https://meduza.io/en/news/2016/06/20/russian-state-television-accidentally-broadcasts-evidence-that-moscow-uses-cluster-bombs-in-syria
Kek @ Putinbots
And the problem with that is?
>>30351916
Proof Russia is making the refugee crisis even worse, we all know that's going to be bombing the Sunni Arab parts
>>30351941
Even more than there already is*
>>30351941
Explain your reasoning that cluster bombs = refugees.
>>30351941
>refugees
How can there be refugees if the cluster bombs are doing their job?
>>30351988
Dude.
Imprecise munitions are the exact opposite of counter insurgency warfare.
>>30351988
>gif proofs americansky
>russya does nothing wrong, why hate russya
>>30351988
>>30352007
>be RuAF
>getting raped with ukraine sanctions
>bomb the fuck out of sunni arab areas with rebel forces and/or isis
>force more Syrians to flee to Europe
>italy and Hungary, transit countries in Europe for refugees, hold meeting with russia
>decide not to extend sanctions on russia
Pretty easy to understand russia is weaponizing the refugees against Europe
>>30352010
You are not doing a good job of explaining how cluster bombs = refugees.
>>30352149
>be sunni sand nigger in syria
>RuAF blows up half your village and completely misses rebels or isis targets
>fuck it going to germoney
>Russia bombs the shit out of you
>flee to EU/America
>they reluctantly accept you
>go snackbar on your new neighbors because they don't believe what you believe
why don't they terrorize Russia? get back at the people actually causing you harm? am i taking crazy pills to think this?
>>30352202
We already know Russia is primarily using unguided munitions, so are you going to get around to explaining why >cluster< bombs = refugees?
>>30352286
christ dude
>>30352269
Because while Russia is many things, it's not a bunch of emasculated eunuch cunts who can't do anything about themselves but cry and feel sorry and then slowly slit its wrists
And yes I'm talking about the EU
>>30352269
>>30352336
Or maybe look at a map
>>30351988
al Nusra members get demoralized and become refugees
europe benefits from the cultural enrichment, turkey gets its money, hillary loses an ally, putin wonders why arabs are so incompentent
>>30352269
Russia already has a very large muslim population and some of the nicest mosques in eastern Europe, theyve already taken in hundreds of thousands of refugees, but from Ukraine mostly, 750000 fleeing civil war, those 750000 were denied entering the eu, they chose to take in Muslims instead of white people
>>30352269
Because russia actually has the balls to defend their borders from invaders (sorry, refugees) with lethal force.
>>30352105
damn, I gotta admit that it sounds like something the Russians would do
>>30352269
Russia has a pretty clear "start shit, get hit" policy in regards to terrorism
>>30351866
I don't you making threads when Israel does it...
>>30352269
did you completely forget about the chechens
you know, the same chechens that putin has to pay off so they don't start shit
>>30351866
They're using incendiary bombs too and Saudi Arabia has been using cluster bombs in Yemen for a year but its not like anybody gives a fuck. Way back in 2004 the USAF dropped whitey pete on Falluja, that was illegal as hell.
Good. Fuck em.
All Europe has to do is say no to refugees.
Russia didn't open the door to Europe, Merkel and others did that.
The refugee crisis pre-dates the Russian intervention anyway most of these 'refugees' aren't Syrian.
If Europe has decided to commit suicide of its own volition you can hardly pin it on Putin.
>>30351866
Who cares, they should be using nukes on the fuckers
>>30353740
Yup
>>30353737
Brexit and bust please
Then I want a Nexit
>>30353758
We can only hope, but I fear people will be taken in by the remain camp's economic arguments.
People will sacrifice centuries of culture and tradition for a short term economic benefit, I sometimes wonder if we don't deserve everything we get.
>>30351866
Kekekek putinbot BTFO! Get embarrassed russian shills! Kekekekekek
Am I doing it right? Can I fit in now?
>>30351941
So who cares? You think refugees is Russia's problem? The only source of refugee related problems is allowing refugees to migrate, as it makes that nation welcoming. Most refugees first stop is Greece if they were not rescued by the Italian coast guard.
>>30351941
>Russia is making the refugee crisis worse
There wouldn't be a refugee crisis at all if Western Europe just told the mudshits to stay in their own country.
>>30353403
To think that we could be overrun with hot ukrainian chicks but instead we'll be having ugly hairy syrian cunts.
Russia uses cheap unguided bombs from ww2? still manages to hit sandniggers and what not = problem ?
USA/NATO use best of the best tax payer precision weapons . .100% obliterating wedding parties , schools , hospitals , empty truck left by terrorists and don't forget the Chinese embassy in the middle of a FUCKING CITY in that war which I don't really remember and Russia's the baddie here ?
>>30353907
It's funny how people expect so little of Russia that if, within their bombing of entire populations, they somehow managed to kill some enemy fighters, they're doing good. Meanwhile 100% accuracy is expected of USA/NATO.
>>30353922
Different strategic goals. US/NATO advertises all of this as being part of a greater war on terror and radical islamism which means people expect them to be able to remove religious extremism using guided munitions, all Russia is doing is backing their boy Assad, meaning they can level whole cities full of civilians and as long as those were anti-Assad they chalk it up as a win.
>>30353899
Syrian girls have nice eyes
>>30353740
Or at least the Neutron bomb.
Fuck I miss that bastard.
>>30353953
Small portion of the population compared to Ukraine though.
>>30353907
idk what you're talking about
those weapons performed 100% accurate
they hit what they were aimed at
>>30353737
>If Europe has decided to commit suicide of its own volition you can hardly pin it on Putin.
If sabateans have decided to commit genocide of the white european population you can hardly pin it on Putin.
FTFY
I see reddit shill crew is trying to stink up this place too.
Piss off already, will you?
>>30353737
>All Europe has to do is say no to refugees.
Not that easy considering the proximity besides they need it for their aging population
>Russia didn't open the door to Europe, Merkel and others did that.
It was happening way before that
>The refugee crisis pre-dates the Russian intervention anyway most of these 'refugees' aren't Syrian.
And the manlet is clearly making it worse
ITT: Putinbots
Daily reminder most of those far right anti immigration parties across Europe get money from Moscow, there's a reason all of them campaign for a better relationship with Russia
Russia clearly is also worsening the Syrian refugee crisis
>>30353907
The difference is Russia does the exact same thing and denies. The west does it confirms it, apologizes and tries to make it better by paying them goats or whatever
>>30351866
>"accidentally"
You cannot be so naive, can you?
>>30354171
Read the article retard
>>30354110
> they need it for their aging population
Then they should address the problem behind them aging population instead of replacing their population with outsiders.
Besides, automation is going to make a large segment of the lower IQ population unemployable.
Europe isn't just an economic area, it's culture and success has come about because of European people. Replacing them with third worlders will give you a third world Europe.
>>30354121
So do you disagree with far right position on immigration and other policies?
Do you support more Muslims, more regulations, more bans?
Do you support TTIP?
If you do, you're far bigger threat to Europe than Russia.
You don't get it do you? EU is bad for Europeans. The alleged fact Russia funds right-wing (never proven by the way) is irrelevant.
Between Russians and neoliberal cabal that aims to replace European population and make everyone flavored Americans, Russians, always Russians.
>>30353907
gotta use up those stocks amirite
>>30351941
Any bombing campaigns will displace residents, the fact that they are using cluster bombs doesn't mean anything.
>>30353907
>and don't forget the Chinese embassy in the middle of a FUCKING CITY
That was done on purpose actually.
>>30354866
They deserved it though
>>30351916
ISIS is basically a bunch of violent assholes who moved into civilian zones. And did shit like raid Yazidi towns, murder the men, and take the women as sex slaves. Targeted bombing gives the people stuck under their iron bootheels a chance to escape, usually to refugee camps in Kurdistan. Random, indiscriminate bombing just pisses everyone off and potentially adds to ISIS' ranks.
>>30353758
>Brexit universally considered economically disastrous for Britain by people who actually study and understand it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAgKHSNqxa8
>>30351941
So? Europe keeps fucking letting them in instead of cluster bombing the fucking rapefugees.
>>30352269
Fucking tatars need to be deported.
>>30351941
>Proof Russia is making the refugee crisis even worse
Wut? Putin is in charge of their borders now?
>>30351916
RT always bitches about how the US, UK, Saudi Arabia and/or Israel always use them
>>30355671
Yeah, but modern Western cluster munitions have safety systems and secondary detonators so you don't have half-cocked duds littering the battlefield.
>>30352269
Because Chechens got pacified, tartars are muslim but more anti-mudslime than average russian and ~stan citizens came there to work and are generally happy with what they get.
>>30353899
We are overran by Ukrainians, it's just Western Europeans that pretend to not know about their existence.
t. Pole.
>>30351866
>Euros getting buttmad about cluster munitions
I never understood this nonsense.
>>30355016
>believing Current Year man
kek
>>30352312
>>30352313
So no explanation of why you are treating cluster bombs differently?
>>30351941
That's fine, fuck sandniggers and fuck yuropoors.
>>30353705
>back in 2004 the USAF dropped whitey pete on Falluja, that was illegal as hell
Using WP is not illegal.
>>30355835
>Euros
Fuck off, no one cares.
>>30351941
>>30352010
Implying that after 5 years of civil war there are even any civilians left in Syria.
>>30355016
If John Oliver loves the EU so much, can we send him back to it?
>>30355943
On people and in civilian areas it's illegal. Marking targets is fine though.
>>30355795
you do still get some unexploded munitions, but it's like 2% and literally who cares anyway?
>>30355919
Fuck off, UKIP.
>>30351941
I would think that would make fewer refugees. Permanently fewer.
>Implying relevant nations signed that treaty
Blanda when?
>>30354130
>the US doesn't deny when it fucks up
>>30356674
pedder ass.
>>30351866
Fragmentation bombs are not equal to cluster bombs :c.
>>30355943
>>30356039
Isn't it the same as flamethrowers? You can use them, it's only illegal if you purposely fire it on civilians.
>>30351866
>Cluster bombs are bad, m'kay?
Fuck off, yropoor.
>>30356876
no, it' sonly legal if used to "illuminate" targets
also US didn't signed anything about flamethrowers and napalm so technicaly they can still use those
>>30356983
Smoke and illumination.
>>30351941
Syrian war has been going since 2011, frankly the same year NATO bombed Lybia. Russia has only begun its campaign less than a year ago and all of the sudden it is they who are the problem that causes millions of rapefugees? This must be one of the most pathetic propaganda attempts lately. Is NATO this desperate?
>>30357025
it makes a lot of sense considering sunnis weren't treated well by assad and oppose him. considering blowing the fuck out of them would force even more to flee would give the eu more problems but would make it easier for assad to regain control makes sense. italy and hungary agreed not to go ahead with ukraine sanctions on Russia for a reason
Russia obviously didn't cause the crisis but is obviously making it worse to leverage over Europe
>>30357408
It's USA's fault for not swallowing their pride and back Assad instead of supporting muh noble rebels. The only thing they are accomplishing is delaying an Assad victory. The only thing that will change that outcome is if they put troops on the ground which they won't.
>>30352286
Can I get a source on that image?
>>30355835
Princess ducking Diana, the queen of hearts and her ridiculous crusade against Britain's biggest export - selling weapons to third world lunatics.
>>30357714
Kozue panic. Nothing fascinating.
>>30357714
>>30358020
Guy gets turned into a girl for some reason or other, ends up letting them do whatever they want as a bro code thing.
There's another version of that pic less cropped where she's labelled as /d/, the guy behind is /h/, and the guy watching as he spanks is /e/.
>>30357646
The USA won't support Assad, that's going to in turn bolster Iran in the region. Besides Syria is already fragmented. The Kurds have already fought the SAA on a few times but stopped to focus on ISIS. Assad will never gain complete control.
>>30351866
>>30351941
Is this what it's like to be in the minds of the mentally disabled?
>>30354110
>creating giant over bearing governments
>turn it into a super over bearing government
>make it harder and harder for people to raise a family
>birth rates drop
>hurr durr we need this cheap labor to come in and literally replace the population that our retarded over bearing policies caused to go into decline.
>>30353737
This. Same with the US, we're having our own problems with mass immigration and illegal immigration. There is no reason wealthy and powerful developed nations can't enforce their borders and laws in their own lands. It's fucking ridiculous
>>30351941
That's funny, because wasn't it Hillary Clinton and her State Department in 2011 that initiated the Syrian civil war that triggered the Mudslime wave into flooding Europe?
And now she's running for President and not even executed like she deserves...
>>30361556
No it started when Assad started shooting at innocent protestors and torturing university kids
>>30361786
His country, his business. I'd rather Assad be over thrown without western intervention than have ISIS. Though part of the problem was the religious rebels in Syria got a shitton more funding and munitions from the Saudis than the more secular (read: less extreme) groups fighting against Assad. Either way it was a cluster fuck that no western country should have intervened in. Just let the middle east destroy itself.
>>30361168
What's it like sucking pappa putins dick and only watching RT
>>30361168
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35706238
Everyone has been saying this for months now
>>30361556
Nobody deserves to be executed for that kind of shit, the only people who deserve execution are fascists like Mussolini and Hitler.
>>30361853
>geopolitics are only black and white
KYS
>>30361786
LOL, this is what idiots actually believe. Go back to Facebook you blue-pill ass fuck.
There were even leaked State Department reports of Americans waiting for the right time to initiate an armed insurrections against Assad by playing up internal and sectarian divisions in the country.
They weapons and the people were already in place by the time Assad's police forces started shooting back.
Now go drink some bleach.
>>30361929
That's because instead of the leadership and media in the EU taking responsibility for not being able to take care of their borders they want to blame anything else, and in this case it's Russia. There are TONS of non-syrians flooding into Europe as well, most of them from Africa, most of them also flowing through Libya: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-11139345
Remember this? Well turns out it was more than just hollow threats and that Libya was really the cap on a flood of sub-Saharan immigration.
>>30361995
I think it's time I take you on a little helicopter ride
>>30361995
Oh look, an actual Shillbot from the Hillary web brigades.
>>30351941
>>30351988
There are no "refugees" left in Syria. Go cry somewhere else.
>>30352010
There's only two kinds of people in Syria: insurgents and future insurgents.
Kill them all, based Putin.
>>30362022
What exactly is wrong with what he said mr geo political analysis? It's clear Russia is doing it on purpose see >>30361929
>>30362052
Are you retarded? Do you think Assad is loved by all Syrians? He gave preferential treatment to his sect. Kurds have already battled the Syrian Arab Army if you have been watching the conflict. For obvious reasons a lot of Sunnis don't like him. The entire country has been divided as fuck, well before the civil war started
>>30351866
.....and cluster bombs are......what exactly?
Illegal?
I dont think so Tim.
>>30362069
If you can read you would have read that Russia is very clearly making the refugee crisis worse, not creating it
>>30362131
>What exactly is wrong with what he said mr geo political analysis? It's clear Russia is doing it on purpose see
The BBC is literally just as bad as RT, they're both state sponsored propaganda.
>>30362182
How are they making it worse though? Literally how?
>its a kommandos defend the likes of Jabhat al Nusra unironically episode
>>30352010
>Imprecise munitions are the exact opposite of counter insurgency warfare.
Russia's idea of counter insurgency warfare is to surround target area with Grads, Smerchs and rocket bomb everything back to the stone age. Then repopulate with Russians.
>>30353922
Because Russia went fucking bankrupt during the 90s and their military readiness fell back to 1930s level. The fact that they're maintaining such a competent military support in Syria is more than most analysts expected.
>>30362196
Of course, but it's been extremely clear to everyone that Putin is weponzing the Syrian refugees since they intervened. NATO is already aware of this since long ago
>>30362203
>RuAF bombs the fuck out of areas not in govt control
>usually areas with sunnis
>sunnis dont really like assad
>half the village is destroyed, opposition may or may not have been eliminated
>better go to Europe now that there's nothing left
>EU gets even more Syrians
>>30362292
Showing off all their new gear in Syria has also increased Russian defense contracts by a fuckton as well
>>30362341
>Of course, but it's been extremely clear to everyone that Putin is weponzing the Syrian refugees since they intervened. NATO is already aware of this since long ago
The whole concept is ridiculous. EVEN if it were true, the only people at fault here are the EU bureaucrats that want the "refugees" anywayw.
>>30362196
>The BBC is literally just as bad as RT, they're both state sponsored propaganda.
Yeah, no. The BBC at least tries to have journalistic integrity. RT is just straight-up propaganda.
>>30351866
Proof that those are cluster bombs???
>>30362203
The people trapped under ISIS are huge Intel sources when they escape, and killing them just pisses of their families.
Here the thing, though. ISIS WANTS infidel armies in Syria. They believe Allah will wipe us out when we come to fight them directly.
>>30362423
>Yeah, no. The BBC at least tries to have journalistic integrity. RT is just straight-up propaganda.
You're kidding me right? Have you seen their reporting on Brexit or gun control? The way they handle those two issues should be enough to convince you that they're just god awful shit. Just like RT.
>>30362474
Gun control, sure. When every single economic expert calls Brexit disastrous you should pay attention.
>>30362427
Article says that nameless "researches" deduced that the weapons were cluster bombs.
In short, no proof what so ever.
>>30362466
>The people trapped under ISIS are huge Intel sources when they escape, and killing them just pisses of their families.
>Here the thing, though. ISIS WANTS infidel armies in Syria. They believe Allah will wipe us out when we come to fight them directly.
>If we kill our enemies they win
Also, stop pretending like "ISIS" is the only "enemy" in Syria. Half of the opposition are fundamentalist Islamists and are just as bad as Daesh
>>30362369
It makes so much sense.
>sunni sand niggers don't like assad
>bomb all of them to oblivion
>force them to Europe
>make it easier to back control of contested areas
>Europeans more willing to come to terms with Russia
>italy, Hungary to veto Ukraine sanctions
>>30362494
>When every single economic expert calls Brexit disastrous you should pay attention.
Yeah, it will be shit for some big businesses but the dozen other issues that stem from being part of the EU far outweigh a brief recession. Also all those "economic experts" have vested interest in getting people to vote remain.
>>30362528
>It makes so much sense.
That's not an argument
>>30352269
Why? If you try raping a white woman in Russia in front of her father and mother chances are Russians will jump in and beat the fucking shit out of you. Unlike in Germany where everyone will lock their doors and turn away.
>>30362555
Which part of the green text doesn't make sense for you
>>30362539
>Everyone smarter than me in the subject has to be wrong!
>>30362585
>a white woman in Russia
Nice meme
>>30362585
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-german-girl-admits-making-up-claim-she-was-raped-by-refugees-in-berlin-a6845256.html
>Russian immigrants living in Berlin
Daily reminder Russia wants to create political tension in EU
>>30362601
>Everyone smarter than me in the subject has to be wrong!
Defaulting to authorities on a subject while also not understanding that subject is simply retarded. Oh but wait, they're "experts" so they always have the average Briton's interests in mind
>>30362688
When the only people really arguing for Brexit are The Racist Party, and their rebuttal to argument is "fuck the experts", I don't think I'm in the wrong here.
>>30362878
>The Racist Party
Oh, you're one of those people, huh?
>>30362894
When your actual UKIP politicians are on tape casually being racist you don't get to pretend that that's not what they are.
>>30362997
>When your actual UKIP politicians are on tape casually being racist you don't get to pretend that that's not what they are.
Oh? Then I guess the Labour party is antisemitic because a few of their members have said some crass stuff? Please specify what said UKIP members said that was actually racist.
>>30363036
*crass stuff about Israel
>>30363036
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAgKHSNqxa8
>>30363086
Not even him but
>the current year meme man
>>>/out/
>>30363086
>he takes John Oliver seriously
I mean it IS the CURRENT YEAR but still. Did your mum drop your on your head or something?
>>30363100
>>30363111
>Hurr funny man disagrees with me!
>>30363122
Just shut the fuck up. If you take that jackass seriously there is no point in even trying to argue with you.
When did we stop calling RIDF, RIDF?
>>30363122
>he takes his political commentary from a comedian who hides behind his title when properly criticized for being a limey cunt
>>30363139
Yeah, no. Stay mad about your disastrous economic theory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M68GeL8PafE
>>30363174
Oh, you're in middle school, I get it now. Carry on kiddo
>>30363036
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WErexf0vPDc
>>30363217
Stay mad, racialist.
>>30363217
Nah, just bringing the intelligence of the replies down to UKIP level.
>>30363256
She got kicked out of the party immediately and was disowned by the party. Just like how Labour party has "struggled" with "antisemitism" and has promptly suspended those people. If a few people make a party racist, then Labour is the most racist of them all.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/labour-anti-semitism-row-full-list-members-suspended-by-party-1558000
>>30363268
>>30363284
Nice samefagging
>>30363325
Yes, I replied to multiple responses, dumbass.
>>30363100
>>30363111
>>30363139
>>30363154
>They probably didn't even watch the video
>Missed the song at the end insulting the EU but still saying crazy to leave it
>>30363363
>Yes, I replied to multiple responses, dumbass.
No... no you didn't.
>>30363392
>>30363406
Nice facebook meme friend :^)
is this phosphorus or a cluster bomb? anyways the sorce said it was russian munitions
>>30363474
It's an incendiary munition, but not clear what type.
>>30363474
White phosphorus, just like our greatest ally, Israel, uses on civilians :^)
Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they MUST.
