QTDDTOT - episode 2
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"why did nobody answer my question?" edition
so, as a member of a country who is a part of the "visa waiver program", I´m allowed to buy a gun in the US?
I´m reffering to this text from the ATF
> https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/does-prohibition-receipt-and-possession-firearms-and-ammunition-aliens-nonimmigrant-visa
my second question is, if I´m a nonimmigrant alien (student) with a nonimmi-visa (student visa "type F") my only chance to own a firearm is by applying for a hunting license
BUT
if I´m from a country taking part in the VWP (see above) there is a special rule which I do not understand
here is the text I´m reffering to
> https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/can-nonimmigrant-alien-obtain-waiver-prohibition-shipping-transporting-receiving-or
> "Yes. An individual may apply to ATF for a waiver. [18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B) and 922(y)(3); 27 CFR 478.11 and 478.32]"
I´m a bit confused now
from my understanding
> go to visit the US for 90 days
> VWP country
> go inna gunshop
> buy fun
> go study abroad in the US
> get hunting license
> go buy funs
> go study abroad in the US
> come from VWP country
> apply for waiver
> go inna funshop and buy stuff
pls help
Bumping with question for anyone who's ever gone through spoopy CIA field training or whatever its called. I've heard they teach you how to pass as either sex, what tips do you have for being more masculine/feminine?
How many AR mags should I have?
I wanna be prepared in case shtf
I have 3 atm and thinking 10 would be a good round number
>>30300348
I have 20 30's and I feel that's enough.
Somewhat of a newfriend here, is the extra b8 and shitposting normal for this board whenever a controversial mass shooting happens?
>>30300138
Are you joking or do you actually believe that shit
>>30300379
Oh yeah.
>>30300379
yes
often people from /pol/ come over here too when a mass shooting happened
>>30300138
Hey, I've got a bridge to sell you
Why don't you just call a lawyer and ask them. I know of like 3 of them locally that do FFL transfers on the side and answer questions like this for free. if you look around i'm sure you can find one.
>>30300085
http://www.durbin.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/durbin-bill-would-close-gun-loophole-in-visa-waiver-program
https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/firearms.pdf
>>30300348
i try to have 10 per gun
>>30300379
yeah
>>30300138
Not to pass as. Asserting your presence physically to intimidate. Using specific language to coerce people. It's basic social engineering shit. Reference: none i just made that shit up
Does anyone make repros of the hk claw mount with 30mm rings built on? There is no way I am spending 500+ on pic related.
https://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/HK-Claw-Mount-with-30mm-Scope-Rings-118p2473.htm
>>30300085
Anyone here do modeling? Like tanks and planes? I've wanting to get into that and wanted to know of any good starter airbrush kits, I wanted to ask on /toy/ but they were arguing about scale, joints and sculpts and I didn't want to get involved
>>30300488
thank you, but I can´t open the first link
access denied
the second link sounds interesting
> "Foreign nationals who do not fall under these two restrictions (such as many foreign travelers visiting the United States under the terms of the
Visa Waiver Program) are not prohibited from acquiring a firearm solely on account of their immigration status."
> "Nonetheless, other provisions in the
GCA, such as residency requirements that must be satisfied for a firearms sale to be lawful, may impede some foreign
nationals from acquiring firearms."
> may impede
sounds like a gray area to me
>>30300576
>WASHINGTON—Assistant Senate Democratic Leader Dick Durbin (D-IL) today introduced legislation to close a loophole in federal law that permits foreign nationals who have entered the United States through the Visa Waiver Program to buy and wield firearms. Current law prohibits visa holders from other countries from purchasing guns, but excludes travelers from the 38 Visa Waiver Program countries.
>For years, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives interpreted this provision to prohibit the sale of firearms to all foreign visitors, not just those visitors who required a visa to be admitted to the United States. In other words, the provision was construed to apply both to visaholders and to foreigners who visited the United States through the Visa Waiver Program. However, the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel reconsidered this interpretation in 2011 and determined that under the statute foreign nationals entering the country through the Visa Waiver Program could legally purchase firearms because they had not technically “been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa.”
i don't think he got anywhere with his bill.
If all goes well the next three weeks I will be leaving Illinois and moving to KY.
Is there anything I need to do while I establish residency? Are thee any laws or regulations about how I have to store my weapons in a home? Is there a limit on the amount of ammunition or reloading supplies I can store in a home?
I mean do I just load it all up here in the peoples socialist publlic and unload it at the new place...can it be that simple?
Can someone tl;dr the last week for me?
I just got back into cell range after huntig for the last two weeks and a friend texted me saying the dems were fillibustering for gun control last night and that none of the stores nearby had ammo or guns aymore.
The fuck'd I miss?
>>30300085
Should I (panic) buy an AR15? And if so what brand should I buy or stay away from?
>>30300765
closeted gay muslim went on a rampage at a gay bar, 49 dead 50+ wounded, people are deciding whether or not to gun panic. panic is winning.
>>30300760
moving companies will be twitch about transporting your guns and ammo, but you won't need to register shit in your new home.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Kentucky
if you are moving it yourself follow the provisions of FOPA
>>30300833
then go to arfcom with your questions hondo
>>30300804
Well... fuck.
I'm out. Gonna drive in shower reload on ammo and food and just go back out and keep hunting and hope it blows over while i'm gone.
>>30300789
even the budget brands aren't that bad as far as AR15s go.
Been seeing a lot of stuff about bubbling paint on Arsenal AKs. Does this really happen with normal use or is it just when you throw hundreds of rounds through it in a short amount of time?
>>30300836
Thanks for your response
I can handle transportation of guns and ammo and guns and ammo related accessories.
I was concerned about having them in the new home while we established residency. There will be a one or two week window where we aren't residents yet have a nice collection of weapons and ammo. My almost paranoid concern comes from being a resident of Illionois so long. You can understand that.
What is considered intent when dealing with NFA items? plan on picking up a scorpion evo to sbr before 41f. The place i will probably order from also sells the sbr kits so i figured i would pick it up to save a bit on shipping. Does it really matter if I have both as long as i never put the stock on it since my intent is to legally sbr it.
>>30300085
Man just contact the ATF, seems like all you'll have to do is apply for the waiver or get a hunting license though.
How hard is it to print out their form and 1st class mail it to them? I mean dang brah.
>>30300880
I've seen it happen with normal range use...
from what everyone else was talking about, though, it was the rust underneath that was the biggest concern. That has nothing to do with overuse and everything to do with shoddy manufacturing processes
>>30300576
>Residency
Got bills with your address?
Have a domicile?(apartment/home/living space)
Are you going to be in a certain place for a while?(living in the us while going to school)
Have a drivers license for the state you're in?
Congrats you're a resident! Apply for your Guns waiver faggot.
>>30300675
sounds good to me
>>30300900
Do you have a dog, /k/omrade?
https://blog.princelaw.com/2009/9/1/florida-man-arrested-for-constructive-possession-of-an-sbr/
>>30300900
People have been arrested for less. I don't know if there have been convictions but the ATF tends to treat it as "constructive possession" and I'm not sure you want the legal headache. Sort of like having one of those totally-not-a-suppressor-wink-wink-nudge-nudge "solvent trap adapters" to attach a car's oil filter to the barrel of a rifle or pistol.
>>30301033
seems as long as I don't go around trying to sell the gun plus stock to an undercover cop, I should be fine.
>>30300138
I thought they were going to make a board for all the trap stuff?
>>30301133
checkeddddddddd
Can someone help me date my H&R topper?
>>30300348
Just wait for them to go one sale, and buy in bulk.
>>30301118
As with most paperwork offenses, a great many people get away with worse every day; many of whom were unaware they were breaking the law. But do you want to take the chance on being the guy getting fucked?
>>30300085
I'm also curious about this since my gf is here on a student visa from a country that is not part of the visa waiver program, and she's under 21. It's legal in my state to keep loaded firearms in the cab of your vehicle even if you don't have a CCW, so I'm assuming I could legally just "gift" her some dindu repellent to keep in her residence and car.
>>30301118
or get caught selling drugs, or bouncing a check, or murdering someone, or posting non-pc stuff on the interwebs, or defaulting on your student loan, or get mistakenly raided, or... or... or...
You'll be fine anon. Just make sure that you keep posting about it online. Maybe a couple instagram/facebook/etc pics too.
>>30301147
Bring it flowers and
>>30301147
She's sexy, yeah I'll take her out on a date. Where you live, anon?
>>30300085
>visa waiver program
>you have to go back
>>30300852
Solid plan. Also, the Democrats are currently filibustering...nothing, which is odd to say the least. Normally a party filibusters when they want to avoid passing a bill that the majority will approve, but right now there isn't a gun-control related bill. I don't know what to say except good hunting, and keep some ammo handy in case it goes up in value or you need it.
>>30301257
>>30301239
Kek, but really, does anyone know the serial number date codes
>>30300085
What state are you living in OP?
>>30301258
how long until an illigal alien becomes a legal one?
4years?
>>30301401
none
I´m from europe
its cumming along
So I have a neato Daewoo DR200, and really would like to get rid of the cuck stock. What parts do I need to do that? From my understanding I would need the stock adapter, the mechanism, and the stock itself correct?
>>30301225
I would check state laws first. It may be your truck and it may be your rifle/shotgun/pistol but it is under the care and control of someone else. You may be violating some sort of safe storage law.
>>30301298
the guy that wrote the book on them died.
>>30301984
looks very professional, was saddened to see that one sold for .99 shipped on ebay not too long ago.
>>30302024
I think Stormwerkz makes parts for it.
>>30300085
Lowest prices on AKs?
Are VZ-2008s back in stock yet, or will they never be?
>>30302320
$500 for an amd from classic
>>30302305
jajaja thanks I have no clue what im doing but im an autist.
I coudnt of bought it from ebay anyways since they wont ship to canada
do you need one ? Ill send you the file one i get the fit right
>>30300085
during this anti-gun cuck shitstorm is it more advantageous to get an
>AR
affordable and parts/ammo is everywhere
>AK
affordable and parts arent hard to find but an ammo ban could cuck 90% of all ammo
>or Battle rifle?
expensive, but ammo is available everywhere and will most likely not be affected by banning of ammo types (sports academy has said they will be limiting how much ammo you buy for ARs/AKs and youll have to do a back ground check plus have your information stored in their database from now on)
this may be my only semi auto rifle ever, which is the better option?
>>30302458
Just buy two or three stripped lowers and be good for life.
>>30302458
Get an AK, don't be a trashy cunt.
>>30302560
Yeah until they ban all AR parts from sale.
>they ban the gun
>thinking they won't ban the parts as well
Are ak pistols legal in Commiefornia? Also do they need a bullet button if they are?
>>30302908
I thought pistols had to be specifically approved in Cali? Or did they get rid of that with the stupid micro imprinting? Cali is so fucked with the 11 gunpocalypse laws anyways.
>>30303105
They have to be specifically approved to be sold by an FFL. Non-list guns can be bought and sold by private parties all fucking day.
So you can't order a pre-built AK or AR pistol in the mail, but I don't see how they could call you on it if you used an AR lower to build a pistol.
M48 or SKS for my next Yugo milsurp?
>>30303202
M48's are really great if you can handle the ammo costs.
>>30303237
Wikiarms has some decently cheap stuff. Looks like I'm getting a Mauser.
>>30303105
>>30303150
Yeah their laws are fucked is why I'm not sure. I'm planning on moving there, but this is my only gun that I'm not sure of its legality there.
>>30302353
nah i'm good, i just hack the shit i need out of scrap metal with a rusty file, i'm just the guy who identified your gun as a 60. as you may have guessed.
>>30302458
stripped ar lower and a pile of mags
Do mall cops and other security get to watch on camera people doing shit all day? Can they watch movies and browse /k/? Do they make decent coin?
>tfw want to sit on my ass on 4chan all day and carry a gun to work
>tfw don't actually want a dangerous job
>tfw no idea how people get security and mall cop jobs
I got a three in one:
a) Is pic related a good first rifle for a poorfag college student?
b) would it be comfortable to shoot for a southpaw?
c) How long would it last, if maintained well?
>>30305137
Don't get that
The receivers explode
Get a M&P sport 2 or a PSA upper/lower
Both higher quality with more aftermarket
>>30305129
It depends on the job really. Most mall cops and a lot of other security are unarmed, but I'd imagine most of the armed ones you're actually doing shit all the time. Also most security pays shit for the most part.
I work security for AM General (company that makes Humvees) and literally do just sit on my ass browsing 4chan and watching movies all day, although I am unarmed and only make $9.60/h.
Unless you can talk to somebody that works at the place, it's hard to tell what the work is really like ahead of time.
Where is the best place to wear a bayonet/knife?
Are magpul ranger plates worth it, or is rigging paracord and tape viable?
>>30300085
What sight Should i get for my 300 blk AR pistol im building?
Budget is 150$
Are gun laws really so dumb that people can just cross borders, buy stuff legally, then transport it to somewhere where it is illegal?
I mean what stops criminals from just going from Jew York to Texas, buying full auto drum mag AKs and then driving back to Jew York?
>>30306418
Not having a valid state ID Would prevent you from buying a firearm across state lines from a gun store but for the most part your right
>>30306499
Other than the actual firearms which would need a state ID, don't the uncucked US states sell like silencers, drum mags, scopes, grips, attatchments, modifications, body armor and ammunition without any kind of verification?
>>30306565
I'm all for the second amendment but it seems like gangs and drug dealers have a retardedly easy black market to open up. Not sure how I feel about this...
>>30306565
Silencers/suppressors are NFA and pretty regulated.
The rest of it is just stuff. Are we acting afraid of grips and magazines now?
>>30306674
Really it's a mark of how shitty the laws are in the first place.
Trying to buy some ammo from CTD, but pic related is bugging me. I'm 19 atm, but I live in florida so I'm legally able to buy a long gun and ammunition. Am I gonna get in legal trouble if I go through with this purchase or is this some dumb policy that doesn't get enforced?
Any old timers in here? I've always wondered if "assault rifle" was a dirty term before the Clinton AWB, or if it used to be considered a positive selling point. Did we do this to ourselves?
There are a couple acquaintances I know that try a little too hard to be manly men and one of those ways is always talking about guns and their time at the range. One of them even has taken out and showed his concealed carry pistol around the room on multiple occasions. I spoke to him about 3D printers and how one day we might be able to print rifle uppers and he didn't know what I meant by that.
How likely is it that a person who claims to know a lot about guns doesn't know what an "upper" is? Did I misuse the term?
>>30309915
Pretty likely, surprisingly most people just tend to know enough about the guns they're interested in and shit all about anything else firearms related.
>>30309929
he can easily be a gun guy but not know much about lower/upper salt guns
>>30309198
Just order the ammo you pussy
how does /k/ feel about bullpup?
>>30309198
they don't send it signature required
>>30310317
inb4 meme
most are alright, service rifle accuracy, shit triggers, mixed ergos, excellent recoil impulse and overall balance.
They're kinda polarizing some people love them others hate them.
>>30310366
As in they don't ask you to sign once it's delivered?
>>30310592
They will literally never know. You're an adult, you can legally buy the ammo, fuck whatever company policy they try to say requires you to be 21. You're not breaking any laws by checking 'yes'.
>>30310592
Order from SG ammo ctd are cheap kikes
also freedom munitions
both wont req a sig afiak
>>30301147
1942???
PC on yugo sks m59 and in nm- condition. I would say it's nib but it has a little handling wear.
Best .22lr pistol to teach my girlfriend how to shoot handfuns? She's too scared of my 9mm to start on it for some reason. Want something really cheap and easy to find, preferably new.
Also, is this retarded? I like crossdraw because it's comfortable in the car, but it really seems like there's a lot of hate for it. (Pic is in mirror, btw)
>>30310643
>SGammo
>$30 shipping bumps your cost per round up a lot
>They ship it in a thin box and you know UPS is tossing that thing around like a drunk college slut
Seriously if I'm paying so much for shipping I expect less damages related to shipping. Ive had boxes ripped open with ammo coming out, missing up to 20-30 rounds, damaged ammo, etc. They just can't be fucked to add some packaging materials can they?
Where can I buy this screw? I lost the original and don't want to buy another safety for it.
>>30310592
right, last time i bought a can of .380 ammo from them ups left it on my doorstep.
>>30311057
$300-$400
>>30311169
if it's an rra
>The set screw for the ambi safety (standard or star) is 6-40x.125".
>>30300085
copy paste from another thread I posted this in, pretty sure it won't get answered there so I'm hoping it does here.
Sorry to butt in OP, but I've got a question similar.
I'm in a bit of a conundrum myself at the moment /k/omrades, I'm current having a hard time deciding if I should get my CCP / CCW, or should I save up for a few more months and get an AR first? I was considering getting an AK but after reading the replies in this thread I think I will go with the AR. I currently only own a nugget and Mossberg.
>What do I get first, CC or AR?
>>30312033
you may want to get a stripped lower and some mags right this second. probably nothing will happen, but this may be your last chance.
Is it legal to own these as a civilian?
>>30312071
they're legal, just be careful they tend to cause structure fires
I'm going to be getting a pretty big chunk of cash soon, /k/omrades. I want to buy something full retard or convert something I already have into full retard. How do?
>>30312055
Note taken. Any recommendations? I'm totally new to the whole build your AR thing... Mag recommendations would be nice as well.
>>30301147
No earlier than 1992. H&R ceased in 1986 but restarted in Gardner, Mass in 1992.
Looks like my childhood .410, which I received as a birthday present in 1996. So I'd say yours is probably from the same time period, so 20-25 years max.
Good little guns.
>>30302335
AMD's are pretty decent for what they are
>>30302320
Pretty much missed the train, but I think most people are hoarding them right now for a future scare.
Only have seen one recently, and that was at a pawn shop and they wanted $550.
>>30305699
This. I've done unarmed security before at night (manufacturing facilities) and I was paid exactly $9/hr but did jack shit.
>see name badges as people come through the gate (this is most of your action)
>walk a pre-defined area once an hour
>"on-call" to escort people out, but I worked third shift and it only happened twice when people failed drug tests and were let go right after they came in.
Not a horrible job.
Theoretically a sheriff could deputize whoever they want right? And law enforcement can purchase full auto right? Can't we get a /k/ommando sheriff to deputize a shit load of people and get us wonderful citizen full retard?
>>30300085
Currently in an argument with a friend regarding BREN gun sights.
He thinks because they're mounted to the left of the magazine that it would make it inaccurate, he thinks that the sights aren't perpendicular to the barrel, they're at an angle which is set to converge at range.
I think that they're like normal sights, just shifted a few fractions of an inch to the left.
Wondered if anyone could clear it up.
(shit picture included).
>>30312294
Google bren gun sight picture, you're right.
>>30300085
considering joining canadian forces, hoping for armoured soldier, anything i can expect?
>>30312294
>>30311992
Thanks I thought 650 seemed high.
>>30312338
>>30312449
That's honestly what I thought, I'm not great at arguing a point, even if I know I'm right, he had me doubting myself, cheers for the help.
I'm going out tomorrow to buy my first handgun, with CWP in mind.
I've fired plenty, and I love the shield. My only problem is I don't know if I should go with 9mm or .45
I've fired both, and I'm a bigger guy so I don't have trouble with recoil. I was slightly more accurate with the 9mm, but I've shot more 9mms than .45s, and I am planning on shooting my Shield at least once a week for a few months to get as skilled as I can (then probably go at least once a month).
So, any Shield owners here wanna give my any advice? Which way should I go?
Anybody here assemble their own Garand?
Good source of quality parts? Tips and tricks?
>>30313102
I bought my gf a shield in 9. The ammo is way way cheaper than .45.
Should I buy this?
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/564420646
Do guns appreciate or depreciate in value after being discontinued?
Tried selling my CZ and somebody told me they were discontinued and lowballed me.
Not sure If I want to get rid of it they they have stopped making them.
>>30313312
They appreciate. The person who lowballed you is either stupid or slimy Jew
did I make a good choice?
Century RAS-41
>>30313312
they appreciate unless it was discontinued for being a piece of shit. even if it was a pos some people will want em for novelty value. the only guns that immediately depreciate are budget models, pumpshotguns, and anything modded
>>30313312
Depends on the gun, really. But a CZ will definitely appreciate.
>>30313377
People keep asking this and I don't know how many times we're supposed to say "NO"
>>30313312
>Do guns appreciate or depreciate in value after being discontinued?
It depends upon the gun and how old it is. Generally things (cars, for instance) will depreciate short to mid term after being discontinued, and then later appreciate as they become more valuable to collectors that care less about parts availability and things of that nature.
Things that are just inherently shitty will hold their value, but something that's well made, functional, and kept in good condition will always have value to someone regardless of whether it's outmoded by newer models or whatever.
Things that are all of the above, while being produced in small numbers, are true collector items.
>Tried selling my CZ and somebody told me they were discontinued and lowballed me.
He's just a nigger trying to sucker you into giving him a deal. CZ 75B (I'm assuming) isn't discontinued, and even if it were, they have a huge aftermarket supply so it isn't like you're selling a gun that has no parts available.
>>30313438
>Things that are just inherently shitty will hold their value
I mean won't
>>30313438
They specifically discontinued the Omega model, which was just the 75b with a stronger, more easily removed trigger.
Some things I see as positives, and they replaced it with an ugly ass 75bd "Omega" convertible that looks like shit.
Personally I think there will be people that want the Omega over this new gay ass Omega and I would think it may appreciate in value but seeing as how they don't make them maybe I should just hang on to it.
>>30311992
>an rra
It's cmmg
Do they make AR15s in .45ACP?
>>30313971
http://bazookabrothers.com/pages/home/1
>>30312189
lowers are pretty much the same.
http://www.kygunco.com/Product/View?ItemNo=19237
http://palmettostatearmory.com/d-h-5-56-30rd-aluminum-magazine-8416.html
https://www.magcommander.com/products/copy-of-magpul-gen-m3-30-round-pmag-223-5-56-ar-15-magazine-with-window-and-dust-cover
rather annoyed i'm not at home and can't panic buy myself.
>>30313287
that'd go for $150 tops at a physical auction.
>>30313913
email them and ask what size the screw is
What's the chronological order for NFA items?
Some videos I've seen say you need to have the item already for it's serial number...but if you already have the item then what's the form and payment for? Maybe that video was about trusts and not buying NFA stuff.
Or is it the more logical you have to do the forms and payment, then you can buy the NFA stuff?
I'm curious to know which two handguns were used to kill Christina Grimmie. Anybody have any answer to that?
http://crimeresearch.org/2016/06/christina-grimmie-killed-in-gun-free-zone/
>>30314449
>that'd go for $150 tops at a physical auction.
It's one of the cheapest flintlock long guns I can find online, are physical auctions worth it?
Hey komrades,
I'm a long time lurker and a first time poster. I know that the general opinion on this board is that the Yugo SKS is a well crafted weapon. I have the opportunity to purchase a non-rearsenal M59/66 version from top gun supply http://www.topgunsupply.com/yugoslavian-sks-rifle-7.62x39mm-grade-a.html
My question to you all is, is this something that I should not pass up on? I've never owned a rifle before, but I do own a shotgun. Would this be a good first rifle to practice and learn shooting skills? Any advice, help, or personal experiences with this rifle, or even from shopping experiences with top gun supply would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you all!
I have an extremely hard time cycling the bolt on my mosin after firing. (Primarily just resetting the firing pin back in place) any fixes?
>>30316127
Spend some money on something that isn't a slavtrash cheap-as-dirt memegun.
Seriously though, what do you expect from something 70+ years old that you MAYBE spent 150 bucks on?
>>30315432
i've found them to have incredibly good deals on blackpowder guns, both repros and originals. but flintlocks command a bit more and the last gun auction i went to a week or two ago the prices were creeping up. i'd say if you can find one within an hours drive that listed the type of thing you were interested in it'd definitely be worth checking out
http://www.auctionzip.com/
>>30315748
that seems a little high, but if you were looking for one this second it's not terrible. those are good guns for your purpose, i have an sks-m i'm awfully fond of.
>>30316127
clean the bejesus out of it, the cosmoline turns to laquer over time and is tough to remove completely.
>>30316555
I thought that it was a little pricy as well. I had just assumed that because it had not been reissued it would have retained its value. Am I better off saving my money for a new rifle instead? Am I better off waiting for a cheaper SKS to come up? I know that I would like to own one at some point, and I don't feel as though they will all disappear, but I thought this particular rifle would be unique, and will the prices drop at any point?
I just got a huge pay raise, and have decided to buy my first gun.
Any recommendations?
>I live in Commiefornia
>I'm new to guns and want something inexpensive to shoot so I can get a good amount of range time to practice
>I don't plan on buying a 2nd gun anytime soon (family is very noguns and I want to gradually ease them into it) so I'd like something with utility off the range (self defense is most important right now, followed by hunting small game)
>I have a weird fetish for reliability and durability. While I will love and cherish and protect my gun, I want something that I can depend on to go through hundreds or thousands of rounds in wet, cold, dirty, muddy, dusty conditions. To me this is well worth sacrificing some accuracy.
>I'd like some sort of semi-auto before the bans come, but I could be persuaded otherwise.
>Budget is in the $500 ballpark, although I could go up to $750 depending on the item.
You've never steered me wrong before /k/. What should I get?
>>30317930
Forgot to mention, something unintimidating is a plus. I'd like to take my girlfriend and brother to the range with me sometime, and anything liberals consider scary would give them pause. I want my first gun to be a friendly gun.
Doesn't have to be .22lr though.
>>30300085
Christ that Mach 10 looks like a fucking toy. Also what's wrong with his elbow Jesus.
>>30318042
>Mach 10
>Mach
this is a tec-9 or kg 9 sir
>>30300085
A 308 bolt gun, an AK in 7.62x39, a remington 870, and a glock 19
is there any reason to have any more than these 4 guns for almost all my needs?
There was a job listing on craigslist for a security for a gas station around here and I thought about applying, but in a shitty retard way. Stuff like how I am a professional kebab remover and know how to swear in Russian. I'd also have to wear a retarded uniform but I am going to add in that I will only wear the uniform of glorious Rhodesia, Serbia, or mother Russia.
The posting is eight days old and I probably won't get the job anyway, so I am thinking I might as well have some fun. It's also for third shift so I am pretty sure I will be gutted by a nigger.
>turning 21 soon
>want to buy a handfun
>look up state laws on guns
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Washington
So it looks like I could just walk into a gun store, find a gun I like, buy it, then walk out within a few minutes? And be able to get a concealed carry permit just as easily?
I have a question. I have a Bushnell et6245f scope for my ar. I went to zero it in at 100 yards and it looks to be that the factory zero is like 5 mils to the left and 5 mils down. Is that normal?
Why do so many people use 9mm for self defense? Seems like it'd be like bringing a knife to a sword-fight. People can walk off those rounds, or stay alive for long enough to kill you. It'd be like poking a bear.
>>30319467
I'm no gun expert, but I'm assuming the military and police know what they're doing, and they all use 9mm. 9mm also allows hand guns to be pretty small while retaining a relatively large magazine.
For personal defense you can use whatever the fuck you feel comfortable using though. If you want to cc a .50 caliber revolver you're free to do so, I'm assuming.
>>30319490
Police magdumps. As for military the pistol is just a sidearm. Don't know why they chose 9mm.
>>30314511
For a suppressor you have to buy it from a dealer and then submit the Form 4. You won't be able to take possession until the stamp is approves and arrives.
For Form 1, take an sbr AR for example: Building it yourself, you will need a serialized lower to submit the form. You can build a pistol out of the parts until your stamp arrives, but be careful having that short barrel and other stripped lowers and/or stocks laying around.
>>30319501
>Don't know why they chose 9mm
Because muh nato
>>30319618
Is .45 any better though? Both seems small and you lose quite a bit of capacity going bigger.
Will a vortex SPARC II hold up on a ptr or similar 308, my plan is to use one with a magnifier but I'm unsure if it will hold up under 308 recoil
>>30319635
I don't know
https://www.google.com/search?q=9mm+vs+45
Ok, so not directly weapons relevant, but /k/ does have a decent proportion of 'older male' browsers moreso than most other boards.
Are there any hair growth/hair loss prevention products that you guys could personally recommend? Rogaine, Lipogaine things like that?
Or are those hair transplantation things worth seriously considering?
>>30319670
Is there really no consensus here?
>>30319684
It's mostly a toss up on what you prefer/have access to
Would I be able to send a gun piece by piece to the no guns country that ill be moving to in 2 years? I have family on the other end that I can trust.
What does census 2000 have to do with k? I'll explain why I ask if you can get me an answer
>>30300085
I have the choice of getting a hex receiver mosin with a bayonet and stripper clip pouches for $350 or get a Century Arms AK for $849. what do /k/
Does having depression make it illegal for me to own firearms?
>>30320727
No. Just if you have been declared mentally deficient or institutionalized without your consent.
Just don't kill yourself with it.
>>30316745
you'll bump into yugo skses for under $300 if you go to gun auctions regularly, for the next five or ten years so long as nothing changes radically on the legislative front. but a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, and if you don't have any other semi autos i wouldn't wait around to find a perfect deal.
and that really is about going rate online these days
http://www.southernohiogun.com/longguns/sks-rifles/sks-rifles-7-62x39-cal.html
I started my own thread but I guess I should have posted in here first: What kind of Radio should I get? The one in pic related looks pretty good, are there other/better radios you can get ahold of for a similar price?
Also are there any books/websites where I can learn about radios and their general use?
the rear grip on the l86. is it meant to be used in the same way as the grip on the boys at rifle?
So it turns out my Daewoo bcg is fucked. It looks like shit and it can't even fire. Pic related. Is there anyway at all to fix this? Aside from just replacing it
>>30317930
sks or a mossberg500/remington870
less intimidating would put you in the .22/ pistol caliber carbine area.
>>30318443
seems like you'd be generating evidence against yourself for the lulz, no shame in you applying straight and them saying no, it's just how it goes sometimes. don't be too nervous about it.
>>30318930
no waiting period, if your nics check is smooth it should be pretty quick.
http://www.dol.wa.gov/business/firearms/faconcealreq.html
>>30319684
none
>>30320075
not legally, but people do ship a lot of bike parts.
>>30320680
get an amd ak for $500
>>30300085
if m16 bullets spin around and explode how come they aren't banned by the geneva convention?
>>30322584
you the K2 for $1000 guy?
Whats wrong with it?
>>30322265
When in the prone position, you don't need to have your left hand supporting the handguard since you can deploy the bipod legs, so you can use the left hand on the rearward grip to assist with aiming and support while on automatic.
Additionally, you can change magazines without much disturbance to your position since you're already supported by the bipod and shoulder support.
>>30322680
yeah thats what i thought. its a good idea. thanks anon
>>30322584
What's wrong with it, exactly?
Can you disassemble it any further than that?
>>30300085
Got several cleaning related questions for everybody here:
What does a brownish patch or 2, then all regular black patches down a stainless steel barrel mean after a several month storage wait mean? Actually, the brownish patches showed up before I stored it, and they still show up now, except that it's now followed by black patches after the first two.
Talking about a Del-Ton DT Sport 5.56 which has a stainless steel barrel.
I am comparing it to a brand new Colt LE6920 which has a chrome-lined barrel, and when I run the patches through, I only get black patches from it. Ran 100 patches through the damn thing and there's still small streaks of dark stuff coming through.
And that brings me to the second question:
Why is it that a brand new Colt gets 100 Hoppes patches run through its barrel and you still get those slight black streaks on it? It's like it won't disappear.
I'm getting really discouraged about gun ownership in that I can't seem to properly maintain my guns. I've watched Youtube vids countless times, and they all say you stop when the damn patches come out completely white. That has never happened in the 3 years I've owned and cleaned guns.
Used Slip 2000 EWL for both barrels. Only have used Slip 2000 EWL throughout my entire gun ownership life.
>>30320075
They'll probably notice it during screening.
>>30322669
It won't fire at all, it used to light strike but I replaced the firing pin, it still light strikes and with this pitting I'm in the verge of buying a new bolt
New to guns, should I be shooting with both eyes open or close one with a rifle/shotgun?
I haven't had the chance to go shooting yet, but I find I can't get a clear image of whatever I happen to be trying to see with both eyes open
Are M1As banned in CT?
>>30322791
you know you have to use a brass bore brush first, before you go and use patches, right?
>>30323151
not that guy but do you mean just running the bare brush up and down the barrel before using bore cleaner? I've never tried that
>>30322765
I can. It light strikes and won't even fire, brass won't even eject when I rack the charging handle.
>>30322923
Both eyes open is generally only useful if you have a magnified sight, as it overlays the reticle onto the target, preserving depth perception while marking target zone
>>30323151
>you know you have to use a brass bore brush first, before you go and use patches, right?
I've used the brass bore brush before.
My method goes like this:
Brass brush
Brass brush with Slip2k covered hoppes patch
Then patches galore from hoppes
I have not seen my Del-Ton, or even the Colt, get a clean pure white clean patch come out of it. Even after 100+ pass throughs.
>>30302320
Ive seen Vz 2008s for $600-$700 on Atlantic Firearms
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/cai-czech-vz58-7-62x39mm-rife-detail.html?Itemid=0
past $550 I wouldn't get a Vz 2008
>>30322791
The first two brownish patches were probably the Slip2000 EWL being very old. Not sure why there's black patches then after that if you cleaned it before the storage wait.
>>30322765
Never mind I'm a fucking dumbass what's can't out rifles together. I wasn't reassembling it correctly and the so piston wasn't even seated into the bcg like it should. Hammer wasn't even hitting the pin. Works fine now. I'm so stupid
>>30300085
You're in fucking America. We're basically on the same level as countries like the Ukraine or South Africa but have enough money to keep things polished clean.
Just go buy a gun from a buddy's ex's cousin's car like a normal person.
>>30323675
What kind of ammo do you typically use? Both have stainless barrels?
>>30323735
I swear they just had the VZs quite a bit cheaper for their Summer sale, but I could be wrong.
Is there a chart or diagram separating good ARs form bad ARs? like shit tier, good tier, mil-spec tier, better than mil-spec tier.
>>30324327
The Colt hasn't had anything since it's new. It's chrome-lined.
The Del-Ton has been rarely used since it's like a truck gun (except at the house) and I normally work with a .308 bolt gun instead. DT Sport is stainless steel. It only uses Federal American Eagle XM193, but less than a 100 just to make sure it works.
What are the things that a gun owner should think about when buying a gun?
For now, for every gun I think I'll buy, I think about (in order of importance to me):
ammo cost
magazines/magazine cost
snap caps
carry bag
gun sock
cleaning tools specific to the gun
sling, if applicable
holster, if applicable
spare parts
Anything else to worry about before a purchase?
![1466299593863[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JJOT9Mf.jpg "1466299593863[1].jpg")
If this is being sold on gunbroker by a long-time seller with +500 rep, no mention of the NFA, there's no trouble, right?
>>30324536
Wouldn't they have that in the AR general?
>>30322791
The brown thing is probably old oil from your previous cleanup if what comes after is nothing but dark streaks.
>>30300348
10 per primary gun is a pretty good number.
If the 30 full cycles holds, then a new mag can last for 900 rounds (total of 9000 rounds) before it starts not being optimal.
If not a primary gun, I think anything from 3 to 5 is acceptable.
What is the thing in the middle?
>>30328484
Prehistoric assault weapon
>>30328484
Why does the Grease Gun have an erection? Is this a dewatt collection?
>>30328484
A whoop ass club
>>30328484
Panzerfaust
Would a k98 repro from IMA or Atlanta cutlery fit on a Gew98?
>>30312115
I hope he doesnt have any dogs.
How can I remove the finish from my old beat up hi power? I want to refinish it, or maybe cerakote it.
>>30328484
The 1911 just fired, and that's the shockwave and projectile of the .45.
>>30300085
Will a suppressor made for .308 work as well for smaller calibers (5.56 specifically) as suppressors designed for those smaller rounds?
I ask because I'm thinking of getting a suppressor for my AR, but want to be able to move it between a 5.56 as well as a .308.
>>30300085
How important is it to oil the outside of the AR-15 barrel covered by the handguards?
>>30328200
Magazines can only cycle 30 times?
From a political standpoint, is it appropriate to listen to System of a Down?
I really like their sound, but the band tends to hold leftist viewpoints.
>>30329521
I have magazines that have done hundreds of cycles. This guy is an idiot.
>>30329514
if its bone dry and in shit conditions the outside of the barrel could rust that said its not that important.youd have to ignore it for months for real damage.
Does anyone have the image of the /k/ approved compact handguns?
>>30329190
I have a .30 cal suppressor. I bought an adaptor to see, it does suppress the noise, but not as much as a smaller caliber adapter. I've only done this like once though.
>>30300085
I'm Canadian, how would I go about buying weapons in the USA? Or do you still need some kind of green card or something?
>>30328627
>>30330379
you find someone near the border who accepts svts as currency
>>30329868
How about ignore it for months but have the gun inside a gun sock?
>>30330379
>https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/nonimmigrant-aliens
If you have your green card, or proof of residence and are not visiting or working on a non-alien visa
OR
have some kind of us hunting licence
If you wanted to bring firearms bought into the US to Canada on a permanent basis and they are Restricted class you need to have an importer do it for you. (Irunguns, aztech armory and prophet river offer this service). If its NR you can file the paperwork yourself.
if you fire your rifle with the stock folded does it become a SBR?
going to get me an AK63D
>>30330932
why is he aiming?
>>30330932
>but it did not perform well
note how they omit their own performance.
Hi friends. My brother is deployed somewhere right now and has requested I buy a rifle for him. He said he didn't want me to build it for him or anything, but would rather I just get one at the local gun show.
He wants a complete AR, with a couple hundred rounds of food.
Should I just find the biggest tent and get ripped off? I'm using his money, but I don't want to pay more than I really should.
I guess I just need some advice on buying from a show. I've only ever built my own setups, never really gone the mainstream route.
Halp
>>30333229
Why doesn't he want you to build one? If he's worried about your ability to put it together properly, I'd just do complete lower + complete upper.
Failing that, look around for complete setups from the usual brands, I guess.
>tfw rewatching Justified
>tfw Boyd Crowder would save himself a lot of trouble if he would just learn how to clear a room and HOLD HIS GODDAMN PISTOL WITH BOTH HANDS
So, any places offering good pistol/carbine training inna Illinois/Indiana/Wisconsin area? Would like a weekend intro course, high round count a plus insofar as it translates to more guided practice. Missed Massad Ayoob's class while he was in town.
>yes mad
Does somebody have a prepper guide for a disease outbreak? Medical gloves, face masks, disinfection, setting up quarantine and stuff like that.
"Containment" got me paranoid, although the series kind of sucked.
>>30332949
no, it's still a rifle
>Sights are secret
>>30334188
i would be interested to see that, my setup is probably lacking in some fashion.
>>30300527
I do. Theres a thread on /toy/ for plastic models and we're more than happy to answer questions there
>>30334589
Did some research myself. So the minimum you should have are face masks, enclosed eye protection, disposable gloves, bleach and antibacterial hand sanitizer, here is a longer list, including disposable overalls, lime (for provisional toilets or fluids in general) and water filters:
http://modernsurvivalblog.com/pandemic/21-things-for-pandemic-survival/
Apparently you can easily set up an isolation room with duct tape and plastic sheets.
Whats the danger of firing other .22 rounds out of a .22 LR rifle? Like short, magnum, etc.. Will it just be difficult to chamber or actually gun-breaking
I'm looking for an either classic or tactical style 1911 in .45ACP in the $600-$800 price range. Are there any decent options for this price range?
Does anyone else get annoyed when Ian posts a photo of a very rare gun and says he's making videos on them, and then never makes the video? He hasn't done the video of the shotguns or the W+F P47 pistol
>>30302024
Why can't you put a normal Daewoo stock on these?
>>30300085
How bad is rust on a smoothbore 12g shotgun's barrel? Surface rust on the outside of the barrel?
Guy want's to straight trade my 91/30 for his K Kale Mauser. Yes or no?
Recently got a 9mm and want to do a lot of practice dry firing it between times I can get out to the range.
What is a decent laser bore sight?
Is $399 a good price for an M&P shield?
>>30336345
Not bad, take some 0000 steel wool to it and oil it
What's a good bipod to buy for an AR 15? Also any recommendations for silencers? Let's say my budget for a silencer is 800 and my budget for a bipod is 200. I may be willing to spend a little more if it seems worth it. Thanks for any advice.
>>30328676
Someone please help :,(
>>30335659
Springfield Range Officer is ~750 and mighty nice. I got to fire one a few days ago and damn, what a trigger.
>tfw will never be happy with glawks now
>>30337716
>What's a good bipod to buy for an AR 15?
I hear good things about this one: https://www.amazon.com/Green-Blob-Outdoors-Black-Tactical/dp/B018J20CJY?ie=UTF8&keywords=atlas%20bipod&qid=1463345894&ref_=sr_1_3&s=hunting-fishing&sr=1-3
>>30300085
What would gallium be like as a blade or pointed weapon? Sharpened enough it'd certainly be enough to actually stab someone with. What happens then?
It's gonna start melting inside of their body if it gets left there for more than a few seconds. As far as I know it isn't toxic, but having literal molten metal running round inside of you can't be healthy.
Anyone have a picture of an AR with the barrel totally encompassed in a free float handguard? They look like they fell out of Aliens.
>>30334876
hmm good to see, i'm rather more prepared than that.
medical oxygen tanks in case i do get infected
(should get some iv fluids at some point)
light decon setup
better protective gear than they list
radio
backup battery power
muffled generator
i'd vastly prefer using an outbuilding to a taped off isolation room.
>>30335540
magnum won't chamber, and .22lr has some issues with magnum chambers, but you can shoot shorts, cb, etc. out of lr chambers. just make sure to clean it well after shooting shorter stuff.
>>30336345
as long as it isn't pitted it shouldn't be a problem
>>30336734
i wouldn't.
>>30337954
yeah it should
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/archive/index.php/t-246682.html
>>30339021
So only Magnum is an issue, thanks, I'm gonna fire abunch of dumb shit out of my gun now
>>30300085
I'm collecting bullet cartridges. This pic is outdated, it's significantly larger now, but I'm looking for a way to grow it.
Is there a faster way to do it than hanging out at the range and looking around for loose cartridges, and a cheaper way than just buying a box of every new kind of ammo I come across?
I made a whole thread about this months ago and I had one anon I was talking to who was gonna send me a few in the mail and he never did.
>>30339180
http://www.ammo-one.com/
http://cartridgecollectors.org/
i usually find some odd lots to bid on at auctions, and find stuff to be way overpriced from antique dealers.
>>30339287
Outstanding, thanks anon.
What's the average value of these 2-hole style WWII pistol belts because this seems a tad high for something that looks like it smells like 20 years unwashed in a trunk.
Anywhere to get better merch?
I'm currently on my way through Montana and want to pick up a gun. I live in another state and am of legal age. Should I have any problem acquiring a handgun? Recommendations?
How do you pronounce POG?
Best cheap fixed blade knife for everything?
Is the glock 81 good
>>30339913
if you buy at a gunstore you shouldn't have any problems unless you live in a shitty state.
>>30340061
maybe a mora?
>>30300893
You don't need to be a resident of a state to possess firearms in that state.
>>30339913
No, sometimes if the gun is illegal in your listed place of residence they will not sell it to you. Also some states have (essentially unenforceable) provisions about buying weapons out of state, so it's up to you.
>>30339457
https://colemans.com/shop/security-tactical/pistol-belt-u-s-g-i-metal-clasp/
http://www.armynavysales.com/search/default.aspx?keyword=belt
http://oldguns.net/catmilpostww2.htm
Is this primer extrusion anything to worry about?
Why do cartridges emit a distinct scent when fired? All of my ammo smells very different from each other, with my Barnaul .223 smelling particular nasty. I thought they all used similar powders.
