https://thetab.com/us/2016/06/14/i-was-able-to-buy-an-ar-15-in-five-minutes-19833
People keep posting this on jewbook. Apparently some guy walks into a shop and buys an AR-15 in 5 minutes.
How true is it?
>>30297574
I was able to buy milk and eggs this morning in about that long. Both are equally legal. What's the point?
>>30297574
>How true is it?
My 4473s have never taken more than 5 minutes, so pretty true.
>>30297574
Yeah if you have the money, have no felonies on record, recorded mental illnesses, or anything else notable that would flag you.
>>30297587
Are in Mt. Horeb or something?
>>30297574
>Apparently some guy walks into a shop and buys an AR-15 in 5 minutes.
As a eurocuck, I must admit I'm jelly
>>30297574
how does he know what a bazooka feels like or a cannon sounds like
>>30297624
His PTSD told him
>>30297624
Because he's a liberal and those things are scary. And it sounded /really/ scary.
>>30297587
took me 3 days to wait for a stripped lower. also sup wisconsinite neighbor
OP here. Was just wondering about what the gun shop does with the drivers license - do they scan it in a database and check to see if you're flagged for anything?
Sorry, I'm a eurocuck so haven't got any experience.
>>30297676
Last one I bought took minutes, this was a month ago, and also in Wisconsin.
>>30297574
>(((Kuntzman)))
>>30297714
i say wisconsin neighbor as techincally my residence is in illinois ;*( frequently travel to wisconsin though
>>30297704
thats literally it, yes.
>>30297747
Dont tell the cheese heads, im really from Illinois to. On self imposed exile from Illinois. Shits fucked yo.
>>30297574
Liberal fuckhead walks into gunstore, asks to see popular "weapons" for home defense then complains he didn't even ask for what he literally asks for, doesn't fill out any paperwork because he doesn't actually buy the gun because you can't without a valid ID, doesn't sit through the background check, and then decides it only takes 5 minutes to do this.
And here's the kicker!
>Backwater Virginia
>Most Fudd looking gunshop I've ever seen.
>20 y/o college fuckwad liberal MOST LIKELY DRIVING AROUND WITH AN EXPIRED LICENSE
It takes about that long for any other gun. What's so shocking and scary about that? He just proved he had no criminal record. I am jelly though took like 15 min for my 4473 to go through for my wasr.
>>30297704
They do a background check on you, if you have committed felonies, or other specific crimes like certain levels or types of domestic abuse you don't get to buy a gun.
This also depends on the state too, different states have different laws.
>>30297704
You need a VALID ID to drive, let alone purchase a firearm. Really all they're looking for is your age, and if the picture matches up, but it must be valid, not expired. They take your name and possibly the license number for the background check.
>>30297793
It's generally violent crimes of any time, misdemeanor or felony that will prohibit you.
I actually go to that range, it`s funny to see the owner make an ass of himself during the interview. Generally speaking the guy is a bit of an ass that gets easily annoyed and sits in the corner watching an 80`s action movie while someone else mans the register, then butts in whenever anyone asks a question.
At least the shop made about $60~ if I remember the price for rentals, ammo, and a target.
My air rifle had more recoil than an ar Damn that man is a pussy
>>30297574
>kuntzman
He certainly is a cunt, man.
>>30297793
is it all the same though? I mean, i keep getting told that you can walk in to most stores in the US and just buy shot off the shelf
isnt there some kind of backround check for each state, varyinf state by state?
Im another Eurocuck but I dont beleive its as easy as they say
>>30297855
Background check is federal, have to fill out the 4473 for any gun purchase. Ammo and other shit you don't have to have a background check for.
>>30297855
Every firearm purchase from an FFL requires an individual to fill out a 4473 form and pass a NICS background check. In addition some states like Pennsylvania require a second registry form to be filled out for handguns that the state police keep in a database.
>>30297574
Last one was seven minutes
Now five
Who has the fastest FFL? Wanna race?
>>30297574
So this faggot didn't even wait for his background check, which would take more than 5 minutes, and he seems to think he would have asked out of there in moments with that gun, utterly dazed and confused that salesmen did something so outrageous like the job she was hired to do.i want off this ride Mr skeletal
>>30297855
>you can walk in to most stores in the US and just buy shot off the shelf
If by shot you mean ammo, yes what you said is pretty much true. It's also true of airsoft and pellet/bb guns. Only "firearms" require a background check, their ammo & accessories do not.
>>30297855
Most stores don't carry firearms related products.
Step 1: Go to Vice channel.
Step 2: Check out his latest video.
Step 3: Say something like: "Why did you rape her she's only 9 for fuck sake"
DO THAT SHIT NOW!
>>30297714
>>30297747
Do turn signals mean something else in IL? I'm in SE WI and I never see IL drivers using them.
>>30298096
Im in Madison. No one uses them here.
Must be a liberal thing.
>>30297610
Lol, no.
>>30297676
Driftless represent.
>>30297574
depends on how fast the information form is filled out, double checked with ID and background check
>this is done even with black powder fireararms in some states even if they don't have to
>>30297574
If it had taken ten for the background check to clear, the it would be
>I BOUGHT A HIGH POWERED BABY SEEKING MILITARY ASSAULT RIFLE IN ONLY TEN (10) MINUTES!!
Or if it took 20 or 30 which is the most it really ever takes. It's just as "shocking".
It's not like a waiting period would have stopped that man from shooting up that nightclub. It wasn't a crime of hot blooded passion, it was calculated.
>>30297761
How would someone who is twenty have an expired drivers license?
>>30297574
This is fucking stupid.
Is this guy a criminal?
No?
Then why shouldn't he be able to buy an AR in 5 minutes?
Eh, depends on your shop.
I've only filled out a 4473 once, but the guy took like, ten minutes. felt like forever.
>>30298164
Where I live, drivers licenses expire at 20 because fuck you citizen.
>>30297760
>>30298096
Im just going to guess that if youre seeing illinois drivers a lot of them are native to suburubs/chicago area due to the proximity to the border. nobody uses turn signals.
they are a sign of weakness and when you see someone elses turn signal that means you need to speed ahead of that person before they get in your lane otherwise you lose.
also will be moving to wisconsin as soon as I can get a better job due to the gun laws and cheap property. Looking to move out to baraboo bumblefuck area. It will be pretty sweet to be able to apply for tax stamps. You can only get them if you are a firearms dealer in illinois.
>>30298164
In Virginia, if you get your license at 16 or 17 your license expires at 20 because fuck you that's why.
http://www.dmv.org/va-virginia/renew-license.php
>>30298161
There was a 3 day waiting period.
Liberals can fuck themselves. They don't give ONE FLYING FUCK about the dead people or preventing the next one. All they want is to push their bullshit agendas that will only make the next bloodbath worse.
>>30297902
Getting a DDI in July. I'll time Sportsmans in MS and post, provided I didn't somehow make it onto a vague watchlist.
>>30298249
Try Sauk over baraboo. At least your closer to civilization there.
>>30297574
If anything it shows that the laws we have are not being followed strictly.
> expired ID.
> knowingly committing a minor crime to prove your point.
> Ends justify the means.
If he had been turned down because of his ID he wouldn't have posted anything. The fact that they let him pass anyways with his ID expired shows that more laws really wouldn't help since they get ignored anyways.
Fuck, my mother bought a weapon, she has a history of mental defect, domestic charges AGAINST HER , and was still able to get a pistol without waiting.
>>30297855
Oh it's also a CRIME to fail a background check, but the Federal Faggots never arrest people for it.
It was what, 12 out of 800,000 failed NICS that even earned an arrest one year lol?
>>30298416
well thats is half the reason why i want to move to baraboo. This way I can shoot without issues on my own property
>>30297574
I have a GA CCW, that substitutes the background check. I can be in and out in less than 5 minutes
>>30298471
>you will never narc out your own mother and get her charged with felony possession by a prohibited person
I don't want to know this feel.
>>30297574
>>30297624
>feels like something that has literally no recoil
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UujtfN7hCdo
>>30298096
I'm from St. Louis and can also verify the Illinois drivers are shit, especially those from East St. Louis and the surrounding towns... because blacks. No blinkers? Check. Driving 5 under in the fast lane? Check. Although I must say the trashy white dudes in big trucks might be worse with their over aggressive bullshit.
>>30298589
Sauk is far enough out not to matter. I live like two miles from the sherrifs range. Open to the public on weekends.
>>30298689
Ive always wanted to know... do ranges like that have rules like 1 shot per second like the ranges around il do?
>>30298706
I havent had anything like that come up.
Basically one deputy sits out on a golf cart kinda keeping an eye on everything.
Two pistol ranges/Two rifle ranges. Kind of ad hoc on going out and changing targets, you basically check with the other people, everyone goes out.
Mind you I havent tried to mag dump, but I have brought my G40 on the rifle range at tried to zero at 100yds
>>30297587
Fellow Wisconsinite here up in Winnebago county. I backed out of a veterans outing at a range after the range had a no full metal jacket policy. The range is somewhere between Oshkosh and Fond du Lac. Twin City Rod and Gun club up between Winnebago and Outagamie counties. is a decent range.
>>30297574
Fukcing give me a break.
>you can kill people with it so it shouldn't be easily available
I can kill people with literally anything.
>b-but firearms are very effective at killing so they should be banned
I can make a very effective pipe shotgun with little experience/resources and no power tools. Give me more tools and some time and I can make a reliable semi auto as well.
>b-but ammo
Ammo is easy enough to make from scratch too, basic chemistry and common sense. Black powder can be made from things bought at a grocery store and will propell those chunks of lead just as well. Bet I could figure out how to make smokless with enough time as well but never tried it. Yet.
>w-well if you are so smart would you allow people to own nukes then?
There is a fundamental difference between nukes and small arms.
Small arms can and are mainly used for sport/practice/recreation/self-defense/etc.
Nukes have no use for self-defense on an individual level and can't be used for sport/recreation due to their extreme range and number of effects it has on the enviroment.
That said, if there was a rich guy who could afford to set off a nuke without harming anyone or the enviroment, I say let him do it. Hell I would pay him to watch.
>>30297942
I meant shit
like you cant just go in and buy shit off the shelf with no kind of check at all
>>30297587
Hoosier here, same wait time
I can be in and out in maybe 10-15 minutes max
All thanks to Mr. ATF, in collaboration with my local (and only) gun shop
>>30298269
Oh my God, you can get a gun in THREE (3!) days?!
>>30297587
today took me 30 minutes from walking in to walking out with an AK. nics check was about 2 minutes, salesman spent more time walking around looking for his paperwork than it did to actually complete the sale
>>30299432
The funny thing in my store is you can grab shot off the shelf yourself, but we have BB's and airsoft under glass.
>>30297574
(((Kuntzman)))
Huh
>gun control
>working
>>30297587
Waukesha?
>His follow up article
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/gun-lovers-opinion-assault-rifles-article-1.2674555
"Yes, I'm a wimp. I simpered because my experience with the AR-15 bruised me, body and spirit. But there's nothing unmanly about reminding my readers that mass murder is much easier to commit with a semi-automatic killing machine than it is with a hammer.
If that makes me a girl, well, maybe we should have a girl running the country."
>>30299757
There's no way this isn't satire. I refuse to believe a human being genuinely believes what's written there.
The only horror that the zastava ak gave me was when my dad gave me a task to shoot my Rottweiler called Tzar when both Tzar and me were 13. He got rabies from a wolf or something, half of his shoulder meat was bitten off and i had to kill him.
There are no legal guns where i come from, but i would never ever call guns 'fun'.
They arent fun, they are made to kill.
But to ban them, fuck no. If they are legal, buy as many as you can, and stock up ammo.
If you cant, bury them and dig them up in case of a war with muslims again.
There is nothing to be afraid of, if they start taking them from you. Bury as much as you can, code it into your brain only to dig them out in case of a civil war and leave a few decoys to be taken away from you.
>>30299757
>mass murder is much easier to commit with a semi-automatic killing machine than it is with a hammer.
Is that a fucking challenge? Where the hell is the nearest Kindergarten?
>>30299757
Why not do it with a grenade? Or better yet, 3 grenades!
>>30297574
When I went in and picked up my 1911 the computerized NICS check was stunningly quick. Figures, the one time a federal government computer based system functions correctly and they still find something to bitch about.
>>30299757
What's interesting is that I'm fairly sure this is a legit phobia of his. It makes about as much sense as people that are terrified of pickles but I have to admit, I'd love to see him sit down with a therapist about it.
>>30300701
2 gal bleach
2 gal ammonia
5 gallon bucket
ban bleach
ban ammonia
ban buckets
>>30297704
They make a copy of it, put it in the 4473 and put it in a back room for 20 years. It literally never gets touched unless the BATFE has to run a trace on it.
The NICS check uses the first name, last name and social security number (if provided). That's it.
>>30299710
>Waukesha?
No, see: >>30298116
>>30297761
The article claimed that he had a receipt showing he just renewed his license.
>>30297704
When you go to buy a gun the ffl (federally licensed dealer) will take your license or other govt issued id and run a nics background check (see wikipedia org/wiki/National_Instant_Criminal_Background_Check_System, yea i know wiki but to my knowledge this article is correct). If it says you are approved, you fill out a btafe (atf) transfer form, pay them and youre done.
From there It varies from state to state but some states, like here in the democratic peoples republic of maryland, if you buy certian ARs or a pistol you need to do additional forms to register it with the state police and you need to have an HQL which is a special license to buy a pistol.
>>30301205
More to the point, im sure i could print up a pretty convincing looking "receipt". If i was behind the counter i wouldnt want to see it either. Dont know about va but in md when you renew your license it keeps the same number. If va is the same when the clerk runs the nics check it would come up with his info because the number would be renewed.
Should the clerk trust this kids "receipt" or the federal background check system?
My guess is he pulled this shit so he could have something that he can write in the article that sounds like the system is out of control no matter what happened. If the clerk had checked the receipt he would have written in thw article that he could have forged a receipt, as i said above and foold the system
>>30301865
I only brought it up in regards to the unlicensed driving statement.
>>30299757
>If that makes me a girl, well, maybe we should have a girl running the country
Well that does it. I'm now a #HillShill
>>30298658
Came here to make sure someone posted this
>>30298706
My range is 1 shot every 3 seconds
>>30298164
In my state they are 4 year licenses. Or 8 if you pay double.
>>30298658
What the fuck. I didn't even care about the message, but got real fucking triggered as soon as I saw that cooking the rifle moved the dust cover back. Fuck that. That is fucking bullshit.
>>30300701
heh
>>30297574
All gun shops do an instant background check when you buy a gun with a computer system in the back of the store that's provided by the FBI. It doesn't take five minutes because it's unregulated, it takes five minutes because of the infrastructure in place.
Went today to get a 300 blk AR, NB took 30 mins total but most of that was random shit, the background check was done online and took 5 mins
>>30298269
>3 days
Not so fas--slow, Anon!
>>30298164
>>30298239
Because if you're like me, you're almost in your mid-twenties, and have an unexpired license that was issued when you were seventeen. :3
t. Floridian
>>30298185
Because he's going to commit MASS-MURDER, you psychotic GUN-NUT! ;^)
>>30297574
>How true is it?
Freedom and online NICS check. Not hard.
>>30297877
>>30297855
>just buy shot off the shelf
assuming you meant "shit": most stores that sell guns don't just leave them out on shelves. they're high value items, so they're often behind the counter and well secured.
if you actually did mean "shot": yeah, ammo can be bought off the shelf by anyone over 18.
>background checks
our federal background check takes ~5 minutes. why should it take longer, though? all they're basically doing is submitting your info to someone on the phone who then looks you up in a computer database that basically says "go" or "no-go" based on your criminal record. it's not like they have to go to the archives where they store the ark of the covenant to do a NICS check.
some states have waiting periods, but that's to deter pissed off husband's, suicides and other people who are still "in the moment" for committing violence, if you know what I mean.
other states have shit like foid cards, but in the end, all that ever happens to actually verify you is still just a NICS check, or similar check that looks basically at the same records.
>>30297855
why would it go state by state? We're one country you know. Government doesn't need to take all day, it's literally a yes/no question. Felon? No gun. Not felon? Get gun.
>>30299757
You.
Gotta.
Be.
Fucking.
Shitting.
Me.
>>30297574
>didn't complete paperwork or actually finish the transaction
>>30298606
glad you mentioned this. I just ordered a lower and was sweating because I hear nics has been slow recently.
turns out my states chl is nics compliant too. fucking awesome.
If you have a ccw and your state is linked with the fed database.
Easily possible.
Of course then, youve already had your backround check thru the state and fed level.
I was playing the shitshow that is EU4 and an interesting event came up. It involved a weak generation that would make your soldiers weaker if left unchecked. The alternative to leaving them be was to purge them.
>>30299757
What fucking crybaby.
To call him feminine is an insult to females.
Theyre gonna find this guy in a bathtub next to an empty bottle of pills a glass of wine and a clean razor.
How he manages to find food and commute to work is a mystery to me.
>>30305946
>I hear nics has been slow recently.
Usually happens after a mass shooting, panic buyers overload the system.
>>30297574
>Temporary PTSD.
So...he meant: he were scared, yeah?
>>30306029
yeah, I know. i don't want to mention that though.
the best way to stop a bank run is to make everyone believe that there's not a bank run going on...
>>30297574
If you take your time and actually read everything on the 4473 form, it may take a good bit longer. I usually buy online and have it shipped to this awesome kitchen table ffl dealer. An older fellow who has a passion for magnum caliber rifle cartridges in TC pistol barrels. He invites you in his home, he pulls out all these cool, interesting, oddball guns to fingerfuck while you chitchat. he will give me the form which i fill out, he makes a 45 second phone call to nics and im done. Best thing is that he only charges $10 to transfer and will let you try out your new toy on his backyard range. I always give him $20 because $10 is ridiculously cheap for all he does.
>>30298837
Waupaca here. Lots of cheese heads in here.
>>30306025
>How he manages to find food and commute to work is a mystery to me.
Perhaps he has a self driving automobile, that way he can spend the ride to work with his head between his legs and his fingers in his ears to avoid being triggered.
>>30297902
I had one finish in like two minutes.
I couldn't even pull out my pocketburger.
>>30303134
>>30298706
Ausfag here, a range near me is load and fire single rounds only so you cant even load up a magazine on a bolt action rifle.
No worries though because no other range in the area has such a stupid rule, I mag dump my 10 round mags at my pistol club in a couple of seconds every now and again for the lols.
Question for the muricans.
Is there any formal training course that you're required to do to own a firearm or is it a case of being up to you?
>>30307547
No. As long as not a felon you can buy.
Permit for concealed carry, a few States Constitutional carry (no permit).
Hunting also requires permit, but more about animal regulations than guns.
That's why we yell about our 2nd amendment. Its our right to purchase. Usage can be regulated, we dont care for that either.
I love it when anti gun articles don't mention NICS either in the abbreviated for nor fully as the "National INSTANT Criminal Background Check System".
Gotta make it so that back ground checks don't already exist and that they are mostly useless and not actually enforced (in the sense that they do not go after felons who are dumb enough attempt to buy guns legally)
>>30297574
>https://thetab.com/us/2016/06/14/i-was-able-to-buy-an-ar-15-in-five-minutes-19833
can you just pose the bs article next time so you stop giving him page views and an inflated ego?
>>30297574
Why should it take longer if youre not a felon or fugitive?
>>30307581
Aren't there some cuck states where that is the case (have to have some training to buy)?
That article is a bunch of bullshit, it takes 30 minutes at least every time I buy a new toy.
The shop I usually buy from are the most incompetent fucktards on earth so it may be that, but still I think 5 minutes is a stretch
>>30299757
>AR-15 bruised me, body and spirit
wut
how?
first time i fired a shotgun i didn't shoulder it well and it kicked me a bit but didn't bruise me at all...
does this faggot bruise if you shake his hand to tightly?
>>30297574
FL here, the call for the 5$ background check takes like 4 minutes + some of the paperwork so about 11 minutes. From check out counter to car
22 nato baby magnum
recoil
top kek
>>30307723
I was stationed in Cuckfornia for 4 years and didn't need to when I bought one. Far as I know they still don't.
I don't think so but I'm willing to admit I'm wrong. Some liberal places are weird. Big cuk cities maybe.
>The brass shell casings disorientated me
Holy fucking shit my sides can't even comprehend this kek
>>30307777
Nice quads
Maybe I'm confusing it with getting your ccw. I used to live in Colorado and they require that you take a beginner pistol course or have proof that you participated in an organized, sanctioned shooting competition to get your permit.
>>30305909
Sates themselves are pseudo-independent nations. If a power is not specifically reserved for the federal government, then it goes to the state.
At least in theory. In practice the feds get what they want from the states by holding their money hostage due to the fed near unlimited power to tax.
>>30297574
I really want to make a post of what it's really like firing an AR-15
>The first time I fired it I was surprised by the lack of recoil.
>It really wasn't that loud, not compared to the higher caliber bolt actions I've fired
>But mostly, I was still having fun.
>I couldn't keep track of where my brass went, goddamnit.
>The smell of burnt powder was wonderful.
>Gave me a temporary case of euphoria.
>>30307837
I'm not gonna lie, I've only had my ar15 for a little while and put maybe 400 rounds of shitty wolf steel case through it and it stunk to high heaven. Not sure if it was the ammo or what but it's literally hard to breathe after magdumping that shit
>>30307842
Hahah yeah wolf has a stank for sure. Use it with my SKS quite a bit. Just trying to counter his bullshit. I don't think I've put wolf through an AR though, only ever shot my buddy's, I'm in the process of building my first. Dunno what I'm gonna feed it yet.
how about instead of panic buying like a bunch of cucks, all you /k/ommandos post to your social media/discuss with classmates/banter with cucklord uni professors the numerous logical and philosophical arguments for the right to own weapons in a free state
mainstream media literally gets away with this soccermom paranoia hype bs every single time because of the silent/disorganized responses from gun owners who think "well, most people are smart enough to figure it out for themselves and won't believe that bullshit"
>>30307864
also, make it a goal to take 1 new person who's never shot guns before to the range before summer is over
>>30307777
well things have changed, since 2014 you need a firearm safety card to buy handguns AND longguns, which requires a written test, and after purchase, california requires a manual demonstration of arms (loading, unloading, clicking safety, etc) for all gun purchases, which is proven by a form the gunstore employee fills out and signs, swearing under perjury he witnessed you performing them
since 2014, purchased long arms are also registered to owner's name now, just like hand guns.
>>30307842
wolf smells like shit, but nothing related to firearms in my entire life has ever smelt as bad as this .357 aluminum cased ammo I had.
It honestly made me queasy after a few cylinders.
>>30307842
yep, whatever powder wolf uses stinks like sour sulpher, and on top of that you end up smelling it more because the steel cases dont expand to seal the chamber as well, and you get more smoke coming out of the action right next to your face
>>30307878
Shit. I thought it was bad back then.
I EAS'd in 2011.
>>30307871
Already tried this with most of my no-gunz friends, none were interested. They're generally ok, since despite being committed no-gunz they're not anti-gun.
>>30307864
Oh yeah, been doing that. Wrote up a long post educating people on what an AR-15 actually is, engage people on news stories asking what they think they know about gun laws and "assault rifles".
Its important to be polite, even if they don't in return. Don't just scream "shall not be infringed" at them, it doesn't work when they don't understand the subject at hand.
>>30297574
Any gun usually takes me 10 minutes, because CT has one extra form to fill out, the call center usually has a few minutes on hold and I like to discuss accessories with the clerk.
Buying a preban SP-1 was delayed for a week because Colt had to comb through its archives to find the manufacturing date. The Norinco AK I bought afterwards took 5 because they had most of my shit on file from last time.
>>30307978
>*took 5 minutes
What bothers me about shit like this is that it's basically arguing for inefficiency. Yeah, maybe it takes 5 minutes. Great, that means there's a streamlined instantaneous process that meets all federal requirements, including a NICS background check.
People can argue that the laws aren't strict enough and that more people should be disqualified, that's fine, it's stupid but there's an ideological basis in that argument. But I can't even comprehend the logic in saying that it's a bad system because the process is quick. People know what computers are capable of, right? They know that within those five minutes that paperwork they just filled out is being queried against a database that is populated via so many sources that not even most of us could name them all off the top of our head?
I guess it's just easy to form retarded opinions when you have no knowledge of the topic in which you're trying to be an authoritative source.
>>30307581
The thing that worries me for you lot is that a hysterical mother who decides she needs some home defence can buy a gun and go out into the world completely unprepared.
usually ends up in her hand bag....
>>30297819
had an FFL decline a transfer because my nearly up for renewal license didn't have the same address as my current address, said some shit about that being illegal
>>30310737
Yeah. Had that happen before. Just write down whatever matches your DL until you get it updated.
>>30308142
That's the thing about freedom. Freedom includes choices. Some people make the wrong choices.
If they do you punish the person, not the liberties of all.
>>30297574
I can buy a car faster if I'm willing to pay sticker price and more. What's the fucking point?
>>30311296
You can't kill someone with a car.
>>30298606
Main reason why I have mine, plus many places are charging $20-25 nowadays if you don't have a GWCL.
So if you buy more than a few guns every five years, you're already saving money.
>>30300701
>>30300759
Never chang /k/ even our darkest hours never change.
>>30307978
Oh yea, you Conn. cocksuckers have really gouged the fuck out of SP-1 prices. Thanks!
Fucking cocksuckers are even separating the uppers and lowers now because you niggers want tactical rifles.
>>30311307
Is that a fucking challenge? Where is nearest open mall or farmers market.
>>30311307
You can kill the seller and get your money back like a hooker in GTA
>>30297704
In Washington state, you have to complete this form with your personal information,SSN etc. then they take the form and your ID (drivers license) and have it checked by a FBI database. I have my ccw so the FBI has my finger prints and shit. So I would be beyond boned commuting any crimes with a firearm probably
>>30297574
I don't know what's worse.
Racist white guys, and turbo powertroopers
Or Liberal white guys who fucking forfeit their sense of self, or any sort of fortitude of character
>>30311637
I don't know whats worse.
A nigger
or a Velociraptor that can use a door.
>>30311863
Niggers know when they are running towards a reflection.
>>30297574
If his 4473 clears, it really isn't long
>>30298164
Some states put "Under 18" or "Under 21" on licenses so you can't chalk them to get into bars or clubs. They set the expiration to your 21st or 22nd bday so you have to replace them with an unflagged ID. You'll also see licenses where drivers under 21 have their license printed in portrait and over 21 have it in landscape, or vice versa.
>>30311886
Not true
>>30298116
Is that a G3?
>>30298069
Huh? This sounds like it's worth a greentext story
>>30311343
What? I can't hear you over the sound of putting Magpul all over a slab side, no forward assist, 3-prong rifle. It likes magdumping from a beta drum and the TA31 fits like a dream!
>>30297855
A lot of sporting goods stores keep the ammo out for customers to pick up, even the expensive stuff like 50bmg and 300rum.
>>30306089
I always read every letter on the damn thing to make sure they haven't shylocked something in there to trip us up.
>>30297574
It's people like her that are killing our country. They're the same folks who think the TSA does anything at all to protect them, and make excuses when they fail. They're butt flustered that someone with clean background was able to buy a firearm, and would be fine if that process took an extra 5 days, because that would make them feel safer. It's security theater at its worst.
>>30297855
Well, I live in California and here we are limited to one gun purchase every 30 days and You need two forms of proof of residense as well as submit your finger print for background checks. And wait ten days before you can pick up your gun because fuck you, we are the government and we hate you.
>>30300677
Read this in the voice of an old guy with a heavy Russian accent.
>>30298250
I love that about local state governments...the "Fuck you, we are in charge" reasons for laws.
>>30313851
>because fuck you, we are the government and we hate you.
No because fenstien and pelosi hate you.
>>30307547
In california you have take a firearms saftey test which they say is just a certificate, but seeing how you can't buy a gun without one...it's a permit.
The thing is, traditionally in America, your Father is supposed to be the one that teaches you firearm saftey, how to maintain your weapon and marksmenship, just like his father before taught him and so on and so forth. And if didn't have a father because he died in the war, there was always the boyscouts...however over time, not just Americans, but the western world in general as become weaker, scared and lazy.
We have lost touch with our culture and we have boys being raised by single mothers without positive male role models around them to teach them manly tgings which is important and just as important to have a single father look for a positive female role model for raising a girl.
I don't blame the gays but do blame social media for demonizing traditional role education for the two genders as I feel that you can be strong man or woman despite being gay and what roles individuals prefer in their personal lives, men and women still have unique and exclusive responsibilities to their gender that have no bearing on modern societal rules, but evolution and survival of the species.
>>30307864
This. Common sense and logic is not common and I'm not trying to sound edgy, but the masses tend to be dumb sheep that just nod their head and go with the flow of the group.
>>30307837
is that from the show where they took a bunch of full on "Nathan Lane" gay guys and put them in military training?
>>30314143
Herd mentality is a thing.
>>30301029
Lmao didn't see that. Going to UWP in autumn. Where to shoot?
>>30298658
Man I'm a little upset now. At least the second guy gets it.
>>30307742
>how did it bruise him?
Because he held it wrong. I've never shouldered a .223 gun, but when I held an AK the wrong way when I was still learning how to shoot and sent a couple hundred rounds downrange my shoulder was killing me the next day.
>>30297587
this, I've had one shop back in December have to phone all their checks in, everyone they did was taking 30-45 min, mine took about as long as it did for them to read my info off. Last gun purchase they had the e-check system and I was ready to go before I could finish counting out my money.
>>30297902
Bought a Mossberg Persuader, brand spankin new when I was 21. I'd bought from the same shop at least twice before. I hand em cash and they literally look at me and say, "We know you'll stay out of trouble."
bless em.
c:
>>30299757
>An AR-15 is a weapon of mass destruction, a tool that should only be in the hands of our soldiers and cops
Wow. Just wow.
There is one lesson to be learned from this article, however. Liberals constantly attack our masculinity with comments like "You must be compensating for something!". Let's try not to reciprocate with our own attacks. We're better than that.
>>30298164
in az i think you can get your dl for 40 years.
>>30307842
tula smells like ammonia.
>>30300701
Seriously. Did no one acknowledge that dude in China who stabbed like 20 kids a few days after Sandy Vag? Seemed like no one gave a shit about that.
>>30314572
Soreness happens every time you go shooting for extended periods. That's just fatigue.
Bruising is completely a different thing. That's a sudden physical trauma that literally severs and crushes blood vessels inside your body.
>>30298069
Is this a version of the "Did Glen Bekk rape and kill a 14yo girl in 1990?" thing?
>>30315006
I think it's because nobody (or only one or two people) died from the China stabbing. The media only cares about body counts and feels. Also I remember
>Just imagine how many people would have died if he had a gun!!!
being a common reaction. You can't win for losing.
>>30298492
>it's also a CRIME to fail a background check
It would have to be a pretty egregious act for a judge to take it seriously. Or you're black I guess.
>>30299036
>I can kill people with literally anything
>>30297819
>violent crimes of any time, misdemeanor or felony
No, it's felonies and domestic violence. You can have a non domestic assault charge that is a misdemeanor
>>30314111
Truth. Thankyou for mentioning it. Good luck getting this heard in our cucked out, faggotised surrendered world.
>>30299757
>He literally published an article documenting how much of a pussy he is
Fuck me why did I get a journalism degree
I must be the stupidest motherfucker on the planet
>>30316499
Shift the paradigm. Just get ready to fight against people to whom facts don't count.
>>30297574
TFW even my momma found this meme and is laughing about how much of a pussy he is, since she's fired my AR and likes it.
>>30311886
in kenya children can not pass the mirror self-recognition test until they are 6 years old. in the west, the average is 2 years old.
>“Wait,” I said. “Just adding a butt to the rifle lowers the buying age from 21 to 18?”
Its like he's acknowledging that gun laws are dumb
>>30297574
probably more like 15 mins, from them getting the scariest one picked out and getting their shit submitted.
I mean the nics is fast but i don't think its that fast especially given the massive influx of gun purchases
>>30318915
i just don't get that one and i never will, sure most crimes are with handguns but rifles offer more firepower
>>30297574
He didn't wait for a background check so it only took 5 minutes for the salesgirl to do her job and convince him to buy the babyslayer1500
>>30307901
>>30307871
>>30307864
I used to teach gun safety to some of the Occupy crowd. More were interested in that than in range trips, but the "intro to not NDing yourself when you find a gun" classes got some interested in range trips and made guns less scary for everyone. I began my class with the 4 rules, and then we practiced the 4 rules as I taught them to unload snap caps from various styles of firearms. Getting to handle guns in a friendly hippie circle was a very nice intro for that crowd.
>>30310768
This. I practically live on the road for work, so my functional address and my legal residence are rarely the same place.
this has to be the bazooka he was talking about
>kicks just as hard
>dat boing noise
>>30318941
>sure most crimes are with handguns
And what age are most of these criminals? Teenagers are the ones you need to look out for the most in shit neighborhoods. I personally think 18 year olds should be allowed to defend themselves, but that's the rationale behind the law.
>>30298658
Holy shit. The amount of cowardice pussy level is through the roof here.
Holy fuck we REALLY need to reinstate the draft.
>>30307742
When I was in the Czech Republic shooting guns for the first time I did have some sort of bruising on my shoulder but it didn't hurt one bit. I wore it with a sense of pride like: "Look at me, I'm a fucking man and I had a blast doing manly shit!".
Fucking pussy.
>>30311307
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Hebei_tractor_rampage
youre right, tractors are the way to go
>>30297884
this happens in every state?
>>30319504
That's a bingo.
>>30319116
t. Civilian
The very last person I would want to serve next to is a pussy bitch who doesn't want to be there.
They are always unfit, unreliable, and lack any values that a soldier should have.
Volunteer armies are always superior.
>>30298658
Mmm yes that video. Said it before and I'll say it again, you guys are the ones overreacting.
Just let him be scared. He'll get used to it.
>>30317919
you will have to provide some sauce
>>30320263
fuck I found it its real
http://www2.psych.ubc.ca/~henrich/pdfs/Journal%20of%20Cross-Cultural%20Psychology-2010-Broesch-%20Cultural%20Variations%20in%20Children%27s%20Mirror%20Self-Recognition.pdf
>>30297574
So ridicule is obviously not working as this guy is a cuck and thats his fetish.
Why not step back and attack the rhetoric instead just like with that feminist who claimed PTSD from mean comments and tried to get vets fired.
I mean aren't muh burgers ultra pro troops? So why not flatout say that its a despicable
marginalisation of the suffering of both servicemen and rape victims?
I know its a pandering to emotion but that is the only thing these people care about and short of an AR nothing else will get the message into their skull.
>>30297574
>>30297587
Eh, I doubt it. He'd have to walk in, wait for the employees to finish helping whomever they're helping, and ask for an AR-15. Then they'd have to be walked through filling out the 4473, wait for NICS to come back, swipe/chip and sign.
MAYBE on a good day, not that that's a problem.
>I'm 20 and my ID is expired
Yeah, this is a problem though. An expired ID
>I told him I changed my mind and wanted to think more before I bought an AR-15. He told me it wasn’t a problem and listed the store hours if I wanted to come back. I then said thank you and walked back to my car.
OH LOOK HE DIDN'T ACTUALLY BUY AN AR-15!
>But if a 20-year-old college student can walk into a gun shop and be out in minutes with an AR-15, and you believe nothing needs to be changed, you need help.
You are incorrect. However, if you think kicking tires and buying a gun are the same thing then you need help.
>>30297676
Lol, this cuck got delayed.
>>30297747
You know federal law prevents an FFL from any state from delivering a firearm to someone in a manner that would violate the law of their home state, right? Example: an NJ resident needs an NJ FOID to buy a firearm in PA.
>>30298492
You're fucking stupid
pol was right
>>30297587
made from real potatoes.
>>30320481
>aren't muh burgers ultra pro troops? So why not flatout say that its a despicable
>marginalisation of the suffering of both servicemen and rape victims?
We are, and it would be, but the guy is so laughably useless to the point beyond effeminate that nobody can even find offense with what he says
>>30307723
in Massachusetts you have to go through a 4 hour safety training course (for the low low price of $100) as a requirement to submit your application for a LTC.
So.. kind of, yeah, but 3 of those 4 hours are covering laws, how to store and transport it, etc.
>>30297574
>recoil bruised my shoulder
I shot an AR for the first time a month ago, and was shocked at how mild it was compared to my AK.
>>30297574
>it took a guy 5 minutes to do a totally legal thing
Oh, the fucking horror.
>>30297587
mmmmm potetlefse.
>>30297574
without the background check database being down It has never taken me more than 30 mins to walk out, but regardless of how long it takes does not change the fact that the purchaser has had a background check, the whole arguement about waiting periods is bullshit if someone is that determined they could easily buy a machete in the same amount of time and wouldnt have to pass a background check, and then go do whatever they wanted.
>>30299036
>Nukes have no use for self-defense on an individual level
>not CC'ing a nuke
>be walking home with boombala suitcase
>jamal mugs me
>turn key
>4 blocks are vaporized
>all is right in the world
>>30297574
>just like the ar-15 used in orlando
http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2016/06/17/gun-store-sells-30000-ar-15s-since-orlando-shooting.html
Omar nra salesman of the year 2016
>>30300759
Don't forget the chlorine
>>30314572
The thing is an AK has considerably more recoil than a .223. I'm not even joking or slightly exaggerating when I say it's on par with a .22. I don't care how you shoulder it if it's bruising you, you have a serious medical condition and probably need to be in a plastic bubble at all times.
>>30321436
I though a major selling point of the AR-15 platform was that it typically fires .223 or 5.56 and is designed to eliminate as much recoil as possible?
We should start a gofundme to bring the author to a range and try firing .50 bmg weapons for the lulz
>>30297819
Driving is a privelege. Owning guns is a right.
>>30324013
people have actually argued(some successfully) that driving is a right under the right of free travel between the states.
>>30299757
He took it even further and insinuate that Hillary deserves to hold office.
What a fucking traitor.
>>30311983
no it's a famas
Reminder that if Antis cite that the slippery slope is merely a fallacy, then feel free to remind them that the fallacy does not necessarily apply to political compromise, especially when one party stands to benefit from repeatedly withering away the other's resources.
>Neville Chamberlain and appeasement
