All 4 gun control measures just failed in the senate
>post yfw feinstein finally gives up after this failure
So what are we going to do about all of these shootings?
>>30347882
Shoot back
>>30347882
Put up more "gun free zones"signs of course.
Who would ignore a sign telling you not to do something?
>>30347882
kill the bad doods.
mfw
>>30347873
>mfw
Mfw the NRA stops being scare mongering jews and fights for full 2a restoration
>>30347882
Fix society so people don't want to harm other people. When you enslave people under the guise of "economy" they tend to fucking snap more often.
>>30348086
Tbh I think this has more to do with the piss poor US mental health system, and unlike shitty Republicans I wouldn't constantly shoot down any legislation to actually make it better.
>>30347873
>>30347882
arm everybody
no more gun-free zones
universal constitutional carry
promote safety, storage, and training courses
and ultimately, shoot back
mfw
>>30347882
Freedom isn't free
>>30347882
Nuke Mecca, Riyadh, and Tehran.
>>30347882
Nothing.
Economic advantages of the arms industry outweigh the human loss of mass shootings.
Acceptable causalities.
>>30347873
>mfw
>>30347873
Why do based people like Scalia have heart attacks,but rights infringing people like Feinstein will live forever by some kind of satanic energy
>>30348240
>"heart attacks"
You really think that was natural causes, anon? There was no autopsy.
Can someone inform me on how long it may take for the exact same stuff or slightly altered bills to be voted on again?
>>30348240
Every two weeks she sucks the blood out of a newborn baby. It's the only thing that keeps her alive.
>>30347873
Ho' snap, really?
Not too surprising, but still a relief to hear.
>MFW
>>30347882
We bout to MAGA brah.
>>30348240
>>30348254
There is literally a pistol that shoots darts that was made for the CIA in the 60's to deliver a serum that causes heart attacks.
>>30347873
Well of course they fucking did. The Republican controlled Congress gave in after a measly 15 hours of filibuster. Gun rights is like on the the main pillars lf the Republican party, every Republican campaign ad includes "Senator Doe supported gun rights, voting 92 times against stricter gun control" or some shit.
You think they would give in after 15 hours if there was a fart's chance in a tornado of any law actually passing?
Guys, imagine for a second, if we ever wanted to invade another country so everybody can live like kings off the spoils of war like back in the woman republic, we literally could. Like I just though of this now, I know a lot of you already knew but fuck dudes. America is number fucking 1 and the world is literally ours!
>>30348333
Dems are what caused this to fail though
>>30348240
>>30348254
>>30348274
http://www.military.com/video/guns/pistols/cias-secret-heart-attack-gun/2555371072001/
>>30348338
Roman republic I meant sorry gents.
>>30347873
>MFW
>>30347898
Second post best post.
>>30348185
>Tehran
but iranian girls are hot.
THEY WANT MY GUNS THEY CAN TAKE THE BOOLETS FIRST
>>30348255
Please
>>30348132
>Fix the mental health systems!
Why didn't the US have mass shootings in the 50s when guns could be bought by mail and psychiatric medication was almost nonexistent? Most of the mass shooters were already taking psychiatric meds as well, though that is never reported because it disrupts the media's narrative.
I believe mental illness is caused by a sick society, and that money would be better spent on promoting the 2 parent household and positive experiences for young men than pumping tax dollars into unenforceable gun control or a pseudoscience based on drugging people's problems away.
Good on you america. I am british and I would be very pissed to see you guys also fall victim to fascist gun control measures. You need to keep on fighting, I don't know how we will convince the left wingers that banning guns is unnecessary restriction of a human right to self defense, but you guys have to figure it out.
Don't become like my dumb fuck country
What's the short version of th bills they tried to pass?
>>30348086
>Fix society so people don't want to harm other people.
So... uh... put the Judeo-Christian ethic back front and center? Make public morality something other than an object of scorn? I'm all for it.
>>30348132
1) We didn't have mass shootings by whacked-out teens on psychotropic drugs or Muslims until we started creating and/or importing them.
2) Any power you give to the government to define 'mental health' will be abused. You ought to know that by now. Hell, here in Califailia they can grab your guns for 21 days on the secrete testimony of a family member that they *thought* you might be dangerous -- and they want to expand that now to your friends, coworkers, and doctor. This is not a good idea.
>>30348262
I thought she switched to protein shakes made of aborted fetuses.
>>30347873
GOD DAMN RIGHT
>>30348394
Can't buy a gun if you're on the no fly list. No more private sales.
It took exactly 0 seconds for them to blame republicans and the NRA after the Dems overwhelmingly shot their own bills down live on the floor while the Repubs voted yes.
lul
>>30348391
>promoting the 2 parent household
Racist detected. I bet you believe individuals are responsible for their actions too. Fucking skinhead. Go burn s cross and fuck your sister-aunt.
>>30348240
>Feinstein will live forever by some kind of satanic energy
There's your answer.
>>30348437
This is actually terrifying though. Next time stuff will pass because republicans have sold us out
>>30347873
Don't worry, when based Hillary sweeps the Electoral college and wins back the House and Senate, she will come down on you mass murderers like a ton of bricks
>>30348391
Fuck yes. This, all of this.
>>30348397
>1) We didn't have mass shootings by whacked-out teens on psychotropic drugs or Muslims until we started creating and/or importing them.
Well the Muslim point is moot because most mass shootings aren't done by Muslims. But how exactly are we creating mentally ill people?
>>30348394
The thing that gets me is Cornyn's proposal was backed by the NRA too. Seriously let that sink in.
The republicans and NRA supported a gun control bill, but the Dems rejected it actually had provisions for due process.
>>30347898
Fucking /thread
>>30348475
*Dems rejected because it actually had provisions for due process.
>>30348473
It's not so much that we are creating them as we are no longer putting them away where they belong or letting parents beat it out of them early.
>>30348459
Yup. Kicking off the 2nd American Revolution and getting all her gun grabber buddies and voting base utterly smashed as the War Against Guns is finally lost to the real Patriots.
>>30348475
I'm pretty sure the second one would affect me because or something I said when I was 15
>>30348473
Letting bad parents raise (or more precisely not raise at all) bad kids.
>>30348391
We could start by repealing the 19th Amendment. Then all the bullshit that none of the voters care about anymore will be dropped quickly, as will social programs that incentivize promiscuity, adultery, bastardy, and divorce.
>>30348490
That's because they can't imagine having to actually follow the constitution, which specifically allows for an individual case by case basis for taking a persons rights away via due process. They would rather just be able to do whatever they wanted at any time.
>>30347873
>mfw facebook tears right now
I keep getting my autism triggered at people who say these people have assault rifles or that Mateen used an AR-15 in the shooting
>>30348132
I would say you are right. We as a nation need to take a long, hard look at mental health in this nation, and how we can reduce the stigma of having an issue and how we can better get care to these individuals.
Instead we just bark about guns and try to fuck over people who did absolutely nothing wrong to distract from the issue. It's sad.
>>30348473
>how exactly are we creating mentally ill people?
We aren't. But a lot of parents are medicating them instead of disciplining them. It's big money, as the adverts on late night TV indicate. We didn't have this problem in the 1980's or before. It didn't exist. Most of the genuinely mentally ill are harmless. Mess with their brain chemistry...? We see what happens.
But as with Islamic terrorism, the problem is obviously with the weapon they use and anyone who argues otherwise is a fascist.
>>30348542
To be fair the mcx does look exactly like an AR15. It's not like they're calling an AK one
>>30348475
"What do you have against due process?" and "Why would you want legislation that is reminiscent of the Patriot Act?" are fun things to say.
who else is getting wasted tonight to celebrate?
>>30347873
The scary part was that both the republicans and democrats are pushing for similar restrictions to be added. The only thing that stopped them is that the democrats want a little harsher restrictions added and neither party is willing to vote for the other side's proposal. Political gridlock was the only thing protecting our rights today.
>>30347882
According to the boston globe there have been 411 people killed in mass shootings from 2004 to today. In 2013 alone police in the USA killed 516 people (467 of whom were shot by police) according to the CDC. Police kill ten times the people that spree shooters do.
>>30348542
>AR-15 is an assault rifle, what do you think the AR stands for??
>>30348495
>beat out of them
Aside from your chilling lack of empathy and moral compass, I'd like to point out that literally any psychologist will give you hundreds of reasons why this is a terrible idea.
Other countries have way less mass shootings, despite loose gun laws. What problem is unique to the U.S. that causes this?
>>30348577
This is an actual quote I take it?
>>30348574
That's one thing Obama touched on in his townhall thing a few weeks ago. He said that nothing ever passes because the Democrats want large changes now which pushes away the Republicans who were willing to vote for moderate changes
>>30348367
HERETIC
>>30348367
Imagine how hot they'd be at 10,000 Kelvin.
>>30347873
does this include Mccain's clause to melt down the 1911s that the army is storing?
>>30348597
I've heard it from a few people, I think it's a common misconception. When you hear AR-15 being used in the same sentence as assault rifle often and are noguns I can see where you would think that.
>>30347873
Just curious. But what were the proposals?
>>30348626
>>30348475
it's even funnier because the dems did it to themselves. it's like as soon as they saw some of the bills had due process and that republicans where ok with them they all decided gun control was a bad idea and voted no, then just blamed it all on the gop and nra because they need their boogyman.
>>30348626
see
>>30348475
>>30348626
Stuff that doesn't mean anything.
>muh gun show loophole
>>30348574
Police killings are not all unjustified though, the majority are I presume justified to some degree. There is no rational justification to shooting up an elementary school or a nightclub.
>>30348240
>>30348456
Liches, man. She's a lich.
>>30348574
>The scary part was that both the republicans and democrats are pushing for similar restrictions to be added. The only thing that stopped them is that the democrats want a little harsher restrictions added and neither party is willing to vote for the other side's proposal. Political gridlock was the only thing protecting our rights today.
This.
I'm glad they got shot down, but the way it happened in troubling to say the least.
>>30348643
I think they need an enemy going into the election and the NRA is a pretty divisive enemy. Wasting political capital on gun control rarely ends well though.
>>30347873
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj4AcjyuV38
Old hag made it her life mission to repeal the 2nd amendment
>>30347873
Hopefully the panic buying will subside now. They got this out of the way much faster than after sandy vagina
>>30348675
But how long for this to come back into the Senate for voting?
>>30348606
the most underrated post ITT
>>30348642
>>30348643
>>30348646
Thanks anons
>>30348686
Considering they had to filibuster for 15 hours to even get it heard, hardly soon.
>>30348179
If you don't chip in your buck-o-five, who will?
>>30348686
It wont matter until after the election.
Republican majority house and senate righy now. If the gop doesnt propose anything else then we're gold.
>>30348086
right. my mother worked for min. wage all her life. never a day went by she didn't want to snap and kill someone.
she could have had the easy life. all she had to do was be my old man's punching bag.
here's a tip anon. don't be a faggot.
>>30348475
The Democratic ones wouldn't have held up to Constitutional scrutiny I don't believe. And if they did that is a TERRIBLE precedent to set and I don't think any judge would want their name attached to it.
I hope they pass massive bans on guns and some ass hat gets a gun or makes a bomb and kills a huge group of people. Thats the only way these fuckers are gona get it. Even then though they would probebly still blame everything but the fucking person and say it was because of the "#gunmentality"
>>30348701
You seem to have missed the part where the Dems stopped this, not republicans. Ironically
>>30348647
I was using it to point out how much of a non-problem spree shootings are on a societal scale.
Maybe I should have said statistically a person in the USA is over 30 times more likely to die of sudden infant death syndrome than to be killed by a spree shooter.
>>30348651
The republicans will eventually support gun control as a means of "fighting terrorism." Trump is ok with it.
Even proposing "compromise" bills is a bad sign. NRA endorsements for them are worse.
>>30347873
I remember last week when /k/ was having a shit fit over this like one of them was going to pass.
>>30348132
cry more for me. always looking for someone to blame.
we have Obamacare. the best in the world.
if you have problems its YOUR own fault.
>>30348722
It wouldn't even be feasible. Let's say you ban guns - we have no central register of who owns guns. How are they going to then seize what people own? Just go house to house? Without probable cause, you're violating the 4th Amendment. It would just be a clusterfuck.
>>30348722
Anon that doesnt work. Look at california. San Bernardino was exactly what you wanted and they passed more gun control.
>>30348675
Few people panic bought in my area. My distributors prepared for it and either jacked up all the prices of popular items or allocated its stock that was ample just a couple weeks ago.
>>30347873
>mfw the witch croaks.
>>30348730
Gays hadnt been killed yet. Elementary students didnt get anything passed and now gays didnt either
>>30348734
Eventually an intelligent dem is gonna actually study gun laws and learn that the NFA exists and came about because guns couldn't be straight up banned. They're going to suggest adding all semiautos to the NFA. That will give them their registry.
>>30348768
This was insanely fucking close to passing. Dems got it to fail because they weren't happy with the due process in the Republican proposals
>>30348565
Not really, the MCX doesn't have a buffer tube protruding into the stock.
>>30348444
off the board nigger
>>30348722
No they won't.
No matter what happens in Australia legal firearm owners are always the go to for the blame.
He have illegal nerf guns because of the fucks because they are never ever happy.
>>30348734
I dont care. Maybe after they see what a cluster fuck it would be theyll btfo
>>30348736
Im talking almost total gun ban some intense shit that would keep them from blaming guns again as much as possible
WHAT PISSES ME OFF is that by "winning" we simply didnt lose anymore rights. WE have to be right 100% of the time, otherwise theres new laws that will NEVER get overturned (NFA, Hughes act, etc), but THEY ONLY HAVE TO BE RIGHT ONCE TO REMOVE OUR RIGHTS PERMANENTLY.
>>30348787
That detail is the same as how it operates. Normal people don't fucking notice that. Cmon man. It was made to emulate an AR
>>30348473
>But how exactly are we creating mentally ill people?
Phytoestrogens in the water supply and the Prussian educational system by way of John Dewey.
>>30348783
So we keep everything keeping to the Constitution and laws therein and the dems will try and shut it down every time. No gun control for us.
>>30348185
You forgot Raqqah
>>30348338
I realize this is different depending on the state/county/city you live in, but on the whole:
>guns guns guns
>cars that aren't required to be overtaxed neutered diesel shitboxes
>contiguous 48 + Alaska has some of the best outdoors in the WORLD
>the Great American Salad has tons of new/different shit to experience and see
>I could go out, buy a roadster, buy a gun, and hop on the open road for less money/paperwork than it takes for an EU passport + round-trip plane ticket
>and I'd experience more, with almost no language or culture barrier
Few countries have it as good or better. It's a pretty cool feel.
>select all salads
Good one, captcha.
>currently piecing my newest AR together
Suck it Feinstain.
>>30348804
Saved because this is good to remember.
>>30348732
>if you have mental illness it's YOURS fault
Wew lad.
>>30348804
why must our existence be pain?
>>30348804
Yep. "Pro-gun" politicians are just those that don't actively advocate total gun control right now.
How many votes do think an actual pro-gun bill would get? Even something moderate like removing silencers from the NFA or undoing the Hughes Amendment.
>mfw
>>30348590
Another unique thing about America is how guns are such a strong part of our culture.
>>30347882
Pew pew pew back!
>>30348862
Not in 2 more generations or so
>>30348391
I think that modern society has a massive stigma attached to mental illness that prevents people from actually seeking treatment for mental illness or encouraging friends and family members with mental illnesses from seeking treatment.
Like if you get any kind of treatment for any kind of illness regardless of what it is you end up in half a dozen state and government databases and find yourself barred from many types of employment and generally being interrogated about it whenever you try an do anything more involved than buying milk.
Treating everyone who got help because they sometimes have a panic attack as if they were like a violent criminal and a threat to society, which is essentially what the government does right now, doesn't exactly scream "It's okay to get help". It does the exact opposite, it tells people who think they might be having psychiatric problems that they should probably hide it.
When the whole sandy hook shit happened all the liberals went fucking crazy spouting off about how mentally ill people are dangerous and shouldn't be allowed to do basically anything because they're all violent lunatics, apparently forgetting that literally 20% of the US population has a diagnosed mental illness of some type.
Gun legislation targeted at people with mental illness is just an example of people who want to pass any law they can aiming down the path of least resistance.
>>30348132
This is bullshit. It is a meme that organizations like the Brady Campaign use to push gun confiscation. The plan is to pass seemingly common sense laws and then expand and expand their scope. There are tens of millions of US citizens with mental health issues. Very, very few of them pose a threat. Only a couple have committed mass shootings.
>>30348804
I... godamnit JFK
>>30347882
Obama can stop paying them
Thank you evil NRA for spending your child killing gunbux to protect the draconian and outdated system known as "due process".
SHALL
>>30348848
>>30348847
Our forefathers would have never taken this, they'd be infuriated and ashamed at everyone on this fucking message board.Daily reminder they literally started a war over a 2% tax.
>>30348913
anyone know what book that is? I wonder every time i see this picture
A M E R I C A
>>30348914
To be fair they kept petitioning them before shit really escalated
>>30348914
To be fair our forefathers weren't much better about taxation when they got representation. See the Whiskey Rebellion.
>>30348873
Now now, let's not be defeatist. But turning this around is important.
>>30348885
Correct
>open cuckbook
>See comments for news stories for failed gun control proposals
>Muh NRA
>Muh Republicans
>Muh sensible gun laws
This shit never gets old
>>30348804
You're right of course, but our side has been making progress at the state level. We really need to be more on the offensive at the federal level, but that might as well be a different sport.
>>30348936
Very true. War didn't start until the British were literally marching to disarm the populace.
>>30348185
>Tehran
You do realize that Iran has done jack shit to hurt the US besides Hezbollah. And Hezbollah being bad is pretty damn subjective due to how jewy Israel has been towards Iran and Shias in general.
>le gun politics belong on /k/ xDDD!!!!!!
GO BACK TO >>>/pol/ YOU FUCKING RETARDS
>>30348391
Saved this lad, good stuff.
>>30348962
just tell them it was the dems who voted no (because they did)
>>30347873
Congrats ameribros
>2 of the proposals were proposed by Republicans and were largely voted against by Democrats
>somehow the failure to pass all 4 is the fault of Republicans
>>30348391
capped for posterity
Hey so serious question. Does this mean that this bout of gun control scare is over? Or are we going to see ARs and AKs marked up 300% and never see ammo for either like after sandy hook?
>>30349000
Can I have a source for this. Can't find anything anywhere
>>30348874
Literally the reason I dont get treated for depression, self harm, and suicide. Fuck ending up on some list and fuck giving up any of my gun rights
>>30349020
Just wait until November, you ain't seen shit yet
>>30348989
Get fucked gun grabbing faggot
>>>/t/umblr
>>>/r/eddit
>>>/s/afespace
>>30349020
Most people who were gonna panic buy ARs and bulk ammo already have. Even real gun scares won't be as bad in the future. And this isn't a real scare.
In other news hows the Machine Gun Lawsuit going?
>>30348391
Because most mental patients were locked away in institutions for most of their lives.
>>30349033
He's right though, I'll die for gun rights. But I don't wanna see that shit on /k/ cus then that's all the board will talk about
>>30348185
And Berlin, and maybe London.
>>30349043
We lost. Predictably. Thereby confirming that the ATF can now make up shit on the spot and even contradict itself and make it stick.
>>30349047
> few threads on gun control
>majority on other cool shit
>plenty of people posting
>all the board will talk about
Fuck off
>>30348132
Can thank Regan for that. Probably his fault we have the whole transgender fad as well; who knows what a better world we'd have if he didn't shut down all the mental health facilities / programs and release countless people needing help into the wild. Years of research and treatment lost. Also wasn't he the fag that took automatics from civilians?
>>30349026
Dems voted down the Republican proposal because it gave only 3 days for a US atty to argue to a judge that the person should be blocked a sale because they pose a risk (Dem proposals wanted blockages without going thru judge). The argument was 3 days was not enough time to gather a case and then present it, which it probably isn't enough time.
>>30348475
>>30348490
>>30348530
>>30348568
>>30348643
>>30348783
>>30348903
Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) literally says "Due Process is killing us":
http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/2002854/
>>30349075
A few days ago the whole front page was gun control shit nigger
>>30349002
When we win the fight here, we'll let you cool gun euros in if you promise to cuddle me when I'm lonely
>>30348777
Nigger don't give anyone ideas
Delete this post
>>30349072
aw fuk bye
>>30349081
>who knows what a better world we'd have if he didn't shut down all the mental health facilities / programs and release countless people needing help into the wild.
Read Thomas Szasz lol
>>30349081
No he wasn't. The shutdown of metal health facilities in the 80s was also due to a rare situation in where the left and right agreed on something. The left thought it was awful to keep the mentally ill locked up and the right thought it was a waste of money.
>>30347873
And now I can sleep soundly tonight. Thank you anon, my spirits are lifted. The war isn't over but it looks like we won this battle
>>30348606
Fucking kek
>>30349047
>WAAH WHY IS ALL THAT A WEAPONS BOARD TALKS ABOUT IS LAWS REGARDING WEAPONS
holy fuck go back to ledit or tumblr you fucking retard
>>30349091
Oddly the FBI said that blocking sales was a bad idea since it lets people know if they're on a secret watch list. All you'd have to do if you wanted t know if they're on to you is to try and buy a gun.
>>30349093
It's true. People can harass and even threaten you daily and there's nothing the police can do to stop it. Muslims used to follow military wives in the town I lived in and harass them about their husband's jobs. The police can't do anything until they actually go through with it.
It sucks, but I wouldn't have it any other way.
>>30348202
>acceptable casualties
The tobacco and booze industries have shown us that a significant body count is acceptable, provided there's a healthy profit involved.
Figure, guns kill roughly 30K people per year. Booze kills about 3 times that many per year, and tobacco takes 16 times that many lives per year.
Unlike booze and guns, tobacco has no redeeming societal uses. As long as our culture tolerates tobacco, we'll have guns.
>>30349047
>weapons board talking about weapons laws
How dare we
>>30347873
>>30347873
>>30348814
John fuckin' Dewey. More homeschooling and empathy for the chillunz pls. pls no state indoctrination, make schooling great again etc
>>30347873
YES!
>>30348274
Nigga you can make that shit with a syringe and pvc pipe
>>30347873
>implying they'll ever give up
They're trying to seize power for their party by importing a bunch of foreigners and making people dependent on the state.
>>30348848
Imagine the ass pain if Trump fires everyone in the ATF and refuses to hire anyone to replace them.
>>30348086
Ding ding ding. Winrar
This is the actual one true solution but the last thing the media or govt will even discuss let alone admit it.
>>30348274
>CIA pistol
>Not superior KGB poison umbrella
Come on, man. We want some utility! You can rectify filthy dissidents AND keep your clothes dry,
>>30348569
I'm on staff duty please drink my portion. This is 1 5th of rum and 1 liter of cola. Thank you.
>>30349307
Say goodbye to NFA items. You can't get a tax stamp if there's no one there to take your money/issue you a stamp.
>>30348722
I don't think you understand how retarded these people are.
>>30348391
That all makes too much sense and it would actually solve problems. The govt would never approve of that.
>>30349307
Trump is exactly the kind of person I'm talking about. He got the NRA endorsement soley by not being Hillary Clinton. Now he's talking with them about banning people in no fly lists from buying guns.
He may not be an immediate enemy, but he is not our friend.
>>30349351
Without the ATF to enforce it who cares about the stamps?
>>30348240
>Feinstein
Her plan was to step aside for Harris, but Boxer beat her to it. Now she needs to wait until another likely candidate comes along.
When the right body presents itself, the ritual happens in the dark of the moon. Obsidian knife kills the female rooster, and her unholy energy flows into a new husk. It's risky for her because in the weeks after the transfer, she doesn't have access to her full eldritch powers.
>>30349093
>Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) literally says "Due Process is killing us":
This is the scariest thing. Someone actually said that, with cameras and reporters around. These are the people trying to make laws.
>>30349422
That would have been the perfect time for, "No, I am. ALLAHU ACKBAR!" and a suicide bomber.
>>30349411
Holy Avenger +10 I chose you.
>>30349093
Anyone who hasn't already their change of address form and marked their primary residence as "innawoods" is gonna regret it.
>>30348391
CMP was a real thing back then, and schools actually had competitive shooting teams.
The cultural mindset that leads to mass shootings evolved out of the GCA, which was a knee jerk response to the specter of armed black people in our streets. The RFK and MLK shootings were the fortuitous circumstances which allowed it to be drafted in the first place.
>>30347873
MURICA FUCK YEAH
>>30348459
Except she likely won't win the popular vote (because Bernie voters will vote Gary Johnson once they find out about muh weed) or electoral vote because electoral voters loyal to Johnson will be enough to swing the swing states.
>>30347882
Nothing. Who gives a fuck about 50 dead faggots and 50 less Hillary voters? Not me.
An interesting point of procedure: These were cloture votes, not votes to submit the amendments. You can read the wikipedia article if you want, but cloture means debate stops and you vote on whether or not to vote, and then you make the vote that actually matters if the first vote passes (afik). Basically, a failed cloture motion means you're deciding not to decide.
It's not over. The only solid decision that was made today was to table the bill in question. So go ahead! Drink and be merry, for at least you know that the beast has chosen not to attack, but merely to slumber.
>>30349689
Be careful with that much edge.
>>30349689
>doesn't know about #twinks4trump
>>30348649
we must gather a band of adventurers and find and destroy her phylactery. Any ideas what it could be?
>>30349795
>knowing about #twinks4trump
>>30349887
Bill's chastity belt.
>>30348459
Who here is a mass murderer?
>>30348577
Armalite
>>30348473
>But how exactly are we creating mentally ill people?
By diagnosing ADD/ADHD and medicating kids instead of interacting more with them. And, lets take a look at the amount of sugar in a typical pre-adolescent diet now as opposed to 40 years ago. How many of those diagnoses are simply kids being sugared to the gills? Then we dump $2500 worth of electronics on them, give them high speed internet, and tell them to be good.
A certain amount of blame can also be laid at the feet of educators. Remember the culture of participation awards? Kids were getting the message that winning doesn't matter, as long as you tried. Problem is, trying and falling short is how kids learn to improve. So you had a half generation of kids coming out of school who weren't ready for real life. They didn't know how or want to improve on their shortcomings, because they'd always been taught that whatever was good enough. That's not the case, irl. These kids started shutting down and tuning out, because they didn't have the coping tools. And then some of them turned into supreme gentlemen.
So I'm a little lost, I don't follow the news closely I'm ashamed to say. What gun control measures failed? The proposed AR bans?
>>30349887
The moon and/or a grain of sand on a beach, latter makes sense because it's CA.
>>30350186
The ones the remove due process.
>>30348718
Courts don't apply constitutional scrutiny ennymore bra
>>30347882
>all of these shootings
You mean the statistically negligible events that the media hypes as everyday occurrences?
>>30349270
Yup.
>>30349908
>complains about Hillary voters
>posts angry communist reaction image about twinks wanting Trump
>>30349270
Fluoride in the water is nothing compared to the poison in public education.
Democrats showed their true colors today when they voted against Grassley's and Cornyn's amendments. Grassley's was objectively positive and aimed to improve NICS and mandate better reporting between LEAs and NICS regarding mental health and other reasons that would keep you from buying a gun. Cornyn's was shitty compromise amendment mechanically identical to Grand Lich Feinstein's but contained provisions for due process. ONE Dem voted for Grassley. TWO voted for Cornyn. Almost EVERY Republican voted for both. The reason these amendments did not proceed was Democrats despite them containing the exact shit that Democrats' cry about wanting.
After today I can never vote for a Democrat again.
>>30347873
>>30349151
>All you'd have to do if you wanted t know if they're on to you is to try and buy a gun.
Makes sense seeing as .01% of people who try to buy guns illegally are ever actually prosecuted. It's a win-win situation for "terrorists".
>>30349091
>The argument was 3 days was not enough time to gather a case and then present it
It isn't, but if you don't have evidence then you shouldn't be putting people on secret government lists, amirite?
>>30350312
>>30348718
Especially not the SCOTUS if today's 4A is any indication. I can't believe that they decided that illegally obtained evidence is admissable in court.
>>30350483
>again
>>30350381
>>30349689
>Expecting reasonable discourse
>On 4chan
>Please die so that I can make love to your body while a black man watches, reading entries to me from my mother's diary as he does so
>>30350563
sounds pretty hot to be honest sempai.
>>30350536
The exclusionary rule is something the courts made up in 1914. It's no where in the Constitution. It was intended to dissuade the government from violating the Fourth Amendment but it's always had exceptions.
>>30348397
Im a psychfag and hate that im basically agreeing with fucking Phil of all people.
the nation has a serious issue with eroded social support and social ties.
these ties generate senses of morality and bonding, community in other words. This used to be a primary goal of the churches. They have largely failed in the modern world to create a unified moral code. The government cant pick up the pieces cheaply, and there arent strong economic incentives yet
>>30349045
Finally someone pointed out the existence of the asylum system.
>>30347873
>>30350651
I have a hard time believing that law enforcement harassing people for no reason and forcing them to submit to illegal searches where anything they find is permissible as evidence to be used against them in court is something that 4A protections coexist with. How is pulling someone over for a search despite them having committed no crime to instigate that NOT an unreasonable search?
>>30349915
Ah, a mythological thing that many believe doesn't exist. Very clever.
We're gonna need a little person for this.
C-SPAN's twitter responses to the vote were all whining about muh GOP and NRA lobby
when the dems blocked them lmao
>>30348834
Well said.
>>30350793
Just be sure to bring it up when you inevitably hear the whining about it. The NRA supported two proposals that were effectively toned-down versions of what the Dems were proposing, only incorporating foreign concepts like "due process."
Shit, had the Dems not resorted to the same partisan dickwaving they always whine about the GOP doing, those proposals would have passed with something like 90 votes.
>>30350793
The headline was "All 4 gun bills defeated" or something like that. It's actually pretty entertaining to see how many people see that and blame the NRA without realizing their own party fucked them over. Just goes to show how uninformed these retards are.
>>30350824
>Shit, had the Dems not resorted to the same partisan dickwaving they always whine about the GOP doing, those proposals would have passed with something like 90 votes.
Apparently it's pretty easy to dance on graves and vote against ideology as long as it makes a boogeyman out of the NRA and leads to a few more precious votes in the next election.
>>30347873
>>30350725
Doesn't matter if it's reasonable or not. The Constitution does not require the evidence be suppressed. Evidence from a warrantless search was fully admissible for over a hundred years, and has still been partially admissible for the last hundred.
Again the Fourth Amendment provides a prohibition but no remedy. Even the exclusionary rule only provides a judicial remedy for people who were illegally searched while actually breaking the law. If you weren't breaking the law and get illegally searched you get jack.
>>30347882
1. Remove Kebab
2. MAGA
3. ?????
4. Profit!
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Everyone, mail a pack of tissues to this address.
Dianne Feinstein
3300 Nebraska Ave NW
Washington DC, 20016
>>30349093
>Sen. Joe Manchin
Fuck you too! can't wait until we vote your ass out
![1_1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UYqbZCe.jpg "1_1[1].jpg")
>>30350961
You think if I send this to her she'll send it back to me? I need a refill.
>>30349093
Evidently Manchin got in a lot of trouble for that.
I called his senate office the day he said that. The person on the phone said he was taking a tally of people who were upset by his remarks on due process.
>>30351070
FYI taking a tally is what they do for every call on every issue really. They've got a computer system to log calls into by issue and what they said. It can take additional comments but most staff don't bother. They won't record it unless you give your address, which better be in their district. They'll also use it to generate a mailing list for letters about whatever you called them over.
>>30350772
I'm 5'3". I can be your hobbit burglar.
>>30351193
they asked for zip codes. So I gave them a random West Virginia one, since I live in Georgia.
>>30348542
But they are considered an assault rifle
>>30351272
Huh. They may know they're getting calls from outside the state and aren't planning to mail responses. Or his office may not do it at all.
Either way fake zip codes are something to look up ahead of time if you're gonna call an out of state congressman. You can always say you won't give your address because you don't want mail. But if you can't give a zip code in their district/state they'll ignore the response.
>>30351050
>>30349399
>implying you can only be arrested by the ATF for breaking federal laws.
The FBI or any of the other alphabet soup agencies would pick up the slack left in the ATF's absence.
>>30350517
>The argument was 3 days was not enough time to gather a case and then present it
It isn't, but if you don't have evidence then you shouldn't be putting people on secret government lists, amirite?
Holy fucking this.
