>GUNS ARE NOT THE REASON FOR SO MANY MURDERS!!
>LESS GUNS EQUAL LESS DEATHS!!
>HAHA KEK EUROPE
pls
>>30297890
Niggers and suicides. Same thread done a billion times. Get more creative.
>>30297901
i dont need to get creative, this is the truth not a fairy tell what gun owners tell every time when faced by facts
>>30297910
Niggers and suicides aren't fairy tails.
>>30297924
>implying niggers and suicides would make the numbers that big
>implying only usa has criminals and sucides
>being in denial this deep
>>30297890
This only counts gun deaths, not total deaths. If you're going to troll, be less retarded.
>>30297910
>Black crime and suicides are a fairy tale
????????????????????????
>>30297910
We have ~30,000 gun deaths a year. ~19,000 are suicides. ~8,000 are black on black gang violence.
If you are white and not in a gang, the US is no more dangerous than whatever faggy Euroshit country you hail from.
>>30297937
>a simple statistics about firearm related deaths
>HURR DURR ITS ONLY GUN DEATH UR TROLL HUR DUR TYRANT GUBERMENT TAKEWANDOOOO!!!
>>30297936
>being a fucking retard
>>30297924
>>30297910
It's "fairy tale(s)", you fucking illiterates. Go add yourselves to that suicide statistic already, why don't you.
>>30297890
It's completely wrong for Switzerland.
Into the trash it goes!
>>30297947
So you're not going to, I don't know, address that very valid point or...?
>>30297941
>If you are white and not in a gang, the US is no more dangerous than whatever faggy Euroshit country you hail from.
>except if you go to school, movies, walk down the street, make your kid/spouse mad
>>30297951
i dont own guns because im not an insecure manchild, so why dont you suck that barrel already?
>>30297954
>statistics about firearm related death
>HURR DURR IT ONLY SHOW FIREARM RELATED DEATH
you are a fucking retard, oh i mean just an avarge amerifat
>>30297951
No goblin TAILS NO duck TAILS!
Woooooooohoooooo
>>30297890
>Via 9gag
Ok, I have to admit. That's a nice touch.
No h8, I r8 8/8
>gun murder
How is a gun murder different from any other murder aside from the fact a gun was used??
>>30297949
Oh this one is good...all .gov sources and clearly stated without some stormfront watermark or something for people to dismiss it out of hand.
The people who are wrongfully killed by guns are an acceptable price to pay for freedom. No amount of death justifies taking away rights. 9/11 didn't justify the patriot act breaching American's 4th amendment right to privacy.
>>30297964
>except if you go to school, movies, walk down the street, make your kid/spouse mad
Any statistic to back up that up? Because mass shootings are statistically very rare, and we are lucky so little happened considering the size of our population.
>>30297973
>retard snaps and decides to go on a killing spree
>he have a rifle can kill 30 people before he gets shot by police
>if he would have a knife the number would be 3
murders always gonna be, but the tool the murdere uses makes a huge difference
>>30297964
In short, no, you refuse to address the fact that this only addresses firearm deaths, not total deaths, and is therefore meaningless. Instead you will simply resort to insults in a sad and not effective attempt to anger people.
Oh well, you tried.
>>30297890
only gun kills matter.
>T. it's 2016
>>30297992
well enlightened one, what does death by falling rocks or accident have to do with people getting shot?
>>30297890
funny that the firearm homicides are cherry picked for the sake of making some half assed argument
why am I even responding? I trust my fellow /k/ommandos to keep faith in gun rights while the shitposting hordes try to convince us we are evil. stay strong men
>>30297890
Plz /pol/
>>30297999
Because death is death, anon.
Would you prefer me to stab you to death or shoot you to death?
>>30297990
>retard snaps and decides to go on a killing spree
>he have a bomb and can kill 168 people
>if he had a rubber dildo the number would be 0
>>30297990
>only 3
Tell it to the chinese coal miners :^)
>>30297990
>According to (this article)[http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2012/07/aurora_shooting_how_did_people_commit_mass_murder_before_automatic_weapons_.html]
>Guns aren’t even the most lethal mass murder weapon. According to data compiled by Grant Duwe of the Minnesota Department of Corrections, guns killed an average of 4.92 victims per mass murder in the United States during the 20th century, just edging out knives, blunt objects, and bare hands, which killed 4.52 people per incident. Fire killed 6.82 people per mass murder, while explosives far outpaced the other options at 20.82. Of the 25 deadliest mass murders in the 20th century, only 52 percent involved guns.
>So I guess we should ban matches?
>Also, let's not forget the (Tokyo subway sarin attack)[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_subway_sarin_attack] and the (Akihabara massacre)[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara_massacre], neither of which involved guns, and the latter of which involved the stabbing of 12 people.
>You're not going to get rid of murder, or even reduce the number of murders committed, through gun control. Murder is an act committed by humans, regardless of the tools they use. Murder has been around far longer than firearms, and so has mass murder.
>>30297990
So give the average citizen the right to carry so they can stop the riflemen. There are millions of examples of defensive gun use and it increases the chances of stopping a mass killing. All the mass killing are in "gun-free" zones, so people aren't legally allowed to carry guns there to protect themselves. Would a mass killer try to shoot up a place that isn't gun free? The Colorado movie theater killer specifically chose a movie theater where you can't bring in a gun.
>>30297984
>The people who are wrongfully killed by guns are an acceptable price to pay for freedom. No amount of death justifies taking away rights. 9/11 didn't justify the patriot act breaching American's 4th amendment right to privacy.
when a family member of your lays dead riddled with bullets because some retard had an autism fit we will see if you think the same
>>30298005
i tell you the last time, its about firearm related deaths
>>30298010
tell it to the schools, the movie where batman shooting was or to the gay club
>>30297999
Strawman is straw. The murder rates in the US are about middle of the world. Meanwhile we have 112 guns per 100 people. Serbia is next highest with like 70. And yet our murder and violent crime rates aren't the highest. Brazil is up there for murder, despite only having 8 guns per 100 people. So the problem clearly isn't guns.
At least try next time.
>>30298017
because an avarge retard with a 9mm going to stop someone with a rifle
real life is not cod
>>30297990
I'm sure the several blade related murder victims in China in relative recent history would readily agree with you
I know I'm just taking the bait, but I'm bored, so
>>30297949
>Romania #1
>vampire propaganda
>the post
>>30298022
>literally admitting that you have to be in an emotional, not logical, mindset to believe in gun control
BTFO
LITERALLY SO SHOOK THAT HE'S DESTROYING HIS OWN POSITION
HOW WILL ANTIS RECOVER?
>>30298022
>It could happen to youuuuuuu
Appeal to emotion.
>>30298022
>when a family member of your lays dead riddled with bullets because some retard had an autism fit we will see if you think the same
Yeah, I can defend my family with my right to keep and bear arms, the right to self-defense is an extension of my right to life, so the retard with autism might think twice if I carried a piece.
>>30298022
>when a family member of your lays dead riddled with bullets because some retard had an autism fit we will see if you think the same
but that won't happen because I have a gun :^) wish I could say the same for you, when Omar and Achmed break into your home, lock you in the closet, and culturally enrich your wife and daughter
>>30297964
>i dont own guns because im not an insecure manchild
At least the front half of that phrase is true.
>>30297890
notice how they omitted france
>>30298022
>lmao when your opinion based on fact becomes based on personal emotion instead then I will win
>>30297964
>i dont own guns because im not an insecure manchild, so why dont you suck that barrel already?
Oh so people in wheel chairs who own guns are insecure man children?
Holy fucking shit gas yourself
>>30298022
I'm not him, let me try to explain this to you from a different perspective. What is so special about firearm related deaths?
People will still kill each other or themselves without firearms. If firearms are less common (as tends to be the case in countries where they are heavily regulated), other methods will be used instead.
Murder is murder. Suicide is suicide. And banning guns doesn't lower either statistic.
>>30298043
#168, mate, try to read at least
>>30298040
Yeah, real life isn't a videogame where because handguns do less damage you can bunny hop around and red jelly filter regenerate easier
Why am I taking the bait
>>30298076
>somalia #1
>>30298040
>because an avarge retard with a 9mm going to stop someone with a rifle
Except it has happened many, many times. Again, it increases the chances of stopping a rifleman.
And if real life isn't cod, how come the person who shoots guns all the time and as willing to carry a pistol is no match for the average retard who has no training and only kills in "gun-free" zones because no one will fight back?
>hurr if the good guy has a gun. he will fumble and shoot a bystander, but the bad guy has magical aimbot and can't be stopped except by police.
>>30298040
he has a better chance then an unarmed person ;)
>30 people out of a million
I like those odds.
>>30298022
Let's say I humor you and we ban guns because of mass shootings.
Can we ban the other causes? Can we ban islam? Or just all Abraham religions to be fair?
Can we ban mental illness?
How about dismantling the mass surveillance state that has failed time and time again to prevent any terrorist attacks even if they are being monitored?
(The kicker is the same state that can't stop a guy that they are monitoring is the same state that is supposed to protect you)
>Much slippery slope
We are sprinting down the slippery slope of fun control that never ends with the original law
Let's just sprint down the slope in all directions
He hasn't responded in a while.
>Haha I'll come onto k and blow those dorks out.
>Oh shit they're really well informed.
People took the bait in this thread real hard, huh?
>>30298158
>merely pretending
>>30298156
>>30298158
yup. either reddit coming in to test the waters, or some /pol/b/r9k/ troll coming in to bait. we really are the easiest board to troll
>>30298158
Are you new? People on /k/ will always reply.
>>30297890
9gag rly
Canada has up to 21 million civilian owned guns which actually exceeds Switzerlands guns to people ratio according to an RCMP article I read a while back. Despite this, gun homicides are incredibly low in Canada despite being close to the US. It's well known that most gang handguns used in crime in Canada are smuggled guns from the US. Regardless of shitty border control, Canada is actually doing something really well.
>Bbbbb but it's cus Canada has a bunch of white people
That's not exactly true. Canada has something like a 76% white population which may be actually lower than the US' 80%.
>>30298158
Sometimes I like to think that a good /k/omrade makes these bait threads as a false alarm in order to train us for arguing with the real deal. At the end of the thread he says "good job men. Practice drill over." And we all talk about what we did good, what we did bad and how to improve our arguing skills.
I feel like a faggot typing this.
>>30298193
And that population is also fucking tiny. People don't live near each other or in as crowded cities. It's one of the many many variables that makes it hard to blame any one factor for different crime rates. Hint hint.
>>30298193
>indians and chinks
Doubt they're often involved in crime tbf
>>30298193
>which may be actually lower than the US' 80%
Anon, the percentage of non-Hispanic whites in the US population is somewhere south of 65%
>>30297890
Too fucking tired to argue. Kill yourself with a gun. Help your cause.
>inb4 late thread entry go fuck yourself
>>30298193
>US' 80%
US is 62%, 77% including "white latinos"
>>30298205
you are a faggot, but I hope you're right
>>30297941
Don't waste your time on the troll, this bait has been stale for years and they still keep at it.
Also once you control for dindus and gangs, we're typically safer than many of those Eurocuck countries. We have lower per capita rates of violent crime, less rape, etc.
Basically if you don't live in a large city full of dindus and gangs, your chances of being shot are statistically insignificant. So avoid Chicago, DC, LA, Chimptroit, etc
>>30298205
>Any of these threads
>Not bored shitposters
You can always tell because they either use /k/ terminology or terminology that is deliberately to trigger /k/ommandos.
>>30298257
>Also once you control for dindus and gangs, we're typically safer than many of those Eurocuck countries. We have lower per capita rates of violent crime, less rape, etc.
>If you ignore the crime we have less crime
Come on now
>>30298193
>Hurr but they have less white people!
>their "minorities" are Asians and pajeets
>No Hispanics
>No blacks
You are dumb my man
>>30298273
Yeah, the biggest tell is the phrase "assault weapons" or "clips".
>>30297941
But what's the solution, anon?
>>30298291
If you ignore the crime of black people we have less crime. That means that guns aren't the problem. We could have no guns and black people would still shank up a storm, keeping our murder rate exactly where it is.
>>30298310
Solution to what? A minimal and unlikely cause of death?
Nothing, really. If you're concerned about dying eat healthier. Literally the most important thing you can do to improve your life expectancy. The overwhelming odds are that you will die from something that you could have prevented by better eating and more exercise, so until you're crossfitting and eating salads don't you come saying I need to give up my rights for your health.
>>30298291
It's true though, the US is a massive country. If you live in a part that isn't full of dindus and gangs, your chances of being shot become statistically insignificant.
Those eurocuck countries don't have the same dindu problem that we do, so its disingenuous to think that you can just compare the US to Switzerland and go "aha! Look at my correlation of violence! Clearly guns and nothing else are the problem, because loosely drawn corollaries always imply causation!"
>>30298349
Just don't walk outside during when there's lightning. Because that lightning is significantly more likely to kill you than the skurry 'salt guns everyone is so suddenly concerned about.
>>30297976
Here's another one with FBI sources.
>>30298349
If the US actually cares about lengthening a citizen's lifespan, they would upgrade their medical services sector so that over 250k Americans don't die from medical mistakes every year. This is the third leading cause of death in the US. Doctors and nurses kill more people than all the dindus and pigs combined by magnitudes.
>Lol I killed that guy by prescribing fentanyl *collects 300k pay cheque*
>>30298291
>tumblr
>>30298415
>>30298379
>>30298349
I had an idea. What if we did the "countries of the world" song, but with a list of things that are more likely to kill you than an AR-15?
You think we could make the cadence match? How many verses do you think we could do?
>>30298257
>>30298291
Have a map. Also fuck living in New Orleans.
>>30298352
So if those European countries ignore their crime statistics regarding gangs and minorities they're also going to plummet aren't they.
You really don't think this through.
>>30298465
It's actually not that bad.
>>30298405
That one still isn't good because most agencies still include hispanic and white into the same racial category, artificially inflating the incidence of white crime.
When I was new to the job it used to crack me up whenever we got a BOLO for "Jose Hernandez-caucasian male" and it was some face tattooed el salvadorian mongoloid in MS13.
Now it just makes me irritated.
>>30298465
>If we hold ourselves to a third world standard it's not that bad
Yikes
>>30298483
Just have your foot always on the gas petal and a gun close by.
>>30298463
That song would literally go on for full days before you go to AR-15's as a cause of death if you went from most to least common ways to die
>people still think anti gun lefties are people
>>30297890
Now post the number of non-gun homicides per million in all those countries to compare.
>>30298507
We'd have to specifically go for silly ones and ones that match the cadence of the song.
>>30298470
Their countries are significantly more heterogenous than the United States is, they don't even compare.
>Countries with more guns have more gun violence!
say it ain't so!
>Countries with fewer guns have more *overall violence*
Well that shits on your argument, doesn't it?
>homocides by firearm
>>30298463
How good is your rhyming?
>>30298493
There is a section for White & Hispanic, Hispanic, and Non-Hispanic White.
>>30298497
According to OP, Austin, TX is the same as Australia. And my picture is only for cities with high rates of firearm homicides, there are plenty of nicer places in the US. The point of that pictures is that some places heavily skew our stats >New Orleans and Detroit
>>30298405
> If America was made entire of Asians it would be even safer than if it was made entirely of Whites
Although it would have a gambling and prostitution problem.
Not joining in on the discussion but from seeing Denmark on the list i can tell the numbers are bulshit, from those numbers we would've had 15 gunrelated homicides in 2012 alone and we actually only had 2, one scizophrenic guy on a rampage got shot by the police and a bunch of sandniggers shot another sandnigger over some drugs. Yes i remember them because we have so little gunviolence.
>>30298687
>gambling
>prostitution
>problems
>>30297890
Why dont you compare the US with any other South American country? They have gun control they should have lower deaths :^)
>>30298698
>not joining in the discussion
>joins the discussion
you so tsun tsun denamarkchan
>>30297890
Oh look it's another anti gunner coming here to shit up the place with their biased and false demographics and facebook memes.
>http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2012a/commsumm.nsf/b4a3962433b52fa787256e5f00670a71/5de089825c00843e872579b80079912d/$FILE/SenState0305AttachB.pdf
>http://libertyfirearmstraining.com/blog/2013/05/16/criminals-fear-armed-citizens-more-than-they-do-the-police/
>http://www.hoplofobia.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Armed-Resistance-to-Crime.pdf
http://www.theacru.org/harvard_study_gun_control_is_counterproductive/
>http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf
>http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1359178916300258?via%3Dihub
Here you go, now get the fuck out.
>>30298717
I don't think the Middle East is accurate in this map.
>>30297890
everyone of those countries have better welfare, better social security and better mental healthcare, thus less poverty and less psychos walking the streets.
fix your shitty society and killing sprees and you will have less mass murders.
>>30298748
Real Life means nothing next to the adherents of The Narrative. They would rather kill off our Republic than change their tune.
>At this point, bickering about the niceties of textual interpretation, whether the history of the amendment supports this view or that, and how legislators can solve this problem within the confines of the constitution is useless drivel that will lead to more of the same. We need a mass movement of those who are fed up with the long-dead Founders' view of the world ruling current day politics. A mass movement of those who will stand up and say that our founding document was wrong and needs to be changed. A mass movement of those who will thumb their nose at the NRA, an organization that is nothing more than the political wing of the country's gun manufacturers, and say enough is enough.
>The Second Amendment must be repealed, and it is the essence of American democracy to say so.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/why-its-time-to-repeal-the-second-amendment-right-bear-arms-20160613?page=2
>>30298752
wtf Greenland
>>30297890
>GUN DEATHS
You can't look AT FUCKING GUN HOMICIDE DEATHS YOU FUCKING IDIOT
You have to look at JUST HOMICIDE RATES.
Someone in another country, which has stricter gun laws, people will use other means to kill people. Death by firearm is not representative of crime problems you idiot
>>30298758
>fix your shitty society and you will have less mass murders
fix'd
>>30298752
I fucking wish less than 1 in 10 Afghans had guns.
>>30298015
Don't forget that the Rwandans got along just fine with machetes as well.
>>30298771
I think this is from the same set?
>>30298798
Yes, yes it is. This is now a Factual Anti-Gun Grabber Thread
>>30298774
I am well aware of that Phil. PR suffered the same fate under my government without proper representation
>>30297984
This guy gets it. A few mass murders are nothing to get our panties in a bundle over. Literally more people in the US die of cancer in a single hour than died in the Orlando shooting.
>>30298848
íou cant ban cancer, but you can ban guns so it cant be used to kill
>>30298758
This anon knows what's up.
Unfortunately, Americans will reject an European style health care system or anything remotely similar like it's a death sentence and scream "NO SOCIALISM HERE, COMMIE!", even if they lose their homes because they had to mortgage them to afford life saving treatment.
>>30297976
hey I've got a few as well
>>30297890
>EU has more homicides per year than america even though guns are restricted
>EU covers less area than america
wew
>>30297890
>Switzerland
>highest rate except for the US
Wow that's not even remotely right
>>30298022
>The people who are wrongfully killed by guns are an acceptable price to pay for freedom. No amount of death justifies taking away rights.
Yes you cockgobbling fuck stick.
Especially if the deaths that have relation to guns are still rare in comparison to many many many other things.
Reminder that almost 100,000,000 gun owners didn't kill anyone yesterday. Maybe a handful did.
>>30297990
So the first time some mudslime sets off a nuke the world will ban nuclear weapons?
>>30298915
because that worked so well with drugs
>good guys with guns never stop shootings
posting this before this trash is brought up
http://controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/12-times-mass-shootings-were-stopped-by-good-guys-with-guns/?utm_source=SR
>>30299091
This.
> why you gotta have nuclear weapons?
> some innocent muslim might accidentally set one off in a european city!!!
>>30297890
>more guns means more gun related deaths
Wow no fucking shit.
I'm fairly sure UK and Austraila have s pretty high knife homicide rate since the gun ban by comparsion, guess they have a knife problem now.
How about you post the overall homicide rate?
Just to mix it up.
There are 75 times more civilian guns than law enforcement and military guns combined.
