/meg/- Military Enlistment General
United States Army™: This we'll defend™ edition
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Resources:
>Armyranger.com
For Ranger info, obviously.
>http://www.sealswcc.com/
SEAL/SWCC site with videos and fitness plans and a forum
>Shadowspear.com
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.
>Professionalsoldiers.com
For all Army SF info.
>http://www.corpsman.com
For Navy Corpsman info.
>http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?115180-MARSOC-Force-Recon
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.
>http://www.uscg.org
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.
>www.defencejobs.gov.au/
For info on the Australian Defense Force, and how you can shitpost on the world stage.
>https://www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS as well
OP template
http://pastebin.com/sb5Gv1dW
Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Rx0nDuga
Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
http://strawpoll.me/6764857
Ask questions, get advice from retards on how to lie on the poly, bitch about recruiters, accuse each other of stolen valor, just keep it in this general.
Which SOF is seeing the most action these days?
What marine mos's don't require security clearance? I'd like to keep my options open incase the scummy shit I did when I was younger keeps me from getting one. They typical
>blazed it
>got in a few fights but never arrested
>looked down on most of family because of the above and wasn't born into the rich portion of it like they were.
>>30362081
Special Tactics always sees the most shit, but you'll never hear anyone acknowledge it.
>>30361577
Nice, you have the contract yet?
>>30361606
Go Navy man
>>30361932
Navy vet here, Diver is an amazing rate with even better opportunities once you are out. Its hard though man so you better be ready.
Need advice asap
Give me the red pill on 19K, 88M, 19D and 74D
The recruiters made these sound so sweet but what's the war time/peace time reality
>>30362483
No sir, Ive got another year before I can join (financial reasons), and I want to make sure I give myself enough time to train my feet and knees so I dont fuck anything up during SFAS or the Qcourse and get med dropped
>>30361877
Does anyone know if the Navy is open to prior service Army?
Age 28, Active as 19k (Tanker) and was with an MP reserve unit. Full contract finished, completely out.
>>30363078
Do actual tankers wear tanker boots? Because them shits is comfy.
>>30363226
Yup, still wear them at work, even in this heat.
>>30362541
>Recruiters made 74D sound sweet.
You may be beyond help.
>19K
Do this.
Even if you NEVER deploy, you can tell stories for the rest of your life. How many people can say they got paid to crew a tank?
>>30362889
I hear you, makes sense. Best of luck cause im in the same boat. Going for a contract right around the new fiscal year.
>>30363078
To the best of my knowledge it is. You sep with a RE1? No medical conditions? You will most likely need to apply/qualify for an undermanned rate.
I want to join.
27 y/o
Computer Engineering graduate.
Any suggestions?
>>30363259
Well one of the recruiters is Chem corps is why
19K is very interesting to me and I'm passionate about tanks and tracked vehicles but keeping other options available
>>30363302
Thought about a job/rate/mos?
Thought about a branch?
You gotta do some leg work on your own first man.
>>30363260
Yup, no medical, RE1 from active, and reserve. What's under manned atm? Anything that is half way interesting. I had a very high asvab and gt. I'm guessing i'll have to retake.
>>30363245
I bought mine for work (paramedic) and because they were specifically designed for people who spend hours and days wearing boots inside vehicles. And they're pretty impressive.
>>30363302
Don't go in as enlisted. Just don't. Don't take the bait.
>>30363345
At work now, forgot the pic.
>>30363323
im researching the links on the OP
what i've seen up until this point, my background seems to fit in the air force, I kind of get there is a similar job on every branch.
I'll keep looking.
>>30363345
This genuinely made me angry, and I had to stop myself even now. I remember some dumbass getting his straps cut when we first got to our unit, and he went out an bought them. (You have to qualify as a crew to wear them)
I really don't care though, I'm glad you enjoy them. It's just strange how the tribalism still takes hold.
Which branch has the highest OCS acceptance rate?
>>30363342
You can probably guess, all the hard shit.
Seals
Nuke
CTN
Stuff like that. You could probably dig around and find CREO ratings.
Link might help.
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/navy/a/creolist.htm
>>30363379
Its well known air force has the best quality of life and is the easiest but ive heard advancement is tough cause its so cushy so no one gets out.
>>30363365
Also nice condition for old school.
>>30363384
It's a boot. I've worn all kinds over the years, from engineers to paratroopers to those fucked up nylon jungle boots. I've never once tried to claim status in or emulate a member of any armed forces. But I need boots for this job and the military is pretty much the known universe's best source for boot technology.
Tanker boots were intended to be comfortable for wear in a vehicle for hours or days. I work 48 hour shifts. I've been in these for 16 hours now. Those fuck-awful tactical abominations would have been smelling like the inside of a yeti's pussy after 8.
> mfw this shit starts an EMS trend and 50 years from now, old tankers are having strokes when people refer to the Corcoran 5407 as "Medic Boots"
tips on becoming a 0311?
>>30363540
You go to recruiter and ask for an Infantry contract. It's that damn simple.
>>30363562
Is this bait? Are you retarded?
>>30363314
stay the fuck away from chemical. All you will do is inventory gas masks and occasionally run a CS chamber if you're lucky. It also does absolutely nothing for you in the civilian world. If you're going to get a job that does nothing for you in the civilian world, get one that involves killing things.
>>30363617
Ok, tell me how it's done sport.
>>30363650
It doesnt work that way in the marines faggot. Dont ever post here again cause clearly youve never served and have no idea what you are talking about.
Airforce here. Fuck all you fat neckbeards
>>30363667
Lel. Did you ever think perhaps I answered your question because I was an 0311...
And you respond like a little know it all bitch, who's wrong. I'm not gonna give you advice now, and I don't think anyone else should either.
>>30363711
>Did you ever think perhaps I answered your question because I was an 0311
No, you arent cause if you were youd know you dont get 0311 like that poser.
> I'm not gonna give you advice now
Obviously im not the one who asked the question you retard.
Hmmm...well you are both a faggot and a moron, so maybe youre a marine after all.
Drop dead sport
>>30363746
>It doesn't work like that?
Tell me how you think it works?
>>30363529
I wasn't infer you were trying to infer status. I was just telling you how strange it is that to this day I have that reaction. It's like embedded in my brain. Not from civs wearing them, but just the "earning them" aspect.
>>30363760
>>30363746
>>30363711
>>30363667
>>30363650
>>30363617
>>30363562
>>30363540
these posts were all me
>>30363760
>Tell me how you think it works?
This IS how faggot
>Active duty contracts can only pick their job's field and you will be placed into a job within that field at a later date.
>Example: If you go active duty you can only pick the 03xx MOS field and while in infantry school you may or may not be allowed to pick your exact job within the 03xx MOS field.
Stop posting here
>>30363793
>these posts were all me
They werent
Lost of posers and faggots here tonight
>>30363781
Ah. Got it.
Yeah, with my line of work it's the exact opposite. The new guys always have ten tons of shit on them and then over the years they just stop giving a fuck. It's like you lose 5% of the fucks you gave starting out per year. When you start, you carry a Leatherman, a knife, trauma shears and cargo pockets full of random medicrap like IV sets and cannulas. And of course, everything is shiny and starched. After 20 years, you would probably run calls in boots and boxers with a prison shank taped to your chest. It's like the mark of an experienced medic is to carry a minimum of crap.
>>30363811
Stop being a fucking faggot. Yeah no shit Sherlock. That's why I said Infantry contract. As in it guarantees Infantry. MOS is in SOI ITB and you get to volunteer. You'll either be an 0311, 0331, 0341, or 0351.
Spare me that 03xx bullshit. Shit like 0313 LAV crewman is fucking combat arms shit and pog and goes to MCT.
You stop posting here, especially about shit you don't know.
>>30363302
If you want to serve your country and use your degree to its fullest, get a government civilian job.
>>30363855
You said
>You go to recruiter and ask for an Infantry contract. It's that damn simple.
Its not that damn simple clearly you fucking moron. It seems simple to you but clearly it isnt to the guy who asked the original question. You are giving bad advice. Again never post here again.
>>30363894
It's pretty simple. I told him the first step. But sure will. Remember when no one answers questions any longer, you can thank this faggot.
>>30363918
>I told him the first step
All you said was talk to a recruiter.
WOW howd you figure that one out???
You mean to tell me the first step is talking to a recruiter??? Genius!!! Give this man a 4chan gold pass for his contributions to the thread!!!
How many times do i have to make you look stupid before youll stop posting?
Does anyone know anything about Fort Richardson in Anchorage? I'm finishing ait in 6 weeks or so and that's where I'm being stationed.
Really excited to go to Alaska.
>>30364124
Supposed to be legit if you are an outdoorsy type.
Cons of enlisting in the Marine Corps?
Who the fuck becomes SEAL officers?
Star quarterbacks??
>>30362541
Uncle is an 88m reservist deployed to Iraq I believe. Met another 88m as well. You're a truck driver, the other guys like you, as far as I know 88mikes are pretty far king chill. Knew this guy who was an 88m who just commissioned active duty transpo.
88mikes are just truckers, cool guys but not a very cool job. Though I'm sure you will meet some 88mikes who are dumb as bricks. The 3 88mikes I know are chillooking as fok.
>>30365032
Doesn't seem like normal dudes who like to work out and run on occasion can even compete.
>Men with the best chance of being selected have proven leadership, strong language and/or cultural expertise, superior academic performance in challenging majors and have succeeded in competitive sports. Applicants must also have highly competitive Physical Screening Test scores.
Taken from
http://navyseals.com/buds/become-a-seal-officer/
>>30365055
Correction
The new 2lt deployed to Iraq when he was in the guard. Uncle went to afghanistan.
>>30362541
Sorry for spamming, but I also knew a SFC who is a 19d and jump master. They're "not infantry" as far as I can gather. Peace time on the guard/reserve side they're probably like any other unit. Can't speak for active.
>>30363391
Cbrn? Because no one wants to commission cbrn? Or do you mean navy, marines, and army?
>>30364124
It's absolutely terrible. You may try not to kill yourself but the odds are stacked against you...
>>30361877
Please give me advice for basic. I'm practically shitting myself with the fear and excitement
>>30365602
Shut your mouth and do what you're told. It'll be over before you know and no one in the real world cares about basic because they all went through the same shit you're about to.
>>30365739
How do you phrase questions or statements if you MUST say more than "Yes, drill sergeant" "No, drill sergeant"?
Do I just end every sentence with drill sergeant/sir?
As in "Yes, sir. This is the gear I was issued. They told me to let somebody here know it was SNAFU. I don't know who Phillips is but those are his cigarettes, sir."
>>30365802
Yes, that's exactly how it works and you're overthinking it.
Just play the game. You're going to fuck it up sometimes and get yelled at, but that's just part of the game too.
>>30365103
between branches
How's life as an 11b? I'm aware of the unfortunate reality that during peacetime I'd be an 11J instead
>>30362255
Bumping for halp
>tfw can't join because of bullshit "mental health" reasons
Fuck you, I would have been a great soldier. I love how one voluntary stay in a fucking mental hospital for mimor reasons can literally ruin your life and will follow you everywhere.
>>30361877
Daily Reminder To Never Enlist As:
>Military Police
>Security Forces
>Master-at-Arms
>>30363855
mortarman? that seems out of place and totally different than the other 3 possible infantry mos. out of 100 recruits how any would become mortarman?
>>30369122
meant to say how many not how any
Any prior service ever try to re-enlist after a chapter 5-17 discharge? Spent 2 years in, some shit happened, got discharged due to depression. I figure that I'd need a waiver, and a note from a psych or some shit, saying I've sought treatment, and I'm good to go.
>>30363529
Why would you wear jump boots for work? We only wear those shits in dress uniform
>>30367986
Why? Is it that bad?
>>30369223
I assume that much like regular police you'll spend 99% of your time dealing with drunk idiots, fixing stupid screw ups, being expected to take responsibility for everything, and filling out lots of paperwork. And nobody will like you because you're the man.
Will I get pussy as a 5'6 manlet in the navy? Has anyone here been to Japan?
>>30369122
~75% become 0311's, ~25% become weapons. That's in a typical Infantry company of 3 line platoons and a weapons platoon. So 8-9 out of your 100 scenario, give or take needs of the corps. Could be less, could be much higher.
Line platoons typically have 3 squads. That's how weapons kinda run it also. A squad of mortars, MGers, and assault men.
Since you ask about mortars it is very common for them to break away and do their own thing.
>>30370078
Yeah youre not going to japan.
Too many manlet navy guys have raped jap girls, we're out of there
>>30370078
>partying and drinking in japan
Have I got news for you my friend
>>30370078
>Will I get pussy as a 5'6 manlet in the navy?
Faggot
>>30370306
>>30370351
You im not that guy but can you explain this? Whats changed in the few years ive been out? I was in Yoko in 2012 and sasebo 2013 and things were fine.
>>30370385
A chick got trashed and drunk drove down the wrong lane. Now nobody gets to drink.
Also the Japanese are protesting about us being there again because there was a rape.
Just got back from the recruiter's office. Looking at cryptological linguist or jet engine mechanic (forget the specific title, know it has the word engineer in it). The airborne variant of linguist sounds pretty awesome, but I can't get in since I'm color blind.
>>30370469
>Now nobody gets to drink.
IS THIS A FUCKING JOKE?!?!?!
Drinking was the best part about being there. Chu-his non stop. Bro that sucks so bad i generally feel bad for you.
>>30370509
>aircraft engine mechanic
Avionics or bust, unless you genuinely enjoy the idea of guaranteed cancer from all the shit you touch
>>30370630
The driver was a black woman. They'd rather punish the whole branch than reprimand a black woman.
>>30370509
Linguist is good, you'll have a blast at DLI. When I was there it was basically college but you get a paycheck.
>>30363811
Nice... morons passing along the "only reservists can choose their job in the Marines" meme.
Never change, /meg/.
>>30371036
you get to pick a field such as 03xx but you CANNOT have 0311 written on your contract.
>prove me wrong faggot
I applied to the air force, needed a waiver(personality disorder) went to see a consult and was declined. Is there any way for me to join the military
>>30370249
thanks for the detailed answer. what is the reason for mortarmen being recruited out of the infantry pool instead of the artillery recruit pool?
So what is 35M like?
>>30371351
should of kept your mouth shut
>>30367986
Actually MP and MA are fine and generally not full of retards. Security Forces is where the Air Force send it's retards. They think they are operators but they pretty much just guard air fields and checks ID's at chow halls. Also, it is scientifically proven that the longer you stay at Minot as Security Forces, the more retarded you actually are. Anyone who is there more than 3 years is certifiably retarded and a waste of skin.
>>30371036
Holy fuck, these salty marines.
Having to sign yourself away BEFORE you pick from a limited poo of options is NOT the same as reserving your slot from the beginning with the army.
>>30371458
AIT will set impossibly high expectations of cool shit that you will never do because no one is deploying.
>>30371458
Learn how to make a powerpoint slide and copy and paste weather info.
Guys out of everything ill be doing in the future in the Army I'm most worried about the ASVAB. I'm ABSOLUTE SHIT at math. Like borderline retarded at math. I'm normal at English and reading, average at electronics, God tier at mechanics and tool. What do? If I get great scores at everything but math will I still most likely pass?
>>30372167
You're thinking F. Mikes don't do powerpoint/weather.
>>30372172
It's High School math. Not even "smart guy who took Calc in High School", just the shitty Algebra that you have to pass to even graduate.
If you're worried about it, study. KhanAcademy or ASVAB for Dummies are popular recommendations.
>>30370914
What was your actual deployment like? From what I was told it sounds like mainly office work.
>>30364124
I'm here right now senpai in 4/25th. What's your mos, what do you want to know
>>30372227
>KhanAcademy
Yes lad.
>>30372227
I understand that but will I pass the asvab if I get great scores in everything but math
>>30372234
It depends, if you're Army or Marines in a tactical unit you might actually go outside the wire.
>>30371770
>They think they are operators but they pretty much just guard air fields and checks ID's at chow halls.
We have these cunts in the UK. We call them the RAF Regiment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO9CbsiWqzQ
>>30370830
Wow man im so sorry to hear that. Can you still drink on base?
>>30371283
>>30371897
These anons get it
>>30371036
What you are pretending you can do it what the navy is actually like. Your rate is spelled out no if ands or buts. The marines only choose their field. Drop dead.
Aetc life reporting in.
>>30361877
Ok, faggots.
I want to join the army for an all-source/signals intelligence MOS.
I have an AAS degree in network security, and CCNA in addition to CompTIA+ certifications.
My question is... should I enlist, or go to my Uni to complete my education in information management and go into ROTC?
>>30372209
My bad. I still never learned what everything changed to after 96/97/98 became 35.
>>30372540
Do you have any idea if youd rather be in for 4 or go career?
>>30372540
Go enlisted and then go warrant officer from there if you actually like doing your job. As a regular commissioned officer you will never do that type of actual work.
Any advice for an ROTC cadet interested in becoming a Ranger officer? I realize this is an enlistment thread, but I might as well try. Currently in my second year of college, and I am pursuing a computer engineering degree.
>>30372605
>>30372607
Well, eventually I'd like to work in the civil service.
I'd consider a career, but given how bad the military treats junior officers, I'm not about to stomach the smell of a sphincter or the administration of fellatio.
>>30372540
Always commission over enlist. Only enlist if you wanna do cool guy stuff.
I knew 2 Intel officers. One is jacked and the other is super awkard. Also knew a guy who recently commissioned infantry and got assigned to an infantry unit as like an s-3 or Intel guy.
On the officer side if you're with a reserve/guard unit Intel could be office bullshit. Enlisting as a 35f will earn you the PowerPoint tab however.
>>30372540
Why the fuck are you aiming for all-source/SIGINT if you're a NetSec guy?
Cyber is what you want. 35Q/17C in the Army, CTN in the Navy, 1B4 in the Air Force. Intel is pretty chill, but it isn't what you actually want with that kind of experience/education.
>>30372766
>CTN in the Navy
God tier rate.
Fast as fuck advancement.
Bonuses.
Sweet Intel Bases.
>>30372676
Which branch should I enlist to? Which would be easiest to get into?
>>30373611
>>30372676
fuck meant commission into for OCS
>>30373611
>Random person on Internet, decide the future of my life
>>30373637
Well someone has to. I'm also looking at nupoc
>>30373653
Single mothers ladies and gentlemen.
>>30373680
>>30372359
Bump
>>30373611
>Which would be easiest to get into?
every branch has easy jobs
>but unless you're a sped you dont want to do them.
>>30372359
>>30374020
Do you understand what "passing" the ASVAB means? Look that up, and you'll have your answer.
>>30371918
As long as I learn how to do cool shit it can't be that bad right?
>>30374326
Army and Marines or AF iirc don't let you pick your job.
I'm talking about OCS
Do they still put religion on dog tags
>>30372766
Ok. I'll definitely consider it.
I just thought that Network security would enhance my understanding of the intelligence field.
>>30372618
Get good at Running and Ruck Marches
>>30372392
I'm looking at Airforce, so I'm guessing I won't get deployed that much.
>>30374020
I can't see one category fucking you up big time. Just relax and study up.
>>30370830
lol its not just that. its the history the marines have of raping and killing the local populace in Okinawa
>>30375584
I was army. Im pretty sure Air Force you either get air crew (which I assume is out for you if you can't get a waiver) or you'll work at NSA at either Meade or Gordon. Honestly although the NSA is an office job you'd still be doing important work.
>>30374834
Yeah but you can literally put whatever you want. I knew a guy who put Jedi on it, he wore robes in his off time and got arrested for taking an axe to a stop sign.
>>30364124
me and my family were stationed up there when my parents were still in the service, it's a pretty cozy state. too young to remember much tho
>>30372618
You have to score high enough in your class to get infantry, then go to ranger school, then pass ranger school, then go to your first unit and do well. If you do well, then if the assignment gods smile upon you, maybe you'll end up somewhere close enough to a ranger unit that you have the opportunity to attend ROP or whatever they're calling it these days. Get accepted, then do well as a ranger. Then, as a senior 1LT, don't apply to become special forces for some unknown reason that I will never understand, despite the fact that you probably have the background and fitness to get selected.
No matter how well you do, they'll kick you out when you make CPT. Then you have to go to another unit, get lucky with your assignment location and type again, get an early command, do well in that command, maybe get a second command, do well in that command too, and then apply to command in the ranger regiment.
Honestly, ending up in regiment as an officer is probably 2/3rds luck and 1/3rd skill. If you do not get exactly the right assignments in exactly the right order, it will not happen. If you show up to a unit at an unlucky time as a CPT and have to wait more than a year to get a company command, it will not happen. And so on.
>>30371897
>limited poo of options
This misspelling is perfect.
>>30375845
So I could put saradominist?
Any ADF/ausfags here? I'm soon to finish schooling and was hoping to get some opinions/infomation. I like the idea of air force, especially piloting fast jets, but infantry or officer seems interesting too. Is their much competition to make these roles? Could anyone shed some light on such career paths? How hard is it to get deployed, is the uni any good?
Thanks in advance.
>>30362483
>Navy vet here, Diver is an amazing rate with even better opportunities once you are out. Its hard though man so you better be ready.
Thanks for the feed back.
Definitely taking swim classes for sure. I might go in as a welder of some sorts and then try to get into diving as my body at the moment is too weak. It would also help if I got more experience welding too. I am keeping an open mind for many jobs.
I get calls weekly from the army trying to recruit me after right said no 100 times. How do I get themy to stop?
Alright /k/, I'm heading to my Army OCS board in a few weeks.
What should I expect? What kind of questions do they ask? How can I best prepare myself?
Pros
>Successful career in a civilian leadership position with glowing letters of rec from former superiors
>300 APFT
Cons
>Bad grades in college; 2.95 GPA
I'm 28, college was years ago. I'm hoping my strong resume cancels out my poor performance back then.
>>30376477
Bitches don't know about my Guthix.
I want to join Task Force 6-26 or Task Force 88. What do I need to do?
Considering joining Coast Guard Reserves. 20, finished up sophomore year in Chemical engineering, alternating between Mass. and VA. Anyone done it, before? Is it easy to transfer to a different base when I finish college? And should I wait until after graduating?
>>30378147
Tell them if they don't stop that you are going to join ISIS.
Sup MEG, active duty 88M here.
I want to transfer to the Navy. My ETS is Sept 2017. Wat do.
>>30378477
>get on government watch list
>can't buy handguns by the time I get to legal age
Perfect idea
But on a serious note, the Marines and the Navy called and I said I was somewhat interested. After that I got no calls or anything from them, but when the Army calls and I say no they just keep calling from different offices and contacting me on facebook.
>>30378620
TELL ME ABOUT 88M PLEASE
>>30378147
Join the Army, or I'll keep calling.
sup 153D here, ask away
>>30378830
How did you commission?
>>30378830
How to I become a crew member/door gunner?
>>30378470
I'm also in a similar boat (kek). Is the 2 year ROTC scholarship the best way?
>>30378785
gonna need some more of the girl with bangs first
>>30378870
ROTC
>>30378878
talk to a recruiter in your state for NG or an active duty one and ask about being a part of aviation. To my understanding, you have to go in with an MOS of a maintainer first, and then once in you can get qualified to be a crew chief
>>30378301
Did you get a haircut for your OCS pic? My recruiter said I needed to get one but forgot to ask what kind
>>30378301
If you're expecting Aviation out of OCS, you're gonna have a bad time.
Easiest way into aviation is through the national guard, you can literally get a slot by interviewing at a prospective unit.
>>30379141
Also how long did it take you to max out the apft? Routine?
>>30378629
just change your number and make your facebook private
How do I join Special Operations Group?
>>30378899
I don't have the sauce.... Pls tell me about 88m
>>30379233
Go 11B, put up with bullshit, be a good soldier, attend selection meetings that are hosted at post Gym on tuesdays
>>30379163
I'm not, that's just a cool picture.
>>30379141
>>30379206
I'm bald, so no need.
I used the workouts from DB WOD. It's very Crossfit-esqe. I did these almost everyday for two months. I would also do the Ab Ripper X routine. The website went down awhile ago, but I snagged snapshots before it vanished. Here you go.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B11F7e9MXvzyOURUVHcyb0NQUW8
>>30379256
Fuck I don't want to bother him just to ask about my haircut. I've always rocked the long hair too.
Alright thanks I'll check that out, maybe get some dumbbells on CL. I don't want to spend 100 a month on fucking crossfit so I could try that.
>>30379247
The last guy wasnt me. But.
88M is a pretty chill life back in garrison. Everybody basically loves you because they habe no idea what you really do during the day. The key is "oh i was PMCSing a truck" or "I was cleaning some oil stain". Youll be driving alot to ranges on post if there are any, delivering anything from ammo to portaJons. Out in the fiel is when it gets complicated. Depending on what kind of unit or in or your platoon manpower, youll be on the road alot, doing anything from logpacs to ammo drops to helping set up Farps and Roms and going to LARPs at 2 in the goddamn morning.
But its a good life and the trucks are fun to drive and nobody really fucks with you. Be able to lift 88 Pound mortar cans. Maybe more if theyre HE. i cant remember....
>>30379283
Yeah, this is all the benefits of crossfit with none of the costs.
I go to my local Y for some of the workouts. I replace farmer's walk with a rowing machine and do the runs on the treadmill then jump on the dumbells.
There's lots of 1/4 and 1/2 sprints. After you do this for a long time, next thing you know 2 miles will be easy. I rock a 12:30 2 mile now, and I never run outside of these workouts.
>>30379254
What about joining the Marines and becoming a Raider first? From what I read SOG recruits from all branches and being a standout operator seems like it would help, especially since it is a rebooted force.
>>30379318
don't know nuffin bout them muhreens,
~~Airborne~~ (Not Airborne)
>>30379318
Because you will end up joining the Marines, getting disillusioned, become a terminal lance, skate, get married and divorced, seperate, and bitch about how the military wasn't like the Call of Duty and we can't have any more of those oh my god it drives me nuts
>>30379163
This is how I got my network ops contract in the air guard.
I was hanging out with friends who came back into town the night before the afoqt. I blew it out of my ass and I got 80s on the verbal ap and acad, and like a 30 on quant; doesn't matter since I met the minimum requirements and the leadership at the unit I applied to is totally gay for me since I have years of professional experience.
Imo, active duty is for kids out of high school and college new grads who fucked up and didn't secure a job. The guard and reserves are definitely the way to go for people who already have a good life and want to serve.
>>30379370
>terminal lance
Wasn't aware of this term but after looking it up it perfectly describes one of my friends who just finished an enlistment. I thought he just had a bad attitude from too high expectations not being met since he idolized marines as a kid. Not sure what you mean by skate unless you mean go through the motions. He didn't get hitched though he thought it was great in the beginning when some of his friends did. So is this elitist marine mentality is just overcompensation/marketing? What do you recommend instead? Based on my reading it seems like most former military have not so great things to say about their experience and end up going PMC or PSC, but in order to do that you need a military background. How do I control for the least damage?
>>30379489
>former military
meant former and current
>>30379430
it's how I became a helicopter pilot.
>decent amount of deployments.
>Staffed well enough so only the people who really wanna deploy will deploy with a few exceptions.
>Flying over your own house if you live close enough.
>More hours flying as a commissioned officer than active duty
>having a regular job where you get to leave to go be a pilot 3 times a month
>>30379489
Not that anon you're talking to but:
skater = faggot who hides from work, thereby causing more work for his colleagues
skate = the act of hiding from work
terminal lance = faggot who didn't try very hard at being a marine and blames getting out as an e3 on a system that is out to get them. Usually a 2nd or 3rd class pfter, a markman level shooter, and a skater.
Corporal and sergeant cutting scores are in the 1600s these days, closeouts hardly ever happen. The only reason why someone would be a terminal lance is because they were a shitty marine and never picked up or got busted down for being a moron.
>>30379532
I'm a prior active marine and I also once chugged the "reserves are stupid" kool aid. I had the option to go to a state school on a full ride and instead I enlisted because I let the propaganda seep into my head. I'm still buttmad about the five years I spent working 14 hour days for shit money.
Anyway, there are two f16 pilot slots at my guard unit that have been open for like a year. It really seems like the guard is the best kept secret in the military.
$13,000 (o-1) a year plus special pay to hang out for one weekend a month/two weeks a year, retirement options, space a flights, and more? Yes, please.
>>30379561
Ok then I was totally wrong. My friend was a good Marine and tried to get the most out of it. The definition I read of terminal lance basically described someone who was disillusioned with the stagnation/lack of dancement or mobility. And he definitely did not skate on his duties, he trained a lot as well. He just thought marine life was a waste of time and could have been fulfilled elsewhere.
>>30379613
never count on space A, never. But yeah, guard aviation and guard SF are pretty legit and have as high standards that are rigorously enforced as the AD counterparts.
>>30379624
>dancement
fuck meant advancement. this what I get for spilling some water on it.
>>30379561
>>30379489
I got out as an e4 Infantry. That dude is a pog faggot.
Sk8 = not showing up for a working party because an excuse
Being a sk8er means not giving a shit about bullshit. You always do your job.
>1600's cutting score
In 2011 Infantry cutting score for e4 was 1830.
>>30379637
I used space a all the time when I was in '02-08 to get between mcas beaufort and miramar. I went home every holiday. Also, my guard unit is an airlift that does flight nursing, they have ten open seats on their c130s at all times.
I was also pleasantly surprised when I saw how seriously they take their training, especially compared to ad air force. I watched their security forces drill one weekend - they got in riot gear and just beat the shit out of each other for like four hours, is was pretty glorious.
They're in southern california and frequently get called to assist with wildfire operations and later this year they're going to be going to germany to do medical flights out of the operating areas and kuwait. I won't get in before they go, still excited about what else happens in the future.
>>30379684
My friend was infantry. He wanted to be a sniper initially but ended up being assigned elsewhere.
>>30379684
Pretty common knowledge that retard jobs that have a billion people and tiny fields with around 150 have a sine-like attribute when it comes to scores.
Judging from your personal definition of what it means to skate, I'm guessing you were one of those people that everybody hated.
>>30379624
>someone who was disillusioned with the stagnation/lack of dancement or mobility
That is just part of being in one of the combat fields when there is no combat. There is always something to do in the other fields and people hate those who are lazy and hide at medical or other places during work hours. Everyone knew what they were volunteering for, and if you didn't and you try to make you being bored everyone else's problem you aren't going to have a good time in the marine corps.
Your friend is definitely right. Being a marine isn't rewarding in really any manner of speaking, telling civilians you are a marine gets old really fast, probably faster nowadays that the bootlicker culture is dying down.
When you get to be about 21 and your friends are graduating from college and making like 20 or 30k more than you in entry level positions, it starts to get even more depressing.
>>30379732
Your post is a little retarded.
To the contrary I was well liked. Skating is a skill and well praised.
>>30379782
Yeah he said he felt like he was being held back and said that the marines being "underfunded" didn't help either. I guess he just felt like what he was doing was pointless or mindless and there was little room to grow, especially since the rank cap is lower than other branches as he claimed. At first he wanted to make it a career until his 40's but that faded away after serving 2 years. Now he wants to do real estate and be financially independent.
So I just dropped out of my highschool and got my GED.
I'm considering going into the Navy as a FMF Corpsman. Is this a bad idea?
I gather that doing the navy's nuke program is bad? They sell it way too hard.
>>30380282
Memorize it.
I'm about to finish my 4th year of college (History, 3.4 GPA) and I know that I want to join the Army, but I don't know whether I want to commission or go Enlisted. I'd like to stay in for 20 if that matters.
Another thing, I was thinking that I'd like to go into something with intelligence. I've heard to do that you need to get Top Secret Clearance, which requires an interview. There are 2 things that worry me and make me wonder if I should even go for a TS job:
-When I was in my freshman year I smoked weed twice
-When I was 16-18 (when I first discovered 4chan) I went through a kiddy porn phase.
I haven't touched or looked at any of that degenerate shit in years but I don't know anything about statute of limitations or if the Army would care. Anyone have advice?
>>30380427
Scrub your shit clean and delete everything that could ever connect you to any of that CP.
As for the pot, don't lie about that.
If they ask just give them a calm concise answer.
I'm sure they'd understand somebody experimenting in highschool with something like that.
>>30380427
If you want to be a lifer as an officer in intelligence, be prepared for a poly down the line
so good luck with that
>>30380470
Yeah, I figure with the pot shit I can just be honest. I was an awkward 18 year old who didn't have many friends and said "sure" when a hot girl asked if I wanted to get high with her a couple times.
And there's absolutely no evidence that could tie me to any of the CP shit, I'm just wondering if they'd ask that kind of thing on the interview i.e
Interviewer:"Have you ever committed a crime?"
Me: Yes
Interviewer:"Which crimes?"
Me: shoplifting as a kid, smoked weed twice, also I watched a bunch of CP as a teenager
doesn't seem like it would win them over
>>30380506
fug
>>30380516
Leave out the CP stuff man. I'm sure if they do a background check, they'll see the time gap between then and now at least.
Make double sure you can't be tied to any of that stuff though.
>>30380304
If I go supply, which I plan to, is it true about the dick around all day thing?
>>30380594
Please don't go to supply just to dick around all day. There's plenty of desk-jobs you can get that don't actually need people to do shit on a timely basis.
I owe about $3000 in back taxes and another $600 on a defunct credit card. I'm currently expecting that my background check isn't going to turn up favorable for top secret clearance, which will rule out 35F.
What are some decent MOSs that don't require clearance. I have a perfect ASVAB score so I qualify for anything on that basis.
>>30380889
You likely won't be able to enlist these days while owing the irs, and really you may have issues getting in if you were to pay it.
>>30380889
are you working towards paying them? that's the bigger issue
>>30380939
Well, that's a bummer.
>>30380940
I'm out of work right now.
>>30380956
Talk to a recruiter and see what happens I say, just don't make the military your plan A.
Debt and shitty credit is bad, so I would imagine that guvment debt is a whole lot worse.
>5a
W... what does this mean?
>>30381012
Do you have uncontrollabed outstanding debt or money problems that would make you an especial security liability.
People having money problems is the #1 reason for security clearance denials.
>>30380993
The funny thing is that I was gonna ship right after Christmas, but my medical paperwork got rejected a few days before my ship date. I've got doctor recommendations and whatnot to deal with that situation, but I do need to reenlist since I was considered a DEP loss before.
If everything goes best case scenario, and I'm allowed to enlist again, I still don't know what I want to do that doesn't require clearance. I want to serve my country, but if I can, I'd rather walk away with an applicable real world skillset than PTSD.
ctn is better than nuke right
right
am i making mistake
>>30381076
Ok thays good. I thought it meant if I had a history of missing payments. I'm really just getting psyched out right now
>>30381099
yes
no
>>30381101
it does mean that too. do you regularly miss payments or have runaway debt? Or are you making your payments on time and shit
>>30381137
I make most of my payments on time, and the debt never gets runaway, ever.
how hard is it to get a top security clearance
i have no criminal record and none of my family is foreign
>>30381220
top secret
>>30381220
you should get it then
are you a terrorist? Yes or No
takes a long ass time though
>>30381278
No
is that it?
>>30381278
What happens if I get through basic and AIT requires clearance?
>>30381306
You go as far as you can with an interim clearance, and then they pull you out of training and you sit on your hands until you are fully cleared.
>>30381285
drugs?
you gotta list a lot of references though which theyll interview and find others from those dudes.
any health shit? I don't know about whether or not to lie on that since I didn't have any issues there.
it's a big ass form.
>>30381306
can't speak for enlisted but when I was signing up for a TS for an officer program, they told me they'll basically hold me after OCS which is our basic training and make me wait for my clearance to go through before moving on to the school.
>>30371449
They are expected to do far more infantry shit than artillerymen.
Historically the mortarmen would eat, sleep, and travel with the infantry. In combat they were just behind the infantry in position to give supporting fires. If the company were to take casualties they can function as an organic auxilliary for the commander, and were usually some of the first ordered up to the line to serve as temporary replacements for infantry or to perform miscellaneous infantry tasks like carrying ammo/supplies or carrying wounded out of the combat zone.
So they're basically infantry with mortars, whereas the artillerymen are guns guys with rifles. Different emphasis. I dunno how they're used in modern operations.
>>30381328
Do you draw a paycheck? How long can that take and how does it affect your length of service?
>>30381340
you're still getting stacks
it honestly depends, can take a while if there's issues less if you're just an average amerifat
>>30381362
Not a bad deal then. I figure that wherever you're put up would have a gym and you'd be able to take other trainings or something.
About a month away from finishing my PhD in Computer Science. Just turned 30. Wondering if my wanderlust is going to get the better of me.
What can the military offer me /k/? I could make fuck tons of money in the private sector if I wanted. I could work 30 hour weeks and still make decent bank by teaching.
What cool shit is only open to you in the military if you're really smart? I don't want to be a pilot.
>>30381335
In recent theaters, artillery has been used in an infantry capacity, clearing villages, air assaults, aerial reaction force, etc. a buddy of mine who was a 13b was actually running an infantry mortar platoon during one tour near the end of OIF. There's still artillery guns stationed in afg but they hardly ever shoot anymore.
Hey Canadian anons,
I want to join the Navy, but I have a full-time job currently, pays my bills etc. My hope would be to apply, take whatever interviews I need to, and all the while not need to resign from my current job until I'm through the medical exams and know I can actually go to Basic Training and stuff. I'd hate to fail a medical exam due to like, hearing or eyesight or whatever else.
Is that possible at all, or completely not how it works?
>>30381411
You sound pretty pretentious man. With that degree of education you'd be a fool to enter the service unless you were a doc or an attorney.
>>30381411
the navy is looking to take in dudes with experience and degrees for crypto shit
they'll bring you in at a higher rank too
but you sound like a fag and your shit's all retarded
>>30381330
: SSSS
>>30381411
>don't wanna be a pilot
you're only fooling yourself anon
>>30381080
Sorry, can't help you with that. All the fun/interesting stuff requires clearances.
Hopefully you won't end up in admin or food service.
i know two people who joined the army and got their MOS written in their contract but still had it changed a little bit before they shipped out, anybody know why this happened and how to prevent it?
Military is the best worst thing you can do to yourself.
I just got out after six years, actually still on terminal leave for another 20 days or so. I hated every fucking waking minute of the last year I was in, but you just keep your head down shut the fuck up go to work and go home.
I am now video interviewing with booze allen, lockheed, and caci for positions all in the 60-80k range and have already had two tentative offers pending background and face to face.
Do it, don't be a barracks lawyer or fuck the barracks bunny without a condom. Don't get married, don't fucking knock up a soldier/local. Be at PT/formation/your place of duty at the right time every fucking time, in the right uniform. When your time is finally up, ask all your OIC/NCOICs that you had good relations with (you did brown-nose and get good relations right?) for letters of character/rec, and sail into the future happy without debt and free college.
>>30381482
Expand on that. How was it changed "a little bit"
>>30381471
Am I? I'm scared of heights but Navy and muhreen pilot boards are pretty high so I'm considering it. It's 8-10 years too fuck
>>30381513
Army Aviation is high above the best
>>30381509
i meant it was changed a short time before they shipped out, one guy went in as a medic and had it changed to something in engineering a few days before shipping out. I think he had previous experience in engineering but another person had no previous experience in anything and still had the same thing happen
>>30381513
I just ETS'd, spent my last three years with 12th CAB in Germany. Army aviation is 10x better than the other branches when it comes to culture and happiness. Plus, you get to learn from the saltiest, most experienced warrant officers in the world who could fly blackout while beating their dick and singing the anthem.
>>30381535
Probably only specific cases honestly. Needs of the Army and all that. They still would have to ok the change before shipping
>>30381550
Preach it brother
What does it take to get into aviation?
>>30381411
Forget how hilarious it is that you're 30 with a phd and you don't know what to do with your life.
Also, forget this faggot >>30381458 as well. Design and implementation is done by civilians, not military enlisted or officers. Direct commissions, officers who are brought in at higher ranks, are only for professional degrees; you'd be a second lieutenant with a phd making $2900/mo if you joined as an officer.
Look into cyber in the army or air force if you really want to join active and do something in your field. Milfags in cyber are pretty much only junior sysadmins though, so it may be pretty unfulfilling.
Of course you can always google around and look at jobs. You're getting old though and you've never expressed interest in the military in your lifetime so it may be difficult to get a commission. If you want to get in your best bet are making some friends and getting a recommendation at a guard or reserve component imo.
Im back guys.
AMA
>>30381715
Pretty sure if you have a doctorate you join as an O3
>>30381701
In what capacity?
Technically just go sky diving and jump.
>>30381732
>source
>citation
>>30381723
Who are you
>>30381701
Balls of steel, a liver made of titanium and a cock like a Burmese Python
>>30381749
Great, got all that. Can I just off the street tell my army recruiter I want to fly?
Fuck the airforce. I've run into a lot of military people where I live, and the airforce guys I've met had a real superiority complex.
>>30381715
say that to my face not online and see what happens
http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/2016/06/19/navy-forges-ahead-plan-hire-civilians-chief-captain/85877884/
It's only in the planning stages I guess you're right
>>30381811
Can go officer route but need a degree. Otherwise, a lot of guys go in as a blackhawk crew chief and just keep dropping packets for flying warrant.
>>30381749
I don't have balls of steel though
>>30381550
>>30381520
really? Well I've always liked helicopters and shit and definitely don't want to fly an osprey since they seem cool but I heard they have a lot of accidents. I dunno what to do about my heights thing, and it's like 10 years isn't it? might as well be a lifer. What if I don't like it?
>>30361877
fun fact: that picture was taken at the old ocs campus at ft benning. (now the new airborne campus) that building under construction in the background is the new airborne dfac. ocs is notorious for employing the kids waiting to class up in menial labor tasks like raking dirt and gravel.
>>30381732
If you have a doctorate in a professional field, yes; you may even get o4 if you have the professional experience as well. Otherwise, no, no you do not. This is only for DCOs.
Please stop making shit up. /meg/ is already shit, you don't have to contribute to it.
Does the ASVAB really matter past filtering out the actual retards?
>>30381956
>ASVAB really matter past filtering out the actual retards
Well thats what its for. It really doesnt serve any other purpose.
>>30381984
So people who blow hard about their high scores are just being assholes?
>>30381956
what did you make on it
>>30382000
>blow hard about their high scores are just being assholes?
Do people actually do this? Guessing your still in DEP? Mate it doesnt translate to work ethic or anyhing liek that so let it go. When i was in the fleet one guy in my div got a 90ish score and was the biggest dirtbag i knew. Super lazy and skated like no bodies business. Another guy got a 50ish and worked like a dog and loved the navy. the persons attitude is more important than some number on a test.
>>30382015
Lowest line score was a 132 in mechanical maintenance. I dropped out of high-school at the start of 10th grade, never learned wiring of any kind, and don't have a license or know the first thing about engines.
I genuinely can't imagine anyone getting lower than a 120 for any given line.
>>30382060
This.
Gt is 134, and i was piss drunk when i took it. I literally skipped portions of the test.
>>30381748
Used to come here a lot
I was in training to be a Special Missions Aviator on hueys but washed out and am about to reclass. Here to answer AF questions
>>30382102
>Here to answer AF questions
Whyd you wash out?
In all honestly do you think about suicide out of shame?
What's the biggest needs of the army MOS that isn't a punishment MOS like cooking?
>>30382060
what was yr afqt
