in any environment you might enter. DPM and MARPAT are kickass for wet, lush areas like you described so that makes sense.
MI has a lot of brown, sandy colored areas, most of our trees are a sort of grey/tan color which is why I'm a fan of multicam. Also, the ground is usually light brown from all the dead leaves so its nice to have a relatively light camo pattern.
>>30398855
Okay, that's their opinion. I live in Oklahoma and Fleck is pretty good here. I don't even particularly like Fleck, I highly prefer Alpenflage and ERDL. I just think you're a colossal faggot.
>>30390720
nobody ever notices black-on-black in Chicago
>>30398880
I literally said its has its place but isnt the best choice for 25% of the US like the map were discussing claims. You're just assmad because not everyone likes your meme camo. leave the flecktarn for milsurp general autists.
>i..i dont even like flecktarn
sure buddy. I actually explained why certain camos work better than others and you're just saying
>nuh uh! it works i swear! YOURE the faggot
summer is fun.
So the consensus here seems to be that multicam works well everywhere...
I have an excel spreadsheet with everything, now I just gotta apply it to the map.
>>30398909
not everywhere, its not dark enough for wet regions. I guess different iterations of multicam are better for each region ie. arid for plains deserts, tropic for FL, PNW, standard multicam for more woodland/temperate regions
i also dont think its always the best, just the jack of all trades, master of none.
>>30390720
Southeast PA:
Danish Flecktarn is the tits is summer. For spring and early fall, Flecktarn and Romanian M90 work well.
As for winter and late fall, you can't go wrong with Alpenflage and Austrian pea dot
>>30398899
>if you disagree with me, you're a summerfag!
>if flecktarn works for you, you're a summerfag!
>if you use a camo I don't like, you're a summerfag!
stop trying.
>>30398817
>redneck gucci
ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS UNLESS SITTING STILL IN A TREE STAND.
Also
>falling for the tree camo meme
Deer aren't that smart senpai.
>>30398891
Flecktarn was designed for deep woods with dominate canopies, and it works pretty well in that niche. The problem is when it gets hit by light or has a light backdrop, it goes to dogshit because it's too dark. It sucks in treelines, fields, lit thickets of brush. But when your backdrop is greenery in shade, logs, rocks, and dead foliage it's almost exceptional. It's a nice niche camo, but it's no where near versatile enough for the map to say to use it for the whole eastern US.
Good example. Backdrop is lit greenery, it's dogshit, entirely too dark.
>>30398100
>look mom, I'm a faggot who can't even entertain the idea that maybe flecktarn works great for people in certain areas!
>waah! Why are people using a camo I don't like??!!
>STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE!
>>30399054
Move it a few feet back and a few feet to the left, where it's in shade in front of a log. It's breddy good. Most greener camos would be too bright.
Hanging off a log, backdrop is a lit treeline, it's too dark.
>>30399054
GA falls under Flectarn by that map and GA, AL, TN, and SC seriously look like that maybe one month out of the year. Usually light green, browns, and tan, and some grey. Rarely a deep saturated green. Which is once again why I do Multicam with a Ranger Green kit.
>>30399076
Hanging off the same log, but viewed from downhill, back drop is the mountainside. It blends alot better.
>>30391210
You have to go back
>>30398877
>>30399078
Like this. This area looks like the South East all the way to FL, which becomes quite tropical. Where is this pic?
>>30394409
Fucking Endor, man...
>>30399096
Nevermind. I saw.
>>30399078
Like I said in the first post, it's not near versatile enough to be considered good for everything in the east coast. Honestly, Multicam would be the closest thing to a good year-round pattern in anywhere except the rainforests in the Pacific NW and the deserts and scrub in the Southwest.
But fleck has its uses.
>>30399110
It was given to Krauts who were gonna fight a likely static and defensive battle against the Soviets in the forests of central Germany, and for that it would probably work pretty well.
It's a good hunting camo too because it blends so well into tree trunks and the floor.
>>30399078
>one month out of the year
You're fucking retarded
>>30394409
Used to live in far north Cali. Same shit it's fucking awesome for exploring. All the abandoned logging equipment and copper mines. I just wear multicam bottoms and an darker shirt
>>30399039
>I cant formulate an argument
>I actually got mad about being called a summerfag instead of trying to make a coherent argument about why one camo is better than another
top kek m8, kys summerfag
>>30399155
I bet you buy your Flecktarn at Walmart, fanboy
>>30390720
NE utah here, the current camo is okay for some of the dryer parts like antelope island, but if you're innamountains, a lot of places have darker foliage than that.
I'm going innawoods this evening, ill take a look and maybe some pictures, depending on time of day
>>30393543
Not as many as you would in the red army.
Look for stuff with a 2004 tag on ebay, it goes for much cheaper because it was misprinted. It doesn't effect anything serious, as it is only slight running of the black into the green.
Don't pay more than 35-40 for a 2004 jacket. International ebay sites are your best bet.
>>30395426
Generally you can just go with the camouflage used by your country and it'll work. Especially the nordic countries have some great patterns
>>30390782
I live in Westport and I have to say Trop Flecktarn is perfect for our area especially this time of year, and bundeswehr winter camo works great in winter
Georgia - Pencott Greenzone
>>30397351
Plum
>>30399356
Jokes on you I use m81 :^)
>>30395426
Belgian jigsaw.
>>30390720
PNW... most people think it is forested... majority of it actually looks like this.....
Pic of Rangers at Yakima Training Center.
Easter Washinton, Idaho, Oregon is Afghanistanesque high mountain desert with exception of river beds and coast.
Miami
Hawaiian tourist clothing
>>30398909
Multicam is shit in AL.
>>30399078
I take fleck into the wood regularly in North and Central Alabama and it's perfect as long as there's not snow on the ground
How well would Slovakian camo work in the Northeast?
>>30390720
Wz.2010>Fleck
>>30399956
>Alabama
>snow on the ground
Yeah once every 11 years you're going to just be shit out of luck for 6 hours
>>30390720
> western SoCal
the multicam indicated would work, or 6 color US desert camouflage/chocolate chip
