Do any of you do push-ups in your plate carrier?
>>30374459
I'm thinking about trying it. It makes sense to be strong enough to support it.
Why not bench press?
>>30374430
I do inbetween my kipping sets and right after I post a selfie on instagram.
#crossfit #glock19 #nevergiveup #powmia #lbt #forged #battlefrog
>>30374504
That...that doesn't really help. The point of doing exercises with it on it to be able to support the weight of it on your body.
Doing the bench press with a plate carrier on doesn't really make it more difficult, as it your arms and pectorals that are handling the weight of the bar only. The carrier doesn't really factor into the equation, it'd probably just constrict movement a little.
>>30374430
It's dumb because the plates are going to reduce your ROM and make the exercise easier so it'll be kind of a wash even with the weight. Just get a fucking bench or do floor press with some weights.
>>30374551
high quality bait
>>30374551
No, the point is take your fucking plate carrier off and lift heavier weights to get stronk, this "functional fitness" meme needs to die. You wouldn't substitute plate carrier squats for barbell squats, would you? (please say no because if the answer's yes you're retarded)
>>30374551
>>30374564
I was being genuine...but I'm probably wrong as I don't work out with my plate carrier on.
If you have any experience with this, care to tell me where I fucked up?
>>30374430
are women that look like this even fertile?
>>30374591
>are women that look like this even fertile?
Would that even stop you?
>>30374430
is...is that a man?
is she wearing a lot of makeup or none at all
>>30374588
He didn't mean bench with the plate carrier on, just to bench in general. He's asking what's the point of doing body weight exercises like push ups with a plate carrier adding a few pounds when you can just go and bench and get a much better workout to build strength.
>>30374430
>push-ups in your plate carrier
desu senpai I need to just start doing pushups in general, with my fat ass. I have been doing cardio and changing my eating habits and lifestyle habits that were unhealthy.
>>30374588
why get marginal half ass results when you can get targeted, meaningful results? Bench press works the same muscles as doing a push up (for the most part). Lifting your maximum lifting weight, vs 1/2 - 3/4 your body weight.... why would you opt out of benchpress? Your muscles don't care, they need the maximum workout they can get and PC Pushups aren't it. If you're doing generaly cross fit sure, but you're still cheating yourself.
>>30374579
No, I just don't have the equipment to bench.
>>30374634
Oh...I guess it's to get used to moving around in your plate carrier and doing physical shit all day.
But yeah, adding on a few pounds just sounds like a good way to fuck up your workout.
Poe's Law and whatever. I'm a fucking retard.
>>30374648
I agree with you, it'll never be as good as targeted exercise like most weight training.
I was just trying to explain the logic of somebody who thinks it's a good idea.
>>30374669
Get some cheap ass weights or something. You don't need a real bench, you can do floor press or whatever. Or get a gym membership.
>>30374669
Go fuck up an old car or something.
Free workout equipment.
>>30374683
Yeah it does make sense to be doing high movement exercises in a plate carrier to an extent. Running, climbing, pull ups, I would think stuff like that.
Strength endurance>absolute strength when it comes to combat training
Core stability/lowerback are more important than powerlifting max rep bs
>>30374633
>she
bad news for you , son...
>>30374782
>implying these things are mutually exclusive
Having raw muscular strength is going to give you more in reserve and is going to carry over to various tasks like rucking, mechanical breaching, and fighting. So it's not unreasonable to lift lower rep ranges most of the time and hit up the high rep strength endurance stuff a couple times a week.
>>30374648
>Bench
>Biceps
>Pectorals
>Bit of triceps
>Pushups
>Biceps
>Bit of triceps
>Chest
>Core
>Back
A push up is a more fluid exercise that works more. Throw on a loaded vest and crank out 20 push ups and don't tell me you won't be feeling it.
Yeah you may be able to bench 200, but again, you work ALL your core upper strength muscles as well as the secondary muscles not typically exercised when you do a focused lift.
It also makes for better endurance training by exercising with the gear you plan on wearing.
If you want to get gearfit, start doing push ups, pull ups, squats and jogging wearing your gear. For core, go for straight P90X.
You won't get your biceps as strong than if you were to do bench, but the over all strength net gain is more worth it in the long run.
>>30374998
Yeah, tell me how many SOF guys do all their workouts in kit. Maybe you do one or two a week geared up for novelty but wearing that stuff is going to really limit exercise options and you're going to miss out on maximal strength.
>>30375018
As opposed to straight muscle strength?
Far as I know, most if not all Seals, PR and Rangers do a mix of gear body weight and targeted lifts that more focus on the core muscles by doing a mix of bench, squads, dead lifts, pull ups and weighted planks.
The muscle endurance you get from doing body weight lifts is essential to not tiring out when you're wearing gear for long periods of time. In shit like 81b, where you wear your gear every day for 6 months on deployment, you get used to it but never all that comfortable and since infantry is pretty much trucked almost everywhere they never get the endurance that special snowflakes develop.
Ultimately, you get more from training your body to handle the added weight with the constant stress than just taking repeated short stints of high stress activity.
>>30375084
>doing a mix of bench, squads, dead lifts, pull ups and weighted planks.
This is straight muscle strength though. That's like so-called powerlifter shit. And I'm okay with this.
Again workouts in kit have a point of diminishing returns. I would be happy to do them once or twice a week but I definitely don't think it's necessary if you can work the same muscles with comparable levels of resistance in similar rep ranges. For example I don't really think pull-ups in a 20lb vest is that different from pull-ups with 20lbs on a chain. Or I don't think push ups with a weight vest is meaningfully different from light weight high rep bench pressing. Or lunging with a vest on vs lunging with dumbbells in hand.
>>30374591
Hey, the 1920s called. They want their opinions on women and fitness back.
>not doing your entire workout solely using components from your load out and gear
>not curling you rifle & wrist strengthener
>not doing squats of ammo surplus ammo crates
>doing burpies in full gear and running up and down stairs
>not working your shoulders with a packed ammo tin or mosin with ammo pouches full of glorious x54r surplus for added weight
I can't be the only one...
Nobody here is physically fit. Stop deluding yourselves.
This dumb bitch would be a shitter soldier than a man and yet could kick all your asses.
>>30375384
i would be fitter, but the Army ruined my spine. years of wearing body armor, helmet, and all that ammo, water, etc
Do push ups make your ass look huge?
>>30375397
Age ruined your spine, not the army. Everyone gets a sore back as they reach middle age.
>>30375407
Squats do
>>30374430
>working out
>2016
That's why I have guns.
Your muscles won't stop a bullet and good luck trying to outrun one.
>>30375518
Making excuses is a game weak men play.
>good luck trying outrun one
Most people are actually terrible at shooting a moving target.
And odds are the guy mugging you doesn't have the money buy practice ammo or even have another mag on hand.
Running away is the best course of action when viable.
>>30375431
First world armies are terrible for grunts bodies.
All the extra shit the country can afford to give the soldier, is shit they have to carry.
and the weight only ever increases.
>>30375407
no but sweeping unsealed concrete has a surprising effect on abdominals
especially when in a corner since there is not enough room to use your legs
so you just squat a little hold your torso still and use only your arms to push forward
>>30374544
>not following Based Pat Mac and Based Derek Weida on instagram
We really ought to have more Operator Fitness threads, at the bare minimum.
>>30375336
I am so doing this on the weekend.
>>30375518
>believing that your fat lard ass will even be capable of doing something as basic as moving to some decent hard cover.
What are you going to stand around in the open shooting off rounds? That's if your body doesn't have a catastrophic heart failure because your heart rate skyrockets.
>>30375518
Looks like we've got an Apex Predator on our hands here. You'd better watch your fucking mouths, guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn3PQJ9PHLY
>>30375518
>recently read an article in which a man survived a police shooting only because of his muscle density
>mfw I can't find it anymore
>>30376026
>mfw he actually believes his body armor will stop rifle rounds
Pity he was sent to prison so we will never hear about him getting bfo by some guy with a rifle.
>>30374430
I use my PC as a weight vest for calisthenics, Yes.
>>30374430
That girl probably takes giant dumps
I bet her clit hangs like a elephant trunk
>>30374430
Sheet, brah.
My plate carrier does push-ups in a plate carrier.
Semper Lamina Tabellarius
>>30374998
>during weight training you do nothing but bench
Is that your argument? It's pretty weak.
>>30374998
>Bench
>thinking 200lb bench is impressive
>biceps getting strong from bench
>20 vest pushups being hard
all this dyel
>>30375518
>b8
>2016
C'mon, we're better than this.
>>30374430
No but I do use pack bag filled with bricks to do some warm up push ups before I go for a jog. It's pointless to gear for SHTF if you can't carry all that weight around.
>>30375319
You should look at the correlation between women's body fat and fertility. Or intense exercise and fertility. Turns out, if their body fat drops below a certain percentage they stop ovulating. If they do a lot of intensive training, e.g., marathon runners, they stop ovulating.
If you're gonna do SJW bullshit, at least try to keep up with the science. Or are you one of those gender studies majors who didn't take a STEM degree because misogyny?
>>30374591
Depends on body fat. I would guess yes in this case.
>>30374430
Just lift you butt blaster
>>30374544
>>30374591
Possibly not
>>30374504
Because it's much easier this way.
>>30374998
>lmao 200 lbs bench
dyel
>>30374579
>Functional fitness isn't a thing
>crossfit
you can cross fuckoff
>>30374430
I plank in my plate carrier. I dont have big enough arms yet to do pushups in them
I only have one ceramic plate and I'm fat, so I'd probably break it if I fell on it, so no I don't
>>30381924
You have a plate carrier and plate.
Why?
It's to keep your body safe from danger in the event of an apocalypse huh?
Because you value your life and the organs in your chest are important.
You obviously care about these things.....
So why the fuck are you fat?
You care about health enough to buy a plate carrier but not enough to drop soda and go on a run 3 times a week and count calories?
>>30381086
Take about 10% off their squirrelly dan
Fuck pushups.
Sincerely, a veteran with long arms and nerve damage.
>>30374998
>you won't get your biceps as strong than if you were to do bench
>bench
>biceps
Hmmm. Something here is telling me that you don't exercise and/or are retarded.
>Doing push ups in your plate carrier
>With $1000 plates
>Not just filling the plate holders with pebbles to customize your fitness experience
>Not attaching chains to your plate carrier to break through sticking points
>Not chaining a barbell to the back of your plate carrier for maximum strength gains
haha dyel skellies get fucked
>>30382268
Damn you sure know a lot about fitness.
Let's see a time stamped pic of your abs and huge arms bro.
I'm sure you're super buff irl.
>>30374430
>crossfit
kek
also no because my shit is ceramic and doesn't need to be unnecessary jostled around
>>30374430
>that shit form
I bet she didn't even get one rep that would count
>>30374591
I wouldn't even classify that creature as a woman at this point.
>>30374430
>snapcityfit
lol no thanks I'm trying to operate, not trying to be the best at exercising.
>>30381812
You are pathetic, even when you can do 2-3 you'll be pathetic
>>30375336
do you like having arthritis at 28? because that's exactly how you get it.
Let's play spot the retard
>>30375319
Too easy
>>30375319
>>30382664
I can do 10 in my IOTV with very little exertion and I'm not /fit/
>>30374591
if they weren't there'd be a lot less Germans around today... wait, what did they say about their declining birthrates again?
>>30382479
Literally nothing wrong with her form.
If there is, point out specifically what it is, I will then correct you and insult your intellegence.
>>30374430
No.
Pic related
Smoke weed or die.
>>30374430
>elbows out
>push-ups
pls
>>30376787
>>30374648
Are you mildly retarded? Push-ups build an entirely different kind of muscular endurance for a task that's more commonly performed. Constantly bench pressing shit tons throws huge bulky muscle onto your frame with the same results as a few hundred push-ups (which are also partially a cardio exercise if you do them properly). Unless you're a bodybuilder, bench pressing only serves to get your max bench weight higher.
>>30386029
Except your max bench weight obviously transfers to the amount of force you can exert with your pecs and triceps, which translates to some obvious uses (hitting people, breaching structures, moving heavy objects). Furthermore there are some studies that contend that maximal strength (eg: bench 5rm) is strongly correlated with muscular endurance with similar exercises (eg: push ups).
Bench pressing will not "throw huge bulky muscle onto your frame." That is simply retarded and is an obvious indication you are DYEL tier shit. The fact of the matter is that all of the popular exercise programs used in SOF involve barbell lifts, including bench press. Gym Jones, Military Athlete, SOFLETE, etc.
>>30386076
Really? You're telling me that benching and using black weight all day doesn't inflate your frame? Because you're wrong. Sticking to calisthenics and having the strength to perform a hundred plus push-ups is not generated by targeted exercises that prevent your body from building it's ability to coordinate muscular exertion.
>>30386164
What the fuck is black weight? As for inflate your frame, you're retarded. Powerlifters make weight, which means they're looking for max strength within the boundaries of their weight class. That means actual weight efficiency. Look at Richard Hawthorne for an example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkRkPigvO9Y
Dude can do this while weighing 132 lbs. Guess what, he didn't balloon up to 250lbs just because he lifted heavy. Weight is related to diet.
>Sticking to calisthenics and having the strength to perform a hundred plus push-ups is not generated by targeted exercises that prevent your body from building it's ability to coordinate muscular exertion.
You obviously don't know shit. If you ask people like Stew Smith or Rob Shaul about preparing for a military selection program (the vast majority of which will want you to knock out 90+ push ups in 2 min) they will all tell you to use weights initially to build max strength and mix in bodyweight calisthenics for movement familiarity as the selection approaches.
>>30376026
How can you be prepping for the end of the world, doing all that shit to be ready AND be a fat fuck?
Does he think that won't be an issue?
>>30374579
> He thinks Tom who can bench 3plate and squat 4 can run a mile in under 12 minutes
>>30386592
If Tom also runs, then yeah.
>>30374430
I don't play dress up and if I did it would not be for a workout.
>>30386626
Tom has no functional endurance because benching only takes a few minutes out of his day, as does squats
>>30386592
>he thinks tom can't
this is a literal reality for a lot of soldiers
being able to bench 3 pl8, squat 4pl8, and run is not that fucking complicated. There are enough guys that can hit the aforementioned lifts and run 12 min 2 milers.
>>30386673
You are retarded. Guess what, just because you squat and bench doesn't mean you can't spend time running, dumb fuck.
I journey from /fit/ to here. Congratz you guys, you just made yourselves look even dumber than the closeted homos on /fit/.
>>30386673
>only takes a few minutes
>not enough time for cardio
Suuuuuuure
