How does /k/ feel about women being included in the draft?
Good idea or bad?
>>30329962
Good idea in the sense it puts a lot of "equality for women" people in their place. Bad idea if the draft is every enacted. (I'm sure it won't be any time soon but still...)
>>30329962
Feminists wanted equality, so that's what they're getting.
A first step towards equality.
>>30329962
No one cares
I hope they put the men first.
No way im getting a drafted female in my unit
>>30329962
Good, because the military would need the manpower.
Realistically, even though women *can* be in combat roles now, drafted women would generally be in the rear with the gear, in logistics, supply, and support.
This is good, because realistically women have played a major role in previous roles, such as the "Rosie the Riveter" propaganda and the massive movement of women into wartime production.
In this day and age women probably wouldn't hop on the manufacturing bandwagon in a war, so we might as well force them to be useful in a ware.
I speak not from a stance of sexism, but from experience, I joined after 9/11 like a fucking retard to """"""""defend freedom"""""""" and my sister 2 years older was so proud to have her little brother go """""fight for democracy""""" when I told her she could join too, she spouted some bullshit about "but it's the men's job to fight the war." Pretty much the same shit with every other woman. It takes a special type of thirsty skank to join voluntarily.
>>30330042
>Rosie the Riveter
>Woman based on her left her job less than a week after
>>30330048
>propaganda
come one dude, women in wartime production made up massive numbers.
>>30330048
Don't be an asshole, I'm sure you would rather be able keep playing music than to help stop one of the worst modern wars
>>30329962
Being drafted is a responsibility reciprocal to the right to vote.
That's how it was always viewed historically, and was a main reason why most women didn't want the vote in the early 1900's.
I don't think women should have the vote, but as long as they do, they should be draftable.
>>30330058
Propaganda is still one of women's greatest contributions, look at the Soviets, the Israelis or the Kurds, female units don't perform well but they are great for winning sympathy and humiliating enemies because they have to lower themselves to fighting girls
>>30330067
>missing the point entirely
their contribution wasn't propaganda, the propaganda was made to mobilize women as a manufacturing base.
Bad idea. Women will get raped if there is ever a war not to mention their physical shortcoming could put the men at risk.
Maybe they can fly planes or some shit but I definitely wouldn't put them in infantry. It'll pussify the military.
>>30330095
>infantry is the only MOS
Jesus dude, it's almost like most soldiers are POGs or something.
>>30330160
Women are still on average much worse at any job though, grunt or not
>>30330061
>Don't be an asshole
Where the fuck do you think this is, newfag? Tumblr?
>>30329962
Equality's a bitch.
I can't say I mind. Sure will be nice for the military to be a little weaker when they turn it against us
>>30330166
I'd like to see some statistics on that.
How are women worse at driving a truck or filling them up with gas?
The argument that women are inherently worse at literally everything is fucking stupid, and if you go down this route I promise I will make fun of you and then stop responding.
>>30330207
>>>tumblr
>>30329962
Good even if it's just to make feminist and libcucks cry. Cunts gonna learn that equality is a 2 way street. Also does anybody have screencaps of reaction to this? I've yet to see tumblr posts or whinny comments.
>>30330207
Women are physically weaker than men are and they are smaller. Not to mention most women are driving by emotions and not logic.
James Russles
Jimmy Russles
Jimmy Russler
FUCK YES
Equality wins. Put them to fucking work.
>but they suck
No shit
next up, equal PT regs
>>30330255
>Not to mention most women are driving by emotions and not logic
when will this meme die? seriously, this is fucking retarded.
>all men think with their dicks and would desert for some good pussy
>>30330207
>How are women worse at driving
Dunno man, they just are.
We'll never need a draft so this is just an outlet for delicious feminist tears
>>30330272
>next up, equal PT regs
>look Olga, they think we will all run and having do same number of pushups as Sergei!
>acknowledging a draft
>serving this kike government in any positive way
>2016
Rome is on fire dear boy. There is no need to ask what you can do for it anymoie.
let
it
burn
>>30330207
>How are women worse at driving a truck or filling them up with gas?
You have to juggle cans of diesel, fluid, and oil around constantly for maintenance, wiggle under vehicles, haul yourself up and down vehicle cabs in full kit, lift ammo cans, 50 cals, missiles, rucks, etc. And that's just PART of the job in addition to doing all the basic soldiering stuff like digging fighting positions, rucking, and other shit that just in general places a heavy strain on your whole damn body.
Basically everything soldiers do just destroys your limbs and joints. I'm 300 PT score, lift constantly and am /fit as you get but even I get injured all the damn time. Female soldiers just cant hack it and sham or let males share their load. They just HAVE to really. They literally cannot do their job as well as men. The military physically chews up young men in the prime of their life, what the fuck do you think it can do to females?
Sure, by all means, let them do admin and desk jobs but any job that necessitates them to put on an iotv and shoulder a rifle, which is still most of the military, they cannot do as well as men or even meet the minimum standard.
And we're all dreading the fucking day ISIS or AQ gets their hands on a female servicewomen and starts producing videos. America won't be able to handle that.
>>30330312
I signed up but can't serve if they drafted me
>>30330331
drafts are outdated, boy, didnt anyone tell you?
Why would you serve an oligarchy of international banksters and mobsters?
you're going to get fucked over real hard, lad
>>30330323
Yeah the 92F I'm fucking in my unit does half that shit. It's really not as hard as you make it.
Women can be civilian mechanics, they can be 92Fs.
Plus
>sharing the workload
So what you're telling me is that teamwork isn't advised? Don't worry, I know what you're going to say
>i-i-if we need that on woman to lift that one gas can and all die because she can't we're fucked! weakest link!
Nah, if you're to that point your unit is beyond fucked anyway, but that's okay because war is a numbers game and the manpower provided by females provides us with a larger benefit than maybe getting an extra guy or two killed. I'm really sorry, that sounds atrocious, but that's the reality of it.
Before you ask, yeah, I'm an officer or "went to the dark side" or whatever you guys are calling these days. We really are heartless dickbags.
>>30330340
Hope you realize if you aren't signed up by 26 you're a felon
>>30330349
>So what you're telling me is that teamwork isn't advised?
He's telling you that they could carry more stuff if you gave them proper man with balls instead of a vagina.
>>30330374
The argument is NOT "we need women instead of men"
That's fucking stupid and why I think you people are retarded.
The argument is
>why have 2,000,000 men when I can have 2,000,000 men AND 2,000,000 women?
make any more sense?
>>30330374
>>30330382
Even if say, every woman is worth .73 men, you're still getting 1.46 million 'man'power
>>30330382
>>30330386
You would have a point IF the US would suffer from manpower shortages. It doesn't.
>>30330396
Well yeah, but if there's no shortage of manpower they wouldn't have a draft...
>>30330396
>less than 1% in service
In a serious war, we could use the manpower.
Every branch is hurting pretty bad.
Also, we are talking about the draft... what you do when lol no manpower.
Looks like there are going to be a lot of people having a case of PSTD.
>>30330421
haha more like PMSD
Best pussy is white pussy
>>30330365
>ope you realize if you aren't signed up by 26 you're a felon
Different anon here, care to provide details?
>>30330434
I really hope you're not American
>>30330438
I'm a commonwealth citizen
>>30330442
If you aren't signed up for selective service by 26 or 27 you're a felon in the US. You're supposed to do it when you turn 18, but many don't know it exists or forget about it.
>>30330446
Also not signing up makes you ineligible for certain benefits in Education and other shit. Just google it
>>30330042
Women who join as enlisted typically don't have a man in their life to take care of them. i.e. lezbos, skanks, mental cases.
I'm glad my sister never considered joining.
>>30330421
yeah, from having to work with women
>>30329962
They wanted equality and now they have it, god bless America.
>>30330541
that's what I said, but it's the mentality, most normal women don't want to join, which is the issue.
>>30329962
Woman can literally do something in the military if needed. EVERYONE knows they'd be shit in every combat role
>>30330207
>Articles
Yeah because that would really be useful for the military to release figures publicly about how much shittier women are at their jobs. You clearly haven't served, and likely haven't even entered the workforce.
PS: those "articles" exist and they are reports that are generated for commanders. Faggot
>>30330541
/Thread
>>30329962
That's what equality is. The more soldiers the merrier.
They better get hazed and beat up by the higher ranks like the men do.
Equali-cunts deserve it
Out of intrest, if a woman physically can't pass basic training will she still be drafted?
>>30330696
>can't pass female basic training
Literally, HOW
Please explain
>>30329962
Cannon fodder, troop morale, and to shut the feminazis up.
>>30330653
>You clearly haven't served, and likely haven't even entered the workforce
>I think 51% of the population might be useful to some extent, so I'm a child
okay
>>30330365
Nigger I dont care if this shit federal government classifies me as a felon
look around you, this empire is collapsing, soon no one will give a fuck about the federal governemnt or it's "laws".
>>30329962
I question the need for a draft at all
>>30330095
Good for the male morale though
>>30329962
I honestly feel bad for you guys having to serve besides women who cant even do one push up, but I think a draft can be good since it would eliminate the need to molly cuddle them to stay in service and instead force them to grow up in to functioning adults.
Its hard to lose respect for someone who is 2dm shorter than you, weighs 20kg less and still did all the same shit as you did without complaining. They are few but they are out there somewhere, enjoying civilian life as any sane person would.
I think this is a step in the right direction for you guys.
>>30330622
>search for stuff you want
>few of the millions of people on twitter said it
>this proves something
Maybe girls in the military will spawn a push to reduce the weight of the average rifleman's kit at last. Way too many soldiers have been coming home with Arthritis at the ripe old age of 25, and way too much gear is being "lost" to lighten loads.
It's truly awful. Combine lowering the standards for combat to accommodate women, and a strict "equality" standard when the draft occurs, and suddenly you have women in 50 percent of combat roles. If that was the case in any other war in human history, the army surely would have got smashed into pieces immediately.
And let's not pretend the problem is only in combat troops. Women can't shoot as good as men. They fold under pressure. They can't manage or lead as well as men. They aren't as smart as men.
On and on.
If Russia or China invades and there's a fucking draft, we will fucking lose
>>30330042
>would need the manpower
330 million people in the US, under what conceivable standard are we going to need more than 30 million military aged-males?
>>30330417
>In a serious war, we could use the manpower.
In a serious war, every man worth a damn would either volunteer or just be drafted, like in WW2. You really think this country wouldn't defend itself?
>>30330934
>>30330921
nope, you're right, women are not only useless, but actually less than human.
I was just trolling, women are literally cattle.
>>30330714
Well my wife for example, is 5'3 and sometimes she comes with me on my runs. She can barely do a 15 minute mile has little to no upper body strength, in fact the only thing she can do well are sit ups. She isn't fat or anything in fact she is very petite. I'm just curious what they would do with her?
a fighting force is only as strong as it's weakest link.
>>30330949
They would fuck her for sure.
Or at least I would.
Also, I think I need pictures of her.
>>30330949
well my girlfriend goes to the gym with me and can do 11 minute 1.5 mile, she can also do about a dozen pullups and pushups pretty much all day.
>>30330901
Nope. New advances to make your gear lighter? Carry more.
It will never change.
EQUAL RIGHTS
EQUAL LEFTS
>>30330187
>xD le newfag what did u le expect this is 4chan anonemous we are le legion xD
shut the fuck up 12 year old
>>30330949
She would be fucked day in and day out, keeping morale high
>>30330973
Yes but if she cannot meet the physical standards to progress through basic what would they do? Just continually back troop her until she can?
>>30329962
terrible idea but funny as hell
>>30330972
Nice try, I know better than that.
>>30330622
>implying lots of men didn't get injured or something like that to draft dodge
I don't agree to women in the armed forces but that's cherrypicking desu
>>30329962
It wouldn't be bad if we made a tank with an autoloader.
>>30329962
>Women get drafted
>The majority fail the physical and basic
It's important that the military doesn't lower its standards
>>30330166
What about office work?
>>30330306
>tfw no qt russian soldier gf
>>30331017
Argument is useless, she can.
females can cook, clean the barrack, do laundry and help soldiers relieve sexually.
>>30330446
Wait what? I thought they automatically do that shit when you turn 18. Great, I got to deal with some paper work now.
>>30331077
no, but youve got to sign up before you can get any federal loans/grants
>>30330349
>the 92F I'm fucking
god, every male 92F I met in the Army was a lazy piece of shit. The one in my third unit lost my driving record I had had since I was an E1, then had the balls to tell the 1SG I never gave it to him. Females in that MOS can suck too. Had one in my squad in PLDC, couldn't pass her PT test run and couldn't march us to save her life...she still graduated.
>>30331094
She lets me put it in her ass and then her mouth. She's cool as fuck.
>>30331075
>females can cook, clean the barrack,
No they can't
>>30331139
virgin detected
>>30329962
It's a god-awful idea that creates a net harm to society. Which is probably exactly why the fedora-tippers out there are celebrating it.
I don't like it. The pride of a country is its women and they should be defended. As much as I hate special snowflake SJW feminists and want them to be scared shitless, the regular women are a prize worth keeping safe. It's a morale boost for men in war to know that they are protecting the women back home who are raising the children to continue society.
Aww yeah, equality
Talk shit, get drafted. All these bitches will just end up in Finance, so stop crying. Not like finance was ever competent.
>>30331188
>women are the rpide of a country
Well, that stopped being true decades ago. Put the whales to work.
They want to make fat into the standard, I say make drafted bitches the standard as well.
>>30331214
>the regular women are a prize worth keeping safe.
Get off the internet for an hour and you'll see Tumblrinas aren't the norm.
>>30331188
This.
Only fat MRA fucks think it's a good idea to punish the normal women of society in order to get revenge against a sliver of SJW retards.
This is a bad, bad, bad idea.
>>30329996
ikr
>>30331226
>sliver
You mean half the fucking pizza
>>30331247
You need to get out of the basement more often.
>>30329962
Irrelevant. The Draft hasn't been acted on since Vietnam and with the political climate the way it is it likely won't any time soon.
>>30331252
not that guy but if you think normal women dont support whoever is offering the most benefits and the least responsibility, youre delusional. this piece of legislation will never come into effect but it might keep sjw's from pushing for mull bullshit legislation for fear of actually being held accountable on a societal level.
>>30331252
Hey gurl. Its gonna be alright. What zip code?
>>30330042
>Realistically, even though women *can* be in combat roles now, drafted women would generally be in the rear with the gear, in logistics, supply, and support.
And anyway, if they draft, it means SHTF. So either way you're gonna need as much manpower as you can.
Even assuming a woman is 0.6 of a man, you can still increase your manpower by 60%.
>>30329962
It doesnt really matter since a draft will not happen but absolutely hate it. Women should be continuously pushed be going back to being as feminine as possible, no as masculine as possible.
women in .mil are either manbeast lesbians or turbo sluts. it should remain the garbage heap of females (if they absolutely MUST have the ability to join), not seen as 'normal'.
>>30329962
My country has this also. If we ever mobilize, we can put women in logistics and support roles, increasing our available manpower.
>>30329962
I think there should be an option to opt out of the draft but be barred from voting.
Because let's face it American politics shouldn't be just a free ride.
>>30330042
Not the same country, but i met some good female professionals in the Army...
>>30331346
This.
>>30331340
Firstly, when a draft happens it's not the end of society at home. In fact, it's meant to be used early enough to prevent exactly that. Women keep the homefront running normally, raise children, and give the men something to fight for.
This is war! We need all hands on deck!!!
Women used to be drafted to pick up domestic duties, now it's [Curremt year] and it's time for women to pick up a gun!
>>30331077
your supposed to get a registration card when you turn 18 in the mail but since they send that using the census and other shit you'll have to just go to the post office and fill one out. Its just some basic info
even funnier i keep getting the registration card even though ive been in the military since i was 18. been almost fined for not reporting for jury duty as well while i was deployed
lots of derp in the system
>>30331244
>a bunch of spoiled women say something stupid therefore the state should compel people to die for israel
bootlicker detected
>>30331346
>Women should be continuously pushed be going back to being as feminine as possible
That's why the Air Force exists
Overall it's a dumb fucking idea, but at least we get to watch the 5% of women who are SJWs squirm.
>>30331454
>5%
>>30329962
>>30330255
As long as they're held to the same standards as men. If, for instance, their PT is less intensive, e.g. they only have to run half as far, and have more time to do so, or have to carry lighter packs, then I don't want them in the same branch of military as Men. Someone responded to whether or not Women should have to do less PT, and said something along the lines of "I don't care if they have a cunt, as long as they can drag me behind cover if I'm hit"
>>30331462
Go walk around downtown and tell me what percentage of the females you see are from Tumblr.
The internet is notorious for giving small minorities a powerful voice.
>>30330042
>when I told her she could join too, she spouted some bullshit about "but it's the men's job to fight the war." Pretty much the same shit with every other woman.
Had this same "debated" with a friend and her husband a while back.Now I'm not exactly keen on women in combat, but. They cited some article from some preacher about how women should never be on the front lines because a mans duty/instinct to protect blach blah and that women can't command respect.they're Christians so go figure.
So I gay em a list of about 20 or so historical BAMF female leaders but they weren't having it as if some how the every male would feel obligated to protect the female over say the younger males or EVERYONE ELSE in their unit that they've been with for months.
This is ignoring the fact that anyone in that position likely would have earned the spot and I've known some tough bitches. AND everything they said is more or less shit on by the marines testing with mixed units since the males are letting the women fail. So if you leave the standards where they are and woment get through, then fuck it. You have it or you don't, same as the guys.
The real issues are with whoring around, sexual assaults and pregnancies.
![G.I[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LNrud7Y.jpg "G.I[1].jpg")
Women in the army.
>>30331640
They are only like this because military leadership sucks.
If every NCO and filed grade officer wasn't a weak willed bitch, they'd treat females the same as males. But instead they see this as a chance to distract themselves from their marriage to their fat wives.
>>30331470
It is less intensive and they have lower physical requirements and standards then men.
There is an overlap of physical ability between the highest female marine run time and a moderate male marine run time. Most (meaning a literal 99%) female marines aren't even able to do more than 10 pullups. 20% can't even do 3 pullups without do a kipping motion. This is all done with a women's body weight which averages about 105-130. The average male body weight is 180-205 pounds in the military.
The super majority of females cannot pickup an average military male nevertheless carry him 100 yards or even drag him that length.
These are just numbers but going from a Division unit (combat arms) to a POG ass logistic unit was a great fucking eye opener about females. Your totally average female marine is a whopping 5 foot three inches 120 pound slayer of cock. They're absolutely useless in lifting gear, cannot PT with the males, fuck around like it's cool, and whine about everything. They ruin unit cohesion with their bullshit and there is ALWAYS a horny SNCO who gives them special treatment and won't blink an eye to give paperwork to lower enlisted who call him out on it.
The females who are actually on par with the average male marine are incredibly rare but more often than not are fucked in the head mentally and lack in various other areas like shooting, job proficiency, and not being the barracks whore.
There is a limited number of manpower slots you can have and females are a wasted slot that a male can fulfill with ease. They're a waste of time and waste of resources so the military can appeal to feminist's feelings and not get their budgets reduced again.
>all the semi capable Men and Women get drafted
>all that's left at home is hamplanets who couldn't lift an ipod without stuggle, the disabled, the retarded and the people willing to commit self harm to escape the draft
it's nice that it shut's the retards of the groups up (or makes them cry louder?) but i dunno if it was worth it.
>>30331470
>As long as they're held to the same standards as men.
Why? Women are different to men. The strong man is different to the skilful man.
>>30331733
This is what it boils down to. They have to take women in the military now, because so many people are either;
>fat
>old
>mentally ill
>on drugs
Western countries do not have a choice whether to take women or not. They have to accept anyone that can walk.
>>30330042
The thing is, wars themselves seem to be stupid endeavors with destructive results that happen from confusion and misinformation.
That means the less manpower they have, the better.
>>30331782
>on drugs
That's mainly the reason why and a limited number of open jobs in the military. There's always an ample amount of men to be in the military but the budget is low right now so there are lesser amount of open jobs. The military is being more selective than they were ten years ago.
Love of my life is joining the muhreen cuh, how fucked am I?
>>30330207
take a looksie here you cuck http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/10/439190586/marine-corps-study-finds-all-male-combat-units-faster-than-mixed-units
>>30330796
who the fuck uses decimetres? You don't even use them in the most anal retentive sciences.
goddamn, if you need to guesstimate just use inches. Life is simpler that way.
>>30331722
I've met the even rarer female soldier who is better than most men when I took a BMQ. I swear I have a better chance of seeing a unicorn than someone like her ever again.
She was more athletic than most of the men, did not bitch about anything, called out most people who complained too much, handled a rifle better than most of /k/ can, wasn't a whore, and to cap it all off she was sixteen fucking years old. I was starting to think she was a hallucination from too much anime and 4chan and then quitting cold turkey.
>>30329962
Good idea in principle, but they shouldn't have different fitness standards for men and women. Instead they should decide on what specifically you need to do to be a soldier, and require everyone to meet that standard. If there are different fitness standards, it should be based on what position you have within the military (i.e. drone operator vs front-line infantry), rather than on gender.
>>30332010
>this one time i met this super strong woman who's better than man i swear
yeah no
>>30330949
this
>gf is 5'6
>struggles to ruck 25lbs up a small mountain
But it was fine because
>we're on vacation, nobody's shooting at us
>tent sex is best sex
>I haven't exactly been in peak condition either since injuries.
Deployments are different, only one of those applies
>>30329962
Honestly it's a goddamn retarded idea. You had people vehemently rejecting the idea of women in combat arms (I was/am one of them) then you had a lot of the same goddamn woman-hating neckbeards turn around and shout "DRAFT THEM THEN! DRAFT!".
Those were the stupid assholes that cared more about keeping women out for the wrong reasons ("muh feminism hurr durr") rather than the right ones (physical weakness, logistics, doctrine). The same ones that wanted to keep them out now want to force them into it just to prove a point and I can't be any more pissed.
Just to clarify my position again: women should never have been allowed into combat arms and definitely shouldn't be forced to register for the draft because of "muh equality". Men and women are just not equal regarding this, I don't know what's so hard to understand.
Sounds like a great way to get the draft permanently abolished.
>>30331983
>who the fuck uses decimetres
Scandinavians
>>30331733
men with important jobs wont be drafted either
>>30329962
>That pic
Made my fucking day
>MFW libtards get what they want and don't like it
To answer OP, I'm not bothered by it. The day may come where we need every meat shield we can muster, regardless of sex.
All the Emperor asks of us is that we hold the line, and we die standing.
>>30331733
Are we going to end up like Japan post ww2 except with fat sjws instead of animoo?
>>30331867
>love my life
>enlisted chick
You sound white trash as fuck, so you won't be any more fucked than you already are.
>>30332012
This. allow them in, but keep the same physical requirements. there will be plenty of women who will be up to snuff.
but also, there needs to be awareness about the possibility of rape if they are captured. women joining the combat sections need to be warned of this maybe some type of extra training should be taught to them if the situation does arise.
vagina weapons, maybe?
>>30332127
I always knew there was something off about them...
>>30332214
>>30330272
>equal PT regs
Funny thing is, I've seen them complaing that the reason women have had such a hard time all the infantry schools is because "they haven't been held to the same standard as men."
Bitch, the only reason unequal standards exist is because we used to understand that women literally can't physically compete with men.
Then the kicker is when they say "well the standards don't really need to be that high, physical strength isn't very important for a modern army."
>>30332157
This.
>>30332214
Guy here who replied with pic, I'd like to add that there should be the possibility of segregating combat units by sex
I see a lot of people noting that women in combat units would be raped, but can't men be raped by some enemy combatant too? I mean probably not this current conflict but any other one in our future.
>>30329962
Good idea in theory, but in real world that would be pretty horrible idea.
Our military (Funland) allows women to volunteer for military service and most of them turn out to be pretty good in it, but that is because:
1. Our Armed Forces take women as volunteers only, hence they tend to be higher quality than average male conscripts. Women who volunteer here are highly motivated to begin with and usually better prepared for military service than average males. Also, the fact that large percentage of them are looking for possibility to get military leadership training as NCO or officer for their future (civilian) career does not exactly harm either.
2. There is a screening process for those about to start their volunteer (women) or conscript (men) service, it usually screens out the crazies and those otherwise unsuited.
3.Salary during volunteer military service is on same level as for in conscript service and is actually less than what social welfare pays for unemployed, hence no welfare queens.
4. Special clause allows any women that volunteered to military service to terminate her service during the first 45 days without any repercussions. Hence those who cannot hack it, flush out early on.
>>30330207
>The argument that women are inherently worse at literally everything is fucking stupid
'sup neverserved. We've seen it and experienced it firsthand. The lack of controlled studies for you to cite has to do with the lack of those studies actually being performed.
>>30331983
There's nothing wrong with decimeters, faggot
>>30332245
yeah i want to lean towards that to, but I'd want more studies done just to be sure.
were female russian snipers segregated during wwii? I think once they hit the front they ended up mixing with men because "lol war is unpredictable"
>>30330042
>like a fucking retard
>"""""""" """"""""
>""""" """""
Oh trust me, you didn't have to state it for us to realize how clinically retarded you really are. Your posts say enough.
>>30331983
>who the fuck uses decimetres?
Nipponichi?
>>30329962
is it a good idea? No.
Is it hilarious? Yes.
>>30330349
>officer
>fucking an enlisted female
Thanks for confirming stereotypes retard. Have fun with your fraternization charges.
>>30332271
>neverserved
never served what? israel?
>>30332281
You only need a new prefix for each 10 to the power of
3.
You and your unneeded units can get fucked.
Imperial fills the gaps just fine.
>feels good to be a bongistani and use a bizarre, bastardised mix of metric and imperial.
You can't judge literally every single woman at once. It's entirely possible for a female to just as good if not better than a man in a Combat position. I know I'm probably going to get SJW or some other buzzword but only an idiot deals in absolutes. You can't judge every single person on the shortcomings of few. Just as there are a number of women who won't have the stuff to make it in the military, im sure there are some basement dwelling men who couldn't manage either and there are plenty of /fit/ women who would, and we need just as many people in the field as we can. My ramble is over
>>30332481
Admittedly, thats the only thing about being bongistani that feels good. The rest is pretty shit.
>Be me 24
>Paydebtans army mandatory service for 9 months
>Apply for serving as an RO (Reserve Officer)
>Get shat upon in Officer Cadet school
>Finally get my rank
>Got sent to a military base on an island near the borders
>fml.jpg
>Commander of the base is a female sublt she's on leave when I arrive
>Expect a stuck up cunt constantly on her period
>One day I was having my lunch in the officers restaurant
>Being the only officer there it could get pretty lonely, I usually ate with the privates but officer food was best food
>Suddenly this 8/10 qt walks in
>See her rank, sublt
>OHGODYES.mp4
>Have lunch together, talk about music, movies and such
>She's a military academy graduate and turns out she's pretty well educated too
>Work with her on how to set up the base better for the rest of the day and the following days
>Organize weapon drills, fire our G3s and 45s side by side laughing
>What was supposed to be an "unfavorable transfer" on a rock I didnt even know existed turned out to be one of the best experiences ever
>Suddenly get a call
>"Excellent work, to reward you we will be transfering you close to home"
>n-no.gif
I cant stop thinking about her ;_;
If we didnt have grills in the army these feels wouldnt be there
>>30331225
You are right, dumb instagram girls are the norm.
>>30331247
i can see the congestive heart failure from here
>>30330290
Dunno, man. Sources say otherwise.
http://www.iihs.org/iihs/topics/t/general-statistics/fatalityfacts/gender
>>30332487
Fun fact: Human beings are herd animals above all else. You are not the special snowflake your Facebook friends told you you were.
Every personality you have ever encountered is represented in a million other people (or more).
So yes, you can judge. Judging is taking data associated with a certain outcome and comparing that with similar data you are presently encountering. Its what lets us function.
>>30332686
safer driver=/=better driver
That said most drivers are shitty anyway.
>>30332467
(you)
>>30330323
>nd we're all dreading the fucking day ISIS or AQ gets their hands on a female servicewomen and starts producing videos. America won't be able to handle that.
That would be ugly on a lot of different levels. The videos would be bad. Our response would be horrifying. We would go full-on Vlad The Impaler-style genocidal bloodbath.
>>30332686
Hasn't been normalized for time/miles driven. It is a well known fact for example that women are vastly worse motorcyclists than men, but it won't show up in statistics because of how few women actually use a motorbike.
>>30332702
Well said, while there are statistical outliers most people can be categorized pretty easily
>>30332805
>we are dreading
My dick isn't, good snuff is hard to come across. I've been watching that same Turk vs Kurdish chick video for the last month over and over.
>>30332702
Let's agree to disagree. I can post all day that we are all unique individuals that are shaped by past experiences and you'll argue that humans are herd creatures. All that gets us is a quickly derailed thread. I understand your points but I do not agree with them. I'll grant you that humans in part are still driven by a herd pack mentality, but I think as we have evolved we have moved past that and herds have taken a backseat. I respect your opinions, but I'll head back to /tg/ now.
>>30332586
Just find a way of fucking up so they leave you there
>>30332805
>yfw female service members fight like sixty men after the first one because they're not going to let those goatfuckers do the same thing to them
RIP in pieces ISIS you were scary for all of 12 minutes
>>30332778
So what metric do you use to identify better drivers?
>>30333010
Not him but if they're in a BMW they're guaranteed to drive like a psychopath regardless of gender
>>30330740
Option of last resort but conscription is a vital part of any nations defense. Levee en masse saved the fledgling French Republic from the hostility of every neighboring country and their small fancy professional armies (which is the model we are currently using). Never underestimate the value of mass conscription.
>>30333010
Are professional drivers, people who are good enough to be paid to drive, mostly male or female?
>>30330207
Women drivers, no survivors.
>>30333049
Just like this thread
>>30332261
In Funland maybe 3/10 women would make good soldiers. The ones I met in recce were tough as nails, but they were badly outnumbered by the shitty attention seekers I met in support and signals.
>>30329962
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
THEY WANTED COMBAT ROLES
NOW HERE'S THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT COMES WITH IT
Women are fucking toxic to a military unit. Between pregnancies, excuses, and the absolute inability to perform a job, they only serve to hinder the division as a whole. The draft will likely never be reinstated, and will be removed before too long, but in the impossible event of women being drafted, they would likely fill administrative and support roles to allow more men in combat.
>>30333020
Well, yeah. Beemer drivers act like they've been up all night drinking Red Bull and vodka. Volvo drivers act like they've been downing shots of Nyquil.
>>30332996
No, they would just quit. Women are fucking worthless.
>>30333010
http://mashable.com/2016/06/01/female-parking-spaces-china/#o3SWreM_ngqt
>spaces are an estimated 50 percent larger than the other spaces.
When Asians think you are a bad driver you are probably a terrible driver
>>30333031
That's a low bar you're setting. I had a CDL with hazmat endorsement for a while. It's about middle school-level reading comprehension, a little bit of memory work, and the ability to drive.
Places like UPS and Fedex mostly look for a clean driving record, just like every other employer on the planet.
>>30333112
This is the opinions of this thread and most of /k/ summed up in a single post.
>>30333101
There's definitely a negative correlation between the price of the car and the skill of the driver.
Positive correlation with vehicle value and just driving like a cunt.
>>30333188
>BMW 3.0 CS driver
Chill as fuck, cordial as fuck, nice as fuck, everyone is happy
>pre-owned piece of dogshit used 528i or 328i
Fucking cunt fuck, most aggressive cunt on the road, when you are face to face with them they fucking stare at the ground or straight ahead like a rape victim.
Its not all BMW drivers, just the middle management mobiles driven by people with something to prove
The price doesn't mean shit.
Also fuck this vehicle in particular. All GL drivers need to be flayed and their skins flown as flags.
>>30333161
I'm pretty sure they meant "professional driver, closed course" not "has a CDL" when they were talking about professionals.
>>30333174
I can't tell if you're implying that I'm wrong. Try serving with them, hell, even working with them in the civ side you can see how they affect everything. Fucking everyone and starting shit.
>>30330949
>having a wife and on 4chan
ha
ha
fucking loser
...
>>30331443
>RWBY
Where's the Yang Xialong one?
>>30333241
Congratulations on being an outlier.
I drive a shitty astra because it's straight steel, definitely not because I'm poor. Honest.
Why on God's green earth is there just something about SUVs that attracts the "do you have any idea how much money my husband makes" types
>>30329962
Obviously it shows that women shouldn't be able to vote or serve in the military
>MUH EQUALITY
>WAIT NO
Women are dumb as shit
But they should be protected. Having them get drafted out of spite to promote the false idea of gender equality is wrong
Maybe .01% of women can do what most men can do on the battlefield.
>>30331424
>DA JOOOS
>>30333339
I'm of the opinion that they asked for it, and they fucking got it.
Welcome to the big boy's club, ladies. Equal rights, equal responsibilities.
And if it comes to a draft then just dump them in the rear with the gear and let them think they're doing something important. That way no-one gets hurt.
>>30333339
>But they should be protected.
m'lady
And no. They shouldn't get any special privileges.
>>30333256
"Professional driver" means somebody who gets paid to drive. Most professional drivers drive delivery or freight vehicles.
>>30330207
>How are women worse at driving a truck
You're fucking joking, right?
>>30329962
I dont think women should be in the military in the first place.
>>30329962
It is going to fuck up demographics if there is a big war. The good thing is that some women will have a kid in case of war so they won't go to fight, or they will renounce to some ((feminist rights)) to stop being included in the draft.
>>30331247
dear god she's melting
Here in Norway we have mandatory draft for all females born in 1997 and after. So indeed, a bunch of stacey's normies are in. Your classical makeup girls who only cares about kardashians etc. Our military is really pushing to get females in, standards are also a bit lower for them and since the military are so desperate to get them in all are accepted almost. All roles are also open for them.
>>30333495
Either way they tend to be male, especially at the highest end of pro driving like racing and stunt driving
>>30329962
What they wished for is not what they wanted. Their despair makes me smile.
>>30330280
>Women's voting rights
>Prohibition right afterwards
>Not feels at all
>>30333667
>It is going to fuck up demographics if there is a big war.
I don't know. Robots and computers have replaced so many factory jobs that I don't think we need Rosie the riveter any more.
If the military was smart they'd put them all in logistics, quartermasters, delivering supplies, etc and leave the combat to men. There are definitely ways that they can help a war effort, infantry just isn't one of them.
>>30330095
Rape is illegal.
>>30331188
What is this, the 19th century?
You realize women are normal human beings right? Not some sort of demi-angels you're portraying them to be.
>>30331295
she looks like she could use a burger
It's amazing how quickly they were able to pass this authoritarian bill after taking so long to let women into the military at all. At the same time, if men must register to be chosen for slave battalions, then women should to. Ideally, no one would have to. Ideally, we wouldn't have wars.
>>30333667
If you have 10k men and 10k women and lose, say, 3k men in a war, this means you'll have 7k men to breed 7k women and thus have 7k children, as well as 3k that don't contribute to your people's demographics (unless a man can have multiple legal wives, which afaik is a no-no in the West, and not only). But if the women fight as well, casualties would be shared, so you have 8500 men and 8500 women and thus 8500 children, and no idle women. I know, it's a super simplified example, but I think my point is clear.
>>30330733
You're a edgy faggot. At least try to be funny next time.
>>30331407
Do it online. It's insanely quick
>>30331632
They're not leaving the standards where they are though. Women have been given lower physical standards to pass
>>30330207
>I promise I will make fun of you and then stop responding.
Oh no! Not that!
This site is getting too much for me guys, I'm out
I just asked my QT3.14 coworker her thoughts in the equality shit and the draft she responded qoute: "When girls ask for equality we only mean like some things, not everything "
>>30330544
>>30329962
If you can serve in combat roles, you damn well better be on the draft
You reap what you sow
>>30330417
A serious war will be over too quickly for attrition to matter
You start and end with what you have at the outset
>>30334358
If you ask for equality and say "not like this" when you get it, then you didn't actually want equality.
So fuck off.
>>30334422
>A serious war will be over too quickly for attrition to matter
Sure thing, home by Christmas.
>>30334446
>I'll cite WW1 because that was 100 years ago and completely relevant while ignoring the Gulf War that was 25 years ago
>>30334462
>Sentiments expressed by people on the eve of WWI
>>30331037
Till it throws a track and you've got two women and two men to do the work of 5 men...
>>30330622
>Government calls for a draft to make white people breed
>>30329962
Baby boom imminent, when did i miss this?
>>30331214
I'm actually impressed that cow could get up on her toes.
>>30330272
Youre so shill bitch ass nigga
>>30330021
No one cares about your fucking name namefag
>>30330015
You're right but it's still a shit idea, there's plenty of men who can do the job, and mixed companies have proven to fare worse than all-male companies.
The USMC made studies on this last year or something, turns out females actually make bad soldiers (who would have thought), something like the top 1% of females will barely be able to compete with the bottom 5% of males in the physical drills.
It's basically just the regressive left brainwashing people into believing that "women can do what men can do" but in reality they can't.
Not trying to be salty or a faggot or anything, but imagine a 220lbs man (with gear on) gets wounded, and now a 120lbs woman with a quarter of the upper body strength has to pull him to safety.
And that is only the best chase scenario, imagine draft for ALL women, this is without a doubt a terrible idea. Most women I know would NEVER be able to become a soldier, and most of them would probably be against female draft for the above-mentioned reasons.
Basically, I think the way men and women are raised in our culture (and most cultures) makes them inclined for different work (mind fuck, I know), and the majority of women are not going to be able to mold into "killing machines", and even those who would, would be terrible at it.
TL;DR Keep the draft for men, women on average are too physically (and often mentally) weak to do the job.
>>30334690
This
>>30332252
Men do get raped when captured by the goat fuckers in the middle east, but it doesnt have an effect on people like a woman getting raped would
>>30330622
Mandatory abortions is the simple solution to that.
>>30331424
> If I defend these online women, one of them will sleep with me!
> No really, they will!
>>30335572
>aborting enlisted personnel's children
But from where will we get our service industry employees?
>>30330622
>Unit comes up for deployment
>everyone gets preggers but a few females
>turned 18
>get draft mail thing
>decline because lol not a citizen so can't do it anyway even if I wanted to
>friends signed up and others tried to dodge it or whatever
What's so bad about it? I don't get it. I'm totally for avoiding military service from where I come from since it's literally a police state where they'll kill your ass, but the US ain't like that yet and the military doesn't seem comparatively as bad
Did I miss out?
>>30330915
If China invades we're fucked anyway. Just too many
Mark my words
If this passes the draft will be abolished within a year
[spoiler]like it should have been decades ago[/spoiler]
>>30330541
I'd faust her real good!
>>30335726
>implying anything has changed
>>30335836
It already passed but nothing will happen unless there is an actual threat of women having to be drafted, then they will protest it
>>30331485
Because disgusting fatasses like to go out in public, right?
Putting women in the military means you can have the homefront garrisoned with the women and thus more men to charge machine-gun encampments.
win-win.
does anyone know the height limits for women to join the Canadian army?
minimum/maximum height for women and men?
>>30335995
Actually, they do.
You fail to realize that women lack the capacity to feel shame.
>>30333711
>be Norwegian
>go to war
>enemy captures your unit
>they talk about how much they laughed at the chubby cheeks and baby-like faces of your women
Fuck intimidating people, right? Military personnel should make non-military people uncomfortable and mildly terrified.
>>30331722
/ Thread
Go home guys this one's done.
>>30334244
Did a 9-year-old write this shit?
A dude can fuck as many women as he can get to. Given enough time, a single man could impregnate 10'000 women.
>>30336189
Shame, yes.
Remorse, regret, or contrition? No.
