Barbarossa
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What went wrong?
>>30285375
Winter
>>30285375
Italian incompetence in Greece
Yugoslavian Partisans
>>30285375
german incompetence at everything
Railway gauges.
Finland didn't commit past their traditional territorial gains on the offensive.
The Germans only needed a bit more effort to help them break through the lines defending Moscow, had the Finns been there it could have changed the whole course of the Operation and possibly the war considering how important Moscow was with regards to supplies and logistics for Russia
>>30285375
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClR9tcpKZec
>>30285375
What went wrong was basically Nazis being Nazis. To just begin with:
1. Underestimate enemy because "inferior race".
2. Overestimate own capability because "superior race".
3. Treat basically all countries and ethnic minorities that could actually fight on your side like shit because of above mentioned reasons.
4. Use shitload of limited resources for doing things that increase the number of your enemies home & abroad and do nothing beneficial to war effort.
5. Be corrupt and have internal rivalry that causes service arms to have all kinds of weird stuff made for them instead of more concentrated procurement & production.
>>30285600
"I can frankly say it today- a grave misfortune, namely the weakness of Italy"
lel.
Straight from den Fuehrers mouth
This guy... the Italians diverting Manstein's forces away from Stalingrad, Goering buying into the whole "resupply entire 6th army by air" meme
>>30285375
vague plan from inception. too few resources with too many goals. leadership continuously changing priorities...etc,etc.
>>30285711
Barbarossa, not Braunschweig.
>>30285375
Hitler was a bad General.
>>30285562
>Finns
>Advancing to Moscow
I know the Finnish Army put up a decent fight in WW2, but come on.
>>30285522
Broad Gauge; Inconveniencing the everloving fuck out of logistics since the 1860s
>>30285800
They would have made a hell of a difference at Leningrad.
Army Group North can then focus on the Cow
>>30285832
Heard a good argument that the Germans halted their original advance on Moscow (and took care of Kiev) purely because they were logistically incapable of supplying it due to the railways.
There's a book but I can't recall its name.
The panzer divisions were able to cut bloody swaths through Soviet forces recently pithed of their officer corp, but their non-mechanized forces (the bulk of their army) were walking to Moscow with their logistics heavily dependent on horse-drawn carts. Combined with shitty roads/weather and the different railroad gauge, the German Army simply did not have the logistical capacity to keep the campaign going. Even if the Germans took Moscow, the Soviets could keep back-petaling until Zhukov unfucked Stalin's mess.
Oh, and British were totally not taken care of and was just a matter of time before they recovered and took the offensive on other fronts.
Hitler was not just bad at military strategy, he was a fucking disaster. It was only the exceptional quality of the German officer corp that kept the 3rd Reich from collapsing sooner. The allies considered trying to assassinate him, but decided that would help the German war effort.
>>30285375
The Soviets were far better at adapting than the Germans expected. Soviet production numbers outpaced anything Germany could have dreamed of - the Soviets produced as many aircraft in 2-3 months as the Germans produced in a whole year.
Initial planning for Barbarossa also assumed the Soviets would not be able to replenish their losses (they were), and they would be slow to repair infrastructure. Original plans assumed that they'd be able to knock out bridges and then overrun the position in a few weeks before they were repaired - instead, they found the Soviets could get destroyed bridges back up and running in a day or two.
And generally, the whole operation entirely relied on the incompetence of the Soviets for its success. The VVS, for example, started the war in the middle of a rearmament, and most pilots flying "modern" types had so little training that they hadn't even fired their guns. Bombers were generally sent out with no escort, and there was little to no coordination among aircraft thanks to a lack of radios. By winter 1941, however, they started making basic changes that were already having devastating effects - escorting their bombers, training their crews, and installing radios on every plane. That alone was enough to make a major impact, and it only got worse as the war went on. Their air blockade efforts at Demyansk failed, but less than a year later, they executed a blockade over Stalingrad that was devastatingly effective.
Essentially - the Germans had no idea what they were getting themselves into.
>>30285980
>Even if the Germans took Moscow, the Soviets could keep back-petaling until Zhukov unfucked Stalin's mess
I don't believe this.
I think even Russia has a limit and Germany had the faintest chance of making them reach it.
italy
incompetent allies
not enough mechanized transports
Probably should not have invaded the USSR and instead dug in.
But the jew controlled allies would have invaded Germany eventually I suppose
>>30286023
nah, look at the General Offensive of late 1941. While it was horrendously executed, it showed that despite all their losses, the Soviets were able to launch a coordinated offensive across nearly the entire front.
>>30285375
Three-prong bullshit
>>30286069
Bruh, that was barely a coordinated assault. It was just throwing waves of new Siberian divisions at the strung out, exhausted German forces.
