>firearms are banned in your country
What do you build or buy to defend yourself with?
A firearm
>>30334716
Range=king
Polearm>sword>axe>bludgeon
I would probably look for a small bow first though, then a short spear
>>30334720
/thread
This.
>>30334716
A plane ticket to the US
All weapons are illegal in Sweden. Even pepperspray will get you a fine. In Denmark a teenage girl was nearly raped but used pepperspray on her attacker. The police fined her when she called for help.
Axes, machetes, long maglites...
>>30334818
which is weird given how sweden sells weapons to other countries
>>30334716
A gun.
>tfw in europe
>still able to own semis, austrian modified versions tho
>not allowed to own a pump action shotgun
>allowed to own a benelli m4
>>30334818
What are you talking about? Swedes love hunting.
A US visa
Please help
>>30334720
/thread
>>30334818
Don't speak of things you know nothing of. Sweden makes it into the top ten countries for guns per capita, and that's not even counting all the illegal guns smuggled in by criminals from former Yugoslavia. There's a fully legal and registered privately owned firearm for every third citizen.
i prefer milsurp
>>30334870
The EU gun ban that will take effect in a few months amuses me. AR15's and other scary looking semi-auto weapons with a magazine of more than 10 rounds are going to be banned, yet people will still be able to own non-threatening looking guns such as a Benelli m4, as you said. As if it was any less lethal.
You build a slam fire shotgun, don't tell me you can't find 12ga ammo because that shit is everywhere
>>30334716
I head down to the Russian consulate and ask them to pretty please send some of those illegal gun shipments my way. You know they'd do it if the US ever banned guns outright.
>>30334720
FPBP
>>30334933
>lol serrations
>that fuller
Shit/10
>>30334933
>milsurp
>posts one of the most retarded things to ever come out of the mallninja workshop.
>>30334936
Sadly can't get my hands on an ar15 yet, hope the goverment ignores the eu and just deals with sanctions, our weapon industry is quite big and now they even want to ban internet buying. If this law will be accepted, I'll probably move to canada or somewhere were i can buy an AR15 or similiar. Just gotta love getting "kicked out" of my own country
>>30334870
>tfw Ausfag
>no semi-auto anything
>no pump action shotguns
>nothing over 10 round capacity
>some states have caliber restrictions for handguns
>licensing is a hassle
>acquiring a gun is a hassle and has a 1 month wait time
I plan on getting a few machine-shop tools for metalwork and fabrication for car stuff pretty soon, but hell, if shit hits the fan, what's going to stop me from manufacturing simple pistols, rifles, and shotguns?
>>30334919
>that's not even counting all the illegal guns smuggled in by criminals from former Yugoslavia
or the guns owned by regular people that the police just don't know about. There are a lot of guns out there that people aren't telling the police about because they can't be bothered with getting a hunting license, but don't want to get rid of grandpa's old hunting rifle.
>>30335126
Well, as another europoor from Finland, I doubt Swedes are that much different from Swedes in this.
People here are fucking sheep. Seriously, it's not even a joke. If the law comes knocking on their door without any reason to be there they will just let them in and then they're all like ''Yeah why wouldn't you let them in, are you some kind of pedophile?'' ''Nothing to fear nothing to hide =)''. In America, people at least know their rights, but here people just don't seem to care, and will do whatever the law asks them to no matter how stupid or unjustified it is.
I fucking hate this place.
So let's say you managed to build a gun.
How would you get ammunition?
No officer, it's just a flashlight.
>>30335322
These and prop gun blanks are still legal in jolly ol' england.
>>30335329
>no mom, its just a flashlight
![Pietta-1858-44_R[1].jpg_m=1314053116.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kk8xbXi.jpg "Pietta-1858-44_R[1].jpg_m=1314053116.jpg")
>>30334716
I buy a black powder "antique" because it's not a firearm.
an arming sword and a jumbo can of pepper spray
>>30335436
If they made a fleshlight that's as strong as a maglight, i'd fuckin carry one.
>>30334720
This is /thread
>>30334720
But this is true, though. In most western countries where firearms are banned, so are self-defense. Thus defending yourself with a firearm makes perfect sense.
>>30335322
http://thehomegunsmith.com/pdf/EHF_Handgun_Ammo_Book.pdf
>What do you buy
A politician
>>30335511
Say what nigga?
Explain plz.
>>30335511
Yet.
While i like that more people are getting into Black Powder shooting, i'm waiting for the day some tumblr activist starts a viral hashtag about ghost guns or some shit.
>>30335586
Based Philippines detected
>>30334716
Can someone give me a good intro to gunsmithing book? Or a book about gun internals?
I have the doc/k/ument, but all of the books assume previous gunsmithing experience.
>>30335598
State law classifies them as a firearm for me... lol CO2 pellet guns are in same catagory... aren't they more like "icearms"
>>30335592
In the United States. guns made before 189-something are considered antiques. and don't need a background check to buy and can be shipped to your door.
replica guns of any non metallic cartridge firearm are also exempt under the antique status.
I had my Flintlock and my Colt Navy clone shipped to my door.
>>30335611
lel you in New Jersey?
A home made flamer thrower
Bitch is going to be pyromanic
>>30335605
www.thehomegunsmith.com
Clicking on this link is actually illegal for britbongs so be careful
>>30334720
Literally this
>>30335009
I wonder how much I could make selling "souvenir sculpture" incomplete AR 15 lowers by mail to Euroland
>>30334933
>posts bastardized weebshit mallninja zombiekiller abomination
disrespectful
>>30335615
1899. I've had some old Mausers shipped to my door because they're antiques.
>>30335814
Probably not that much, average people who buy AR15's obey the law, we had a few shootings, evertime with illegal guns, that's how great it's working out for us.
>>30334716
A pipe-gun that shoots whatever ammo is available, I'd probably die trying to build one though.
>>30334716
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yam7RUDNddQ
this for home defence.
a knife for carrying around.
>>30334933
Bitch please, old hickory master race
>>30334771
>bloke breaks into your apartment
>don't even get up from your chair
>just poke at him till he bleeds out from spear punctures
>firearms are legal in your country
>but you can't use them for self defence
oooh ca-na-da...
>>30334720
FPBP
>>30336768
I thought that as long as you can somewhat prove you kept your guns and ammo 'properly' stored, warn the guy to leave and then shoot him when he doesn't you were in the clear as long as you didn't do some silly cunt thing like shoot at him while he was running or in the back yard.
>>30336042
Just don't use smokeless and you'll be fine.
This barrel worked fine for like 100ish standard black powder loads and 5 proof loads but immediately KB'd with a smokeless, might have been something to do with compression of the load but IDK.
>>30335598
Same, but I'm expecting a some fucker to waltz into a k-mart with 6 1851 and a matchlock. It'll be that or a shooting with a fixed out 10/22.
After that it's a 6month wait period and licensing for a Benjamin marauder
>>30336805
the law is generally applied on a case-by-case basis.
technically, s.34 allows for an individual to use reasonable force to defend themselves. but there is a lot riding on the case-by-case basis of the meaning of "reasonable". the crown and defence examine a multitude of factors when discussing if the force was reasonable.
a lot of the time ANY type of deadly force is unreasonable, because if you had the capability to use deadly force, you were very likely to have had an opportunity to retreat, but instead you purposefully chose to kill the assailant even when it wasn't necessary.
anyway, what I know for sure is that 'self-defence' is not a valid reason to own firearms in canada. and firearms are regulated according to their hunting, sporting, or collecting purposes. ie, if you can't use the gun for hunting, sport shooting or collecting, then there is no reason to have it in canada because the government does not support the use of firearms as tools of self defence.
>>30334782
I remember this thread.
It was literally a shit shovel.
>>30334933
>forded wan mirrion time
You don't. Buying a gun legally is a hassle, more than probably UK. On short you have to ask to a federal marshal to have a permit, writing a letter saying why you want a gun. After that you have to do the usual background checks, get the permit and then get the gun, but you can't carry it, only have it at home. There's a lot of bureaucracy, I need to get further information. But on Brazil you don't buy anything to defend yourself.
>>30335009
>want ar
>move to canada
>not the US
>be Australian
>there is a law that actually saws you can not have items placed around your house for the purpose of self defence
Keep a ball and glove with that bat you keep in your room ausfags
>>30336989
Moving to Canada is as easy as holding "skilled" work for a year.
Moving to the US is hard as shit
>>30335945
So wrong, shlomo. I'm desperate to make a contact in germany and figure out how to get some old colt m16 lowers shiped over here
>>30336989
Might just be a better decision. We'll find out tomorrow.
>>30334782
>your le argument is le invaled XD
>>30334933
>serration/10
>>30337029
>average
I'd buy one aswell, fuk dem gungrabburs
>>30337026
>Canadian
>Want to move to America for muh salt guns
>Figure out I have to be either lucky or a superhero to move there
>Mrw seeing the amount of illegal Mexicans in the south
>>30337029
>rent apartment in shitty area of Germany
>ship their entire stock of lowers there
>fly over
>ship several old PC boxes with 3-5 lowers in them to the US via sea frieght
Congrats. You won.
Or you could just get s mini mill and accidentally mill 80% lowers with a third hole.
>>30335511
If I load that in New York it is, and I'd have to register it on a pistol permit. My state is literally that shitty.
>>30337029
>desperate to make a contact in germany and figure out how to get some old colt m16 lowers shiped over here
You are literally risking a lifetime in jail for some simple shit you can do with some creative nigger rigging. What's wrong with you?
>>30334716
>>30334720
This
>>30337029
Inside an engine block cough* cough*
>>30334782
Sauce for anyone interested
>>30335126
>>30335224
I feel for you spurdos; I've heard all sorts of crap about police being dicks in Finland. One anon who was an urban explorer and amateur photographer got detained by the Police, who also temporarily confiscated his guns simply because he was near a government building with a camera.
Hammer-Tacker
>tfw club that drives siding staples into chad's head
>>30335719
>information
>illegal in UK
Why do we let other countries even exist at this point?
Also, those sten diagrams are neat as hell.
>>30338070
AMERICA PLEASE INVADE AUSTRALIA, UK AND CANADA
>>30337010
>Australians can't own bullet proof vests without a licence.
A fucking vest licence.
weapons r gay
u r fags
fags r gay
being gay is the gayest thing ever
>>30338070
>Believing anything /K/ has to say about the UK.
I really hope you haven't fallen for that meme. The heroic amount of made up shit people here say about England defies belief.
>>30334720
Boom bitch
>>30338187
>anglo internet defense force detected
>>30338236
It's the weirdest shit as well. I've had multiple people here tell me that the UK crime reporting only counts murders which result in convictions as murders for national statistics.
>>30337126
>illegal Mexicans in the south
I dearly wish it were just there. I'm in Salem Oregon and there are so goddamned many.
>>30334716
A "fuck your shit" stick
The ones I have are made of Osage and hit like a fucking rod of the gods
>>30334720
/thread
FPBP
this
etc. etc.
>>30334720
beautiful bastard you
>>30339729
This particular fuck you stick is as big around as a beer bottle and the ball is like a softball in size. The wood it's made of is so dense that it rang like angle iron when it hit the ground, in fact this stick weighs a little over 8 pounds and that's 8 pounds of "BOOM BOOM MOTHERFUCKER!!!"
>>30334716
Do you really need me to post it again?
http://www.pdf-archive.com/2016/06/20/9mm-bullet-hose-practical-scrap-metal-small-arms-vol-8/
>For educational purposes only, consult your local laws before component purchase or attempting construction
>>30335086
You aussies seem to have gotten lutys down
>>30339783
Any machinists or whatever care to chime in on whether this guide has enough detail to actually build the gun? I watch a youtube channel where the guy built a scrap metal small arms pistol, but he had to make a lot of changes for it to work right since the guide was shit. Though pistols are way more finicky than pipe guns.
>>30339992
Not really. Look up STEN build guides. It's pretty much the same.
There's only some technique to building these scrap guns- welding on the trunnion right, getting the rail smooth, tacking on sights and ejector.
After a while you just have to understand what you're doing on a basic level and think "what would work here". They're not complex machines, after all.
>>30339769
I wonder how it'd feel taking it up the butt
>>30334716
Compound bow
Crossbow
Nail Gun
Chainsaw
Fireaxe
Hatchet
Flares
Petrol bomb
Slingshot and steel BBs
Spear
IR laser in the 1W range
Eye protection
Scope for IR laser with filter
Thermite
Cattle prod
Sling
Pitchfork
Billhook
Sword (any)
Knife (any)
Golf club
Cricket bat
Cap with lead weight sewn in back
Weed removal flamethrower
Microware solenoid gun
Spark gap generator (drones)
Paintball guns with pepper balls
Sulphuric acid in glass bottles
Improvised shotgun
Cannon (BP)
Whip
Sai
Headbutt
Length of chain
Ball point pen
Cutthroar razer
boxcutter
ECD ring
Knuckle duster
Switchblade
Sharpened butter knife taped to broom handle
Carbon monoxide
Chlorine Gas
Mains electricity
Salpeter/charcoal and sulphur
4x4 with cattle grill
Longbow
Recurve bow
Plasma rile in the 40MW range
Boiking water
Boiling oil
Petrol ignited by laser in 1Wat range
Body armour
Napalm (Styrofoam and petrol)
Deadfall traps
Spite traps
Matchhead pipe bombs
Staff
The choice is infinite really
Why do you ask though?
Bleach spray to the eyes and genital nudity works for me.
The last thing you ever see is my balls.
Attack dogs
Barbed wire flail
Crowbar
Tire iron
Hedge trimmer and pornography
Tennis ball launcher
Rude wods
Expedient homemade firearms. Black powder under hammer (for simplicity) flare gun conversions, pipe shotguns, zip guns, leaf spring crossbow...your imagination is the limit
>>30334716
A straight-blowback submachine gun chambered in whatever my local police force uses.
Dustbin lid and turkey carving knife
sparkler bomb
Rude hand gestures
A large black latex dildo
A stiletto
Steel cap boots
Lead pipe
Ricin from kidney beans
A big erection and a grin
>>30334720
First reply best reply
>>30336883
>or collecting
Im ignorant about canuckistan law, so i have to ask:
I get that your gubmint allows hunting and sporting purposes, because the authorities can easily verify if you are telling the truth.
But wouldnt "collecting purpose" mean " i just want to have this gun, because i like it" ? Or are there some specific guidelines about what counts as collecting?
"officer, these 20 ass salt rifles are just part of my legally owned collection, and so are these .50 cal rifles. "
ground class in a straw blown in the eyes
A credit card with a melt sharp edge
A belt with a big buckle
A big net
A ball gag and bench
surgical instruments
A fire iron
A thrown oil lamp
A lightbulb tapped and filled with petrol and reinserted in the socket
Force feeding mentos and coke
A prostitute with HIV
Baseball bat with handle modified to act as a slamfire shotgun.
And pocketsand
>>30334716
A phone to call the police in the event of Jamal and friends wanting to kill/rob me.
Im positive that it will work just as well as a firearm...
A brick
A rock
Bolas
A garrotte from guitar wire
Bad poetry
>large stick
>broken 40oz malt liqour bottle
>pen knife
>rude anal gestures
Hammer
Pool cue
Battery in a sock
Kubaton
Tonfa
Occult incantations
Glass to the face
Ice pick
Machete
Scythe
Drone with 1W focusable IR laser
Drone with RDX and ceramic bearings
A small Asian woman in suspenders
>>30334716
firearms.
sentry gun with flamethrower
Chisel
Screwdriver
sharpened cock ring
500 Mw green laser dazzler
Homemade pepper spray
Lasso
Two stroke angle grinder
Handcuffs and lubricant
Boiling milk
A Paris Hilton CD at full volume
bullet bow
horse bow
Meat carving fork
Oven cleaner spray
Inflatable butt plug
A war horse and sabre
A gaggle of unpaid street prostitutes
A bag of marbles (thrown on the ground
A scarf soaked in sugar and engine oil on length of wire
A boat hook
A friend
A tightly rolled newspaper
A umbrella with a sharpened point
A silk die stuffed with coins
Your teeth
>>30340322
>Bad poetry
you a vogon?
>>30340471
>Your teeth
'Stop biting yourself! Stop biting yourself!'
Milk
Eggs
Some more of that cheese
Peanut butter
Ham
Potatoes
Loaf of bread
>>30340138
I bet this post is banned in Britain.
>>30334716
A gun.
>>30340476
The plans were on display.
An intergalactic demolution fleet
A snooker ball
A bunch if keys
A melt sharpened toothbrush
A stout walking stick
A nicotine filled syringe
A bleach filled syringe
Needle nosed pliers
A divorce lawyer and a Russian mail order bride
A steak knife
>>30340561
>rock condom
You think I'd get reprimanded for handing those out as side-arms? Not like enlisted are gonna use the condoms like they're supposed to anyways.
>>30340536
Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
and don't forget your towel anon
>>30340516
That's BORING
Everyone does that
OP said no firearms
You can make a gun with the contents of any hotel room (true)
A shark with a laser on its head
A bi staff
Nunchuks
A bayonet
Acetone and H2O2
A tennis ball bomb
A 2x4 with nails through it
An apple with a razor and needles in it
A milkshake with ground glass
A midget based in marmalade with a garden shears
mfw I would carry what I already carry every day
literally nowhere in the world can this be classified as a weapon
it could only be classified as contraband if you try and transport it across borders or some shit
but thats the beauty of it
you can dump it anywhere and reload anywhere
>pocket sand, mother nature's finest self defense tool
>>30340585
A towel with a rock tied in it
They sent /K on the first ark
A flash bang
A razor wire flail
A sharpened spade
A kukri
A sharpened coin
A mill-wall brick?
Nobody can arrest you for having a newspaper and pocket change, can they?
>>30337010
I genuinely don't understand these laws. Are they intended to force you to retreat from an attacker?
>>30334716
gooseneck crowbar or big knives
>>30340670
It offends the tender natures of a group of people who are protected by a publicly funded armed guard 24/7.
>>30340672
Do they have to be big knives?
>>30340647
ant the world was soon overrun by skinwalkers and furries
>>30340670
Basically this >>30340683
The government love it when you have to solely rely on him
>>30334720
This
>>30334853
Why do you think the merchants of death overcompensate by being absurdly humanitarian and blindly tolerant? Because they try to bribe their way out of a guilty conscience, instead if just embracing it.
>>30335719
Lol I got all their shit saved
>>30340079
That gives "slipping someone a mickey" a whole new dimension.
Look for a crashed meteorite and carve it into a pair of 1911s
>>30336748
Thats a beautiful knife
>>30341050
Is the iron-nickel found in meteorites strong enough to hold up as the main material for a functional gun?
>>30341420
I think they alloyed it with other steels because meteorites make shit steel.
>>30334919
Aah, I forgot the hunting weapons but the state still wants to put more restrictions on them even though they are the most law abiding.
>>30339639
>>30339669
>>30339676
Are you a wizard?
>>30335611
>aren't they more like "icearms"
Underrated.
>>30334716
Plane ticket.
>>30342129
If only all I needed was a plane ticket
>>30334818
Swede here. I have a baseball bat beside my door and a bunch of knifes and brass knuckles. Planing to take hunting license so I can have a shotgun at home. I can also get collecting license and buy pistols but it's really rare that you'll get collecting license
>>30334716
Fertilizer, gasoline, spark plugs, car battery.
Yes, those are defensive because fuck you and your general area.
>>30334933
do you even know what milsurp means MILITARY SURPLUS. tell me where the fuck you've seen a soldier packing that POS.
>>30338259
>I've had multiple people here tell me that the UK crime reporting only counts murders which result in convictions as murders for national statistics.
That's true, though. Use google.
>>30342301
>I can also get collecting license and buy pistols but it's really rare that you'll get collecting license
Just buy a glock17 from Mohammad & Co in your nearest big city. 10-15k sek for the gun, 1-2 mags and 50 rounds.
That, or join a shooting club. You won't be allowed a gun of your own before 6 months active membership, though, and you have to renew the license once every 5 years. In addition, you will need to prove active engagement (~10 competitions a year) in the sport.
tl;dr: sverige suger kuk.
>>30343008
I work with home office counting rules on a daily basis. It's not, and Breibert or whatever /pol/ tier shit you're going to link isn't a legitimate source.
>>30334716
A long bow or cross bow. Then fertilizer, ammonia, bleach. I would then place the explosives far enough away to not cause me harm, mark the explosives and then shoot them with a fire arrow.
>>30343043
>Just buy a glock17 from Mohammad & Co in your nearest big city. 10-15k sek for the gun, 1-2 mags and 50 rounds.
do want but can't spend that kind of money on a gun right now. But if I could I would not hesitate.
>tl;dr: sverige suger kuk.
Verkligen...
>>30340476
HA!
>>30334716
A firearm.
>>30334716
>Buried guns
>Homemade guns
>squirt guns
>potato guns
>paint guns
>nail gun
>insulation gun
>rivet gun
>staple gun
>screw guns
Fuck we had a thread on here a week or so ago about some guy making nerf lethal. Lots of way to kill people without firearms.
>fills squirt gun with lighter fluid
>adds propane torch
>the BubbaBurner 1.9 is born
>>30341650
REDWALL LIED TO ME!
>>30341650
But if you melted it down in order to alloy it, wouldn't you lose the unique etchings the metal has? It wouldn't look like meteorite metal anymore.
>>30334716
still a gun, not like theyre hard to get illegally if you want one bad enough. even easier in gun-freindly countries.
>>30334716
Phased plasma rifles in the 40 Watt range.
>>30340314
slightly better if you live actually, you dont need to deal with cops asking you why ya killed em, they will do it for you
its the whole if you live thing thats up in the air though
>>30338070
You realise the owner and creator of that sites is from and still lives in the Glorious Land of England.
>>30334716
google tire thumper
google fishing priest
google padlock on rope
google bleach spray
ive heard brass knuckles are legal in some european countries. google that shit if they are for you
>>30341983
Yes.
>>30337026
>Moving to the US is hard as shit
13 million spics did it, im sure you can.
macuahuitl
if you're really paranoid, you can practice fighting with a cane a few hours a day
>>30347762
Or you can make a cane gun.
>>30337217
Theoretically what do you think the Eurocuck justice system would do to you if you sawed an intruder in half with a chainsaw?
>>30334790
GG my my good fellow
>>30334716
A Wall
A colt army 1860, or my extendable baton.
>>30339818
Source on these... Ausfag here
>>30334720
Threaded /thread
>>30334720
cant even buy ammo in australia
>>30347800
or a gun
>>30334716
Go to budk
Buy spearheads and spiked club
http://knives.budk.com/search?w=Clubs
http://www.budk.com/Spears-2891
Hello I live in sweden. I did find one of those that was the perfect size for my finger true the ring. I made it really sharp on the point. But sadly the police did arest me for no reason and I got a find for weaponry..
>>30348704
Or a gun gun
>>30334933
Why dont you just get a proper sword instead?
