Negligent discharge
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I fucked up guys, i just had my first ND and i dont even know what to do now.
I was as usual practicing my focus on the front sight with my CZ75 i usually do that with a full magazine loaded in the gun because my hands are really weak and i want to get used to the heavy gun.
What I did was retarded and stupid.
I pointed the gun outside my window at the neighbors house and i pulled the trigger since i also train with my trigger pull.
Ofcourse it turned out to be loaded so yeah.
Im still living with my parents so i gave my dad all my guns and ammo except my CCW.
So thats my story im still too stocked to greentext sorry.
Also ND thread i guess.
Share your stories of how you fucked up
Pic unrelated
>>30284668
Too bad it wasn't pointed at your head. There is never an excuse for an ND and anyone that has one should reconsider ever owning a gun.
Owned guns for 26 years and never fucked up that bad.
Why are you pointing a gun at another persons home even empty every child knows to not point weapons at things you are not wanting to destroy.
>>30284688
I was 100% sure that the chamber was empty.
I even clearly remember racking the slide and seeing a round come out.
I think i forgot that there was a magazine in and another round was in the chamber.
Also ive been looking at my neighbors house for a while with my binoculars and it doesn't appear to even hit the house.
Again i admit what i did was retarded.
I think it was a good thing actually.
No one got hurt and i learned a lesson
>>30284668
>Usually practice with full magazine loaded in the gun because my hands are really weak
Lift some fucking weights you NEET.
You are the reason manufacturers have to put a lever in the gun for disassembly that does literally nothing other than make sure the firearm the clear.
>>30284668
Let your dad keep your guns and give him the CCW too
>>30284668
kill yourself you incompetent retard, you can't even do something as simple as a chamber check.
>>30284760
Are you also 100% sure you're not a faggot?
>>30284861
>>30284859
>>30284768
Fuck you ok?
I came thinking that this would make me feel better.
It was a mistake A FUCKING ACCIDENT.
I learned my lesson and it wont happen again.
You fucking pigs think you're better than me.
Well guess what, NDs happen to everyone and when it happens to you i hope it goes through your mother's brain into your wife's heart
>>30284760
>I was 100% sure that the chamber was empty
>I even clearly remember racking the slide and seeing a round come out
>I practice with a fully loaded magazine loaded in the gun
How does it feel to be 100% retarded?
That's a rhetorical question, don't waste your meager cognitive abilities trying to formulate a response.
>>30284896
>A FUCKING ACCIDENT
An incredibly preventable accident that shouldn't have even come to fruition with basic common sense
>NDs happen to everyone
Typically while out in the field, or when drawing to fire at a threat, not while standing in your bedroom "practicing" holding a gun you supertard.
Your complete lack of discretion gives firearm owners everywhere a bad name.
Everyone makes mistakes. But you shouldn't point guns at things and pull the trigger unless you want to shoot it. Especially your neighbors house. NDs don't happen if you are responsible and thinking clearly.
>>30284668
You know, usually I'm sympathetic to ND stories (even though ND's are preventable and you should feel like an idiot for having one no matter what), but you actually are fucking retarded.
>Load gun
>Turned out it was loaded!
No, that's not "turning out," to be loaded, that's you fucking loading it.
Don't fucking load it.
You fucking idiot.
>>30284896
>happens to everyone
>laughinggirls.jpg
Been shooting for almost 20 yrs now, never ND once, not even as a kid. You're retarded, and now you're getting butthurt we're calling you a retard and not petting your head and telling you it's okay and theres no consequences.
I mean fucks sake dude, you racked the slide on a loaded gun and didn't think that it would go off? Do you even know how guns work?
Here's a tip asshat, stop waving your gun around in your house and take it to a range. You want to practice with a loaded gun? Then go fucking shoot it. I know you feel cool with a locked and loaded gun playing secret agent man in your parents house, but it's time to grow the fuck up.
Dont be a mental pygmie, go put holes in paper and git gud.
>>30284896
Not if you know how a magazine works. Nigga why would you clear the chamber before dropping the mag? That is exactly what the DEA agent who shot himself with a Glock in front of a classroom full of kids did.
>>30284668
Wow you are fucking stupid. Thanks for giving shillary and friends more power.
On that note, you are 21+ and still living with your parents? Grow up.
I'm Australian and I never ND
also op u r retard
>>30284896
Why would you come here and admit your stupidity if you didn't want to be called an idiot. Also that's some autistic tier shit to do. If you want to practice with your ccw then go to a range like the rest of the sane population.
>>30284896
>WAAAHH WHY ISNT /K/ MAKING ME FEEL BETTER
>IT HAPPENS TO EBERYONE GUIS!
>FUCK YOU , OKAY? I HOPE UR MOM DYES YOUR NOT BETTER THAN ME!
You have to be 18 to post here. Also not being a giant pussy and a retard to boot helps.
>>30284896
>Would make me feel better
That's not what happens. You did something fucking stupid and you deserve to feel awful. Not only did you ND, but you did it in an incredibly retarded way that shows you fail to grasp even the most basic concepts of gun safety.
So yes, you should feel like a piece of shit and yes, we should make fun of you.
Go get some nerf guns and "practice" with those every day for a year. If you manage not to accidentally nerfdart anything in an entire year, then maybe consider guns again. If you do nerfdart something, never touch anything resembling a firearm again.
>>30284999
Trips of truth, and I forgot to add, spend less of your money on guns and move out of your parents house.
I'm pretty sure OP is full of shit, but what do I know. Tell your neighbors you shot at their house on ACCIDENT, and see what happens. Post pics.
>>30284896
No fuck you. It wasnt an accident it was negligence. Thats why its called a negligent discharge. everyone knows the first step for clearing a firearm is to remove the magazine, so how could you be 100% sure the chamber was empty without verifying that with a proper clearing procedure? Also why the fuck would you ever point a gun at your neighbors house.
>>30284896
my grandfather carried a pistol for 70 yrs and went shooting every weekend for 50. he died last week and guess what? never had a ND in his life. NDs do not happen to everyone. you could have killed someone. you are a retard sperg who has no discipline with your guns.
>>30285019
I wish i was full of shit
>>30284760
if you were 100% sure it was unloaded then you wouldnt have had a ND you idiot
>>30285044
No excuse for that . I see how close the apartments are in the reflection. Lock up your guns at the range or get rid of them
>>30285044
>could not find matching image
B o y you did it. If youre still at home, weak, and uncapable of anything this basic; are you an alcoholic by chance?
>>30285044
Reminder to not be a fucking idiot, and you might want to read pic related.
>>30285044
why didnt you throw a timestamp in there? Im too lazy to image search.
>>30285082
Im not an alcoholic i just dont see a reason to move out.
Also why is everyone in this thread looking at the negatives of this?
Personally im only seeing the full half of the glass.
No one died and im going to be more careful in the future
>>30285091
No thats wrong. On k rule number 1 is all guns are always loaded. Do you take the tires of your car when you park it? Do you take the head off of the hammer when your done usingbit?
>>30285114
Yes but you are very lucky nobody got hit if your in an apartment complex. You are lucky you were not arrested. You still might be in trouble unless you move fast fool. Good luck to you just break out the whole window and replace it before someone reports it.
>>30285121
Those are the universal rules, I know the /k/ommandments are very different.
>>30285044
Adding this to my desktop wallpaper lineup to commemorate how much of a faggot OP is.
>>30285044
gg no re
>This thread
>All of /k/ right now.
Can anhiro just disable posting on /k/ during the day? I'm losing braincells reading this shit.
>>30285149
You see ivan when all gun is always loaded no need to pretend like they are, you be of opperating like they are.
>>30284896
>WAAAAAHH I came here to feel better. no bully plz im a nice lamb I HOPE YOUR MUM DIES!!1!
ND into the roof of your mouth my man.
>>30285114
Because youre a fucking
R E T A R D
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A
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And you have a cavalier attitude about it, and want us to validate your retarded ass rationalizing for doing something incredibly dangerous and stupid.
>I just dont see a reason to move out
Alright, everybody out, OP confirmed autistic, nothing to see here
>>30284668
You were dry firing with a loaded magazine. You were setting yourself up for failure right from the beginning.
First of all, you need to move out of your parents' house.
second of all, if you continue to dry-fire train, you need an adequate set-up. I use a training mag loaded with lead shot and a laser. these products, combined, make a negligent discharge physically impossible and are easy to inspect before training.
Also jesus christ you are stupid.
>>30284760
i have the funniest mental image of you right now
> shoot neighbor's house
> spend 45 minutes ogling with binoculars.
> they see you
> better tell a cambodian steel drum gallery
>better tell 4chan how stupid i am
>>30284668
>i usually do that with a full magazine loaded in the gun because my hands are really weak and i want to get used to the heavy gun.
Dummy Ammo, you fucking faggot.
Use fucking dummy ammo. You are the most retarded motherfucker on /k/ this month.
You are dumber than the faggot who jammed his shotgun barrel up his ass.
>>30284760
If you were 100% sure, this wouldn't have happened. What happened is you THOUGHT the chamber was empty and you fucked up.
It also happened because you are a fucking retard. Don't know what to do? Simple, stop handling firearms if you are unable to safely use them.
>>30284668
This is why people hate us.
Fuck you.
>>30284896
>is retarded
>looking for sympathy
>on 4chan
>>30284896
>NDs happen to everyone
>>30285272
Refer to your first point dear anon, it's should answer the last 2.
>>30284668
>>30284760
>shoots at neighbours house
>doesn't even hit the fucking house
That house better be pretty damn far away, or do we need to get you a broader barn to shoot at the side of?
I am so fucking happy I don't have to worry about this shit. I had three marine parents. A rifle was stuck in my hands at the age of 9 and the four rules were beat into my head until they became as natural as breathing. At 14 I tripped in a rabbit hole while hunting and dropped my gun. My dad tore me a new asshole for about 3 hours straight. OP, if you were my kid, I'd put my fucking belt across your face. You're right, it was an honest mistake, but you deserve a grade A assbeating to make sure it doesn't happen again.
>>30284668
hey asshole, when you rack the slide on a CZ the next round feeds from the mag asswipe
>>30285318
To clarify, when I did drop my rifle, it didn't go off because I had the chamber empty while switching posts.
>>30285318
>Three marine parents
I'll bite, story?
"Negligent discharge" into your testes so you can't contribute any more retards to this earth
My only ND was at the range. I was getting familiar with the trigger reset on a USP9 and so i was holding the trigger all the way down after each shot (obviously).
Anyway, I went to readjust my stance and i guess my finger slipped off the trigger enough to reset it, and then my finger came back down again as i gripped the gun more tightly.
Basically i unintentionally fired from the hip down range. Felt fucking retarded. Looked around to see if anyone saw me. And then went the fuck home.
>>30284760
>I was 100% sure
>I even clearly remember racking the slide and seeing a round come out.
>I think i forgot that there was a magazine in and another round was in the chamber.
Go apologize to your neighbour you fucking moron.
If you really want the weight make dummy rounds i.e. a mag full where you removed the powder and ideally colored them.
>>30284683
This. I hope your neighbors press charges and you lose all your guns you fucking dumbass.
>>30284896
Zero excuse faggot
This kind of story makes me enjoy the current gun laws in my country
The average retard can never be trusted
>>30284668
You stupid fuck, you shouldn't own any firearms
>Point loaded gun at neighbor's house and pull trigger
Get a gun back from your dad and kill yourself with it please. I don't care if it adds to the gun death statistics because it would be worth it for you.
>>30285379
Mom, Dad, Deadbeat biological father
>>30285432
No where near as bad as OP and his bullshit. If you're gonna ND, the 'safest' way to do so is down range on a hot range.
Still though, be more careful you faggot.
>>30285476
I know the situation anon. Have a cute frag.
I think you can't even call this a Negligent Discharge, it's more of a Completely Retarded Gunshot
>>30285467
>Playing with my chainsaw at home.
>Filled it with fuel to strengthen hands
>100% sure fuel tank is empty
>Practice chainsawwing on neighbors' house
>Oops it wasn't empty, lucky I only practiced on house and not actual people
>Why won't /k/ make me feel better?
>I loaded the gun, racked a round into the chamber, pointed it at my neighbor, and pulled the trigger
That's not an ND.
That's a shooting.
And your score is 0, because you didn't kill anyone, not even yourself.
You're the worst mass shooter in history.
>>30284683
FPBP
>>30285552
>Racked a round in the chamber
You could be right but you're aren't .
Technically i didnt know that i put a round in so that means i didnt know it was loaded.
Still an ND/accidental
>>30284896
>you fucking pigs think you're better than me
Yeah I'm a responsible fucking gun owner who doesn't point his gun, let alone pull the trigger, at objects he doesn't want to shoot, especially considering he had a magazine in. Holy fuck anon, consider giving up on guns all together.
>>30284760
>I was 100% sure that the chamber was empty.
>I even clearly remember racking the slide and seeing a round come out.
>thinks you can be 100% sure of an empty chamber without a visual and tactile inspection of the chamber
JUST
>>30285552
Lost it
The worst thing I've ever seen was someone walk the bolt forward on a loaded MK43 because that's totally something that you do while he was standing in the command passageway of a submarine with the weapon pointed toward the control room.
One round went straight into control, where the captain was sitting and missed him by maybe ten inches.
>>30285571
>implying you're OP
>implying that he hasn't been jerking off to furry porn and posting what meanies those 4chin guys are on Reddit after his hissy fit
>implying
>>30285571
>Didn't rack the round into the chamber
Yeah rounds have been known to magically teleport into guns.
>Accidental
Did the trigger magically pull itself too?
>>30285505
Eh, he strung himself up from his basement rafters two decades ago. I've made my peace with it.
You NEVER point a gun at someones house. And it's like the most known gun rule ever you check the chamber for a round before you pick up a gun and start fucking with it. I hoped you learned your lesson. Go into hiding until this election is over fucktard.
>ND thread
Well I sort of ND'd a FN MINIMI at an live fire exercise today. I was trying to clear a jam and retarded me was pointing the weapon down into the ground. I lost grips of the gun and naturally i tried to grab it again (I know you should never do that).
The thing is that the only thing I managed to grab was the pistol grip, trigger guard and trigger with my right hand. A few rounds went off 5 inches away from my feet.
Im not a machinegunner anymore.
>>30285608
NO. You DO NOT get to stop the story there.
>>30285483
Yeah it was awhile ago. Now I make sure my finger is out of the trigger guard unless my sights are lined up on target. Even if the gun is pointed down range, there's no excuse for unintended discharges.
>>30285619
Its probably better that way. Some people won't rest until they destroy your life as much as they have their own.
It's ok op, can't be as bad as me
>Bought my first pistol, got drunk with friends, decided to decock my new carry 1911.
>Pointed it up and tried to decock it
>Finger slipped
>Shot the ceiling of my friends apartment.
>There were people living above him.
>Go upstairs
>All the kids are high so they don't want the police to come.
>No one hurt.
Second time
>Friend gives me AR to look at
>I dont realize he left it loaded,
>shoot it into my floor
Third time
>Try to show a friend how the trigger group on my new AR works,
>didn't realize I had a magazine in,
>shoot a round into the floor
Third time
>Had a new cz sp01
>Wondered if the slide of my other cz p01 would fit it
>Take slide of my old p01, forgot it was chambered, but you don't need to rack the slide to remove the assembly.
>Put p01 frame on sp01 slide
>Cool.jpg
>Pull trigger
>Shoot my wall
Fourth time
>Friend gave me pistol
>Rack the slide to make sure it was clear,
>Didn't realize he has a loaded magazine in
>Shot the wall
Fith time.
>Have a makarov
>Extractor isn't working
>No mag in, rack the slide several times to make sure it was clear
>Pull the trigger
>Shoots my floor
Sixth time
>At the range,
>Showing friend my new SIG.
>Didn't realize it was loaded while showing him how to use the pistol.
>Hip shot down range on accident.
Seventh time
>Sitting at my computer
>Dropped my custom 1911 (no grip saftey, because they are gay)
>Very light trigger pull
>Try to pick it up, hit the trigger while finding it
>Shoots my floor.
Eighth/ninth time
>Sitting with friends in living room
>Friend is showing off his new transferable Mac 10.
>Let's me try it out
>I disassemble it to see how it works
>Very cool
>Put it back together.
>Stuck magaine back in
>Didn't realize he had the mag loaded.
>Rack the charging handle
>Aim at wall,
>Shoot a 2 round burst through my wall
And that's all I have under my belt right now
4 years if gun ownership
>>30285690
you shouldn't be allowed to own firearms
>>30285690
Stop posting.
>>30285717
I own 15 guns now
>>30285724
Pics or GTFO
>>30285690
I refuse to believe anyone can be this retarded and not be dead or in prison.
>>30285690
Boku no baitsu.
If not, kill yourself and all of your friends before someone who matters gets hurt.
>Share your stories of how you fucked up
sorry i have a triple digit IQ
>>30285690
Dennis the menace cousin right here
>>30285690
>>30285748
Fuck you bro im op and my IQ is 115
>>30285763
>11.5
ftfy
>>30285763
But you don't have common sense when handling a firearm and ammunition and drugs are not to blame... hmmm
>>30285792
My parents are first cousins.
I dont think that's the reason but even if it was it's still not my fault
>>30285637
I think that's the whole story.
He NDed a machine gun into the control room of a submarine and almost killed the captain.
>>30285763
According to what, facebook tests?
You know you should always subtract 50 points from those right? They're designed to make idiots feel good by giving them all genius scores. Of course, you being the type of person who ND's, it only made you look average.
>>30285810
>Nearly kill your commanding officer
>The end of the story
I need to know how how many he had to clean the ship's latrine with spit and a q-tip.
>>30285809
How much money do yall have?
>>30285690
Get rid of your guns. Seriously. You're a fucking absolute no holds barred slathering fucking retard with waaay too many chromosomes. You think its funny, but its not. I have an uncle like you, and we all used to laugh at him, until he shot all the toes off his right foot with 00. Now he walks with a cane and lives in a trailer at 50 because he can't pay off his medical bills. He wont even allow a gun in his house anymore, and I don't blame him.
Sell your guns and start building computers or something. Holy shit.
>>30285828
I think he is right, guns are a responsibility. Keep playing with sharp odjects you eventually cut yourself really bad.
>>30284760
GO FUCK YOURSELF
People like you are the reason why we get shit on for owning firearms.
>>30285827
Parents are both lawyers so i guess we're doing pretty good
>>30285856
Fuckhead, leave the country.
>>30285828
Fucking THIS. There is absolutely no excuse for one ND, let alone nine in four fucking years. You have to be one of the dumbest motherfuckers alive, and I'm not even sure how you're still alive. Best get rid of all your guns before that changes. Dipshit
>>30285846
I'm not him, but you go fuck yourself.
NDs come with the territory, no different than car wrecks and cars or legs and tripping. Humans make mistakes, its in our nature.
If you think being a safety Nazi will somehow preserve national firearms rights your fucking wrong. Antiguns do not give a fuck about how safe you are, they still don't want you to have then.
>>30284760
Get the fuck out of here, I hope you don't get caught because you'd make us all look bad. It's retards like you that cause more and more laws and safety regulations you fucking mouth breather.
>>30285877
Remove the cocks from your eyes, NDs absolutely do NOT come with the territory and comparing them to tripping or a car wreck shows that you shouldn't own firearms either.
>>30285877
>NDs come with the territory
Keep telling yourself that cupcake, it doesn't make you any less incompetent that you shot a gun when you didnt want to.
Also, fun fact: I've been driving for less time than I've been shooting, and I've never been in a wreck or ND.
>>30285877
He is kinda right too, people fuck up. One may not of had a ND, but might have wrecked a car or beats someone's ass once, doesn't mean they consistently beats people up or crash cars. The question is can you learn from the mistake? Or are you doomed to be a fuckwit forever foever. Forever
>>30284896
I bet your the kid who pointed a gun all willy-nilly the first time you held one you aspie fucking waste of flesh. Go ahead and look at yourself in the mirror, your the poster child for school shooters.
>>30285114
>OP was retarded and drilled a live round through his window at his neighbors due to his retardation
>"why is everyone looking at the negatives"
>>30285877
>n
ND's are a product of belligerence and lack of respect for firearms. They do not come with normal firearms ownership they come from stupid immature children regardless of age even if they're 50. Smarten the fuck up and stop being part of the fucking problem.
>>30285915
OP is a massive retard who is trying to validate his mistake and turn /k/ into his personal hugbox. He can go fuck himself.
>>30285844
*if you're a retard
People may have /one/ ND in their life that is bad luck. Tops. One time when everything just happened to go wrong enough for a normal person to make that mistake.
If they have another one, they clearly didn't fucking learn and are retarded.
If they have a third, they need to be put down for the betterment of humanity.
>>30285928
I understand, I am for some reason wasting my time here talking to degenerates on the internet computer.
>>30285942
You and me both /k/omrade
>>30285898
>>30285913
>NDs do not come with the territory
Name one manmade device that hasn't had harmful effects because of human error.
I defy you. Even naturally created things like rocks and twigs have killed people.
If NDs didn't come with the territory, NDs would be a freak occurance. You can ND and not have it be your fault because of a factory error.
Get over it. They come with the territory of gun ownership.
I'm not saying 9 NDs in 4 years is on, that's like 9 car accidents in 4 years. I'm saying its common enough you should accept they come with the territory.
>>30285571
ok this is trolling
>>30285967
An ND due to mechanical error is different than some retard not checking if the chamber is clear and then pulling the fucking trigger.
Not knowing your firearm is loaded and then pulling the trigger does not come with the fucking territory of firearm ownership. If you think it does, then go sell your guns off.
>>30285877
>Come with the territory
If you mean the "retard zone" territory, then yes. They come with that territory. But gun ownership territory? Absolutely not. You don't have to be a paint chip eating mouthbreather to own a gun, and frankly if you are one you shouldn't. The only way you get an ND is by being both at once.
ND's are not like car crashes. Car crashes can be someone else's fault. If someone t-bones you out of fucking nowhere, that's not your fault and there's not a lot you could do to stop it. If you ND, it's because you picked up a gun, assumed it wasn't loaded (retarded) pointed it in an unsafe direction (also retarded) and pulled the trigger (SUPER ULTRA MEGA RETARDED)
Three fucking strikes mate.
That's not like getting into a car "accident," that's like reversing through an intersection at 70mph while snapchatting with gay men you met on Crieg's list. It's a clear demonstration that you are beyond any hope of salvation.
I can only assume that your defense of NDer's is because you yourself have committed this rite of dumbfuckary, and can only be redeemed by a deliberate and responsible discharge back through your own skull.
>>30285824
A submarine on deployment really doesn't have the time or manpower to waste on dumb punishments and cleaning a shitter isn't unusual, difficult or time consuming.
He just got yelled at a lot, called a retard by everyone and was right back up there with the same machine gun next maneuvering watch because people qualified MK43 are a finite resource.
What about all the police officers who just unload a full magazine on someones car or around innocent civilians or something? What is that about? Is that not negligence of a firearm? And these are the one with fully automatic assault rifles!?!?!
>>30285967
if you follow the 4 rules like a responsible owner with more than 2 neurons to rub together, NDs don't happen
>ND due to factory error
that's an accidental discharge
>>30285997
Regarding the typical ND...
He could have had deja vu or any number of brain mishaps that come with being a human that caused him to believe the gun was safe. He could have an unknown mental malady..
Accept it and quit being unreasonable.
>>30285998
Respect for firearms is taught and learned, like respect for traffic safety. They can be analogous, quit being a sperg while accusing others of being a retard.
>>30286045
What about friendly fire by soldiers?
I guess both police and soldier aren't responsible gun users....
>>30285998
Ok you over zealous asshole, let me try to bridge the gap for you. NDs are not acceptable. NDs do happen. ND should not require 'shooting yourself in the head'.
I won't use an analogy to make this argument because you can't be trusted to see the point without sperging out on the details.
Quite simply there is a range of behavior outside of proper that happens. The remedy is anything from introspection to loss of freedom/rights/life. The remedy is ideally selected based on severity and frequency of occurrence.
In this thread we have a spectrum of improper behavior resulting in ND. None of which should require 'putting a gun in your mouth and pulling the trigger'.
So kindly take a breath and stop acting like a raving lunatic with no sense of societal norms because it's actually people like you that make a community look bad.
>>30285967
>>30285997
Mechanical failure is not an ND. Unless you failed to properly maintain the firearm. ND = Negligent Discharge. There has to be negligence by definition.
>>30286045
pistol rounds are shitty manstoppers, so they're trained to magdump.
also, equating cops stopping a threat to OP playing super secret agent is real dumb
>>30286046
>>30286075
Point taken but definition of negligence is shaky.
People have been charged with possession of illegal FA because of slam fire... No doubt defects have been blamed on the user rather than the manufacturer.
My point still stands.
>>30286076
Oh fuck, I've seen police chase video with them shooting ARs out of their windshields while hauling ass through a town somewhere. Don't give only pistol rounds, REMEMBER DORNERs "truck" they pumped full of lead. Looked like Bonnie and Clyde shit.
>>30286103
No it doesn't.
>>30286059
Being confused while people are shooting at you in the jungle is different than deciding to load a gun, cock it, pull the trigger, and act shocked when it goes off.
>>30286060
>you should accept NDs as part of gun ownership
>NDs are not acceptable
Moving goalposts; The post.
>>30284668
You know I felt stupid because I got a cartridge stuck sideway in my Mosin. I thought about asking /k/, but you know what? I thought about it and figured every reply would "hit it out with a screwdriver" and when I asked wouldn't that make it go off, they'd probably "play stupid games, win stupid prizes"
So OP if you ever touch another firearm remember this, if you play stupid games you win stupid prizes.
>>30286103
Simple rule.
If you pulled the trigger, it's your goddamn fault. Own up, get made fun of, and hopefully learn your lesson.
If the gun went off without pulling the trigger, that's /probably/ not your fault, unless you did something incredibly stupid like modify the internals.
>>30286165
This is the acceptable thought process for asking for help from /k/.
>Did I Google it?
>Is it due to something really stupid I did?
>Am I prepared to get mercilessly made fun of?
>Is this an actual problem or am I just looking for asspats?
>>30286120
that would be negligent, but not a negligent discharge, those cops shot intentionally. this isn't hard to understand
>>30286103
>def of negligence is shaky
it really isn't though
shooting your gun because "huehue i thought it was unloaded" is negligent. your gun going off because of a defective trigger pack or something is an accident
>>30284683
Jeff Cooper, Rob Pincus, Travis Haley, Massad Ayoob... yeah, probably none of those guys should ever have guns.
Thinking you'll never ND is the reason people ND.
>>30284668
Jesus Christ you're retarded. it's like you don't even know what dummy rounds are and want to kill someone. Loading your gun in the house and then fingerfucking it? My god. I can sort of understand glock disassembly NDs, but this is a whole new level of retard.
>>30284760
Faggot is the wrong word for this. I know lots of real life faggots and none of them would do something this retarded.
>>30286122
Yes, it does.
Besides, are you going to protect all the people you would deny gun ownership? Would you chauffer all the people that have had car wrecks?
No, you won't, so you have no right to be thus opinionated.
javascript:quote('30286140');
You think average gun owners have never had to safety check at night?
What about all the other friendly fire? There's a YouTube video showing an american plane dropping a JDAM right on top of a forward base. Get your priorities right.
>>30286188
Our minds are very fallible. If you think NDs should disqualify gun ownership but the average mind can't guarantee that, then your philosophy is wrong.
>>30286188
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pv89_3rrW8Y
>>30284668
ahahahaha faggot have fun being nogunz
>>30286237
idk what you're proving here. that is a negligent discharge as the title states
>>30286213
No, it doesn't. And I have every right to be opinionated, and my opinion is that OP should pretend to be a responsible adult and stop owning guns. And no, I'm not, because if he was said responsible adult, he wouldn't be shooting holes in his neighbor's house and could indeed protect himself.
Good job ignoring everyone else explaining why you're wrong though, shows you have a strong argument.
>javascript:quote('30286140');
Christ bro, what are you even doing?
>>30286233
>handwave away the ability to remember and practice 4 simple rules with "nobodys perfect XD"
>>30286256
Just that it happens, they want our guns so the police and military have guns. Even though they are crazy and fuck up like everyone else. Why you mad copper?
>>30286149
No your right, my bad. Everyone who's had a ND should kill themselves. Read the post you replied to.. it's pretty consistent, there are no 'moving goalposts'. There is only frustration over someone acting like an antisocial dipshit.
I'm sorry you are incapable of understanding the difference between 'should' and 'is'. Good luck dealing with life.
Here's your (You)
>>30284760
What is the first of the 4 rules of gun safety?
>>30286233
Are we even in the stadium anymore with all this goalpost moving? OP needs to VOLUNTARILY get rid of his guns because he's retarded, nobody's advocating taking his rights away.
>>30286256
I'm not him, but I think he's trying to prove that if NDs happen even with police training....
Then NDs come with the territory. Like I said.
>>30286195
>Thinking you'll never ND is the reason people ND.
There's a difference between thinking you'll never ND because "pshh, I remember when my gun is loaded" and thinking you'll never ND because you have strict rules you follow that set up multiple failsafes to ensure that even if you fucked up in a dozen different ways you'd still have another dozen measures left standing to protect you.
>>30286277
there are words in this post, but the dialect is one i'm not familiar with
>>30284668
today is my first day browsing /k/ and i am not disappointed
>>30286213
Two wrongs don't make a right
>hurt friendly fire.
I wouldn't because those who have ND's are abusing their rights and should be charged accordingly.
Similar to yelling fire in a movie theater
>>30286287
Yeah except in the post above that
>>30285877
>NDs come with the territory
>implying
But stay mad that you're a retard who can't keep up with his own argument shithead, I'm sure that'll get you real far.
>>30286273
>remember 4 rules in an environment with near limitless variables
>one of these numbers is much bigger than the other
Ergo, Murphys Law beats your 4 rules.
>>30286311
Police training isn't that special. And most departments, they have to qualify once a year with their guns which basically means putting a couple holes in paper and not shooting the instructor. I'd wager that most recreational shooters have better training then the average cop
>>30284896
Hi clinto!
>>30286336
None of those variables should matter if you always assume the gun is loaded.
Is it a gun?
Do you intend to shoot something?
THEN WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR FINGER DOING NEAR THE TRIGGER DIPSHIT?
>>30286336
>limitess variables
>except the 4 rules which remain constant
cry more
>>30286323
Welcome newfriend. Thanks for browsing and identifying yourself. May I direct you to the /arg/ thread for a peek at our petting zoo. Or feel free to drop by the /kg/ thread for our hourly shows (I won't spoil the show for you).
Thanks for coming and enjoy the ND shitshow
once, and once only when I was 10 and I had a bb gun, I was dicking around with my buddy and it went off and hit his leg, luckily it was the shitty plastic bbs, I still feel stupid for letting it happen but it's not as bad as you OP, at least mine wasn't a real fucking gun you spoon
>>30284668
Come get your bullet out of my house, and quit staring at us!
>>30286322
Identify yourself citizen
>>30284668
I also dick around with my CZ75 with a loaded mag, and I have ADHD, and I still wouldn't be dumb enough to chamber a round. Round never gets chambered inside my house. I'll chamber one if it leaves the house.
>>30286385
/\ Amen
>>30286396
>I also dick around with my CZ75 with a loaded mag, and I have ADHD,
Looking forward to your "accidentally the neighbor's dog" thread.
Seriously though. Get a dummy magazine or some dummy bullets. Paranoia is a good first defense, but it can't be all you rely on. You need to set things up so that even if you just lost 50 IQ points out of nowhere you still wouldn't cause a problem.
>>30286351
Did you take into account the countless variables directly interfering with your ability to adhere to the 4 rules? Murphys law trumps almost all other laws.
>>30286362
You misunderstood. I mean nearly unlimited situations cause interference.. Murphys law wins.
>>30286461
trumps
I like what you did there
>>30286461
If you follow those four rules, you will not ND even if a portal to the bullet dimension rips open inside your gun to teleport a round into the chamber.
Even if everything goes wrong, you should not have an ND because you did not act like an idiot. Even if your dog loaded your gun while you weren't looking, even if aliens abducted you and wiped your memory, even if Agent 47 swapped your gun, you will not ND because you paid attention to the basic rules of firearm safety.
I can tell by your defense of NDing that you've probably blown a hole in something you didn't mean to. That was stupid and you should feel bad, but more importantly you should think about how it happened and how the four rules would have prevented it.
>>30286479
Trump is proof of Murphys law to some. I called Murphy's law "Moore's law" for a while lol that proves it to me
All I know about trump are shaky memories from Bloom County comics.. But my beliefs on politics comes from South Park. More and more I believe life resembles South Park more than anything else.
>>30286531
You totally ignore everything I said in >>30286048
All those reasons are very natural and widespread. Ever had a muscle spasm? Self control is a lie... We can't totally control ourselves. We have legit accidents through no fault of our own.
Get over yourself. I agree 9 NDs in 4 years is excessive for the average shooter, but if you're literally shooting hours each day for 4 years its totally within acceptable norms. In fact under that circumstance you would likely have a much more reliable safety record than the average shooter even with nine NDs...
>>30286461
this will be my last response to you
lets examine what murphy's law affecting the 4 rules individually would look like, for a competent and responsible gun owner trying to follow them.
>treat every gun as if it was loaded
you hallucinate your cat is actually a home invader and shoot it
>keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot
you suffer a muscle spasm that causes you to thread your finger into the trigger guard
>don't point a gun at something at something you do not wish to destroy.
an errant softball hits your gun hand so that it points at a priceless family heirloom
>be sure of your target and what's around it
in between checking your target area and firing, you look down to insert a magazine. in this time a bald eagle lands behind your target, unbeknownst to you
keep shifting blame away from the person who actually pulled the trigger because "murphy's law bro! i can't be held responsible for my actions because u just nvr kno!"
>>30286364
>/arg/ thread for a peek at our petting zoo
kek
>>30284668
>makes ND thread
>expected to not get made fun of
Jesus OP you must be a huge swollen pussy, I had an ND two months ago because admit tingly I was being retarded but it was no where near this level. Hell. I even made a thread about it and I didn't even get made fun of this hard, you know why that was? Cause I owned up to my mistake instead of trying to make /k/ my hug box.
>own your fuck up
>no really. You fucked up major
>don't touch a gun for a long time
why would you keep this thread alive in light of the recent events?
fuck /k/ sage
>>30285082
What's being an alcoholic have to do with ND?
>>30284668
Don't feel bad. Similar thing happened to me and it could happen to anyone.
>like to pretend I am silent ninja samurai
>try to break into neighbors house.
>clearly remember checking to make sure they aren't home
>start pounding off because my hand felt weak.
>hear noise
>family came home, startles me
>negligently discharge on shrieking family of four
>walk back home and mommy tucks me and makes me chicken tendies
>it's not easy being 23 1/4
Ignore everyone else, it could happen to anyone and like you said it comes with the territory
stop bumping this shit thread
ITT: people that shouldn't own guns
>>30286666
You've never walked in your sleep or done anything like that?
Sometimes we just don't know
>>30286633
>Muscle spasm
Is your finger on the trigger? It shouldn't be.
I have tourettes and ADHD and I've never ND'd, because I make sure at every point that there is no way the gun is loaded and that there is no way for me to accidentally bump the trigger.
I don't think people who ND should not be allowed to own guns, but they absolutely deserve to be ridiculed for what they've done. There is no excuse. They need to realize that they fucked up and understand what they need to do to not fuck up again, and if they do fuck up again they need to excuse themselves from owning weapons.
>>30286803
If you're the type of person who sleepwalks to the point where you can pick up your gun, load it, and fire it, you need to not own guns and should probably be institutionalized because you could just as easily hang yourself, get in your car, stab someone, whatever. Anyone who does that is just a straight up unsafe person.
Op here
Do you guys have any idea where the bullet might have went?
Ive been looking at my neighbors house with my binoculars for 30 minutes and i still can't find it.
The window is one of those double layered ones so i think the bullet might have completely shattered
>>30286841
Depends on the ammo. But most likely it's already in the police evidence locker until you receive your summons.
>>30286873
It was the cheapest FMJ i can find
>>30286831
And you're not even considering mind control, or even possession which has been taught for thousands of years?
>>30284683
>sleeping at night
>dreaming about cleaning my wasr
>load up mag, throw it in
>playing with it
>put finger on trigger after racking it
>almost pull it, only just then remembering I had something in the magazine
>wake up in a cold sweat about almost having a ND
Seriously man.
>>30286910
FMJ would bust through glass. If there's no hole in the wall you might have lucked out.
Am I the only person bothered by the fact that this wimp cant hold a pistol and needs to train with it because he is so weak. Anon lift some weights that's what their there for.
>>30286666
Checked
>>30286946
I dont have time to work out.
Im too busy
>>30286969
nigga I go to college full time and work 22 hr a week as a delivery driver and I still have time to work out , as well as look at porn, jerk off, see friends and shit.
>>30284760
>Also ive been looking at my neighbors house for a while with my binoculars and it doesn't appear to even hit the house.
this is bait, right? you probably killed your neighbor btw. they're currently bleeding out on the floor.
>>30286969
damn OP you are just chock full of excuses
>>30286946
Subtle.
>>30286991
I wish it was bait :(
>>30286969
op guy here who told you to work out. Judging from the photo I assume you shot from the building in the reflection of the window, it looks like that is an elevated position so the round would have gone through the window and probably into the floor some distance away ex10-20 feet, assuming it did not hit anything else such as walls, PEOPLE, or PETS. Here are the facts op you probably shouldn't own a firearm no disrespect but the fact that you found it logical to "strengthen" your arms by loading a gun and dryfiring it is seriously stupid. I mean you even took the safety off.
Every time I start practicing with a gun at home, I double check if it's loaded. And after its clear I go ahead and dry fire practice. And I never dry fire practice with a loaded mag because all it takes is one rack of the slide and the thing is fucking hot.
If your hands are weak, you weight train or get a dumb bell. Don't be lazy and dry fire a gun with a loaded mag. I am guessing your CZ75 is da/sa model so you don't have to rack the slide to reset the trigger (unless you want to practice SA). But with a loaded mag, you should've been even MORE vigilant and at the fucking LEAST, pop out the mag and checked the chamber
No excuse to assume shit., mistakes are made, but mistakes with firearms are not to be taken lightly.
This isn't a fucking toy.
>>30286984
I work 60 hours a week and go to college full time and I don't have time to do jack shit. I eat, sleep, school, work. I'm just fucking around at work right now until I get a call.
>>30287016
wow just I cant even begin. look you will definitely lose your CCW permit no doubt about it. Not only that but you may face legal charges for reckless endangerment felony discharge of a fire arm etc. I would highly recommend that you have your parents explain what has happened to the neighbor as I highly doubt you have the social skills to do so. (I mean you went on k expecting people to be sympathetic after you shot a loaded gun into a house. a house that could have been mine)
>>30286946
I'm more bothered by the fact that he knows there's a loaded mag in the pistol, which would already trigger most of /k/'s or any responsible gun owner's head to check the gun, let alone skip and assume there's no round in the chamber and begin pulling the trigger.
>>30287070
highly suspect as you had time to fuck around with a gun and shoot a house. look stop making excuses and own up your action. There are going to be consequences that you cannot avoid. Also get off of k right now if you are staying here expecting any sympathy you wont find any hell I'm the most sympathetic and empathetic person here op and I do have to say you have dun fucked up. Like I said let your parents take it from here.
>>30287089
Supposedly, his parents are cousins and they are both lawyers and are well off.
op you are like this boys parents http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/demings-no-question-2-year-old-boy-dead-after-disney-gator-attack/ar-AAh40fF?ocid=spartanntp
There was a sign that warned people not to go swimming there because of alligators, but what did they do they went swimming. You did a similar action you loaded a gun slide the rack back and pulled the trigger. All the warning signs in the world were there saying this is a bad idea and yet you went through with it.
>>30287130
Why the fuck would i lie about my parents being first cousins?
You don't understand how ashamed i am by it.
I only said it here because no one knows who i am
>>30287129
That wasn't me lol.
I don't even have a job :(
>>30287130
Wow I think I just fell for the bait. Good job op you got me to bite. I ate that one hook line and sinker.
>>30286048
>Accept it and quit being unreasonable.
He fucking shot his neighbor's house.
>>30287167
>I don't even have a job :(
Then hit the gym nigga and fix your noodle arms right after you replace that window so you have some deniability.
>>30287167
Are you a LGBT? No disrespect, just curious.
>>30287214
I've experienced stuff when i was a teenager but no im not.
Why would you ask?
>>30287174
I wasn't always talking about him and I've gotten in arguments with /k/ because they swear NDs don't come with the territory when they clearly do
>>30287016
Dude fuck
>>30287276
But they don't. You're an idiot trying to reassure himself for doing something stupid by saying, "everybody does it man, it's part of owning a gun,".
>>30287332
Saying someone has no right to own a firearm because of a ND is stupid as hell though. A lot of people have had NDs before. With that said this is a special case because he wound up pointed at someone's home.
>>30285091
I hate that "Treat x as if it is y"
No
X is X
Firearms are always loaded.
Are
Always
Loaded
>>30284668
Hell OP, you think that's bad? That's nothing compared to my day.
I went to McDonald's today and got a Filet-O-Fish combo with a bacon cheeseburger on the side. I was eating it in my vehicle in the parking lot and listening to an audiobook when I glanced up and saw the McDonald's worker I ordered outside having a cigarette.
She waved at me and I nodded and had to wait 7 minutes before she went back inside and I could eat in comfort again. I don't think that employees should be bothering or even trying to socialize with customers outside of the McDonald's restaurant or drive through, but that is another story.
I went to McDonald's for dinner tonight and got a McChicken combo with a bacon cheeseburger on the side. As I was driving to the second window the same girl was still working. She was acting somewhat obsequious and attempting small talk when she asked, 'why don't you come eat inside instead of in the parking lot where it is cold'.
That really bothered me for many reasons. First of all, I don't want my routine or actions to be tracked by a fast food employee. Secondly, she should not try to tell me how I should live my life. I do not want to eat inside because I find it less comfortable and would much rather be inside my vehicle listening to an audiobook and enjoying myself and my privacy.
Overall, I think it was very unprofessional to bring this up. I should have a clean slate with each drive through visit, not have to get the third degree because I committed some sort of faux pas. Which I don't think I did, because I often see people eating in fast food parking lots. How does she know I am not busy going to work or somewhere in a rush?
How do you feel about eating in your vehicle in the parking lot of a fast food restaurant versus eating inside the restaurant?
in other news it looks like the recent shooting may have had casualties caused by the cops http://sputniknews.com/us/20160615/1041403960/orlando-victims-law-enforcement.html
>>30287016
hahahahahahahaha
You are the biggest rube I've seen all week
>>30286314
This if I plan on dry firing I usually check the chamber 3 or so times. Never just one because I don't want to ND.
>>30285044
is that tape?
>>30287332
I try to use analogies to make comparisons to draw a more realistic picture of what an ND truly is..
Best as I can tell its less dangerous than a car wreck but more dangerous than tripping.
Its a potentially deadly accident, but that's just what it is. You don't ND on purpose, right? Its carelessness that's inevitable because of the volume of opportunities to allow it to happen.
Demonizing people for having an ND does no good unless the perp behaves positively from negative reinforcement.. Near as I can tell, negative reinforcement creates short term positive results but ends with negative results regardless.
OP shitting himself and being haunted by what could have been is enough punishment in my opinion. Probably a troll thread anyways.
>>30287016
I was half expecting your nude reflection in the glass
>>30287594
You've already explained this and other people have explained why you're wrong. You should read the replies to your posts, and stop repeating yourself.
>>30287603
Someone needs to shop feet into the reflection
>>30287396
Idk. To me that kind of statements makes people less likely to listen. Like
>Psssh, nah men. I totally checked it like 5 min ago, your rules are stupid! *bam* SHIIIEEEEEET
It's factually incorrect to say guns are always loaded. In fact most guns usually aren't, but treating them as though they're loaded is advice everyone can understand.
>>30287637
What percentage of NDs kill or wound people???
We just can't know. Seeing as it happens OFTEN because I promise odds are the people bashing NDers have done it themselves, I'd say I'm right in assessing it as statistically less dangerous than a car wreck but more dangerous than tripping over your feet.
>>30284896
>You fucking pigs think you're better than me.
>Well guess what, NDs happen to everyone and when it happens to you i hope it goes through your mother's brain into your wife's heart
until that day, we are
>>30287594
>Its carelessness that's inevitable because of the volume of opportunities to allow it to happen.
Carelessness is never inevitable.
An arguably easily preventable event is the opposite of inevitable.
You are wrong. Stop spouting "learning from mistakes" bullshit; this mistake, like yourself, should never have happened.
>>30287594
There's only a large volume of opportunities if you're a retard with your guns.
Post your face when shittards try to justify blowing holes in their walls.
>Y-Y-You'll have one too!
>>30287685
You are saying
>expecting people to be free from human error during unlimited circumstances is not unreasonable at all
And you can't see the error in your logic...
Surely you have experience with human error??
>>30287659
>"duuuurrrr, it's not as bad as everyone says!" "DUUUURRRR everyone bashing me has done it too!"
Statistically you have an extra chromosome.
>>30287724
Human error is inevitable.
But if you're not being a fucktard, that error won't result in accidentally shooting your dog.
How is this so hard for you to underst-
>NDing faggot
Oh, right.
>it's the weekly you shouldn't be mad at me for handling deadly weapons like a retarded toddler thread
>>30287721
>mfw
>>30287724
There are not unlimited circumstances to ND with a gun unless you are finger fucking that gun 24-7 with live ammo.
All chances of having a round negligently discharged due to human error are mitigated to statistical insignificance if you follow proper gun handling procedures.
You are still wrong.
>>30287730
I've never had an ND.
I just don't want ppl to think they are protecting gun rights by bashing NDers.
I've never seen this much hate in threads about friendly fire... Strange, huh? Because friendly fire has nothing to do with gun control.
This is my point.
>>30287756
No. I'm right. Because proper gun handling has nothing to do with mental malfunctions. And brain farts are very common.
OP are you still here or did the party v& come?
>>30287783
>>30284896
Even if the fun was empty, you should not do dry fire practice at houses, cars or people. When practicing, aim at something that you know, wont have people in it when you intentionally pull the trigger. that way if you are a retard and left a round in the chamber, you wont possibly kill your neighbor.
If you cant grasp that concept, please never touch another gun.
>>30287763
Strange, I never see threads about friendly fire, but we frequently have threads about mongs ND'ing into walls, ceilings, windows or themselves. Friendly fire usually has to do with people sanctioned by the government to use their firearms, and even when they cap each other it doesn't result in the civilian population looking bad or having their rights threatened.
Why are you defending people that can't safely handle a firearm, and try to soothe their asspain? Are you a millennial, or parent of a millennial?
>>30287793
Yes im here.
I just had a 45 minute talk with my dad explaining how it happend.
I didn't tell him i was practicing .
I told him that i was contemplating killing myself because i may not pass this semester at my university. (Which he completely paid for)
He said i should go to my aunt who is a physiatrist and that he'll give me my guns back.
i seriously love my dad omg
>>30287882
>I told him that i was contemplating killing myself because i may not pass this semester at my university
And I'm sure you'll tell your aunt this as well. Nice, now you'll get institutionalized and lose your right to bear arms, or your aunt will tell him not to give you back your guns. GG faggot.
>>30287882
>I didn't tell him i was practicing .
I told him that i was contemplating killing myself
This fucking guy
I swear to god
>>30287927
Im sure it'll be off the records between me and her.
And also im not actually suicidal at all so she cant do shit
>>30287882
Did you cry too?
>>30287882
Please tell me you're not really OP and just fucking with us.
>>30286195
autism.jpg
>not chamber checking every time you pick up a gun
top lel
>>30287721
>Mfw
>>30285690
