Do it
>>30353954
Do you shoot your cheese to give it those holes?
>>30353954
Swiss Army Fag - Sounds like a sex toy with fold out dicks. Is this the case?
>>30353955
No. its because we are fkn stingy and hide holes inside the cheese.
>>30353960
Ture. we have 5 sizes in diffrent colours. also a corkscrew
>>30353954
do you prefer the STGW 57?
>>30353954
which profession are you doing?
>>30353954
Have you shot an AR platform rifle, if so how does it compare to what you have been issued?
>>30353991
i prefer the stgw 90. its moer accurate as far as i can tell and also less heavy.
>>30353996
at the moment im at the "Flugplatzsicherheits Kompanie" in meiringen. i guard the F/A 18 fighter Jets and the Tigers in the underground hangars.
>>30354016
You guys still use F-5's?
>>30353954
reporting in.
>>30354023
yeah, we do
>>30354002
i never had the chance to shoot a Ar15 since we are not allowed to use other weapons then our own, at least while in duty
>>30354037
What about F-4 Phantoms?
>>30354037
Where do you have your service?
>>30354016
>guard the jets
as if you need to defend against the "feind"
>>30354053
No we dont have those
>>30354057
Thats exactly why this Job is so Great. we are allowed to roam free in the Hangars. We dont have much to d so we can watch the Fighters start and do their maneuvers.
>>30354054
bald letscht wk.
>>30354057
hey, thats one of the only things we have thats worth guarding
>>30354012
do you own any guns?
>>30354002
>>30354012
>less heavy
Was verzellsch du für Scheiss man? Du hesch sicher nie met e AR15 gschosse, du huere Banane.
Stgw 90 is only good for prone shooting. As a civilian rifle it's inferior to the AR15 due to price/quality, since for 3.5k you can buy an AR15 that outperforms the Stgw in every aspect.
>>30354107
bro du versteisch da was Falsch. er het mi gfragt obig ds STGW 57 bevorzuge, und i ha gseit Nei. i ha gseit i ha ds AR15 nie gschosse leider. würd aber gärn ;)
What's your favorite color? Mine is green. To be more specific I like hunter/forest green the most.
>>30354120
geh burschen, wir wissn´ do olle, des das stg 58 no imma des beschte g´wehr wor!
>>30354089
biseides my ordnance weapons i got a Walther P99 which i bought myself and a Karabiner 31, a Schmidt-Rubin rifle from 1889 (pic related), a Revolver Modell 1882/29 which i inherit from my Grandfather
>>30354135
i finde das Teil huere Unhandlich. vorauem o Grässlech
>>30354120
Es esch nüt speziells. Hesch nüt verpasst
>>30354135
Das habt ihr ja nur in lizenz gebaut, das zählt nicht.
Das AUG ist ziemlich nett hingegen
>>30353954
Wafm here. May I remind you to think twice about what you write. Just a friendly reminder.
If you were an animal, what animal would you be?
Me, I'd be a beetle.
Have you ever trained with other countries?
If so which ones were the best and which ones were the worst?
You gonna answer my question or not you mountain nigger?
>>30354135
Do you mean the austrian fal or have you written the Stgw 57 wrong?>>30354145
Hesch es voll fun gschosse? DAS isch z guete.
>>30354172
Nah we are dwarfs. Living under the mountains, building intricate machinery and weapons. Hoarding gold as well as not cearing for the wars of mortal men.
>>30354170
no. at least as far as i know.
>>30354176
Zum schiesse ischs Geil. Das Teil chlatscht no Richtig das isch so
>>30354164
Sägä ja nüt wo nid Offiziel uf dr Homepage VTG steit
>>30354170
I drank a lot of beer with some bundeswehr guys at a military exhibition once.
>>30354169
i would like to be a tapeworm
>>30354079
Yeah, from 9 to 5, that's when your pilots go home for the day because Switzerland doesn't have Alarmbereitschaft at night.
>>30354190
Serie für isch z beste mit däm.
>>30354191
Dert steit dasde spezifisch dert bisch? Verdammt die hei scho absolut nüm im griff. Waffe abschaffe oni ersatz und iz das.
Can you enforce the EU countries to have better gun laws? Please?
>>30353954
Are you a knife guy? Do you do knife things for other people?
>>30354197
nid ig us perosn aber Ig us Wach. Wird ja bewacht, und das steit ja o dert
>>30354170
I can answer that.
The English were generally very determined if a bit slow, the French I have seen were outstanding (plus, toting a remarkable "hotties" factor), the Germans looked solid and very good at what they do, maibly the ones coming from Universität des Bundeswehr. Probably the best I've seen were servicemen in the US Army: big motherfuckers, strong soldiers and with very solid bases. Other than that, the Italians have always been a sorry-ass display of inadequacy, especially on the organizational side of things.
we Swiss probably place around 2nd or 3rd place behind Americans and Germans/Brits when it comes to competence.
>>30354200
>Can you enforce the EU countries to have better gun laws? Please?
Currently it seems the other way around. We need to stay vigilant.
>>30353986
Is the corkscrew for when you want to pig out?
>>30354206
>>30354210
Also the Gun Laws in Most EU countries and Switzerland are not the same
>>30354107
Wer cha läse isch klar im Vorteil
>>30354163
> Das habt ihr ja nur in lizenz gebaut
Wir wussten halt was gut war damals
>>30354176
surley, I meant the austrian FAL
probably the best version out there by far
>>30354190
>>30354190
da z´negats di no richtig!
>>30354145
> FAL
> grässlech
>>30354218
>probably the best version out there by far
>not the south african R1, with rhodesian camo
>on 4chan
>>30354218
>>30354135
Nei ha gmeint er meigi ds Stgw 57, has nid gschnauet
>Schwiizerfade
>>30353954
Serious question.
Are Swiss ready to go to war with the muslim scourge, to protect their women, children and heritage?
Or are they busy sucking dick like the majority of other western European men.
>>30354235
What a man can do is what a man will do.
The Jackal
>>30353954
Which branch? Infantry ? Panzer ? Logistic ?
Which function?
Are doing our military service right now?
>>30354218
>FAL
>one of the strongest-recoiling .308 I've ever shot
>aperture sights
>good
the only >good things that it has going for it are the light weight and the left-mounted charging handle. The rest is bollocks. Then again, I am used to a Stgw.57 as a battle rifle, so I might be a bit spoiled.
>>30354235
Haha. Im afraid we will stay as neutral defenders. and to be honest i like it that way.
>>30354246
Please read. Reading helps. At least for preventing unnecessary questions.
>>30354253
that is the point, you half-rifleman
>>30354012
>i prefer the stgw 90. its moer accurate
Neiiiiiiiiii. The Stgw57 is more accurate.
>>30354016
Are you "sicherung soldat /soldat de sûreté" or just some random airman faggot?
>>30354253
What about those, who already invaded your borders and are spreading like wildfire.
>>30354283
Rhodesia 2.0 but this time with a happy end.
>>30354233
>>30354293
when it comes to ammunition and barrel quality, yes; the trigger, sights and ergonomics bring it down to slightly-below-550 levels. There is a reason why sports-shooting-outfitted 510 rule over any 550.
>>30354293
Well it is. The ones given out since 2002 dont have the nice barrels anymore. Objectively they are worse. (the best barrels are now in tha hands of those who made the service with the 57 but ended up recieving the 90).
>>30353954
Well im off now. Back to working with the Kongsberg and the MG64s. See you tonight.
>>30354308
What's the point with the fall of quality with SwissArms products? Since SwissArms is basically the SIG armament division with a new name?
Plus the Stgw90 that I received in the military last year (so a SwissArms made) was very accurate. I have never shot with a SIG original one but the new are very accurate and high quality products and still recognized as such.
>>30354277
im just a random airman faggot, thats why i have the Time to spend the afternoon on 4chan.
>>30354350
Don't wonder anymore why some guys get out of the army fatter than before they enter.
I would have geficked you with some cardio and push up.
>>30354291
> no STGW 57
absolutely heretical
>>30354435
I'll buy a Stgw57 one day. But it is not a priority.
It is ugly as fuck btw. I know it's pretty good rifle but ewww...
>>30354141
How common are K31s over there? They've started to become rarer in the US. And do you still have access to surplus GP 11s? How much is it a round?
>>30354407
Cardioo and Push Ups are no Problem for me. just because i dont have much to do, doesn's mean i dont do zhe Sports
>>30354579
Very common, lust above 100$ for one in a decent condition. Around 150-200 for a good one.
as for surplus GP11, it's still being produced by the government. We pay some 30cts a round, 24.50 for a 60 round battlepack.
>>30354517
>it ugly as fuck btw
YOUR UGLY AS FUCK BTW
>>30354617
Leave it, friend, it's not worth it. It does look like something only a mother could love, but not every Swiss sees it as the perfect little angel it is.
He's probably some pleb from Albania.
>>30354621
it's true that it is great for Shooting. But would you still choose the Stgw 57 if you would have to go on a real misson?
>>30354645
Lots of "war journalists" in the Middle East carry a shortened version of the little bugger furnished with a collapsing stock and a red dot, rather than a 5.56 carbine.
The full size one is a battle rifle, outdated by its very concept. I am an infantryman, so a long and heavy weapon in a modern setting is not the best for my competence (that's why I chose an LMG specialisation - ahah), but for house clearing and long range combat shooting I would take a carbine version of a 510 over a 550. Ammo capacity is another issue altogether, but with the weight we spare from a 4.1kg rifle we can afford a few extra mags.
>>30354621
DELETE THIS
Never call me an albanian again.
>>30354684
You passed the test :^)
Unless you are actually a Serb and got mad out of slav pride.
>>30354677
>I would take a carbine version of a 510 over a 550
No
>>30354704
Over a full-size* 550. Should have made that clearer. The 553 is sweet as fuck and GP90 is very stable at long distances, even if it lacks some Oomph.
Infantry function and 553 = grenadier?
>>30353954
Im jealous of your army and policies. Why can't we be neutral either? Your army is there to defend switzerland. Not to police other states half way around the world. Isn't this what an army should be? Conscription and militias also, awesoe idea. Estonia has the right idea too. Man I love your airforce. You don't get bullied into the failed F35. You even vote about getting a NG gripen. I love it.
Also when I say we I don't mean the US.
>>30354840
We voted against the Gripen (sadly). But a new plan acquisition gas begun. And we could finally still choose the Gripen NG as remplacement of the F/a-18 and the old F-5 Tiger in 4 or 5 years.
Any swissfags have infos on the futur development of pur Army? The other day a swiss said here that after 2018 all tanks will be removed... Is it true? Can we do something against this ?
>>30354724
>Infantry function and 553 = grenadier
The 553s are onely issued to the sf guys (Isone Grenadiere)
I heard the Inf will get them soon but i havent senn a proof of it yet
>>30354141
Can you post pictures of said revolver? ;)
>>30354970
not at the moment, since im in the cavern.
maybe i well open a Thread wehn i get home.
>>30354981
Ok, thanks!
>>30354164
>implying a Wafm has acces to anything that is secret
Seriously 90% of us get trained on common equipment (small arms, machine guns) or almost obsolet stuff (35mm, Rapier)
so shut up about OpSec
I as a sergeant myself have only handeld a Fillgun for the radios like twice (once in the radio course, then during the RS)
>>30354206
>He has never worked with Tessiner
Holy shit these guys are almost more useless than the Welsch, and that is saying something...
>>30354208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXWUCmeUF9o
>>30354016
Meiringen!!! I was there as long service from 2014 to May 2015,
I probably stayed in the same bunker as you
I originally worked in Payerne but got sent to MEI because the other guy only spoke French, I at least spoke english and french
Worked exclusively on F/A18s
MEI was the best deployment because our detachment had a chef and that part of the country is amazingly beautiful and the beer there is good.
I discovered 4Chan because I was bored out of my scull waiting for those hornets to land
If you get a chance, go into hangar 3 (or 4 maybe) where they keep the F/A18s you'll see a picture that a comrade and I drew on the whiteboard by the PC. I'm the guy with the big smile and a South African flag above his head. Hope it didn't get erased.
Tfw I'm back in South Africa... I'll miss those days
>>30354517
Hand in your Passport right now! Badmouthing glorious swiss craftmanship should be punishable by banishment
>>30354957
I hope not, I still want to become an Adjutnant there, which by itself is hard enough since I come from the logistic troops
>>30355148
Why the fuck would anyone go to the gays with re wine red barrets?
>>30355154
because I thought when I made Waffenmechaniker I could go fix tank cannons but those faggots assigned me to the 35mm, Lyss was a nice town and base but I wanted tanks
>>30354016
how long have you been there?
>>30355237
I know the feeling. I was told I was going to become a loadmaster on a Super Puma then on the last day of RS they told me I was ground crew on F/A18s, ce la vie
>>30353954
Are you actually issued Swiss army knives
>>30355072
If you are a logistic sergeant it's normal to never touch a filgun.
I have the sprenger/explosive specialisation and I have learned some things that it's better to say openly. Plus some knowledge like urbain combat (KIUG) or sensitive location (special nomination to this dumb fuck >>30355102 who gives the exact storage location of our F/a-18) should be kept "secret". Not only be cause it could end in bad hands but it's part of our strategical adventage.
>>30355094
Fuck you. There is as many lazy asses with the Welsh than with your Spunz.
The thing that you'll never understand is that being in advance and wait 15' in rund position like a mongo doesn't make you a better soldier.
But I agree for the Tessiner. They are the worst soldiers I have seen.
>>30355356
It's better NOT TO SAY openly *
>>30353954
Was gabs zu mittag?
>>30353954
Do you know where the küsche and foufou put all the choclate?
>>30355356
I am a Tessiner myself and while I agree on the dime-a-dozen tessiner companies, the motivated ones are among the best soldiers I know (and I say this having also worked with a number of foreign militaries).
>>30354349
Its german now. Since 2000. Any association with Switzerland, swiss quality and so on should be ceased. A decline in quality was already to be observed with the P220 the first cowork with the Saurer company.
>>30353954
Where can a germanfag buy replacement tritium insert for the diopter and nachtkorn on his 551?
found the mb microtech trigalight insert made in swiss with the right measurements, but seems like no one in germany is selling to civillian market.
Who builds them for the swiss army?
Where can i buy them or similar ones in Switzerland or EU?
Danke Schweiz für dieses Gewehr!
>>30355072
>Stinger is classified
I also work (for some reason) with the SE 138. (not the one plebs get).
Also
>Wachtmeister
A seargent should know his place and know when he has to shut up.
>>30355356
Implying exact location was disclosed, hangar 4 could be anywhere
>>30354957
Are you a KpKdt? If not then we have still the abolishment problem.
>>30355367
Gschnätzlets und Rösti (iz ke witz). Sehr guete KüChef.>>30355440
In their own trunk.
>>30354957
That's bullshit. We are developing new 140mm guns for our Panzers and new applique armor sets, we won't get rid of the old Leo2 for a while.
>>30355451
There is no intermediate when it comes to Tessiner.
In the first case they're are very motivated and very good soldiers.
In the second case they're lazy fat asses that are only capable of jerking off and complaining all the fucking day. And the problem is that the second case is the majority of the Tessiner.
>>30355497
>Its german now
I know but I don't understand why the swiss quality and knowledge should ceased if the only think that is german is the owners. SwissArms is completely based in Switzerland. Even the leaders of the company are still here.
Plus SwissArms products are still recognized as excellent. I personally didn't notice problems or low quality in the Stgw90 or the mags. They are just fucking amazing and accurate. I would have liked to test SIG's Stgw90 to compare.
And why didn't the government nationalized (even partially) SwissArms to keep at least some control on it like for Ruag? Why other swiss armament companies didn't take SwissArms instead of the Germans?
>>30355546
>SE-138
Never seen or heard of it. Which branch of the military uses it?
>>30355356
you should probably check Wikipedia more often senpai
>>30355635
>And why didn't the government nationalized (even partially) SwissArms to keep at least some control on it like for Ruag? Why other swiss armament companies didn't take SwissArms instead of the Germans?
The same reason why the SBB is still half privatized. Idiots went and sold the companies of the confederation and ruined a perfect system for some quick and cheep money.
As of the radio. My company has it, because preparedness 365 24/7 as for others I dont know.
>>30355532
Ask directly to SwissArms. They make the Sig55x. They should have an after-sales service.
http://www.swissarms.ch/de/index.html
>>30355573
>Are you a KpKdt? If not then we have still the abolishment problem.
I do you mean? I don't understand. Abolishment of what? The panzer? And what could a KpKdt do alone to change it?
>>30355624
The guy said that the M-109 will be retired and replaced by some artillery-trucks.
And all the other Panzer will be storage in 2018 for economical save and the futur drivers and tank-crews will only work with simulators.
>>30355669
Why?
>>30355681
Do you think there is still hope for SwissArms? Could the government take it again at least partially and associate it to RUAG for exemple?
Also does anyone know why RUAG stopped the Panzer production in the 80'?
>>30355721
Well if a Korpskommandant. In the best case Andrey were to say we keep the tanks then that would change already a lot.
>>30355746
>Also does anyone know why RUAG stopped the Panzer production in the 80'?
It wasnt profitabel anymore
>>30353954
Ha your funny the Swiss don't have an army
>>30355746
That couldnt happen. We would have to pay WAY too much to get them back, never mind the lefties screaming out about muh neutral switzerland buying an armsfactory (them being oblivious to the fact that it was once national).
The tanks were halted due to the Werterhaltung. We sold like 250 tanks. The remaining 136 got upgraded. So Id say missing demand. I go eat now and come back with a picture.
>>30354120
Schreibt man schweizisches Deutsch wirklich so?
>>30355803
Jein
Chund drufa us welere egge das chunsch...
>>30355766
>>30355721
thx, will ask directly to swiss arms about the tritium inserts. but i never saw these parts in their catalogues and on their contact sheet the first data they demand as mandatory is Firma/Behörde so i think they hate and try to avoid their civilian customers just like HK. Maybe i have to contact swiss retail dealers too
>>30355886
You could try with swiss armories too. They often have Sig55x rifles and pieces/accessories
>>30355546
>SE 138
We used that on guard duty in Lyss
>A seargent should know his place and know when he has to shut up.
I do, but it's not like I know anything about the 35mm that would be classified, maybe the laser, but that's non of my buisness since i'm not an Gerätemechaniker
>>30355766
I know. Its a militia.
>>30353954
Why does the pope like using you as bodyguards
![DSC_1140[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fU4DwM9.jpg "DSC_1140[1].jpg")
>>30353954
As promissed. Swiss army food.
Risotto, aspargus, doughnuts, a peach and Suuser as drink.
>>30355758
Well the Panzer 68 affaire is to blame, the idiots in the VBS (then EMD) tried to cover up all the faults but of course they leaked to the press, like the Mirage-Affaire
So they didn't want to take the risk of yet another failure (even though the problems with the Panzer 68 were fixed in the later upgrades) and reduce some cost and simply bought Leos
>>30355748
KpKdt means "kompanie komandant" not "korps komandant". That's why I didn't understood you.
>>30356000
>The famous shitty red tea tho
You'd better drink water.
>>30355993
Because back in 1506 we were the most badass motherfuckers money could get you, so the pope hired swiss mercenarys
>>30356010
It seams to be a competition between our officials for who will be the most retarded mongrel that can fuck up our armament industry and our army...
>>30356023
Oh yeah sry that p slipped in there.
>Best thing about the shitty tea is, you can replace it with Suser and have the same visual.
>>30356061
RIP WF Bern / KW Thun
Are older rifles, such as the K31, STG-57, etc. still kept in the Swss Army's inventory, or have they been completely retired from service?
Also, are Swiss Army Knives (like the victornox ones) actual swiss army issue things or is the whole S.A.K thing a marketing gimmick?
>>30356096
Very few are in storage. (Also with retirement the officers in charge associate it with the total annihilation of any part.)
The Soldatenmesser 08 is. The red ones I dont know if they were before.
>>30356096
>Are older rifles, such as the K31, STG-57, etc. still kept in the Swss Army's inventory, or have they been completely retired from service?
Yes there is old weapons and ammo still kept in storage. I don't know how many.
>Also, are Swiss Army Knives (like the victornox ones) actual swiss army issue things or is the whole S.A.K thing a marketing gimmick?
Swiss Knifes are made by a private company: Victorinox. This company (and Wenger) is the official provider of knife for the Swiss Army (bayonets and soldats knifes).
This is the "swiss knife" for the soldiers. The former one were with a steel cover and those still before had wooden cover. The red ones are for the civilian market and of very good quality too.
>>30354120
damn son, switzerdütch is disgusting even writen
>>30356268
Do you know why the swiss-germans don't use stones to build their houses? Because they put them in their mouthes to speak.
Do you know why the swiss-germans can't properly write? Because they are wildlings from the Waldstätten.
wuerdisch dini schwizer staatsbuergerschaft ufgeh fuer d us marines? i bin sid es par johr in da usa und die frau vor schwizer botschaft hed mier mitteild das i d staatsbuergerschaft verluera werdi wenni dr marine infanteri bitreta.
>>30356535
>>30354192
>I drank a lot of beer with some bundeswehr guys at a military exhibition once.
tell me more
>>30353954
do you sing cadence while marching?
if so, then what?
>>30356096
>Are older rifles, such as the K31, STG-57, etc. still kept in the Swss Army's inventory, or have they been completely retired from service?
Noup we sadly dont have them anymore
In fact they destroyed about 50000 new Stgw 57 in the mid 90ties...
I could cry if i think about it to hard
I am German.
Would you still hate it if I came down to Switzerland for more freedoms?
>>30356535
Why would you lose it just for getting a job?
>>30356601
Not this poster... but it sounds boring as fuck
I was a few jears ago at a military shooting competition in poland.
After the shooting was done i drank with the Germans a few beer, a few more with the Austrians and the French guys
After that some wodka with the Norwegian or Finish guys (idk i was already pretty drunk)
And then we finished the evening with some moonshine with the Poland soldiers
The next day i had the hangover of my life and had to sit in the back of my friends truck back to Switzerland
Tltr: got drunk as fuck with soldiers from half of europe and puked two times on german highways
>>30353954
Why does it take so long to become a Swiss citizen?
>>30356792
We already have to much garbage with our passport. We dont want more than necesary
>>30356727
You got to be kidding me.. Why the fuck didn't they sale the rifles? I know there is some leftist law on weapon exportation but the rifles could have been at least sold to the swiss civil market...
>>30356755
cuz joining another countries military while being a citizen of a neutral fo life country is no bueno? the embassy chick said that i could get the citizenship back at some point in the future but it would be quite expensive.
>>30356824
I wish that was a bad joke
They stocked full on everything (including weapons) until the end of the cold war. They had them left wen they bought the Stgw 90. No Country could, or would pay for this guns chambered in gp11 and our traitor parlament singned a international contract which prevents the swiss armed forces to sell any weapons to the civilian marked. So they throwed truckloads of new, perfectly fine guns in a shreder
And today the guys from the sniper scools complain they would like to have .308 as dmrs
>>30356792
I personally think that it is way too easy to have swiss citizenship.
The conditions should more like this:
-At least 15 years as permanent resident (with no foreign trip longer than 1 month).
-PERFECT knowledge of one national language and partially knowledge of a seconde national language .
-PERFECT knowledge of history and cultural legacy of Switzerland (it means a real test and not asking the name of 3 swiss mountain and if 4 cantons).
-PERFECT knowledge of political institutions.
-Good testimonial from 50 swiss citizen.
-Islam as religion is a NO-GO.
-Must have a job and not be with social assistance.
-No minore crimes or delinquency (implying that major crimes is an automatic deportation to the border if your not swiss).
-The final decision to give or not the citizenship should be made by the people in every town and Canton.
The citizenship should be also accompanied with probation period of 2 or 3 years in which citizenship could be removed if any crimes are commit.
The persons should also do some sort of civilian or paramilitary (more like civil protection and without weapons) service during this period to validate their citizenship.
And we should deport way more parasites to the border.
>>30356738
>Would you still hate it if I came down to Switzerland for more freedoms?
Yes. Create it yourself.
>>30355298
Yes. It's a specific model that was only issued for the army but Victorinox sell it since like 10 years or so
>>30356535
>>30356868
You are a fucking traitor. It's normal that you loose your citizenship. You should even be extradited here and be hang like a fag.
I hop jews in Washington will send you to some middle eastern shithole to kill and rape by goatfuckers du arschloch
>>30356738
Why do you want to flee and don't stay in your country to fight for more freedom, eh?
>>30355886
Just go to to any swiss military arsenal
>>30356955
>tfw no Stgw 57 DMR
Life is suffering
>>30353954
Is it true everyone in Switzerland hates each other, even people who are just from different towns?
>>30356268
Because swiss german isn't supposed to be written
>>30357109
Wyssen Defence has a conversion kit for the 57 now. Looks sexy.
>>30357131
Yes but we hate others even more the second they show up.
>>30357131
Basically the Romandie hates the Swissgerman part and the Swissgerman part hates the Romandie
>>30353954
Have you ever personally experienced or seen any of the Sig 55X series rifles fail or kaboom?
>My SIG 553
>>30357177
The flash hider on the 553 is ugly as fuck though
>>30357109
Stgw 57 DMR
pretty sad
i know some of the gusy who train the Snipers and DMR soldiers
most of them own such a DMR and everyone knows how important such a system would be but 20 years ago no one saw it this way which is why they destroyed them
on the other side they think about buying Sig SAPR in .308 instead which is nice
>>30357107
Are you stupid or what? He's german. How could he simply go in an army arsenal if he wasn't in the military and isn't even swiss plus his rifle has nothing to do with the military..
>>30357131
We do not really hate each other. It's more like a joke. But we truly hate foreigners, etc. In fact we mostly hate everybody especially the european cucked faggots.
We may somehow like you if you do business with us.
How are the civilian weapon laws in switzerland and is it hard to immigrate from austria, also would i be ok with german?
>>30353954
Why the hell are you always on the trams and buses in your uniform? Don't you have a job to do? Or is professional bus riding a role in the swiss army?
>>30357201
Not the anon but you can go and buy replacement pieces for your rifle even though you're not/weren't in the army.
Don't know about the obligation of being swiss though but it would be pretty obvious you have to be
>>30357131
Yes but we hate foreigners even more
>>30357201
>>30357236
>enforcing the stereotypes
It's not good for us you know
>>30357190
This is not the original Sig553 flash hider.
>>30357196
Wow.. Sand painting truly entirely change the Stgw57 general aspect. With the scope it's in fact fucking beautiful! I need to buy one and transform it on DMR.
Do you know if modified Stgw57/90 are accepted on federal ranges?
>>30357226
It's mendatory to wear your uniform when you go back home from the army or when you return to your base from home
>>30357259
>>30357226
How else do we get home on the weekends? Most already go by car.
Some 20 years ago it was still mandatory to stay in uniform even at home. So I guess that became better.
I wish my country was neutral...
>>30357331
Which one would that be?
>>30357258
Convertions, beside the accepted ones, are not acceptet
kidding aside
as far as i know there are onels certen diopter and bipod modifications accepted, basicli the same you are allowed to use in competitions such as the FS or the OP
but if you are a member of your local clup and they are not fagots they wont say anything
i shoot with my convertet k31 and other shit all the time. it isnt a problem untill they make it a problem or the schooting inspector finds you
but since i know him....
>>30357345
United States
>>30357366
Know any native Romanch speakers?
>>30357216
>How are the civilian weapon laws in switzerland
-Only need to get a background check for Bolt-action rifle (it took 2 days for the background check)
-Only need background check and licence (it took 2 weeks and is only paperwork) to get a semi-auto rifle, shotgun, or handgun.
-No need of medical evaluation or other shits.
-Once you got your guns no need to do something to keep them. They're truly yours.
-No mags or ammo limits.
-Only auto weapons are hard to get for civilians.
> is it hard to immigrate from austria
You'll need to find a job. I don't exactly know the conditions. It's pretty hard to get citizenship.
But as Austria you shouldn't have cultural difficulties to integrate.
>also would i be ok with german
You'd better learn switzerdutsch or you'll be bully.
Is this your rifle? If yes, it is from your military service? Do austrians keep their military rifles too?
>>30357366
THE REVIVAL OF AMERICAN ISOLATIONISM!
VOTE TRUMP 2016
>>30357387
You're more likely to have AIDS than knowing someone who speaks Rumantsch
>>30357387
>tfw there is more people speaking albanian than romanch in your own country
>>30357363
But what about painting it and/or putting a scope like in the pic?
>>30357394
It was my assigned rifle, during my military service, sadly we can't keep our weapons afterwards.
Otherwise our weapon laws are about the same as yours tho, but eu and our goverment are about to fuck it up, that's why I'm doing research of other countries,which i might consider, so far I liked all swiss tourists/immigrants i met.
>>30357496
Well Switzerland will have to comply to EU gun law via Shengen accords so...
>>30357485
Scope is still a conversion not aproved for competition. I am not kidding they just went through an entire soap opera wether or not matchbarrels may be used and if theyd have to make a new class or rearange the competition classes.
Shits ridiculus.
>>30354608
Lucky. We're up to $300usd if you can find one, and people are asking $5-600usd. Gp11 is up to like .60 a round. I hope they import some more, Ive been wanting one for a long time.
>>30357430
>>30357401
Always thought it sounded like a drunk german speaking Latin.
What stereotypes do the german, french, and Italian Swiss, hold about each other?
>>30357485
Scope is a no go, diopters are OK
>>30357503
Fuck off with that shit. We wont. If they try they can get the consequences.
>>30357485
My k31 is painted in freen/brown tan, half of the wood is chopped off and i have a 4-16x4 scope on it... as i mentioned as long as they arent dickheads and you know them they wont say shit
but it is appropriate to ask before you take your big bad sniper rifle with you because the got the fine if someone rats you out
>>30357097
lose not loose aber ok i kuma zrug ind schwiz und mach kv lehr wie 75% vo da jugendlicha.
>>30357503
Fuck the EUSSR... we hate thoes bastards and they wont push a economic war upon us over such a topic.
>>30357538
YOU MURDERD A STOCK! Why didnt you just make a new one?!?
>>30357531
French part think of the Swiss-Germans as dumb rascist hillbillies but has nothing against the Italian part. Swiss-Germans think the French-Swiss are all rich know-it-all
>>30357503
>>30357533
I kinda really hope that you guys boycott this shit, our politicians said they will, but they are pussies and probably won't keep their word.
>>30357560
how the fuck would i make a new one? i have half a dozend k31s and i used one i dont care about. the others are still in fine condition and stored for my children and their children
>>30357503
No this will never happened. Fuck them.
>>30357518
For competition but does it apply to simply go shooting at the range as spare-time?
I understand that for federal competition only military and non-modified weapon can be used. ut why the fucking fuck can't we just simply go shooting at federal ranges with an AK (for exemple) as long as it is a semi-auto rifle? That's clearly retarded. And Private ranges are fucking expensive compared to federal ranges.
>>30357531
It sounds more like portuguese
>>30357579
Not the anon you're replying to, but:
>Get a piece of walnut
>Carve it
>Fit the receiver and barrel
>>30357576
This is what I and my section have sworn after my promotion. Out of the way of the Kadi of course: «Es schwören oder geloben die Offiziere, Unteroffiziere und Soldaten:
Der Eidgenossenschaft Treue zu halten;
für die Verteidigung des Vaterlandes und seiner Verfassung Leib und Leben aufzuopfern;
die Fahne niemals zu verlassen;
die Militärgesetze treulich zu befolgen;
den Befehlen der Oberen pünktlichen und genauen Gehorsam zu leisten;
strenge Mannszucht zu beobachten und alles zu tun, was die Ehre und Freiheit des Vaterlandes erfordert.»
«Ich schwöre es.»
I will do anything to prevent ANY harm coming to switzerland or our citizens. And this threat is of course one of them.
>>30357627
>an't we just simply go shooting at federal ranges with an AK
see >>30357363
as long as the guys cover you it is possible but it is sadly not exactly legal
>>30357579
Its simple I modified my K31 myself. I carved it out of Stieleichen wood. Took me like 3 weeks (at the evenings of course.
>>30357538
You fucking do what nigger?
>>30357633
yeah i am a lazy potato and know shit about wood carving
there are several companys selling aftermarked stocks but they are either fucking heavy other 2k shekels
so i used a fucked up one i which had nothing special on it
>>30357647
I know that. But is it -legally- forbidden to shoot at a federal range with another legal weapon than a military mandatory one? What is their excuse for this bullshit?
>>30357700
You can shoot whatever you want in a private range, but in "public" ones you can only shoot weapons for sport shooting
>>30357637
This is what i have sworn
"Ich gelobe, mein Vaterland, die Republik Österreich,
und sein Volk zu schützen und mit der Waffe zu Verteidigen;
ich gelobe, den Gesetzen und den gesetzmäßigen Behörden
Treue und Gehorsam zu leisten, alle Befehle meiner Vorgesetzten
pünktlich und genau zu befolgen und mit allen meinen Kräften
der Republik Österreich und dem österreichischen Volk zu dienen"
No word of the EU or retarded politicians whatsoever, I love my coutry, but they are fucking destroying it
>>30357700
Its a federal range. You dont like their rules? Go shoot somewhere else for fun. Basicly this.
>>30354684
>>30354693
Is that an insult in Switzerland?
>>30357700
Because law. It's a FEDERAL range aka run by the government. If you want to shoot your AK just go to a private one
>>30357718
See you at the burning EU-Parliament Kamerad.
>>30357700
this >>30357715
their excuse... who the fuck knows they are a bunch of retard old tradionalists
i asume it is because the army pays a fucking lot and they want not suport other weapons than what the army uses or used
>>30353954
What country is the Swiss army preparing to fight against ?
>>30357740
Of course, kamerad
>>30357729
Yes because Ex-Yugoslavians are nigger-tier here, as pol would put it.
>>30357746
Well you can use whatever pistol you want if it's chambered in 9mm in a federal range. The limitation is only for rifles
>>30357729
we hate all
JUGOs
Junge
Ungebildete
Gewalttätige
Osteuropäer
young, uneducatet, violen easteuropeans
>>30357748
All countries
>>30357748
>using the singular
>>30357770
http://www.fst-ssv.ch/PortalData/1/Resources/dokumente/verband/dokumente_verband_allgemein/2_10_04_d_RSpS_TR_Pistole_2010.pdf
At our range they dont care as long as it doesnt have enough energy to damage the backstop, so .45 and up.
>>30357770
As far as i know onely the ones the army oter one of the many policecorps uses or used
but this means most of the guns
>>30357790
These are the "allowed ones"
- SIG-Pistolen P 210-1 P 210-2,
P 210-4, P 210-6, P 210-6S
(alle diese Pistolen auch in
der Ausführung „Heavy
Frame“)
1360 gr rot C E
- SIG-Sauer Pistolen P 220,
P 225, P 226, P 228, P 229,
P 239, SIG Pro SP 2009, SIG
Pro SPC 2009, SIG Sauer SP
2022, SPC 2022
- Sphinx-Pistolen AT 2000,
AT 3000
- Glock-Pistolen 17, 19, 26
>>30357678
Lol, fair enough I guess, I would be fine with someone doing this to an unremarkable nugget, I guess.
K31s are beautiful, though. (Albeit with fucked up stocks most of the time.)
>>30357746
I don't recall swiss army using Glock 17
>>30357812
Some started doing it.
>>30357748
All in existence and even some that dont exist anymore
>>30357818
Some random army guy using a Glock doesn't mean the government issued Glocks to the army
>>30357770
That's even more retarded. They could be completely logical and at least ban every pistol except (ex-)military ones or accept all rifles chambered in .223.
>>30357812
The Police does
And in the Army the Glock is used by the professional SF guys
AAD10 and MP Spez Det
>>30357830
As in KSK started using it, down in Isone.
>>30357830
glocks are a standard issue sidearm you dumbass. why do you think you can use them in sports shooting nowadays? dumbass.
>>30357856
P210s are ordinance. Glocks aren't
>>30353954
Does your army accept only men? What are the physical requirements to be in the Swiss army? What rank are you?
>>30354517
>ugly
YOU WANNA FIGHT M8
I'll CROSS THE ALPS FROM MY CALIPHATE TO BEHEAD YOU IF YOU DON'T DELET
>>30357873
ordinance means used by the army or the military you fucking retard
the glock is used by the Police of
Freiburg
Waadt
Genf
...
>>30357881
It's mendatory for every men from 18 to 25 but women can go to the army if they want
>>30357873
Glocks are ordinance now in KSK including Isone and many polices use them.
>>30357881
>physical requirements
if the doctor thinks you arent fit enough or you are sick some other shit you will not be acceptet
the requirements are different in every branch
>>30357856
>>30357893
Only recently dumbass. Glocks were accepted before that
>>30357889
>I'll CROSS THE ALPS FROM MY CALIPHATE
Germoney is that you?
>>30357873
SWISS ARMY SELECTS GLOCK AS NEW SERVICE PISTOL
von GLOCK Inc., Dienstag, 3. Mai 2011 um 17:31
Army Declares GLOCK as Winner of Evaluation for Special Forces Duty Weapon
Smyrna, GA (May 3, 2011) – Today, GLOCK Ges.m.b.H. located in Deutsch-Wagram, Austria, announced that the Swiss Army has chosen GLOCK as the new service pistol for the Swiss Army Special Forces. The evaluation process was conducted by three independent elements of the Swiss Army: The Army Reconnaissance 10 (AAD 10: Armee Aufklärungsdetachement), a specialized unit of the Swiss Army (Special Forces) and the Swiss Military Security Agency (MilSich) tested the capabilities and efficiencies of the GLOCK pistol in the field of operations, while the technical evaluation was handled by the national evaluation and procurement agency “armasuisse”.
The GLOCK Pistol models ultimately selected were the GLOCK 17 Gen4 and GLOCK 26 Gen4 9x19 semi automatic pistols, as well as the Blue GLOCK Training pistol, the GLOCK 17T Gen4 and GLOCK 26T Gen4 which will have the ability to fire both FX and ATK Force on Force marking ammunition.
The Swiss Army began their search for a new duty pistol in 2009- GLOCK pistols excelled during field testing as the Army found them superior in ease of handling which provided evaluators superior capability to score hits during target acquisition drills.
“GLOCK is very proud to have been competitively chosen by the Swiss Army over all other competition,” said GLOCK Vice President Josh Dorsey. “GLOCK was chosen for this project due to the reliability and durability that have made GLOCK pistols famous. GLOCK’s focus remains on providing safe, simple and fast pistols to those that go in harm’s way. Our firearms are designed for these individuals to succeed and survive in any situation.”
The first round of GLOCK pistols will be issued to replace the existing SIG 220 and SIG Pro pistols being de-commissioned.
>>30357928
fucking kek
FlplSiKp7 reporting in
>>30357954
>posting your classification on fucking 4chan
you are a special retart arent you
>>30357954
>FlplSiKp7
How are your Porters? Are the pilots already home watching the match? Your being too specific gopfertami.
How is military spending these days? Do you still have adequate funds for training, ammo, support arms &etc?
Do you guys know how service pistol is chosen in the Policies? I have seen different guns in the same police. Do every policeman have a choice of pistol for personal weapon?
>>30357943
These mongrels could have chosen a swiss one... Why didn't they bought a Sig p226 for exemple?
>>30357990
No. We dont even have a third of what we would need.
>>30357758
Can you tell them apart from Albanians?
T. Ex yu fag
>>30357776
>YUGOS ARE JUGOS
thats fucking clever. I love switzerland but its a shame you are getting infested with Albanians. I KNOW your pain
>>30357999
>Sig
>Swiss
>unknowledge in this day and age
Do your homework.
>>30358005
We dont need to they are the same.
>>30358013
>what is SAN SwissArms
