As you may not know, the people of Great Britain left the EU last night. We are no longer bound by european laws. In your opinion, do you think we're going to see a better gun scene here in bongland after the brexit?
>>30386996
Maybe if UKIP forms a government with Farage. He thinks the practical ban on handguns is ridiculous.
>>30385807
There's already a thread
Just saw the news, rushed over here to make a post about it.
OP beat me.
Get your fucking guns back Britain.
>God damn, makes me happy to see some pro freedom sentiment in the world today. Maybe it wont be so bad.
>>30386996
>better gun scene
Fughet about it.
Brits let one nation (US) have their guns, look what happened. The queen won't stand the inconvenience.
That is if they can afford guns lmao
>>30386996
You are gong to get a lot of guns, because we are going to show up for your resources.
Oh, and to free you from the immigrants or some shit.
-USA
Hey bongs what gun was used in that false flag to wipe out that MP?
Was it home made? flintlock ? what was it?
>>30386996
Fuck no. The English government put those laws into place, you can't blame that on the EU.
>>30387584
>implying speculation isn't driving a temporary downturn due to uncertainty
>implying the pound isn't a strong currency model and the UK economy isn't strong with traditional and contemporary economic strengths and measures
Please, I understand /k/ may be low on the spectrum of educated boards but please learn some economics before you make your little "meme-lols." Even in my undergraduate degree we knew how to dissect market economies and the EU project.
t.post-doc UMich
>>30386996
Lots of countries in EU have way better gun laws than UK.
UK has shit gun laws because their govt and majority if the population is anti-gun as fuck. This has nothing to do with EU.
>>30387688
You make a good point but you don't have to be such a dick about it.
Go have a coffee and a cigarette this morning to calm down before you come and post here in the mornings.
>>30387708
This.
UK has been the shithole of EU for years, and they've always played their own game. I'd like to say good riddance, but I fear this Brexit shit will only result a major conflict in Europe later on.
>>30386996
Unlikely. UK has far worse gun laws than pretty much any other European country.
>>30387752
>UK has been the shithole of EU for years
No need to be salty, Germany.
>>30387755
You missed the mark by around 5000 kilometers.
You need to be one super delusional bong to not know how UK's been THE most violent EU country, and also one of the most "culturally enriched" ones for years. And since we're on /k/, let's not forget one of the strictest and idiotic gun laws out there.
>>30387763
Kek, okay.
>>30386996
This, the country that ran ads about turning knives over? Nah.
Your natural right to defend yourself died years ago, and wont be making a comeback now.
>>30387659
would appreciate an answer you silly billies.
>>30387784
IIRC it was a home made flintlock or something
>>30387669
This.
Actually this could well go another way around. Without British anti-gun -lobby and votes from their MPs EU will probably not tighten their control over guns and in the best case scenario EU might even shift to more relaxed gun laws than what they have now. Far fetch I know but It's a possibility.
>>30387788
NIce!
>>30387659
Some home made single shot breech loader or possibly sawed off shotgun according to eyewitness.
Unlikely that it was flintlock since he fired it again just 3 or 4 seconds later.
>>30387912
thanks. the false flag didn't work thank god.
>>30387927
The brits have had their share of political murders and national tragedies not to let such emotions affect their voting behavior.
>>30387708
Czech Republic has gun laws that are on part with Zwitserland's. It's a good country for guns.
>>30388024
Tell me more about the Czech Republic
>>30388379
It is a gorgeous country with all the modern conveniences and all that fun shit. Look up Prague, as European a city as any built, absolutely stunning. The women there are notoriously beautiful, if you are in the US military and stationed in Germany you stay in Germany to party, go to France to see all its pretty buildings, and go to the Czech Republic to see it's pretty girls.
Really places like the Czech Republic, are the last not shitty, overbuilt, overcrowded, dirty nasty places left in Europe.
Every American who travels to Europe says "I was so surprised at how NICE Poland/Czech Republic/Hungary was, my absolute favorite city in all of Europe was definitely Prague/Warsaw/Budapest etc."
And their gun laws are pretty good, a shall issue gun license that you get similar to a driver's license with testing and such, BUT self defense is a totally legitimate reason for gun ownership and concealed carry for self defense is fully allowed if you have the gun license. If America ever DID get put on its knees and fucked by the liberals, I pray we keep something as good as what the Czechs have.
>>30388451
>Look up Prague, as European a city as any built, absolutely stunning.
Sadly overflowing with tourists these days
>>30387688
>Even in my undergraduate degree
No, that invalidates your argument.
>>30387789
More like this.
>>30388451
How's the crime rate there? And how hard is it to learn the language?
>>30388451
>It is a gorgeous country with all the modern conveniences and all that fun shit. Look up Prague, as European a city as any built, absolutely stunning. The women there are notoriously beautiful, if you are in the US military and stationed in Germany you stay in Germany to party, go to France to see all its pretty buildings, and go to the Czech Republic to see it's pretty girls.
While there are tons shitty commie blocks and public buildings from commie era.... there are tons of nice old architecture in Prague, Budapest and other major eastern European cities.
>Really places like the Czech Republic, are the last not shitty, overbuilt, overcrowded, dirty nasty places left in Europe.
Generally I kinda agree and disagree with you.
Ex-commie countries are interesting mix of stuff properly fixed from commie and immediate post-commie era decay, yet there are parts that have shoddily fixed, left as it was and bunch new buildings that occasionally look totally out of place. Especially if you move out of tourist traps and main streets of bigger cities. Smaller towns aren't as nice as in most of western Europe, but at same time those are far more genuine places, no immigrants and everything is more than a bit cheaper than in western Europe, at least used to be.
I probably have bit longer perspective here as I've been in ex-commie countries every few years since late 90's and seen how few places have changed over years. Now it's pretty hard for me to dive bit deeper into backbacking as normie shit limiting possibility to go for unplanned two month excursions with IRL friends to see shit and meet folk we know from interwebz.
>>30386996
DEATH TO CORPORATISM AND GLOBALISM!
NATIONALISM AND CAPITALISM FOREVER!
>>30389264
>CORPORATISM
>CAPITALISM
One is just a symptom of the other.
>>30388728
The homicide rate is on par with France and other EU countries at around 1 for a 100k.
>>30387575
Except that they didn't. Learn to history anon.
>>30387006
UK should still keep pistols banned, it just makes sense.
>>30393772
No anon.
This is a bait free zone.
>>30386996
Yes
>>30393772
Of course it does. If pistols were legal imagine how much difficulty Muslims would have raping people if people could actually arm themselves? and that anon would be racist.
>>30393884
Yeah, such a reassuring, tantalizing prospect, hopping out to rape someone who might just pull a revolver on you.
>>30387688
>all those butthurt remainers looking at the Sterling value dropping and shrieking SEE SEE WE TOLD YOU SO EVERYTHING'S FUCKED FOREVER NOW
>>30386996
Maybe if some of those liberals make good on their threats to leave and/or kill themselves.
>>30386996
Maybe if England got rid of Scotland and Northern Ireland and Farage formed a government and dominated Parliament you might see this happen. Maybe.
Did England sign on as a signatory to the UN Small Arms Treaty? Because that would hurt your efforts.
>>30394022
We can only dream that they all koolaid themselves at a large get together.
>>30388728
They have one of the lowest homicide rates in Europe. Shooting is the third biggest sport there. I love Czechia and I want my girlfriend to be Czech!
>>30393884
imagine if muslims got their hands on firearms?
>>30388557
>England fucks off
>The rest of the world improves
kek
>>30394103
They'll continue on being rapists? Maybe that would serve as an incentive for the UK to properly arms its cops and stop dressing them as meter maids.
>>30386996
nah. Britain's gun laws are entirely homegrown.
Austria is in the EU too and we have way more relaxed gun laws.
>>30394103
I'd rather see a system where law abiding citizens were not forcibly disarmed. I'd rather be armed and have a chance to resist than be forced to face down a criminal who doesn't care about breaking the law and who may well be armed himself because he doesn't care about breaking laws.
Two scenarios:
1. The criminals and the people are armed
2. The criminals are armed, but the people are not
Which sounds like a better idea to you?
>>30394103
Didn't the guy who beheaded a British soldier with a machete also have an illegally imported revolver?
Not like the laws stopped that guy from illegally getting a handgun/beheading a solder in the middle of the street in broad daylight
>>30386996
Oh look, another Brexiter attributing things to leaving the EU that either have nothing to do with it or aren't going to change.
You stupid fucks have ruined it and you've ruined it for NO REASON.
>>30387688
>t. umich
any suggestions on decent outdoor ranges in the area that dont have literally hitler tier ROs?
>>30395520
>The criminals are armed, but the people are not
Liberal logic says this is better, because then only the people will be shot, not the criminals as well.
>>30395665
Illegally importing a revolver into bongland? That's just weird. But I guess you can at least count on finding the ammo for them easily.
>>30395734
EXACTLY!!
>>30386996
These laws were made by your own gov. not the union, so i wuold doubt that
>>30388024
Czech gun laws are better than the Swiss.
>>30389264
>CORPORATISM isn't
>CAPITALISM
kek
>>30386996
>do you think we're going to see a better gun scene here in bongland after the brexit?
>>30386996
>As you may not know, the people of Great Britain left the EU last night.
No, it didn't. It didn't even invoke Article 50 yet. You'll be EU members for a few more years to come.
>We are no longer bound by european laws. In your opinion, do you think we're going to see a better gun scene here in bongland after the brexit?
The main driving force behind stricter gun laws in the EU were British MEPs.
So the question should be reversed, will EU get more lenient gun laws now that the most rabid anti-gunners are leaving?
The current proposal to enforce stricter gun laws after the recent Paris attacks were fielded by British MEPs. I hope these die out now...
>>30395520
>Two scenarios:
1. The criminals and the people are armed
2. The criminals are armed, but the people are not
Which sounds like a better idea to you?
You're an idiot who has not lived in the uk.
>>30395712
yup.
>>30393923
>looking at the Sterling value dropping
and the pound losing 10% and your GDP going from 10th largest to 11th in 5 hours time
>>30388451
t. pavel slavkovich
>>30388379
shame you can't go to czech or estonia or finland anymore to enjoy good funs.
Enjoy independent UK.
>>30397764
>I mean, are people really going to get this if we don't poorly photoshop the faces, AND add the ukip logo and EU flag every slide, AND make a shitty pun at the end?
>>30397803
>no fun allowed
this is you
>>30386996
>do you think we're going to see a better gun scene here in bongland after the brexit?
You're talking bollocks mate. None of our firearm laws are or ever have been mandated by the EU. The vast majority of the general populace doesn't want anyone to have any kind of gun ever. The silver spoon brigade doesn't want people to have guns as they want to keep their exclusive club just to themselves. No government minister will ever stand up to ease gun laws as they don't want to be the one the media deem responsible for a shooting, or when we have Dunblane v2. The police don't want people having access to firearms because of the cost for administering the regulations, plus the fact that it'd take about six weeks for Peckham to turn in to 1980's Beirut.
It's a nice little dream, but there's less of us that want it than there are white men in Brixton.
Let me absolutely 100% assure you that while the Conservatives and Labour remain the 2 dominant parties in the UK, gun laws will NOT be relaxed. UKIP would need to make serious gains all over the country to be able to realistically form a coalition with the conservatives and I doubt they'd prioritise firearms against other things.
I don't like it as much as any of you do, but Brexit will not affect Britain's firearm laws, it will only affect any gun laws in this country if Scotland becomes independent, in which case I can see that ugly fucking cunt leftist shithead first minister of ours outright banning firearms.
>>30387659
I read an article saying that he had made it based on a design in a "neo-nazis: how make guns" book.
But was it the EU laws that prevented them to have guns or what?
>>30398119
>But was it the EU laws that prevented them to have guns or what?
LOLNOPE
>>30390615
Stay in school kid
>>30397476
No they aren't.
The only good thing about Czech gun laws are CC permits which are easier to get compared to Swiss CC permits that are hard to get depending on the place you live. Everything else is shit compared to Swiss gun laws.
>>30398119
Kek
Brits have been the strongest anti-gun force within the EU
>>30386996
I really hope Britons will take their guns back from Brussels, that's where those evil EU bastards locked them up.
And i'm glad the Brits have now the rights to eat other stuff besides that disgusting Pudding shit the EU forced them to eat. Hell, they can now even finally stop with the CCTV shit, another direct order from Brussels!
>>30386996
>Better gun laws in the uk after brexit?
Leave voters, everyone.
>>30386996
The UK hasn't left the EU, and won't for many months/years, if at all.
>>30387763
Holy fuck, and they are so fucking blatant with that agenda. Endophobes around me shamelessly rave and preach about how culturey india(/pakistan) is.
>>30393772
this. Too many Muslims in the uk
>>30386996
holy shit he's serious
>>30386996
You'll escape the push to turn dewats into giant blocks of metal, along with the push to strictly regulate antiques.
Oh, and your Semi-auto shotguns (especially the military looking ones) will be safe from the anti-semi brigade in the EU.
Then there's Scotland's obsession with airguns. When they leave, that will go with them.
But overall, changes will be incremental at best.
>>30398260
>The only good thing about Czech gun laws are CC permits which are easier to get compared to Swiss CC permits that are hard to get depending on the place you live. Everything else is shit compared to Swiss gun laws.
I hope you aren't Swiss, because this post reeks of ignorance. Ordinary Swiss citizens are not allowed CC, period.
A never-used may-issue CC licensing system might as well be described as "no CC".
PS. We have CC in Finland too, but the amount of average joes with such permits can be counted on two hands.
PSS. Britain has CC too, if we're going by your ridiculous definitions.
>>30400536
>Oh, and your Semi-auto shotguns (especially the military looking ones) will be safe from the anti-semi brigade in the EU.
Bong MEP:s were the principal driving force behind strict EU gun legislation, idiot.
>Then there's Scotland's obsession with airguns. When they leave, that will go with them.
Scotland isn't relevant on the national stage. England & Wales are solely to blame for shit gun laws in the UK.
>>30400592
Maybe you should read up on the subject.
The driving force behind the antique/flintlock regulations were the Dutch, and the military style semi ban was a Franco-German push (with substantial Dutch backing).
Read this for a quick overview:
https://www.all4shooters.com/en/Shooting/law/EU-gun-ban-GENVAL-IMCO-LIBE-Commission-Council-JURI-update/
Funnily enough, the UK tended to a more moderate position.
>Scotland
I was just pointing out the ridiculous airgun regulations they are enforcing.
>>30400640
>military style semi ban was a Franco-German push
Well then, how come "military style" rifles are legal now in Germany since 2003? There's more than 6000 AR-15s being sold in Germany every year in the private sector
>>30400640
>>30400665
Oh, i forgot that they're also legal in France. No idea how many are sold there, tho.
So how could it have been a "franco-german" push?
>>30400640
>and assumed to be backed by a strong French-German common position, is rumored
so it's basically nothing more than a rumor.
>>30400665
I don't know how come, I just know that there is a joint Franco-German position against them in the Euro Parliament.
The British position, on the other hand,
>The draft report from IMCO President, MEP Vicky Ford, is rumored to be on the edge of being shot down for being “too much pro-gun”.
She's will likely be kicked out and replaced with a more anti-gun MEP due to Brexit.
And from the German side:
>In other news, an important part of the group of the Socialists and Democrats (S&D) at the European Parliament seems to be taking the side of the gun grabbers. Two S&D MEPs in particular − MEP Sylvia-Yvonne Kaufmann (Germany) and MEP Sergio Cofferati (Italy) − have been reported to be approaching all S&D MEPs one by one to try and persuade them to shoot Vicky Ford’s draft report down and vote in favour of the Commission’s proposals. This would mean that all of the Commission’s senseless restrictions, including those on replicas and deactivated guns, which had been cast aside by Vicky Ford’s report, would be back at the top!
http://firearms-united.com/2016/04/19/eu-gun-ban-still-danger/
Again, do some background reading if you want to find out more about where the push is coming from. The UK seemed content to keep its gun laws to itself and let other nations do there own thing. Other MEPs had different positions.
>>30400701
>>30400684
Again, do some reading:
>UK Tory MEP Vicky Ford, who is steering the legislation through Parliament and has tabled several amendments, has branded the Commission's proposals as "poorly drafted and impractical".
>She said the move will have "unintended consequences" for museum owners and collectors, sporting organisations and groups such as the Countryside Alliance in the UK.
And from the Dutch, French and Germans:
>On Friday, Dutch Justice Minister Ard van der Steur said the result will mean that "the risk of legal firearms finding their way to the illegal market is reduced."
>Emily Haber, secretary of state in Germany's Interior Ministry, said, "We have set standards, and there will now be no more weapons that can be traded without being registered."
>French interior minister Bernard Cazeneuve said the agreement "will allow the security of citizens to be improved thanks to a stronger legal framework and the increased traceability of firearms at the European level."
https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/articles/news/parliament-gears-debate-new-eu-firearms-legislation
>>30400740
>French interior minister Bernard Cazeneuve said the agreement "will allow the security of citizens to be improved thanks to a stronger legal framework and the increased traceability of firearms at the European level."
>security is improved by robbing people of the means of self-defense
Marxist logic, everybody.
America, please invade and bang some sense into the heads of our mindless politicians.
>>30386996
Probably not, but on friday I went through over 200 rounds celebrating, the fixed a new leupold to my LMT.
We got a little independence so it only felt right to do the most American thing possible.
>>30386996
nope
>>30400824
Someone nuke the fucking UK
Good for the rest of the Europe, those fucking cucks are out of the European administration
>>30400824
>>30402053
>oh no, what will we do without the fucking brits, who were the ones who blocked by far the most EU decisions and just took benefits without actually contributing much
>>30400824
>>30402053
>>30402087
>>30402053
>>30402087
>>30402104
>>30402087
>just took benefits without actually contributing much
Is that a joke or are you really that misinformed
>>30402129
The Remain camp is full of 21 year olds, what do you think?
>>30402129
Took beneftis in terms of trade and economics, i'm aware they paid more money than they received. They had a special status tho, and didn't actually accept much the EU decided. But, for example, they always received 66% of the difference between the money they paid and received. Because of their special status.
In fact, like i posted, they are the member who by far blocked the most votings in Brussels.
>>30402147
The leave camp is full of old people who voted leave because of "muh empire" and "muh 19th century", and stupid, poor white trash who voted leave because they believed the stories of the EU being responsible for all the brown people.
>>30402201
Maybe because they're a huge fucking economy and helped the EU massively through membership and preferential trade.
Moron.
>>30402147
I'm also saying fuck the UK, it's good those idiots are gone. Now, the EU can actually do something, without those fucking Britcucks crying for special treatment and blocking everything.
And we might even get better gun laws, without the fucking British anti-gun cucks.
>>30402220
>implying the membership didn't help them even more than it helped the other members in those terms
Moron.
>>30402229
The UK is the only country in western Europe where you can carry a handgun for self defence and use it to kill someone you consider a threat.
It's also the only country in the entire world where you can sue the police if they prevent you from carrying and you end up being harmed or attacked.
>>30402249
That's a fucking lie you idiot. Again.
Also, Germany has a full stand your ground law. CC is also possible unter certain circumstances. Again.
Stop spreading idiotic lies.
>>30402216
Does the Commonwealth nations have any sort of immigration agreement?
If so, leaving the EU will do nothing to stop Pakistanis/Indians from migrating.
Though it will stop the Polish.
>>30402272
Leaving the EU will not magically erase the British colonial history, so no. There will still be Arabs, Africans, Carribeans, Pakis and Indians from Commonwealth realms coming.
Fucking leave voters are fucking retarded.
The only change will be, less white, well educated Europeans. Besides that, they only fucked their economics. Idiots.
yfw Canada has the laxest gun laws behind the US in all the Anglosphere.
>>30386996
>As you may not know, the people of Great Britain left the EU last night.
you didn't. You made the pound drop and lost 350 billion in 2 hours after results were opened though. In addition of lowering your credit rating and fucking the young people over. Good job.
>We are no longer bound by european laws
You are.
>In your opinion, do you think we're going to see a better gun scene here in bongland after the brexit?
No, seeing as UK is the only country in europe where you need to be 18 to buy a butterknife. EU will get better gun laws, you'll go straight to shit and have garbage economy for a long while.
Way to go chavs and white trash. People like you voting for something that sounded good rather than actually learning to read or bothering to get off the welfare are the reason country is trash, not the EU.
But thanks for pulling your retarded politiciants out of the council. Now if germany would leave.
>>30402249
kek
>>30402291
>Leaving the EU will not magically erase the British colonial history, so no. There will still be Arabs, Africans, Carribeans, Pakis and Indians from Commonwealth realms coming.
I suppose if immigration from all commonwealth countries was limited too, so Pakistan was allowed the same number of people as from Australia, it could immigration while at the same time being fair.
Australians should stay in Australia, anyways.
>>30393772
It wouldn't be bad if they were as hard to get as rifles are.
>>30402321
>>30402318
Holy shit how much are they paying you?
>>30402476
i love those reactions to actual facts
"u gettin paid"
"u cuck"
"u slave"
"muh freedoms"
"muh independency"
"muh racemixing"
that's it. that's all the empty buzzwords stupid idiots like you can spit. no content, just retardation. same with turkroaches if anyone is talking against the government, "u are kurd, who pay you?"
idiocracy irl, that's what the whole brexit thing is.
>>30402523
May your chains be light, cuck.
>>30402476
I'm just following the shitstorm on social media and news and enjoying all this shit.
Like the rampant googling of "EU" as soon as the results and first effects hit.
And how farage backpedalled harder than a french cycling team on his NHS claim.
Most leave voters are just retards like OP who don't know what they did
>>30402534
Thanks for this excellent example for what i just posted.
>muh freedoms, u cuck
Content? Nothing. Only a retard would think a common parliament of 28 neighbouring nations, who decide about supranational issues, would be "slavery" or a matter of liberty at all. In your logic, you're also a slave of your own government. Especially in the UK, the European country that takes the most influence in it's citizens' lifes.
Like i said, it's Idiocracy IRL.
>>30402565
>Most leave voters are just retards like OP who don't know what they did
thankfully the new economy will hit them the hardest. Good thing they can't get into higher education otherwise they'd be more fucked by the rampant increase of higher education soon to follow
I don't see that happening OP, I live in N.Ireland which is redneck tier compared to England and even here there is a relatively small gun culture with no push to improve laws.
Ah well, I've got my carry licence, my normal licence and Irish citizenship, so I've got a pretty sweet deal
>>30402249
>>30395712
go to bed cameron, concentrate on your post politics career
>>30402565
>Like the rampant googling of "EU" as soon as the results and first effects hit.
This is to be expected. I would be disappointed if 'Donald Trump' doesn't top the US search suggestions when he becomes president. It's the people getting informed on issues that will be affecting them in the coming months and years.
>And how farage backpedalled harder than a french cycling team on his NHS claim.
That claim was not made by Farage, nor was it even a promise. Were UKIP in power they would be in a position to make such promises but we currently have a conservative government who did not pledge £350 million per week to the NHS were we to withdraw from the EU. Neither did UKIP, for that matter.
>Most leave voters are just retards like OP who don't know what they did
Now this is just petty. Regardless of their motivations the British people have voted to leave an overbearing globalist oligopoly before it's too late. Their actions should be applauded by all lovers of liberty and democracy.
For the record, UKIP did promise liberalization of UK gun laws, including the return of semi autos and pistols, in their 2015 manifesto. That is the kind of promise that one is actually accountable to.
>>30402571
Why exactly are you so angry?
If you really think it's gonna be such a huge detriment to them for the next few years then let it happen to them, stop being such a petulant child over things you have no control over.
Incidentally, I look forward to the EU Army, I'm sure the countries in the EU opposed to that will be listened to.
>>30402523
>>30402565
The loss of investment money is easily recovered over time.
The models that projected Brexit to be a economically bad event were created by those who believed in, and who were heavily invested in, the success of the EU and tradeblocs therein.
The subsequent whining we are experiencing comes from selfish investors angry that their portfolios took a dive, and not citizens with their nations health in mind.
You, sir(s), are either shills or misguided losers.
>>30402664
I'm angry because i fucking hate stupid people, and all i see are stupid people partying about fucking retarded stuff that has nothing to do with reality. They think now the immigration will stop, they'll be a big empire again, stuff like that. They have no fucking clue what's actually going to happen, they have no idea how the EU works. All they did was fuck their economy, and they're partying like crazy about it. I read stuff like "OMG WE'RE FREE", and even "THIS IS A HISTORIC DAY FOR THE WHOLE WORLD". For the Brits, it's going to be one of those moments in history, that historians will say "that's where they fucked up" about.
Personally, as an European, i'm glad the Brits are gone. They were only making it impossible for the EU to change anything. I believe in the EU as a concept, but a lot of changes have to happen. Without the Brits, that might be possible.
Not to forget about the possibility of better gun laws for the rest of the EU.
>>30402688
>t. clueless shitposting faggot
>implying it's only the "loss of investment money"
>>30402688
>and for my next trick, i'll show you how i make "muh empire, who's paying you u cuck?" sound somehow intelligent
>>30402688
1. Promise of £350m a week going back to the NHS.... "That was a mistake" - Nigel Farage
2. More immigrants now able to enter UK sneakily, because no European policing and information given to us from now on.
3. Pound settles at around $1.35 per £1 when it was $1.50 per £1. Meaning businesses who export out of the UK lose 10% on sales, and importers pay 10% more.
4. People start to realise the majority of goods sold in the UK are mostly imported or parts are imported and finally crafted in the UK, which will result in increase of pricing, like tobacco and cigarettes due to the tobacco being imported.
5. Others shitting their pants when they thought it would be life as per usual, now realising the fuckwittery they have placed the entire UK into, £1.5 trn gone from markets, pensions and ISAs.
6. Leave voters mass search google "What is the EU" and claim "I voted leave and didn't think my vote would have mattered" or "I voted leave and now I think I did the wrong thing."
7. Prospect of losing Scotland and Northern Ireland, which will result in losses of natural resources, tourism income, northern North Sea oil fields in our Scottish territory.
8. Prospect of losing European owned businesses in the UK such as Volkswagen, Fiat, etc. More unemployment.
9. UK frantically in the mean time trying to use clause 50 to re-establish trade opportunities, will find they will pay even more on top of the 10% as spoke of earlier.
10. UK government borrowing more to pay everything else.
>>30402760
This copy pasta is appearing everywhere, what the fuck is with this?
>>30402720
What are you talking about? Britain was the last bastion of democracy in the EU. Things are going to change now, for sure. You're going to be forced, by secret ballot of unelected officials, into a federal superstate. You're going to be forced, BASBUO, into a single reserve bank. You're going to be forced, BASBUO, into a single treasury. You're going to be forced, BASBUO, into a single army. Your nation's statehood, culture, military and identity are going to be systematically merged into 'Europe'. Your rights to democracy, representation and self-determination are going to be quashed in the name of 'security' and 'integration'. Your, unelected, president (Jean-Claude Juncker has already expressed his opinions on nation statehood and national identity and they aren't favourable. He's already announced that the, elected, Polish government will not be listened to in the European 'parliament' because they don't align with his personal political views. This is not the union you chose but it is the one that will be given to you. You never really had a choice.
>>30402768
It's the actual brexit results.
>>30402720
Have fun getting cucked by ackbars
>>30402768
Also, it's pretty fucking stupid. Even without the EU tourists can still enter. It's not like the tourist market will disappear. I mean fuck Holden is owned by GM. The arguments that osmehow britian will fall apart without the EU are usually fucking retarded.
>>30402793
>Brexit results
>Nearly every fucking dot point is copy-pasted either here or /pol/
I'm legitimately starting to think this is a intentional disinformation post skewerting information in favour of remain.
>>30402793
It's a collection of lies, opinions and scaremongering.
>>30402792
Dude, do you think the EU is the fucking almighty devil? It's a fucking parliament, it's not more or less potent than your national parliament. It's not forcing anything up to anyone.
And of course the fucking Polacks won't be listened to, they refused to do ANYTHING the EU told them - while taking a fuckload of money from it. Still.
>>30388024
Yeah they are pretty good.
I'm form Poalnd, laws are pretty godo too and I often make trips to Chech Republic to buy black powder and crossbows.
>>30402813
>It's not like the tourist market will disappear
No, but it will be extremly weakened without Scotland and N Ireland. Also England would be less attractive, as it's going to be more complicated to travel there.
Shit has nothing to do with "desinformation", that's what the leave baiters do. It's facts.
>>30402729
>>30402742
>Trying to act like the divide between the top 10%/1% and the bottom 90% isn't entirely based around trading that has been occurring over the last 40 years
>Trying to act like the massive hemorrhage of manufacturing is totally not happening
>Trying to act like massive hemorrhage of intellectual property into China due to profiteering Chief Executive teams isn't happening
>Trying to ignore the fact that American good aren't even reaching foreign markets, yet foreign goods are sucking money out of the States
O, right, because allowing Obabo and his cronies to keep these trading fiasco going is totally going to be the right move for the States and UK.
Good on the Britons for choosing their nation over the globalists and elites. Good on 'em.
>>30402883
kek
that's some fucked up, retarded shit. but it's a nicea idea.
>>30402822
>It's a fucking parliament, it's not more or less potent than your national parliament.
Right now it isn't. When they get their own army, a monopoly on force being the defining feature of a tyrannical state, they will be significantly more potent.
None of that matters though because it's not a democratic parliament. The people of the countries bound to the EU do not have a say in the European parliament. The elected officials from those member states do not propose laws and may not strike proposals, from the unelected European Commission. They are also not permitted to call for no confidence votes on the officials of the European Commission. Once an EU president is in power they're there for keeps. Not that they need to worry about that because MEPs don't have a say in who gets to be president either. They're presented with one person to vote for. This is how democracy in China and North Korea works.
The economy can go to hell for all I care, though I believe it will not. Liberty, democracy and the rule of law are worth any price.
>>30402852
It's funny how "Facts" only seem to be "Facts" when you want them to be, otherwise they're patrarchial/white male bigotry against minorities.
I think it is the most sincere form of irony, all these references to idocracy while you've got all these supposed cunts having no interest in what working class people have to say and berating intelligence completely forgetting that yesterday they were lapping up cum from their "Communist" sociology teacher.
>>30402900
>otherwise they're patrarchial/white male bigotry against minorities
lol, what? i love how everyone who's not sharing your opinion is a commie, that's fucking great. like in the damn 50s.
>>30402852
Well talks of an Irish border referendum have already been quashed. As much as N. Ireland loves the EU the people there are still mostly loyal to the UK.
As for Scotland it would be political suicide to call for another independence referendum two years after the last one failed (by a wider margin than the Eu referendum, might I remind you). Spain and Belgium's threats of EU membership veto still stand and the whole thing reeks of opportunism which gives more ammunition to the loyalist sect.
>>30402917
>it would be political suicide to call for another independence referendum two years after the last one failed
Wrong. The last one failed by a few percent, mainly because the EU refused EU membership to an independent Scotland. The new one will succeed.
>>30402932
>The last one failed by a few percent, mainly because the EU refused EU membership to an independent Scotland
Which is still a major factor. None of the countries that threatened to veto membership have publicly rescinded their threats.
>>30402952
Dude, read the fucking news. The EU parliament said it wants the Scots to vote before Cameron is off.
Are you even serious? almost sounds like bait
>>30402852
Even then, you've got this shit in your "Facts"
1. Promise of £350m a week going back to the NHS.... "That was a mistake" - Nigel Farage
First point is pretty much a misinterpreted campaign message, great job.
2. More immigrants now able to enter UK sneakily, because no European policing and information given to us from now on.
Based upon what?
4. People start to realise the majority of goods sold in the UK are mostly imported or parts are imported and finally crafted in the UK, which will result in increase of pricing, like tobacco and cigarettes due to the tobacco being imported.
I see leave quite like the decision of australia switching from a mining economy to other facets. A needed change.
>6. Leave voters mass search google "What is the EU" and claim "I voted leave and didn't think my vote would have mattered" or "I voted leave and now I think I did the wrong thing."
Quite literally basing your argument from what i assume to be a news article, ironic coming from the same people having a go at "Leavers" for being sheep.
>7. Prospect of losing Scotland and Northern Ireland, which will result in losses of natural resources, tourism income, northern North Sea oil fields in our Scottish territory.
Assumption of them even leaving
>8. Prospect of losing European owned businesses in the UK such as Volkswagen, Fiat, etc. More unemployment.
Why in the fuck would they do that, who thought up this copy pasta. I see this shit on /pol/ and here. I'm getting sick of it.
>>30402913
I'm not saying they are a communist, because if they really we're they'd give a shit about the average worker.
And what I exampled earlier on as satire can be seen in reality. It is far from uncommon for cunts alike you to totally ignore shit like rotherham (I fucking bet you'll do it, prove my point) as if it was somehow MAINSTREAM MEDIA PUSHING CONSERVATIVE BIAS (The same media which has a outright boner for liberal ideals? Right.)
>>30402964
Have you got a link? I was unaware of this development.
>>30402998
not in English actually.
http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2016-06/eu-referendum-brexit-abstimmung-live
>>30402760
Counterpoints:
The UK will see a decrease in immigration as the migrants will no longer bother to reach the UK now that the border will be enforced and it's nature as an island means that the ability to cross borders will be massively hampered. Also policing and information will continue to be exchanged to prevent a tit-for-tat response.
Exports will rise as a weak pound increases demand for exports.
Market value is reacting normally to any form of shock, primed itself to a devaluation by operating under the assumption that Brexit could not occur, and at this point only immediate term affects are being seen.
Unless you can conclusively link Leave votes with google searches of "What is the EU?" your entire argument is a very wordy ad hominem and a handful of anecdotes.
Scotland and Northern Ireland leaving would have the exact same issues as Britain leaving the EU, only they'd be compounded by the fact that neither has their own currency or economic system.
While the prospect of losing European owned business is real, those same businesses have to consider the sunk costs and opportunity costs of leaving the UK and setting up elsewhere, plus the possibility of incentives and beneficial terms in upcoming renegotiations.
The entire point of clause 50 is to allow time re-establish agreements and determining a new status between the EU and nations that have left it.
>>30403071
>The UK will see a decrease in immigration as the migrants will no longer bother to reach the UK now that the border will be enforced and it's nature as an island means that the ability to cross borders will be massively hampered. Also policing and information will continue to be exchanged to prevent a tit-for-tat response.
Dude, that's retarded. The UK have never been a part of Schengen, your border won't be enforced more or less than before.
Also, the only immigrants who will have more trouble to come, are white, well educated Europeans. Commonwealth brown people will still be able to take a fucking plane to London.
>Exports will rise as a weak pound increases demand for exports
Uh.. like.. what? What exports will rise, that haven't reached the max yet? And, most important, how the fuck did the EU block those mysterious UK exports?
>Market value is reacting normally to any form of shock, primed itself to a devaluation by operating under the assumption that Brexit could not occur, and at this point only immediate term affects are being seen.
It's not only the shock, the GBP will sink lower and stay low, as there will be new duties coming up, together with troubles for investors and trade partners.
What will make the UK more attractive to tourists, tho. We'll get more Pudding for less €.
>Scotland and Northern Ireland leaving would have the exact same issues as Britain leaving the EU, only they'd be compounded by the fact that neither has their own currency or economic system.
That also a very weird logic. Of course they won't have the same issues, they'll just join the EU and also the Euro currency zone.
>those same businesses have to consider the sunk costs and opportunity costs of leaving the UK and setting up elsewhere, plus the possibility of incentives and beneficial terms in upcoming renegotiations.
That's just your guess, nothing more. The financial sector will move to Frankfurt by 100%. Just imagine what's connected to that alone.
>>30403012
Admittedly I used Google translate but nowhere there does it even seem to imply that the European parliament is calling for an immediate Scottish independence referendum. It appears to merely report on the fact that some are calling for another referendum.
Fat chance. When the Bongs joined the EU they had been cucked over guns for ages.
>>30403216
>>30403222
It's true though. The EU's new proposed gun bans are draconian but we've already had it worse in the UK for years.
>>30403271
the new proposed gun bans are lead by uk politcans
>all the ultra nationalists think suddenly things will be magically how they want them after brexit
Fucking wankers, btw enjoy the recession
>>30389264
>I'm a delusional AnCap who thinks Corporations aren't a key part of Capitalism
>>30403294
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom — go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom — go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom — go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.
>>30403177
Ok, sorry. Actually, i've been following that live-ticker the whole day on my phone, and i read about the demand of a scottish referendum before cameron is off somewhere. i'm 100% sure actually. right now, i can't find it myself. so let's just ignore it.
>>30403316
see
>>30402523
no matter if it's riddles, images, quotes, whatever. it's retarded bullshit, and you don't know shit about politics or the EU.
>Content? Nothing. Only a retard would think a common parliament of 28 neighbouring nations, who decide about supranational issues, would be "slavery" or a matter of liberty at all. In your logic, you're also a slave of your own government. Especially in the UK, the European country that takes the most influence in it's citizens' lifes.
>>30403330
Fair enough. It wouldn't surprise me to be honest. The EU doesn't have as much leverage as it thought it would so they're going to push anything they can.
>>30403348
Being ruled by people you didn't elect is slavery. Might I remind you, o ye of supreme European parliamentary knowledge, that MEPs do not introduce laws, nor elect the officials that do. It's banana republic at best and old-fashioned oligarchy at worst.
>>30403381
stupid bs.
well then, who's sending those people to Brussels?
>>30403412
What people?
The MEPs, who do not hold any real power, are elected by the people.
The European Commission officials, who hold the power both de facto and de jure, are brought in by themselves. This is the definition of oligarchy.
Every time you support the European Parliament model you are supporting oligarchy. This is fact. They admit it themselves.
>>30403441
>MEPs having no power
>European parliament members having all of it
lol, are you living in fucking bizarro world? it's the exact opposite u moron, tell me how the EU forced the UK to do FUCKING ANYTHING in the last years. Protip, they didn't.
>>30403139
The migrants people were complaining about weren't the Commonwealth ones, mostly the refugees and Eastern Europeans.
A cornerstone of Chinese economic policy is keeping the value of the renminbi low to make their exported goods competitive. It's the same principle.
The value of the currency itself is less important than what will happen to inflation.
Tourism also tends to favor a lower valued currency.
There are actually rules, regulations, and requirements for joining the EU and the Eurozone which would need to be met before Scotland or Northern Ireland could get in. They'd be looking at years before before they could become members and they'd face opposition from Spain.
>>30403441
>>30403466
Somehow i confused MEP for MP. Well but it's still BS, as the commission officials aren't allmighty, and the MEPs aren't without power.
And after all, the EU is fucking powerless anyways. All it's good for are trade and economic benefits for it's members. But that's a huge fucking point.
>>30403466
Common agricultural policy.
Common fisheries policy.
Let's see what's on the cards now:
>Common military policy
>Common financial policy
But that's not even what I'm talking about. I'm saying the mechanisms of the European parliament are explicitly antidemocratic and fit the definition of oligarchy far better than democracy.
>>30403381
Unfortunately, this is true. While the idea of a benevolent dictator is appealing, it's unlikely to occur given the power of narrow- and moneyed-interests. The stupid electorate or a wholly corrupt oligarchy, pick your poison.
>>30403552
>All it's good for are trade and economic benefits for Germany
ftfy
>>30403537
>The migrants people were complaining about weren't the Commonwealth ones, mostly the refugees and Eastern Europeans.
Right, because the UK took millions of refugees. And right, it's the EU who forced the UK gov to take them. They decided themselves. Poland is an EU member, they didn't take a single refugee.
>A cornerstone of Chinese economic policy is keeping the value of the renminbi low to make their exported goods competitive. It's the same principle.
Great idea, follow the ways of the great leader. Learning from China, equals learning to be victorious.
It's a totally different country, with different boundaries, different international connections, different goods, different political systems, and so on, and so on. Your argument is invalid and stupid.
>Tourism also tends to favor a lower valued currency
Are you really trying to tell me that there won't be massive losses in the tourist sector for the UK if Scotland leaves? Really?
And it's not like tourists would travel to England instead, just because it's a bit cheaper. And it's not even said for sure that it will be that much cheaper, as the UK are pretty expensive right now anyways, compared to most continental european countries.
>There are actually rules, regulations, and requirements for joining the EU and the Eurozone which would need to be met before Scotland or Northern Ireland could get in. They'd be looking at years before before they could become members and they'd face opposition from Spain
>Spain
Why?
Also, the brexit will take at least 2 years to be done formally, and 5 more years to be done practically. So time is no argument when it comes to an independent scotland becoming an EU member.
And of course, if the brits really leave, the EU will welcome Scotland into the EU with a fucking blowjob.
>>30403552
>Commissioners
>Not almighty
Hey, give Juncker time to work, okay? He's not a miracle worker.
>>30403607
>implying Germany isn't by far the biggest economy in the EU, and doesn't pay by far the most money
>>30403628
Why would the EU want Scotland? They'd be a huge drain on the EU.
>>30403628
>Why?
Because the EU is a ramshackle mess of bureaucracy.
Look at how long it's taken ANY small country to join.
>>30403569
I never said the EU is perfect. Ofc it's not, first of all those idiots get paid way too much.
But i still believe in the idea of an unified Europe. The EU just has to be reformed.
Without the Brits, that will be possible by the way. They were blocking a lot, more than anyone else.
What are laws even like in UK for self-defense?
Could you buy some meme sword or spear from coldsteel and stab a burglar with it at least?
>>30403663
You really think a system set up to favour a few bureaucrats is going to reform itself to favour the people?
Actually what you think doesn't really matter - you don't have a say in it.
>>30403663
A united Europe is possible, and while the EU represents the best hope of that, none of us will live to see it.
>>30403650
Why would they?
>>30403656
I meant, why would Spain oppose.
but ofc every bullshit in the eu takes ages, brexit will take 7 years, like i posted.
>>30403686
>why would Spain oppose.
Fuck knows, they're probably salty over Gibraltar. They opposed them in 2014 and haven't rescinded that threat.
>>30403712
You mean, Spain would oppose a Scottish EU membership because of Gibraltar? What?
Damn its going to feel good in 10 years when this thinly veiled attempt to wipe away the nations of Europe fails for good.
>>30403729
I was taking the piss. I don't know why Spain publicly promised to veto an independent Scottish EU membership, nobody but the Spanish government knows, but they did. And they haven't changed their tune since.
>>30403741
that's the kind of logic i don't understand. how does the EU touch national identities? that's fucking retarded.
>>30403755
By forcing nations to accept foreigners that don't absorb local customs, and by removing the borders that define said nations.
>>30403778
>without checkpoints between Strasbourg and Stuttgart, Germany and France are the same
what
>>30403830
To an ISIS milita- poor refugee they both make excellent targets.
>>30403778
On this website, the "nationalists" are obviously /pol/.
But based on the way they post, they don't seem to mind multicultural globalism so long its only whites.
Yeah, they are dumb.
>>30403628
>>30403686
>>30403712
The Basque separatist movement. Spain also wants fishing rights to Scottish fisheries which would complicate matters too.
>>30403844
you're changing subjects fast, your stupid logic yet remains the same.
>implying the missing checkpoints between Strasbourg and Stuttgart have anything to do with ISIS militants
Europe's borders are secured very good. It's a damn fortress. It has been held open for too long, mistakes have been made. They don't make these mistakes anymore. You can't get into Europe without anyone noticing or checking who you are.
Before you reply with utter bullshit or cuck-tier one word posts, try and proof me wrong.
>>30403890
The Basque movement is almost dead actually, i think you're talking about the Catalans.
But i really think, if Scotland wants to join because the UK left, Spain might change it's point.
>>30403901
The day before the vote a whole lot of people thought Remain would win, and here we are. Truth is we don't know what would happen if Scotland left the UK and tried to join the EU. I'm not even sure an independent Scotland would meet the requirements to do so. Though I guess it would be possible for the EU to just let them in out of spite.
We haven't left yet, it'll be at least 2 years before we're out fully.
Bongistan is officially a fun-free zone, the laws are never going to get changed even if UKIP somehow get in (and even then only Farage said once that he thinks the laws should be relaxed, there's nothing in the UKIP manifesto about it), and literally everyone I speak to is massively anti-gun.
>Britain already has worse gun laws then the EU standard
>EU no longer can tell them what to do
>Britain will suddenly loosen gun laws
HAHAHAHAHAHAH, no. Brexit didn't install a pro freedom leadership in the country it literally just told the EU they weren't the boss anymore. Britain will still have a TV license, spork registering, CCTV filmed, nogunz government, Germany just won't be able to make them accept in all the refugees they can't afford. Britain will now be in charge of importing the Muslims they want not Germany.
>>30404015
and since when does Germany force the UK to accept refugees?
>>30404038
Since Germany started giving them citizenship in the EU allowing them to settle wherever their little hearts desire
>>30404057
>>30404057
Not a single refugee received German citizenship yet. What the fuck are you talking about?
They get registered and are allowed to stay for a few months or years if the situation in their countries won't get better, do you have any idea how fucking difficult it is to get the German citizenship? I'm from Germany, i grew up with guys who's parents still don't have it, even though they've been living here for decades
>>30404057
There is no such thing as a EU citizensip, there is only citizenship of a EU member state. And a refugee status =/= citizenship status.
>>30387688
>I'm legitimately starting to think this is a intentional disinformation
Who first smelt it, dealt it. Disinformation is a common tactic among populists, in this case the leave camp.
Ukip told people the UK would pay 3.x billion pound to the EU, in reality it's 2.x. And due to the UK's special status, they receive almost the half back. So, they're only paying a little more than 1 billion. Ukip said they'd put those 3.x in the health care, idiots believed them and voted leave.
After that, Farage said "no, no, that was wrong". And it wasn't him who said it. And Ukip doesn't have that much power. And all that blabla. But the point is, they made people believe it would be true. They were lying. That's a common tactic among populists, and this time it worked out.
>>30386996
>>30386996
Pic related is all you're going to get from leaving.
Oi m8, you retarded britbong idiots really thought you'd get better gun laws by leaving the EU? You better don't tell that to anyone if you don't want people to know how stupid you are
>>30403412
It's simple anon.
The only body in the EU that can actually propose legislation is the Commission.
Now granted each country theoretically decides who to send to it but each commissioner is required to take an oath stating they will put the interests of the EU above all (including their own country). In practice the commission, like most EU bodies, is a home for failed politicians. Part of the reason the European political elite support the EU so heavily is an all but guaranteed job somewhere in that bureaucratic mess in later life.
The European Parliament merely rubber stamps laws and at best can delay something it doesn't like. Junker, for example, has explicitly mentioned the Commission either sits on laws until a favourable time or runs them through with different wording if they fail. Turnout is excessively low for the EP because most know it is just another sham and a waste of money to boot.
On a related note almost every time British MEPs have attempted to oppose EU laws (rare) they've gone through anyway. This is why talk of the UK 'losing influence' in Europe is nonsense. The British people lose nothing here. All that's lost is the retirement plan for failed politicians.
What's actually relevant is how Spain will vote. Their election is fucking today and they have been far and away the hardest hit by Brexit along with the Italians and Greeks. Concerns over separatist movements, austerity and Gibraltar are also factors.
>>30404118
Membership of an EU state automatically grants EU citizenship anon.
This includes freedom of movement.
>>30404865
well then there's still the fact that not a single refugee received German citizenship
>>30404865
so you're implying there's tons of refugees with German citizenship currently in the UK?
>>30404899
Quite possibly true (I haven't dug into the numbers and was not the original anon).
I simply telling you that that's the case with EU citizenship: it leaves you open to whatever fucktarded country decides to grant citizenship to Abdul, Mohammed and their loli-wifes.
Sweden, for obvious reasons, is more of a concern than Germany here.
As for previous fearmongering over the pound and London's stock market both are within expectations and the latter is doing better than predicted. Germany, Italy, France, Spain and, of course, Greece are doing more poorly than predicted in general with German car manufacturers notably suffering (with the exception of BMW).
The Spanish election is important because the last one failed to produce a government and, like Germany, it had a large trade surplus (also investment both ways) with the UK. This means tariffs will hurt Spain significantly.
Yet more important is the fact a party bordering on Marxist stands a fair chance of forming part of the new government. This would be poor for the Euro, obviously.
>>30404946
Just stating facts anon.
>>30403932
>I'm not even sure an independent Scotland would meet the requirements to do so. Though I guess it would be possible for the EU to just let them in out of spite.
It wouldn't meet the requirements. They had a better shot during their independence vote, as the UK was already a member, but even that would have required every EU member in agreement to have them join. Considering the economic issues that would arise from Scotland declaring independence, there is no way in hell they'd get into the Eurozone for a long time.
>>30404946
>>30404899
>>30404981
Also, if memory serves, 6 years of residence are sufficient for German citizenship if a refugee. 8 is the upper limit mostly.
Spain and Italy are 5 for refugees, Sweden 4.
France is a clusterfuck but can waive it entirely in many cases for 'legitimate' refugees.
So tl;dr it is a valid concern.
>>30405061
While I wouldn't advocate for Scottish independnce economically it would probably be better off than the majority of current EU members, certainly those in the south.
If you go into the actual numbers Scotland is, per capita, the third most prosperous region of the UK after London and the South East. Wales and NI are unsurprisingly the largest sponges.
>>30404981
Look it up, refugees have to live a minimum of 7 years in Germany to be naturalized.
>>30405112
Every source I can find says 6 minimum if a recognised (i.e. Geneva convention) refugee.
I do note the German government rather cryptically says "can be reduced to as few as six years in the case of special integration measures".
>>30386996
>We are no longer bound by european laws
Never ceases to amaze me that all the Brexiters SERIOUSLY think that every bit of legislation they dislike came from the EU, and somehow, they think they voted for some land of milk and honey where they can do whatever the fuck they want
>>30407734
Well the majority of people who voted leave to have a better life, will now slowly realize that the exact opposite will happen. There might be a second voting, next time they'll vote to stay in the EU.
>>30408176
>Well the majority of people who voted leave to have a better life, will now slowly realize that the exact opposite will happen
Might have been more useful if the silly wankers had bothered to take the time to educate themselves before hand
Conclusive proof that some things are too important to be left to muh democracy
>>30386996
>brexiters are actually this retarded
>>30402760
This first point is such shite, Farage didn't run the leave campaign, Borris did. How can UKIP promise that money will go to the NHS when they're not even in government? Fuck me you leftypol shills are utterly brainless. Nice pasta btw
>>30408227
>democracy is only fine when my side wins
Leftists ladies and gentlemen. Please go circlejerk in the huffington post comments section instead of shitting up /k/ with your utter drivel
>thinking Farage runs the leave campaign
>old people shouldn't be allowed to vote because they're raycisss!
>not understanding currency speculation
>calling others uninformed
Wew
>>30404724
>some retarded teenager on Facebook worried because she voted without being properly informed
>this is clearly representative of the whole leave campaign
>>30408697
Yes how could they? They couldn't. But they did. That's the point. And stupid ass white trash folks believed them. That's a common populist tactic.
>>30408730
Did anybody say that? Stop spilling your spaghetti m8
>>30390615
>>30397489
Bernie levels of stupid here. Do everyone a favor and never breed.
>>30403310
Also a fucking moron but you may be salvageable.
Hint: corporation != Corporatism
>>30408734
>but they did
No, the leave campaign did, you fucking dunce. Farage didn't run the leave campaign. UKIP promised extra funding to the NHS in their manifesto regardless of EU referendum results, a promise they'd only be expected to fill if they were in government.
>white trash
Oh, so you're a fucking nigger, what a surprise. If Im not here to reply it's because my uneducated, white trash ass is busy studying for his chem undergrad while you're whining about racism on tumblr and studying sociology. Fucking neck yourself.
I'm a Brit. I voted leave. I love guns.
There's not a fucking chance that we'll get the handgun ban overturned.
>>30399597
They have two years tops to ultimately decide what'll happen.
>>30408940
Nope.
They have two years AFTER article 50 is triggered.
Only the leaving government gets to trigger it and it has to be done in an unambiguous way.
>>30408765
>implying everyone who's using the term white trash is not white
>implying it's not just the standard term for uneducated, poor white people
>>30386996
Doubtful. The absurd gun laws were all the Brit's own fault, not the EU's.
That said, I'm glad the citizens of the UK found their balls again, at least when it comes to national sovereignty. Remainers can go fuck themselves. Long live the Anglosphere!
Spanish election coming up lads.
Commies might come second.
>>30403646
Per head, its the Netherlands.
In raw spending, Its France.
>>30410271
Bullshit
>>30410818
>Poland
Holy fuck those greedy bastards take a shitload of money from the EU and still won't stop talking shit about them? They even removed the European flags, how the fuck are they still in? I'd kick their fucking asses if i was Brussels
>>30410818
How do Polacks even manage to take that much more money than Greece
What a fucking shithole that place must be
>>30386996
The EU already had gun regulation less strict than those set out by the EU mandates.
Now if you were the Czech Republic you would have a point.
>>30411521
Lots of money is being invested in Poland and Slovakia because of all the members of the EU those two have had the strongest growth in the past 10 years both growing 50% at 3.9% per year. Poland just happens to be bigger in land size and in population than most of European states.
In general there is a lot of investment in the Eastern European states because they are at an interim level of economic development unlike Western Europe where many countries are already at the maximum sustainable levels.
>>30411621
Edit: Poland is actually fascinating economically because it was the only country in the EU to have economic growth in 2009, the worst year of global recession.
>>30411641
might have something to do with the incredible amount of money they take from Brussels, without actually contributing anything to Europe but migrating polacks, international criminals and brutal hooligans
>>30402852
Its like you and all the remain voters have never heard of a tourist visa, you know, like what the rest of the world does
>>30411709
It's like you don't realize a place where you need to get a visa first might be less attractive to tourists than a place where you don't actually need one
that, and a lot of other factors, like making phonecalls within the EU, paying no extra money
>>30411709
also, London won't profit from tourists in NI and Scotland anymore. And especially Scotland is by far more attractive to tourists than fucking England.
I can't wait to see the lefty meltdowns and panic attacks that would happen.
>>30411489
Poland forever
