micro/mini red dots edition
old thread >>30336391
>>30338800
Full size or riot.
ill bite
>>30338815
what is that mark on your lower?
Please answer
>>30338644
i-in
>>30338808
And do they get paid more than you? Do they point and laugh when you wander in?
i since changed to a folding rear sight
GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
>>30338852
Dude why do you care so much lol
>>30338848
Texas state seal
>>30338867
So they do. What sort of names were you called in school?
>>30338881
were to get!!! holy crapoly
Advanced Combat Opitcal Gunsite of the 4x32 variation reporting in.
>>30338866
I was promised me sunlight pictures.
I can get behind this edition.
>>30338851
Can't you afford an optic yet? They're not expensive.
>>30338885
Me and my friends were called the trench coat mafia
>>30338888
I had it engraved at Maventure Outpost with my provided image.
>>30338881
Fukken dank
Whats the appeal of the aimpoint t2 over the pro besides weight? Is it a less crowded field of view? Btw my phone broke so i lost all my rifle pics
>>30338908
Imaginary friends don't count. And your hands don't count for girlfriends either.
In.
>>30338925(You)
>>30338922
Mostly weight, but just like mounting a 30mm red dot further forward, the optic takes up less of your view.
>>30338898
I keep forgetting, forgive me. Here's a fresh pic taken via headlight by my new target.
>some are bolts in the center, some are 9mm
>don't let the local PD try out your new targets ever
Made my panic buy a few minutes ago, guess I can post in here now.
What's a reasonable optic for a first AR?
>>30338800
would it be stupid to make an ar pistol with a 14.5 or 16 inch barrel?
i want to make a pistol but i have a geissele mk8 13" rail already.
>>30338974
Get a vortex strike eagle.
>>30338954
Ive been seriously considering upgrading to a micro rds with a bigger and clearer field of view.
>>30338974
Depends on the build. Bushnell red dot, Aimpoint PRO, anything Vortex.
>>30338974
>What's a reasonable optic for a first AR?
Aimpoint PRO
>>30338974
Variable optic.
>>30338800
Phase 5 or magpul bad?
>>30338990
do it
>>30339013
magpul, it's lower profile.
>>30338974
aimpoint micro or get the fuck out
>>30338995
>Ive been seriously considering upgrading to a micro rds with a bigger and clearer field of view.
Depends on how you shoot really. I have a PRO, CompM4, and T1. Functionally, they all work the same for me when shooting torsos inside of 250y.
The PRO and CompM4 are nicer on small targets at range like clays on the berm or small steel rounds as I like the "roomier" view through them in that scenario so I can pan off of a target that is covered completely by the dot then back on easier.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCUMv120oCw
"What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud.
It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon.
But mostly, I was just terrified.
Squeeze lightly on the trigger and the resulting explosion of firepower is humbling and deafening (even with ear protection).
The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable."
Gersh Kuntzman
Globalist Propagandist
New York Daily News
>>30339053
Really the pro is bulky and kinda crowded to look through. I run drills and am usually shooting torso sized targets from 15-250 yards. I also hunt jack rabbits with it.
what muzzle device should i get for outdoor range and wood use? seem like side concussion is a huge annoying issue to deal with if you want to be nice to people around you.
>>30339083
I wouldn't call my T1 any less cluttered. Its profile is smaller to look past the housing, but when specifically looking through the lenses I prefer the 30mm aimpoints.
>>30338842
I like your rifle.
>>30338851
Fuck whoever was talking shit about your rifle. I like it man, stainless barrel and all.
>>30338933
Easy there with that thing!
Continuing dump.
>>30338974
My strike eagle is pretty great. Not too expensive either.
>>30339158
Thx
>>30339143
In theory i think it would be easier to transition between targets with it shooting both eyes open, right?
>>30339170
All that OD.
>>30339170
That beautiful OD Green
OD Green the best
>>30339177
Theoretically I guess so, it doest feel markedly different for target aquisition, just swing weight. Then again I dont have a shot timer.
>>30339210
You know it.
>>30339230
Damn right.
>>30339233
I may just justify it for weight purposes and say fuck it. Might get the mro instead
>>30339324
Where is that? Im jealous
>>30339324
What am I looking for?
Also fuck the image size limit. God damn race to the bottom. Buy more damn servers.
>>30339334
Just put a few hundred rounds through this guy today
>>30339399
moots moms credit cards can only afford so much
>>30339358
Nuggetfest. Blacksburg, VA.
>>30339414
Who is moot?
>>30339399
Beauty in nature.
>>30339415
West texas never gets that beautiful, man. Enjoy it.
>>30339428
https://mega.nz/#F!RVMnRKhA!_pc8yEMyTibk7iVrwjx9Cw
lots of nugfest pics.
>>30339419
Come on dude
>>30338800
optics are for old people and four-eyes.
>>30339459
You must mean hiro.
>>30339490
you mean hiroshimoot? Still a moot, and still needs more infrastructure.
>>30339428
you think thats "beautiful"?
bruh...
Is there a single con to the MRO?
>>30339399
you're cute, sell your ass and buy more servers.
>>30339526
1.25 magnification
>>30339523
Cut him some slack, he's in Texas.
>>30339526
Im looking into it too. Glare seems like an issue.
>>30339523
Suck muh d. Missori woods are my favorite. Down by ft. Leonard wood.
>>30339596
No slack needed this is God country
>>30338922
1. Who are you?
2. Weight, size, less tinted, higher quality glass. If those aren't enough for you, then don't buy it because those are the main benefits.
>>30338974
What rifle did you buy and how much are you looking to spend on what type of optic.
>>30339090
You could always get something like the Surefire SFMB and then the Warden for when you're at the range. Or, better yet, you could just not give a fuck about the people around you on the firing line because chances are they don't give a fuck about you either.
>>30339526
Muh weak battery contacts, also: >>30339576
and >>30339613
Basically it's par for the course when it comes to Trijicon red dots.
>>30339007 >>30339052 >>30339170
Hey I need some advice, I mostly shoot at a bench and with my stock fully extended but I'm thinking my rings might be a bit too low and I always see people mount their scopes further forward. should I get a mount more like this?
http://aeroprecisionusa.com/ultralight-30mm-scope-mount.html
Thank you for your help
>>30339419
1/10
>>30339425
He's a good looking kid, and a good guy to boot.
>>30339415
AR related please.
>>30339576
Not me, I took some buds shooting.
>>30339841
That mount is exactly what I have and I like it. I'll probably replace it with a quick detach at some point though so I might also recommend just getting a QD mount to begin with.
>>30339613
>down by ft. Leonard wood
So you can be accosted by ticks, all manner of poisonous snakes, miles of bull nettle/poison ivy/multiflora rose/kudzu, meth heads, AWOL niggers, AWOL meth heads, Southern Baptists, heroin whores, and other undesirables even miles innawoods?
Completely agree.
In one 3 hour hike I saw
>4 copper heads
>1 pygmy rattler
>1 timber rattler
>2 cotton mouths
>fire ant mound the size of a Lincoln Continental
>2 separate pieces of UXO (keep in mind I'm ~70 miles from the base)
>1 meth lab
>2 illegal grow ops
>1 non functioning moonshine still
>2 functioning moonshine stills
>the site of a satanistic sacrifice, complete with pentagram and decomposing goat
>someone's outhouse (complete with current Sears catalog for wipin'), because innawoods MO still has people without indoor plumbing
I wouldn't trade it for the world.
>>30339865
Good to hear you like it, can you explain why it's worth getting to replace the dinky rings I've got?
>>30339841
also, gucci trigger recently acquired
>>30339841
If the eye relief is right for you there's no reason to change.
>but I'm thinking my rings might be a bit too low
No such thing unless part of the scope itself is touching the gun. Lower is always better, because it promotes a firmer cheekweld.
What's going on in here?
>>30339890
>CMC
>gucci
yeah nah. Literally inferior in every way to the SD-E while being only slightly cheaper.
>>30339900
Smashing lizerds with rocks. Feel free to contribute.
>>30339905
Nah
>>30339890
If your current rings work well enough for you then don't bother. If you want better eye relief then getting farther forward rings might help. It's really your personal preference.
>tfw haven't slept in 2 days and have no desire to at all
>>30339900
what's the word that sort of means regret but for something you don't have yet or for something you will do?
that's what i have, feel like maybe i should have gotten a mro but i know the t2 is better.
>>30339922
What the actual hell is wrong with you
>>30339933
I think it's my meds or crippling mental illness
>>30339905
I got it for free, noob
>>30339891
thank you, I will keep that in mind. I'm very tall so I find myself tucking my chin a bit to get my eye to the right spot with the stock shouldered.
>>30339915
ok thank ye
>>30339924
buyers remorse?
>>30339956
It's sad because I can't tell if you're joking
>>30339922
You'll pass out either way.
>>30339967
>buyers remorse?
nah, it means scared or anxious, may be the word is anxious.
>>30339865
I forget, what was the website that did those dust covers?
Gonna want one. Or four.
>>30338800
So I fucked up the other day and ordered a bcm standard 16" barrel. I want to return it, but should I order the bcm chf 16 instead?
Which barrel would be accurate yet extremely tough?
>>30339990
Tactical gear junkie
So does ballistic advantage have 4th of July sales ?
>>30339990
Tactical gear junkie.
New pistol. I took the AR that day too so it is AR related.
http://ballisticadvantage.com/17-7-inch-223-hanson-mid-ss-premium-barrel.html
>only 4 left
So what do I buy when this sells out because I don't get paid in time
>>30340002
>>30340007
Thanks guys.
>>30339922
If you kys then you'll never have that problem again. BTW if you drive and you're caught you can get charged with OWI. 24 hours without sleep equals a .1 BAC equivalent in terms of attention and driving ability.
>>30340030
Buy fluffy a helium tank and a CPAP mask.
>>30340044
Already got one ;)
>>30340035
I'll ride my bike
>>30340010
>>30340058
Why do people keep positing this image?
>>30340030
BCMMASTERRACE
>>30340069
Good picture of the guns!
>>30340086
Another one of the new CM9
>>30340086
Who is it though?
>>30340095
Some bitch.
>>30340095
I think it's from a meet up
Anonymous 06/20/16(Mon)00:11:21 No.30339943 â–¶
>>30338041
what's that anodized blue detent looking thing in your laser selector?
is that a lockout to prevent you from going IR accidentally?
>>30340103
I'm curious to
Are the proprietary barrel nuts on the Noveske NSR reliable? The whole set-up looks kind of flimsy, considering only 6 Torx screws are holding the thing to the upper receiver.
>>30340102
Is that a fitted cargo mat that doesnt cover the entire cargo space?
>>30340116
It's fine, BCM only uses 2
>>30340118
Its for a different car
>>30340116
If you have to question it, you don't deserve it.
Alright guys, I want to put together an AR-15 and since this general (mostly) has a good idea of what items are top-quality and what items are complete trash what would you guys recommend for a high quality AR-15 build? (asking everyone in general) So I can put together a shopping list of what to buy.
I would like high quality but not quite gucci. (Also webm is just to grab attention)
>>30340095
This is me. I try to take people shooting often. That picture of the guy holding both of my ARs is my roommates little brother. He had never shot until meeting me.
>>30340116
They are fine. Screw count doesnt mean much on its own. Larue rails, older DD M4 rails, and KAC FF RAS all mount with no screws at all and are very secure.
>>30340055
>I'll ride my bike
And hopefully get hit by a car.
>>30340123
>>30340143
Sweet thanks
>>30340128
Shut the fuck up
>>30340139
BCM
B5
Trijicon
Aimpoint
Spikes
PWS
Noveske
Magpul
>>30339803
>>30339576
>>30339613
Mine has no weak contacts or glare or magnification. What is this lie?
>>30340139
Budget?
What type of rifle?
This your first AR?
>>30340146
Welcome to /arg/ bitch.
>>30339924
You are considering MRO over t2? Why?
>>30340139
Buy a KAC SR-15 E3 Mod 2 M-Lok. Done.
>>30340160
Its pretty well known that all of these things at least WERE problems. Newest review i found was 2 months old though. Never shot through one desu
>>30340116
>are holding the thing to the upper receiver
uh, wut? No, the barrel nut is holding it to the upper receiver. It's also holding the barrel in. And since the thread pattern is standardized, it's fine.
If you mean holding the handguard to the barrel nut, yeah 6 is actually overkill and many handguards that have a reputation for being "durable" have half as many or fewer.
>>30340055
you can get a DWI on a bike too
>>30340139
BA barrel; Aero upper/lower; any one of a dozen different sub-$200 handguards depending on brand loyalty, length, and Mlok vs. keymod; B5 SOPMOD stock, Geissele SSA-E trigger; PSA LPK and buffer tube.
Sub-$1k rifle that's halfway gucci.
>>30340160
Contact issue is if you cannot into correct battery orientation.
The glare is a real thing, not crippling, but something the Aimpoint does not do. Shoot with the sun at tour back and you will get a red flare in the optic back at you with the MRO.
>>30340160
they all have some magnification, only affects people with extreme autism though.
>>30340167
mro looks cool but i already ordered a t2
>>30340195
And on a lawnmower, horse, and motorized toilet.
>>30340228
>affects people with extreme autism though.
Like /arg/?
>>30340152
Can you be a tad more specific and recommend the best parts from some of the companies so I don't go and buy say a magpul trigger and it turn out to be complete shit when I was supposed to buy something completely different? (sorry if a bit rambly and hard to follow sleep has not been treating me well lately)
>>30340164
>Budget?
Right now not much- but I plan on making this an over time thing. Good things come to those who wait.
>What type of rifle?
I was thinking a carbine type rifle. Since I live in Ga and there aren't usually incredible ranges I need to be able to hit.
>This your first AR?
Yes. I've always been more of a slav-shit kind of guy but I would like to broaden my spectrum of firearms.
>>30340175
>>30340211
Thank you I will write this down and keep them in mind.
>>30340102
I only hate your gun because that lower and because you numbered your mag like a douche
>>30340140
The guns look familiar. R u bein srs that is you?
>>30339922
Your body is fucked up then, I recommend going to to someone who has a piece of paper in the office that says "doctorate". If you are too stubborn/lazy/poor then pic related will help temporarily.
>>30340232
Yet not a <65.1cc moped, at least not here.
>can get a DUI in a wheelchair
>can't get one on a vehicle capable of at least 55mph that has a gas engine
Good job North Carolina.
>>30340116
this is what made me switch my prospect to the geissele SMR. the weight increase is negligible to me and the barrel nut is WAY bigger and supports the rail further so you get a really stable platform for the rail itself.
NSR is awesome for a super lightweight gun though, but i fear it is way less durable.
>>30340243
BCM upper (bolt, barrel, CH, upper receiver)
MEGA lower (just for looks)
B5 sopmod enhanced stock
Magpul grip
Surefire light
Rail of choice
Optic of choice
LP of choice
Triger of choice
Magpul front BUIS
KAC rear BUIS
>>30340266
Even better;
>can get a DUI in wheelie shoes
>at least one person has gotten a DUI on a unicycle
>at least a dozen people get DUI's on ski's every year up in Boone
>can get a DUI in a float tube
Yet not on a moped.
>>30340266
i say those because one local guy got so many DUIs that they permanently revoked his license. Then he drove a John Deere tractor around town, drunk of course and got arrested for that.
Then he drove his lawnmower around town, drunk of course, and was arrested for that. That was fun. He was driving down the road completely shitfaced when the cops lit him up, so he cut onto people's lawns and kicked the blade on while yelling "I'm mowing lawns you can touch me!"
Then he rode a horse around town drunk and got arrested when he fell off. They had a hell of a time trying to figure out how to impound a horse.
Then he put a toilet on a golf cart and rode that around. When the cops went to arrest him he dropped his pants and yelled "I'm taking a shit fuck you, you can't touch me" and got arrested for DUI, public indecency, criminal mischief, and every other fucking thing they could throw at him.
>>30340352
Is this a reference to something
>>30340228
From what ive gathered the t2 is far better of a choice. Proven optic
>>30340371
No, it's what happens when you live in a small town with nothing to do except drink and go to the lake.
>>30340243
Here's what I'd do:
>lower
MOA LLC, 45* selector compatible "enhanced milspec". Like $80 through MOA LLC (local company that sells online, good people)
>upper
Aero Precision standard, milspec upper, ~$80
>barrel
Ballistic Advantage Hanson 16" midlength, $230
>LPK
PSA MOE lpk w/o FCG, $50
>trigger
Geissele SSA-E, currently $230 but expect a good sale for the 4th of July. I know this is expensive but totally worth it.
>stock assembly
B5 SOPMOD, $60; PSA carbine buffer tube assembly, $30
>handguard
Aero Precision Quantum 15" blem handguard, $80
>muzzle device
Strike Industries J-Comp, $40
>sights
KAC USMC-stamped 600m micro rear, anywhere from $43-65 on eBay. Pic related is what I paid for 2 of them. Either a Troy HK-style folding front (~$65 on ebay) or Magpul MBUS Pro front (~$70 through several places, including ebay).
Complete rifle for between $923-$950 without waiting for sales.
>>30340249
Yeah the guns look familiar because I've been posting them on here for the past several months!
Thats me bud.
>>30340406
Fug. Pic related for real this time
>>30340409
Kek I remember not long ago people were getting to fanny flustered because you were asking about grips and stocks in literally every thread for quite some time
Was it you who got the mbus from giddy?
>>30340437
Yeah they're on the pistol now. I painted them black.
I didn't know what grip or what stock I was seeing in pictures.
>>30340451
I just thought it was hilarious because I'm pretty sure you were just copying and pasting it over and over
>>30340468
Haha yeah that was around November/December of last year. All the gucci guns had K2 grips and Magpul SL stocks. Now everyone has a BCM MOD grip and either a SOPMOD or a BCM Gunfighter stock. I need to get with the times.
>>30340509
Nah, just use what you like and fuck what /arg/ has to say about aesthetics
>>30339990
>>30340002
>>30340007
>>30340032
Fucking ordered. Yay.
Also thank you guys who've set me on my way. Take this as a tiny thank you token. (Yes I know it's not the best)
>>30338800
Hey /ARG/,
Can you put noveske accessory pack rail covers on a KMR or does it not fit because of the slant part.
Looking for some opinions. I'm trying to decide what to run on my bcm 16". I have it narrowed down to either a vortex spitfire 3x or a spitfire 1x with a magnifier. What do y'all think?
OK guys I fucked up.
I thought my kit had a plate and castle nut, but it does not.
Where can I get one cheap? I don't want to spend 5 bucks on shipping for a 2 buck part.
>>30340956
local gun store is probably best idea for that
>>30341019
That's my fear.
I live in the middle of nowhere and gas would be even more than shipping.
>>30340956
It's the current year, you have Amazon prime, right?
>>30340876
I want a patch of this. Is it a reference to something?
>>30341047
what kind of gas guzzling piece of shit do you drive?
how far away is the local shop?
>>30341077
u again
>>30341086
50 miles one way
>>30341087
>says that notorious samefag, anon
>>30341093
Fuuuuck. You're stuck ordering online or waiting until you drive that way unless someone here gives you one
I might have a plate, but I don't have spare castle nuts. Ill check tomorrow pham
>>30341093
i drove 50 miles one way to go to the range earlier
>>30337408
>>30337473
>>30337530
>>30337562
>>30337740
make a trip out of it, thats what i do with that city. combine all the shit u need into one trip to make it worth it.
>>30338967
Dumbass I hope you learned your lesson
You should always assume 9/10 people working for your local pd are incompetent morons because they typically are
>>30340030
I don't think it will sell out unless you wait forever but if it does you can do this guy
http://www.shop.blackholeweaponry.com/556-caliber-18-length-AR15-556-18.htm
>>30339526
Nothing that would make it anything less than a masterful choice.
>>30339056
in
>>30342253
You get another rifle and acog or is that someone else's?
Is the KAK shockwave brace any good?
Is it better than the sig brace?
>>30342335
if you're talking about the blade hell yeah, normally I dislike the idea of any of the "totally not a stock" options but that one is OK in my book
>>30342272
That's someone else's
>>30342335
It's the best of the 3 braces out there.
It's still a pretty crappy stock though.
>>30338904
Make/model of that sling, anon?
>>30342407
looks like magpul
>>30342407
Dat dere would be a Magpul MS4.
It's pretty fuckin' awesome. Best QD sling made.
>>30342389
You get your can back and in working order?
>>30342394
>It's still a pretty crappy stock though.
Yeah, but its the only way i can get a short barrel where i live since sbr is illegal.
So im putting together a pistol.
>>30342272
another tripfag and anon rifles
>>30342427
Alright, then yeah it's your best option.
There's someone on here that managed to retrofit a CAA cheek saddle on theirs and it looks p. comfy. Might wanna lurk and see if he'll do a tutorial for it.
>>30338974
What did you panic buy? I'm going to get a lower (stripped or not I am not sure yet. Need to refresh myself on the values for and against) in the fall.
>>30342421
Yup, good as new and already abusing it.
Whats the best mount for t-2? I'm looking at the combo from larue atm
also. is surefire worth the extra money? or should I just get a streamlight
>>30342902
I really like my Larue 660 mount
I'd go for surefire if you can afford it
>>30342912
It would look funny if I had a streamlight on a 3000 dollar ar-15 I guess, it's just hard justifying why I need a light that is that much more for....?
Is there really that much of a difference
>>30342934
I've bought 2 streamlights and both stopped working.
I've bought 4 surefires and all worked 100%
Just my experience.
Streamlight just came out with some surefire copies and their warranties are great, so you may want to look into those.
>>30342934
Arisaka and Elzetta make good lights too
>>30342902
Best is bobro but the best deal is larue.
>>30342948
well I have 1 ar-15, and I'm just finishing it out
Gonna put a SF 556k on it, a t-2 and a vickers padded I guess I will listen to everyone and just get a surefire
is the sf 556k worth getting? or should I leave my QDC flash hider on it? I could get a suppressor but it won't be for a bit, gotta recoup this trip first lol
>>30342978
Get the SFMB-556-1/2x28
It accepts the newer suppressor
The older ones might be harder to find, and the price difference shouldn't be that much.
Besides, SF suppressors are better than KAC.
Check out the SF warcomp too
>>30342934
Why skimp on a light if you have a $3000 ar
>>30343013
Doesn't the warcomp fuck with bullet stability?
>>30343039
iirc they fixed it on the newer ones
>>30338800
Micro dots huh? Count me in. I'd have been here sooner, but I worked 16.5 hours yesterday then promptly slept when I got home.
>>30343013
I was planning on getting the surefire, I know the kacs are not that great for the price
>>30343033
because the money I save on this lets me buy other things like tax stamps and food?
I want the best, I just have no knowledge of lights and I haven't really seen the justification on paper so I'm trying to get some opinions, so far surefire is winning so ATM i'm going with SF
just trying to justify a purchase
>>30343067
SF is the best, if a light is holding you back from getting ammo you shouldn't have built an expensive rifle in the first place tbhwy.
>>30343053
How does one know if they have the new one?
>>30343067
Surefire is worth it.
>>30343096
idk someone was talking about it a while ago and posted shit from arfcom. I didn't save any of It
>>30339056
Here
>>30343061
how tall are you?
>>30343127
>email from larue
>order backordered
>check account to see what's out of stock
>says shipped and don't see anything wrong
Well, guess i gotta call mark.
>>30343173
Didn't mean to quote >>30343127
>>30343173
Maybe you'll get two t2s
>>30343197
Nah, reread the order and one of the lancer mags is out of stock, t2 and one mag shipped.
Gonna call and tell them to cancel the other mag, no reason to have them waste money on shipping and stickers.
>>30343216
What a nice guy you are
>>30343240
Tnx ;^
>>30342467
>>30342427
>>30342394
>>30342335
If you can't actually SBR I would go with a pistol and a brace. I like mine just fine. I was shooting a while back on some national forest that had recently been closed to shooting. A sheriff came by to ask me stop. He was ex army special forces and commented on my pistol. Super cool dude.
>>30342467
It was what grip..
>>30343420
>>30342467
Pretty comfy indeed!
>>30343557
We need another, more up to date picture.
>>30343585
Someone can add my budget rifle until my goochey rifle is all done. idk how difficult this picture makes it
>>30343585
Has D60 been around?
>>30343617
Not as much as he used to it seems. My AR has changed a pretty good bit since those pictures.
>>30343617
he seems to get banned a lot
>>30343617
He pops in every now and then, just not as frequent as he used to.
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so what exactly are the rules for forward grips on an AR pistol? can i have a KA straight grip on it or is that an ATF bum fuck?
>>30343765
if its under 26" you cant have a VFG but you can hav an AFG,
If its over 26" you can have either.
>>30341077
Patch: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Night-Nine-NIGHT-TIME-IS-THE-RIGHT-TIME-Jormungand-SEAL-Team-9-Alpha-Platoon-/281081503323?hash=item4171c35e5b:g:KgYAAOxyaTxRQJS2
>>30343765
Any <16" barreled gun that doesn't have a stock but is over 26" is an "other", not a pistol. Those can have VFG's.
If it's a <16" barrel and stockless it's a "pistol" and can only have an AFG.
>>30343765
Afg=ok
Vfg=anal play unless >26"oal
>>30343802
>>30343800
>>30343794
im gonna sound dumb, but which is which?
>>30343811
Afg=angled fore grip(pic)
Vfg=vertical fore grip
>>30343811
One is at less than a 90* angle.
One is at a 90* angle.
The BCM VFG that's at like an 85* angle has been ruled as both at the same time so don't use it on a "pistol" because the ATF are fucking retarded.
How to drop in triggers compare to other trigger kits like say an MBT or Geissele? Are there really any differences other than a slightly simpler installation?
>>30341077
>>30343795
Ah, the days of SQUID
>>30343829
>>30343836
thanks! y'all have been helpful for once
>>30343849
MBT and Geissele SSA-E are both great triggers. I highly recommend both, the mbt wait time is around 2-3 months but it's worth it for $125.
>>30340164
What's the muzzle device on the pistol? I've got an A2 on mine and intend to swap it out
>>30343899
I'm planning on guying an SSA or SSA-E honestly since I don't really want to wait that long and everyone has only positive things to say about them (except for their price). But I don't know anything about drop in triggers and wondered if they're worth looking into.
>>30343951
*buying
>>30343951
By drop-in do you mean a cassette type trigger like the Timney/AR Gold/CMC?
Not unless you find a really good deal on one. As in, sub-$150.
Now don't get me wrong, I like my CMC 3.5lb flat single-stage, but the proprietary trigger pins that require (almost microscopic) E-clips to stay in and the fact that cassette triggers as a whole are less durable means it is objectively inferior to other options.
For example, the SD-E has the same pull weight (+/- like 1-2 ounces), uses normal trigger pins, and by design is far more durable. Also has less creep and overtravel. Almost twice what I paid for my CMC though.
>>30343951
Like >>30344000 said, what do you mean drop in? I don't like the cassette triggers but ya can't go wrong with a SSA or E
>>30344000
>>30344027
Yeah I meant like cassettes. Okay thanks. One of the cassette type triggers that has very favorable reviews is the RISE Armament RA-140, which costs $130. So I guess I just have to decide if an SSA-E is worth the extra $100.
>>30343951
If you go with the Geissele wait until primary arms has a sale, its usually 15-20% off.
>>30344035
I'm entirely unfamiliar with that trigger, so I can't give you any advice.
I will say I've tried 14 different AR triggers from 6 different companies, and the one that has the best feel is out of production because it was a fragile, tinkery POS.
>still pissed at Jewell over it
>>30344035
Never used that one so can't say how it is. I would wait until the 4th for sales. You should easily find the geissele shit for 20% off
>>30344168
Im buying a geiselle and a t2 on the 4th ayyyee. Or maybe a mro idk.
>>30343951
The drop-in FCG packs are, by nature of their design, not as durable as normal FCGs
So considering that firearms technology often remains stagnant for centuries, followed by spurts of technological development, do you think we'll see AR-15's on Mars?
How would they handle the dusty, hostile, radiation-riddled environment? How would they handle the temperature extremes?
>>30344242
>Stagnant for centuries
No it doesnt.
>>30344253
It took two fucking centuries to get from flintlock to percussion caps.
Cartridge based ammunition is 150 years old, and we're still using it.
>>30344242
>stagnant for centuries
lolno
>Mars
>temperature extremes
It's literally not as bad as Florida.
>hostile
Can't have a hostile atmosphere if you have no atmosphere.
>>30344270
It was more like 80 years. 200 years was matchlock to percussion cap, which still skips over 2 other action types.
>cartridge based ammunition is 150 years old
Yet *what* the case is made from has changed 3 times and currently has 3 major variants, and smokeless powder's only about 115 years old, and we've technically progressed past that too even though it's still the norm.
>>30344270
>Something works well for centuries, constantly being tweaked and improved through technology
>stagnant
When they ayyliens stop dying from high speed lead injections, we will develop something better.
>>30344270
Are you dumb? Do you honestly think thats the only way firearm technology advances?
See:
>>30344298
>>30344304
>>30344304
don't worry, we'll always have bacteria n sheeet
>>30338800
which one of you has the real sci-fi looking rail on your ar with a pistol brace. It was like all green or some shit.
I want that rail.
>>30344242
(shameless repost I found from 6 months ago)
"I still don't know what the hell you wanted me along for," I shouted at the faceless golden helmets sitting across from me on the back of the buggy as they produced several ancient-looking rifles from a wooden crate on the truckbed and began clumsily pushing stripper clips of ammunition into them. One of the suits threw a rifle into my chest; even in the lower gravity, it was a hefty piece of work. Sloppily-stamped cyrillic with a soviet hammer and sickle emblazoned over the breech stared at me like some kind of joke.
Perhaps the dust was causing interference on the comms; perhaps they hadn't heard me.
"Why am I here!?"
"You are American, yes?"
"I have no idea why that would matter. What are we even doing?"
"You are cowboy. Load bullet." a stripper clip full of largish ammunition was shoved into my hands.
A dim red speck - the sun - rose over rock-strewn ground as we crested a crater rim. The driver made a small adjustment in direction, then gunned it down the reverse slope toward the desert pan beyond. A likely objective shimmered into view through the distortions of dust clouds whipping low over the surface - a tiny group of purple-black huts like geodesic rocks sat amidst an outcropping of rough ground perhaps a thousand meters ahead. No flag, no telemetry on this coming over my suit's personal assistant. Had to be Chinese, or maybe one of their "African" lackeys. Oh, dear sweet jesus.
I tried - and failed - to tear the flag off my shoulder.
"What is this? Are we claim jumping? We're claim jumping aren't we -"
The Russian across from me grabbed me by my shoulders and bumped faceplates with me. I could see the stubble on his face like a shadowed, unshaven skull in the hollow of the helmet.
"AV NU, CHEEKI BREEKI" he said, and then some of the men spontaneously jumped off the buggy into a run, fanning out over the pan and looking for cover. Oh holy shit, they were gonna do it.
Bought an AERO Gen 2 Lower today. When should the next parts kit sale for PSA start?
>>30344304
>high speed lead injections
BY THE TIME WE ARE LIVING ON MARS, WE WILL HAVE MINED SOLID GOLD ASTEROIDS So lead will be replaced by gold.
i am personally excited to buy gold core bullets for 28cpr
>>30344335
How much did you get your t2 for? Im in the same boat as you doing t2 v mro.
